Imagine if the europeans that colonised America had the nerve to call themselves Sioux or Mohican just because they moved to those lands. They would say to the true native born, "We are the Sioux not you, you are something else and your history and tradition are false!". So the Slavs came to the land of the Macedonians (Greek 100%) and want the name for themselves. Sounds unfair to the natives.
I see that this video is dying however I couldn't stand this stupidity so I had to ask, what about those refugees from the civil war who escaped to Australia? Who brainwashed them? The kangaroos ? Who thought them "Slavo Macedonian"? God damn you are so full of shit, it is really irritating for me as an Aegean descendant to see someone playing with my own identity and telling me what am I. If this is true why then the Greek government doesn't give citizenship to their "abducted children"?
@LeonPetroff - communists running away so that they wont be tried for their crimes against the state are not called refugees they are called FUGITIVES.
The Greek children who were abducted were "re-educated" & their indoctrination today does not ask for citizenship as ethnic Greeks it asks for minority rights that are ludicrous with an ethnicity that NEVER EXISTED especially in a slavic form. Janissary robots of a communist agenda headed for their target as programmed.
@LeonPetroff - Australia recognizes no Macedonian ethnicity as NO COUNTRY recognizes it. Nor does Australia entertain political recognition for expediency. You have been asked to alter your name to fit your slavic origins and your Peonian geography for the very reason that you are SLAVS living in Paeonia. The Macedonian in slavomacedonian is a geographical qualifier to identify the slavs (bulgarian and serb ETHNICTY) living in the Macedonian province of Greece.
@LeonPetroff - spare us the analysis of the what this video is doing. The live footage taken at the GREEK children by a croatian at the time it was happening (1948) who titled the video THE GREEK CHILDREN before the modern day claims of fleeing communists has more than hit its mark....
@rempetisa Wait now who are you talking to, my father came to Yugoslavia with his mother, brothers and sisters, they were speaking Slavo Macedonian language all their life (although I must admit that they all have greek names) however they never proclaimed as Greeks nor spoke Greek. If mother Greece was in great sorrow for her infants why then my father can't enter Greece?
@LeonPetroff - Those who left Greece of their own volition were communist Greeks communist slavophones (the slavic in their language is NOT the slavic spoken in fyrom today) and communist Bulgarians fleeing after having lost the civil war in Greece. The children forcefully removed from Greece were GREEK children who were taken to be indoctrinated against the Greek government forces and their American allies. Your father wants to enter Greece as an ethnic Macedonian in other words a lie....
@rempetisa No... Our history is only 1400 years old...
"The live footage taken at the GREEK children by a CROATIAN at the time it was happening (1948) who titled the video THE GREEK CHILDREN..." You write that these on video was croatian children... On these video I saw that they writing on alfabet, they speak greece and i saw some posters on macedonian (fyr), it was write on chirilica.... In my country nobody speak on greece , nobody speak macedonian (fyr) and nobody write on alfabet or цир..
@klenskopje - the word is douchebags not doushbegs- it is a common word that is usually used to hide behind when your chickens have come home to roost.
Thanks to all greeks of teaching me everything i need to know about who am i and where i am coming from, you are very welcome on my decency to call you by your national name and sorry to hear about your views and i'm trying to understand how is possible for you to put yourself at the same level with the Helen people who use to live at the past times at the same territory you are living know and were the inventor of democracy. Somehow what i see it is very prejudice racial views of people
@MrPhilimon - and if you really want to learn who you are go and read a decent history book go to a museum and see real artifacts and not the 6 foot statue of a modern day megalomaniac with an agenda
@MrPhilimon FYROM people are not Macedonian - they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean.
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM: Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
The Macedonians were the victims not the Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs or Albanians. Think logically had the Macedonians had all of the power and army to do such things. Was it not Macedonia that was partitioned?
there is only one macedonian people and they are GREEK. the bulgars you like to classify by a purely greek identity were either komatadjis killing greeks to bring them into the bulgarian exharcy or communists killing Greeks to create a communist state.
Marcedonia is not partitioned, over 90% is with its rightful owners...GREEKS. what you classify as Macedonia was never macedonia in any known period of history. Thats just more snake oil from people whose only gift is their ability to play the victim and to spin invalidated delusional crap every time they open their mouths,
@TheMakGreat - you are not Macedonian. You came to our homelands from far away. , Macedonia is part of the documented historical structure of the Greeks - you cannot be Macedonian unless you are Greek.
