so compression, compression, compression and oh yeah a bit more compression there too.... no thump man, no bang, dance music died the day compression became an obsession.
I don't understand why he has a machinedrum ... yet he's using sample banks from ESX24. Clueless idiots that don't have a clue how to utilize their equipment.
Well, its not important to be very creative and super talented to make house music. The purpose is to let people dance. Simplicity works very well most of the time for this purpose. Remember that most people cant follow complex chord progressions and rythmic paterns. Specially if you introduce a different time signature then this standard 4/4. House is most of the time accesible to most people.
While its true that much of the creativity has gone from house production - people like Thomas Gold make production accesable. He hasn't tried to pretend what he does is God like Genius like some producers (SHM) but he has enabled the next generation of producers to not be so daunted and to try !!! After all where will the next source of inspiration come from if not the next generation?
People calm down. Yes using 4 EQs and 2 Compressors on a conga hit is not normal and this track is quite boring but have you heard his remix of Silence ?! :O
This is complete bullshit. The brilliant amazing thing about the Machinedrum is it's sequencer (for example you can alter up to 64 parameters per step, making some amazing sound sequences) and he's completely ignoring it! Also having a Dangerous audio summer (the thing above the pro tools interface) is completely unneeded here. He's better off with some samples, rather than paying thousands to get the same result.
There is nothing wrong with taking minimalism to its logical conclusion - clicks and white noise.. but once it has been done, keep exploring new things, not just make the same thing over and over..
all then best musicians are on an exploration/journey, not trying to sound like their idols. it's about finding a way to put your unique identity into sound.. not about making people think you are as cool as your idol or sounding the same to trick them
Hey everyone,if you have kontakt 4 and want a virtual 1978 ARP QUadra then go to my channel and take a look at the software I have developed.And its cheap as chips to by and comes with a sequencer.
all that gear and out comes the most generic, lifeless grooves. This is what happens when people become enslaved by the technology, the music becomes soulless machine music, each song sounds exactly like a thousand others. Exactly why Dance Music is dying. Drugged out clubbers don't know good music from bad, as long as it's polished and has some bass, they eat it up and guys like this pound out cookie cutter garbage day in day out and get rich. This is not what Techno and House music was about.
@erreur Maybee a little bit harsh but i have to agree with you in some points. It's a common problem of many many musicians in the electronic field to produce the shit out of their tracks and don't let mistakes or spontaneity happen. And since everyone can produce music on their computers at home there is so much crap released every day- it's just horrible. You have to be really honest to yourself before you put out stuff!! And DJ's? Most of them play way too functional and focused on one style.
@erreur You can Suck A Big Fat dick Yuo idiot. What do you mean this music is soulless this is Great quality Music. You are listening to a Great producer show you how he made a track and your hating? that sucks for you buddy because dance dance music is not dying Im in california Dance Music Is alive Out here This Music IS FuCKING SICK !!! And Your just a Dumbass
@erreur Dance music in general is pretty garbage. If you cannot actually play an instrument besides plugging notes into the piano roll, you will have no true understanding of music theory (harmonization, chords/modes, chord melody, voice leading, subs etc.)
@erreur Its interesting you think dance music is dying, yet look at mainstream pop music. Everyone is making dance pop look at what effect david guetta had, look the the black eyed peas and lady gaga. its all dance music. Unless you were talking about underground dance music specifically, in which case fair play. Dance music will ruin itself due it its limitations and the elitism of the listeners.
@erreur Its interesting you think dance music is dying, yet look at mainstream pop music. Everyone is making dance pop look at what effect david guetta had, look the the black eyed peas and lady gaga. its all dance music. Unless you were talking about underground dance music specifically, in which case fair play. Dance music will ruin itself due it its limitations and the elitism of the listeners.
I am a dance music producer, just so you know i'm not biased. formatique on google or spotify
@erreur Your intolerance to "that gear and technology" isn't what Techno and House music IS about. I can try to bring it back back to you: love, peace, unity, tolerance, fun, party - that's what it's all about. Why not let people do it their own way. It's not about hardware, software, technology or not - it's about being good at what one does or not!
You don't like, what someone produced? Don't listen to it, don't support it, but please don't be that intolerant, that's not what it's all about!
@erreur Dance Music is dying .. .ahahahahahahah .. what utter trash .. from Omar S through to Shackleton, through to the new works on R&S, back yard, dirty bird, lone, Ophan 101, photek, Ali Love and so on and on ..
@inkybinky I concur..being cynical ,spouting the same predictable and disrespectful tosh at actual successful producers sure does get thumbs up from the youtube monkeys. Its impossible for successful people to post on here without some jerkoff giving them shit.
Thanks Thomas, your vids are informative and its kind of you too share..
From someone into electronic music all their life..Anyone who thinks dance music is dying was only into as a phaze or is simply stuck in the past.
I see your point, but I think Thomas is only showing an example, alot of why everything sounds the same is vegance sample packs I guess etc. *cough knas*
@erreur Dance music isn't dying