Krste Misirkov - expressed the ethnicity of the Slavs living in "Macedonia" includin>> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
FYROM is Old Paionia and FYROM people are not Macedonians
The Macedonians have been the victims not the Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs or Albanians. Think logically had the Macedonians had all of the power and army to do all of these things. Was it not that Macedonia was partitioned?
I can agree on one part of you argument and that Macedonia is one yes it is one and it is consist of VARDAR, PIRIN, EGEJ = ONE MACEDONIA
I agree these children are Greeks because they don't look refuges at all. You should see the real refuges the Macedonians from the Eagean part of Macedonia. The difference is huge, this video is obviously made to hide the truth.
i love how you idiots make this up as you go. Even down to the name. Aegean Macedonia lol..of no known address. Macedonia is one. you are talking about the skopjian and greek communists who stole these 28,000 children and the appropriate word isnt refugee for them it is criminals
Thats the same if we said In 2001 in Macedonia we have civil war? haahah no it wasnt civil war it was fight between Macedonians and Albanians same in 1948 in greece between greeks and macedonians
what on earth are you babbling about? none of this is historically validated by anything but risto stefovian crackhead and the extent of your deluded dreams
well i dont know how we are going to grow out of the past when the future are fullfill with the memory of past iam who i feel like iam and thats my story nobody else should have the right to tell me who am i. Thank you for your sincere concern.
You cannot grow out of a past that has been faked. Your memories have no place in reality your facts distortions of known truth.. It isnt a concern for your idenitity im happy to say but preservation of my age old one
Well thank you for your response and how do you know who is wrong and who is right ,you same as me have source for your learning and how do we know that is the right one when your opinion is maybe influenced on the daily politics of the country and maybe there is something else behind it as we the average joe have no clue of whats going on and why
Everything will be very easy if not my own grandfather didnt tell me that i we are Macedonians and dont let anybody else tells you something else,now iam only stating what has he told me nothing else........
well sorry thinking of Franklin not Theodore ,my mistake all appologies to the past Presidents named in the process, and yes this was before 1945 and not after the people that were send to Sremska Mitrovica was before the end of the WW2 and returned from Gevgelia border
"Everything will be very easy if not my own grandfather didnt tell me that i we are Macedonians and dont let anybody else tells you something else"
You see THIS precicely is why 3 out of the 10 commandments have to do with deception and lying. Your grandfather LIED to you. dot lie to your kids and continue this farse. The truth will set them free. allow them to be proud of who THEY are. Teach them their own history Not someone elses and meke them live a lie. The Truth will set you free.
In order to help you investigate the Truth about FYROM i suggest you search YT for
"Without real history" and "About FYROM" to see what average Bulgarians say about FYROM and What FYROMS own president said. That way you dont have to listen to our biased opinion. If your grandfather had told you this, today you woudl not feel the same way. but he lied to you, this sent you as a small child down the road to living a myth.
When I was young i witnessed tow Yugoslav children making fun of my friend Alexandros because as they said "he had a Yugsolavian name". Those children ended up living their lives as a lie too.
misconception is that they were slavic. the video shows full well what they were. the records of the red cross made by parents demanding them to come home show full well what they were. this video is called deca greci and shows full well what they were. the four UN resolutions state clearly what they were. yes they were macedonians and epirotic and thessalian and thracian and all GREEK. no bulgarian.
a common misconception, amongst southern Slavs, is that the Greek nation will forget your treachery during the war and civil war and allow your peasant state to live in peace...
You will be fucked and pestered at every turn, it is in our DNA to keep you in your place, rural settlers and peasants in the Balkans
The only reason you won the Civil war is not you ,because the Communist Party of Greece with The Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia were winning but because of the fear from the Communism at that time Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill (U.S.A and Great Britain ) decided to help the other side what was there interest in this time and gave you necessary help with army and people and
with negotiation with Tito that got Istra that became Slovenian from Italy close the border for the rest of the Macedonians that were ready to go south instead they were send to Sremska Mitrovica and the one that will not obey were sent to Kale ,some even got shot . Now i dont know for the time of Aleksandar the Great but this is what i know for sure.......
We, the followers of HELLENISM, are the SCOURGE of south Slavs in the Balkans, God put us here to defeat and humiliate all efforts by arrogant, uneducated and beastly south Slavs dominate this land
please be so kind and and stop whatever propagande you learned. I know you are innocent.
I dont know whats in fyrom is but i know that in serbia a lot greeks live today. How do you think they came there? At that time there was a civil war. The communists lost despite the help of tito. This what you see in the video is the result of it. The sister of my grandmother is btw in bulgaria. There was no nongreek macedonian between those kid, cause all none greeks fought at the side of he communists.
My old football coach is from lerin he distinctly remembers what had happened to him and his family thus he moved to Australia. Are you going to tell me all those migrants where brainwashed aswell? Despite them living right in the heart of the greek civil war?
The heard of the civil war is not realy true, there are kids who were refuges during all the period of the civil war. Now the "brainwashed" kids and the KKE families & kinds they left MOSTLY at the end of the civil war and after. When the komunist party lost its support from tito they lost the war than they followed the "burned earth" tactic and for the KKE was to save those kids from what would came ergo to make them socialists. If you can read greek read the KKE literatur of that time
Lerin is florina right? How would you feel if i would call Bitola with it's greek name? Anyway im not hostile towards you or your country. If you are interested in that part of the civil war than please read also about the KKE and search for rizospastis. Dont know if its also in english or not. The polititians have to find a solution. I know the other side of the coin because my family was involved in that. It would help also to look at thrace
Hey dumbshit. Macedonians ARE Greeks . Like the Spartans the Athenians the Korinthians and all the Other Greeks. If these Kids considered themseves ANYTHING Other than Greek why woudl they be singing about the Freedom of Greece? And not just Macedonia. A little education goes a long way. get a library card.
yes you would like everyone to believe that but unfortunately for you the un resolutions the call for the return of the GREEK children that has been well documented works against you. You show only brainwashing nothing more
the UN resolutions the Red Cross the Multitude of newspapers the thousands of petitions and the video of the children speaking greek which is titled 'GREEK CHILDREN' begs to differ
Bobouna Not only are they Greek but the UN knows all of their names. And they trid getting them back from Tito. but he changed all their names and shipped them off to other countries after his plan failed.
On April 19th, 1950, US President Harry S. Truman made the following statement at the House of Representatives:
"My dear Mr. Speaker,
I fully share the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces, and I welcome the adoption of House Resolution 514 of March 22, 1950, calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland.
The rights of children and parents to share the protection, comradeship and beneficent influence of a family home are fundamental and have been implicitly recognized, in the case of the Greek children, in two unanimous resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly. It is morally inadmissible that political considerations or technical difficulties should be allowed to stand in the way of the reunion of these children with their parents.
The Executive Branch of the Government has been persistent in its endeavors to secure effective compliance with the United Nations resolutions in this case. These efforts will not be relaxed until the Greek children are back in their homes."
Alexander would only hear the Children. The Slavic was not know to ancient Greeks. The Slavs were nto even in the neighborhood. And besides we have no idea what their language sounded like. They didnt have a written language to a few hundred years ago. so there is No history of their language.
if they ask for the greek toponyms back then they should also take back their greek language and greek culture and take back their greek names. it is ridiculous to build a nation by taking whatever you feel like from all others
the recording of risto stefov calling for a return to Slavic names, names that have no connection to the historically Greek names of Macedonia are available in many forms. posting some obscure comment now that you've been found out to neutralize the obvious is as much a farce as the inconsistent statements made by your propagandists
Nikola Gruevski - we are not Slavs we are Macedonians
Risto Stefov - we are proto slavs
you cant even make up your mind which version of history to present
firstly shoudnt someone claiming that they want original named use the original names in their id? its florina not bitola...
in any case..
Life became even harsher after the 1912-1913 Balkan wars. The Greek occupation put an end to all that was Macedonian. Greek policies of forced assimilation erased the Macedonian language and abolished long-standing Macedonian traditions, even in small villages like Oshchima. Place names and buildings alike were given Greek names. (R. Stefov - Oschima 2003)
But as far as the Slavo Bulgarians in Skopia were concerned there was nothing before them. God created them first. So in their eyes anything Slavic is original.
In the late 6th century the city suffered successive attacks by Slavic tribes. In place of the deserted theater several houses were built between the 6th century and the 7th century AD, when Slavs settled across the northern regions of the Balkans.
they obscure the clear for those that do not know or do not research truth
Shame on Fyromians, the most evil and lier people on earth.
They are a shame and the cancer in this earth with their lies and propaganda
passariskwstas 11 hours ago
Your video "rips a new asshole" to the delusional south slav irredentists around the world. Post it everywhere!
Bravo
McDonian 1 year ago
Imagine if the europeans that colonised America had the nerve to call themselves Sioux or Mohican just because they moved to those lands. They would say to the true native born, "We are the Sioux not you, you are something else and your history and tradition are false!". So the Slavs came to the land of the Macedonians (Greek 100%) and want the name for themselves. Sounds unfair to the natives.
murbo13 1 year ago 2
I see that this video is dying however I couldn't stand this stupidity so I had to ask, what about those refugees from the civil war who escaped to Australia? Who brainwashed them? The kangaroos ? Who thought them "Slavo Macedonian"? God damn you are so full of shit, it is really irritating for me as an Aegean descendant to see someone playing with my own identity and telling me what am I. If this is true why then the Greek government doesn't give citizenship to their "abducted children"?
LeonPetroff 1 year ago
@LeonPetroff - communists running away so that they wont be tried for their crimes against the state are not called refugees they are called FUGITIVES.
The Greek children who were abducted were "re-educated" & their indoctrination today does not ask for citizenship as ethnic Greeks it asks for minority rights that are ludicrous with an ethnicity that NEVER EXISTED especially in a slavic form. Janissary robots of a communist agenda headed for their target as programmed.
rempetisa 1 year ago
@LeonPetroff - Australia recognizes no Macedonian ethnicity as NO COUNTRY recognizes it. Nor does Australia entertain political recognition for expediency. You have been asked to alter your name to fit your slavic origins and your Peonian geography for the very reason that you are SLAVS living in Paeonia. The Macedonian in slavomacedonian is a geographical qualifier to identify the slavs (bulgarian and serb ETHNICTY) living in the Macedonian province of Greece.
rempetisa 1 year ago
@LeonPetroff - spare us the analysis of the what this video is doing. The live footage taken at the GREEK children by a croatian at the time it was happening (1948) who titled the video THE GREEK CHILDREN before the modern day claims of fleeing communists has more than hit its mark....
rempetisa 1 year ago
@rempetisa Wait now who are you talking to, my father came to Yugoslavia with his mother, brothers and sisters, they were speaking Slavo Macedonian language all their life (although I must admit that they all have greek names) however they never proclaimed as Greeks nor spoke Greek. If mother Greece was in great sorrow for her infants why then my father can't enter Greece?
LeonPetroff 1 year ago
@LeonPetroff - Those who left Greece of their own volition were communist Greeks communist slavophones (the slavic in their language is NOT the slavic spoken in fyrom today) and communist Bulgarians fleeing after having lost the civil war in Greece. The children forcefully removed from Greece were GREEK children who were taken to be indoctrinated against the Greek government forces and their American allies. Your father wants to enter Greece as an ethnic Macedonian in other words a lie....
rempetisa 1 year ago
@rempetisa
CROATIAN people does not write on chirllica (ћирилица).... I am from Croatia and I newer wacth these video before...
Trpinjin 1 year ago
@Trpinjin - Where does it show written Croatian? I live in the USA and I have never seen "dances with wolves". You're point being???
rempetisa 1 year ago
@rempetisa No... Our history is only 1400 years old...
"The live footage taken at the GREEK children by a CROATIAN at the time it was happening (1948) who titled the video THE GREEK CHILDREN..." You write that these on video was croatian children... On these video I saw that they writing on alfabet, they speak greece and i saw some posters on macedonian (fyr), it was write on chirilica.... In my country nobody speak on greece , nobody speak macedonian (fyr) and nobody write on alfabet or цир..
Trpinjin 1 year ago
@Trpinjin - no i said that this video was of GREEK children. The footage was taken by a Croation man. You have gotten confused.
rempetisa 1 year ago
@rempetisa OK I understand now :)
Trpinjin 1 year ago
@Trpinjin - : )
rempetisa 1 year ago
Fuck off you Greek doushebegs
klenskopje 1 year ago
@klenskopje - the word is douchebags not doushbegs- it is a common word that is usually used to hide behind when your chickens have come home to roost.
rempetisa 1 year ago 2
Thanks to all greeks of teaching me everything i need to know about who am i and where i am coming from, you are very welcome on my decency to call you by your national name and sorry to hear about your views and i'm trying to understand how is possible for you to put yourself at the same level with the Helen people who use to live at the past times at the same territory you are living know and were the inventor of democracy. Somehow what i see it is very prejudice racial views of people
MrPhilimon 1 year ago
@MrPhilimon - have u ever tried to step outside of your brainwashing to see reality? trust me, truth is truly liberating...
rempetisa 1 year ago
@MrPhilimon - and if you really want to learn who you are go and read a decent history book go to a museum and see real artifacts and not the 6 foot statue of a modern day megalomaniac with an agenda
rempetisa 1 year ago
@MrPhilimon FYROM people are not Macedonian - they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean.
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM: Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
The Macedonians were the victims not the Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs or Albanians. Think logically had the Macedonians had all of the power and army to do such things. Was it not Macedonia that was partitioned?
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
@TheMakGreat
there is only one macedonian people and they are GREEK. the bulgars you like to classify by a purely greek identity were either komatadjis killing greeks to bring them into the bulgarian exharcy or communists killing Greeks to create a communist state.
AuthenticMacedonian 1 year ago
@TheMakGreat
Marcedonia is not partitioned, over 90% is with its rightful owners...GREEKS. what you classify as Macedonia was never macedonia in any known period of history. Thats just more snake oil from people whose only gift is their ability to play the victim and to spin invalidated delusional crap every time they open their mouths,
AuthenticMacedonian 1 year ago
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@TheMakGreat - you are not Macedonian. You came to our homelands from far away. , Macedonia is part of the documented historical structure of the Greeks - you cannot be Macedonian unless you are Greek.
Krste Misirkov - expressed the ethnicity of the Slavs living in "Macedonia" includin>> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
FYROM is Old Paionia and FYROM people are not Macedonians
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
The Macedonians have been the victims not the Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs or Albanians. Think logically had the Macedonians had all of the power and army to do all of these things. Was it not that Macedonia was partitioned?
I can agree on one part of you argument and that Macedonia is one yes it is one and it is consist of VARDAR, PIRIN, EGEJ = ONE MACEDONIA
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
I agree these children are Greeks because they don't look refuges at all. You should see the real refuges the Macedonians from the Eagean part of Macedonia. The difference is huge, this video is obviously made to hide the truth.
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
@TheMakGreat
i love how you idiots make this up as you go. Even down to the name. Aegean Macedonia lol..of no known address. Macedonia is one. you are talking about the skopjian and greek communists who stole these 28,000 children and the appropriate word isnt refugee for them it is criminals
AuthenticMacedonian 1 year ago
They don't look refuges to me at all.
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
As a result of the Balkan Wars, Greece increased the extent of its territory and population. In the following years...hmmm interesting :)))
1913??? Greek civil war????? haah thats funny ,thats cleansing of territory... no comment
metodi78 2 years ago
Thats the same if we said In 2001 in Macedonia we have civil war? haahah no it wasnt civil war it was fight between Macedonians and Albanians same in 1948 in greece between greeks and macedonians
metodi78 2 years ago
@metodi78
what on earth are you babbling about? none of this is historically validated by anything but risto stefovian crackhead and the extent of your deluded dreams
Gwrgo 2 years ago
5*****
psilkakos 2 years ago
Whose that fucking Risto for god sake??????
Are u on high drugs or something
metodi78 2 years ago
не сери дабилу
psilkakos 2 years ago
*дебилу
psilkakos 2 years ago
το βιντεάκι σου είναι εξαιρετικό!
McDonian 2 years ago
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pusi se po red da ti ----- majkata a i se pored
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
well i dont know how we are going to grow out of the past when the future are fullfill with the memory of past iam who i feel like iam and thats my story nobody else should have the right to tell me who am i. Thank you for your sincere concern.
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
You cannot grow out of a past that has been faked. Your memories have no place in reality your facts distortions of known truth.. It isnt a concern for your idenitity im happy to say but preservation of my age old one
rempetisa 2 years ago
Well thank you for your response and how do you know who is wrong and who is right ,you same as me have source for your learning and how do we know that is the right one when your opinion is maybe influenced on the daily politics of the country and maybe there is something else behind it as we the average joe have no clue of whats going on and why
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
Everything will be very easy if not my own grandfather didnt tell me that i we are Macedonians and dont let anybody else tells you something else,now iam only stating what has he told me nothing else........
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
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well sorry thinking of Franklin not Theodore ,my mistake all appologies to the past Presidents named in the process, and yes this was before 1945 and not after the people that were send to Sremska Mitrovica was before the end of the WW2 and returned from Gevgelia border
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
"Everything will be very easy if not my own grandfather didnt tell me that i we are Macedonians and dont let anybody else tells you something else"
You see THIS precicely is why 3 out of the 10 commandments have to do with deception and lying. Your grandfather LIED to you. dot lie to your kids and continue this farse. The truth will set them free. allow them to be proud of who THEY are. Teach them their own history Not someone elses and meke them live a lie. The Truth will set you free.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
In order to help you investigate the Truth about FYROM i suggest you search YT for
"Without real history" and "About FYROM" to see what average Bulgarians say about FYROM and What FYROMS own president said. That way you dont have to listen to our biased opinion. If your grandfather had told you this, today you woudl not feel the same way. but he lied to you, this sent you as a small child down the road to living a myth.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
When I was young i witnessed tow Yugoslav children making fun of my friend Alexandros because as they said "he had a Yugsolavian name". Those children ended up living their lives as a lie too.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
Bravo rempetisa poli kalo to video autoi einai oi alhtheia MACEDONIA IS GREEK:o)
HellenicFighter 2 years ago
a common misconception is that the children were purely greek not true they were both of greek decent and macedonians
mkddanchh 2 years ago
misconception is that they were slavic. the video shows full well what they were. the records of the red cross made by parents demanding them to come home show full well what they were. this video is called deca greci and shows full well what they were. the four UN resolutions state clearly what they were. yes they were macedonians and epirotic and thessalian and thracian and all GREEK. no bulgarian.
YouAreSlavoBulgars 2 years ago
a common misconception, amongst southern Slavs, is that the Greek nation will forget your treachery during the war and civil war and allow your peasant state to live in peace...
You will be fucked and pestered at every turn, it is in our DNA to keep you in your place, rural settlers and peasants in the Balkans
McDonian 2 years ago
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The only reason you won the Civil war is not you ,because the Communist Party of Greece with The Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia were winning but because of the fear from the Communism at that time Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill (U.S.A and Great Britain ) decided to help the other side what was there interest in this time and gave you necessary help with army and people and
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
First off Mr. Slavi, ... Theodore Roosevelt DIED four decades before the Gr Civil War!
His NEPHEW, Franklin Delano Roosevelt DIED in 1945
Winston Churchill was UNSEATED as PM in 1945!
So, Goran, you would look up TRUMAN DOCTRINE
McDonian 2 years ago
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with negotiation with Tito that got Istra that became Slovenian from Italy close the border for the rest of the Macedonians that were ready to go south instead they were send to Sremska Mitrovica and the one that will not obey were sent to Kale ,some even got shot . Now i dont know for the time of Aleksandar the Great but this is what i know for sure.......
MrPhilimon 2 years ago
We, the followers of HELLENISM, are the SCOURGE of south Slavs in the Balkans, God put us here to defeat and humiliate all efforts by arrogant, uneducated and beastly south Slavs dominate this land
1904 Macedonian Struggle
1912 1st Balkan War
1913 2nd Balkan War
1917-18 WWI
1940-45 WWII
1946-49 Greek Civil War
1949-1990 Cold War
1990-present "Name dispute"
what will the future hold for you, Miroslav?
McDonian 2 years ago
please be so kind and and stop whatever propagande you learned. I know you are innocent.
I dont know whats in fyrom is but i know that in serbia a lot greeks live today. How do you think they came there? At that time there was a civil war. The communists lost despite the help of tito. This what you see in the video is the result of it. The sister of my grandmother is btw in bulgaria. There was no nongreek macedonian between those kid, cause all none greeks fought at the side of he communists.
parmenion96 2 years ago
My old football coach is from lerin he distinctly remembers what had happened to him and his family thus he moved to Australia. Are you going to tell me all those migrants where brainwashed aswell? Despite them living right in the heart of the greek civil war?
mkddanchh 2 years ago
The heard of the civil war is not realy true, there are kids who were refuges during all the period of the civil war. Now the "brainwashed" kids and the KKE families & kinds they left MOSTLY at the end of the civil war and after. When the komunist party lost its support from tito they lost the war than they followed the "burned earth" tactic and for the KKE was to save those kids from what would came ergo to make them socialists. If you can read greek read the KKE literatur of that time
parmenion96 2 years ago
Lerin is florina right? How would you feel if i would call Bitola with it's greek name? Anyway im not hostile towards you or your country. If you are interested in that part of the civil war than please read also about the KKE and search for rizospastis. Dont know if its also in english or not. The polititians have to find a solution. I know the other side of the coin because my family was involved in that. It would help also to look at thrace
Pozdrav iz grcka. Ja sam iz thrakia
parmenion96 2 years ago
Hey dumbshit. Macedonians ARE Greeks . Like the Spartans the Athenians the Korinthians and all the Other Greeks. If these Kids considered themseves ANYTHING Other than Greek why woudl they be singing about the Freedom of Greece? And not just Macedonia. A little education goes a long way. get a library card.
MKSunGR 2 years ago
and another misconception is to separate Macedonians from the rest of the Greeks. Real Macedonians are Greeks not Slavs like the FYROMians.
SPARTANsenator2 2 years ago
Για ακόμη μια φορά άγγιξες την τελειότητα!!!
minottauruss 2 years ago 4
ΜΠΡΑΒΟ ΡΕΜΠΕΤΙΣΣΑ
ANTONIS1986LOK 2 years ago
ΕΞΑΙΡΕΤΙΚΟ 5*
Pausanias4 2 years ago
ΟΤΑΝ ΕΝΑΣ ΓΙΝΕΙ ΚΟΜΜΟΥΝΙΣΤΗΣ, ΠΑΥΕΙ ΠΙΑ ΝΑ ΕΙΝΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ !!
MACEDONIANFONTS 2 years ago
..a,re zahariadi na se iha sta heria mou...
.
aaaax
drmack70 2 years ago
mpravo gia to upload
mpampis210isback 2 years ago
another bullshit? and now these children are greeks I suppose? rofl
funny propaganda you have
bobo87mk 2 years ago
yes you would like everyone to believe that but unfortunately for you the un resolutions the call for the return of the GREEK children that has been well documented works against you. You show only brainwashing nothing more
rempetisa 2 years ago
these children are not Greek...
bobo87mk 2 years ago
the UN resolutions the Red Cross the Multitude of newspapers the thousands of petitions and the video of the children speaking greek which is titled 'GREEK CHILDREN' begs to differ
NemesisWrath 2 years ago 2
Bobo If the Truth is propaganda to you then you need your head examined.
Tito and Stalin have totally scrambled your brain. Your whole existence is a Joke.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago 2
Bobouna Not only are they Greek but the UN knows all of their names. And they trid getting them back from Tito. but he changed all their names and shipped them off to other countries after his plan failed.
GREEKFONTS 2 years ago 3
bobo87mk
Those children were abducted for their Greek genes, Greek blood, and Greek rights.
You people are pathetic...if you think it's funny?
Aegialeus 2 years ago
@bobo87mk
On April 19th, 1950, US President Harry S. Truman made the following statement at the House of Representatives:
"My dear Mr. Speaker,
I fully share the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces, and I welcome the adoption of House Resolution 514 of March 22, 1950, calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland.
ANTONIS1986LOK 1 year ago
@bobo87mk -2-
The rights of children and parents to share the protection, comradeship and beneficent influence of a family home are fundamental and have been implicitly recognized, in the case of the Greek children, in two unanimous resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly. It is morally inadmissible that political considerations or technical difficulties should be allowed to stand in the way of the reunion of these children with their parents.
ANTONIS1986LOK 1 year ago
@bobo87mk -3-
The Executive Branch of the Government has been persistent in its endeavors to secure effective compliance with the United Nations resolutions in this case. These efforts will not be relaxed until the Greek children are back in their homes."
ANTONIS1986LOK 1 year ago
we are victims of politics!
Fuck democray, there is no democracy where is power!
SWIFTerMKD 2 years ago
Skops are Victims of Stalinist Communist propaganda. When they deny their slavic background they only seem more foolish then ever.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
I said "victims of politics" not propaganda! I think I was clear!
SWIFTerMKD 2 years ago
So you think youre a Macedonian?
Not merely a victim of communist brainwashing?
Is that what ur saying? Everything you believe are facts And not 100% propaganda?
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
communist propaganda? watch this!
/watch?v=O3g5omNgphg&feature=channel_page
SWIFTerMKD 2 years ago
This is the real truth ... Excellent video rempetisa
dionisosb 2 years ago
Alexander would only hear the Children. The Slavic was not know to ancient Greeks. The Slavs were nto even in the neighborhood. And besides we have no idea what their language sounded like. They didnt have a written language to a few hundred years ago. so there is No history of their language.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
if they ask for the greek toponyms back then they should also take back their greek language and greek culture and take back their greek names. it is ridiculous to build a nation by taking whatever you feel like from all others
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
i apologise its monastiri not bitola*
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
that the children are Greek is unquestionable their names are all recorded
that they were indoctrinated too is unquestionable as that too is well recorded
that they follow communist policy too is undeniable as their inconsistencies and lack of truthfulness clearly shows
THE REST IS PROPAGANDA
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
the recording of risto stefov calling for a return to Slavic names, names that have no connection to the historically Greek names of Macedonia are available in many forms. posting some obscure comment now that you've been found out to neutralize the obvious is as much a farce as the inconsistent statements made by your propagandists
Nikola Gruevski - we are not Slavs we are Macedonians
Risto Stefov - we are proto slavs
you cant even make up your mind which version of history to present
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
To Mayor Vladimir Taleski.
We ask you to change the Slavic name of our city and to bring back the real Macedonian name heraclea .
If Alexander the great could talk this is what he would ask from us. We are not slavs we are Macedonians.
Bitola is a Slavic name . The Slavic Bulgarian bitola name should be removed dear Mayor.
We must bring back the genuine Macedonian name of our city. not forget that Alexander believed he was a descendent of Hercules .
we are Macedonians, not slavs
BitolaHeraclea 2 years ago
firstly shoudnt someone claiming that they want original named use the original names in their id? its florina not bitola...
in any case..
Life became even harsher after the 1912-1913 Balkan wars. The Greek occupation put an end to all that was Macedonian. Greek policies of forced assimilation erased the Macedonian language and abolished long-standing Macedonian traditions, even in small villages like Oshchima. Place names and buildings alike were given Greek names. (R. Stefov - Oschima 2003)
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
But as far as the Slavo Bulgarians in Skopia were concerned there was nothing before them. God created them first. So in their eyes anything Slavic is original.
ZeusTelemaxos 2 years ago
You forgot to mention that Heraclea is a greek name (as well as Thessalonike for example)
mnls0 2 years ago
yes that is correct. and something further...
In the late 6th century the city suffered successive attacks by Slavic tribes. In place of the deserted theater several houses were built between the 6th century and the 7th century AD, when Slavs settled across the northern regions of the Balkans.
they obscure the clear for those that do not know or do not research truth
NemesisWrath 2 years ago
If Alexander the great could talk what language would you hear?
mnls0 2 years ago
pragmatika teleio video!! bravo rembetisa, ta 5* einai polu liga....!
METAL123345 2 years ago
Excellent video this is a must see by all the brainwashed,rempetisa keep up the good work.
FRANTZHS 2 years ago
Excellent video this is a must see by all the brainwashed,rempetisa keep up the good work.
FRANTZHS 2 years ago
5***** !!!
Kallergianakis 2 years ago
Sad but true!
Nice work patriwtaki!
TheChaonian 2 years ago
Great video rempetisa!
you give them them best proofs of their lies!
mafiozossss 2 years ago 2
poli poli omorfo********
pantilikos 2 years ago
What king of crack did they feed those kids anyway? 5*
StefovianCrackheads 2 years ago
5 stars! Really interesting FACTS!
greecepaladin 2 years ago 2
to paidomazwma twn Ellinopoulwn ap' tous fasisto komounistas anthEllines!!!!
orfan9ma 2 years ago 2
oh shit
ristostefov 2 years ago
the truth will make thir lies evaporate. Nice vid 5 *
MAKTRUTH 2 years ago 6
Talk about a massive VETO VETO VETO VETO!! Monkeys
500000000*
VETOforTito 2 years ago 10
kai allo ena terastio ksevrakoma. Tha trexoun navroun petra na kryftoun.. 28,001 asteria.
TitanOkeanos 2 years ago 8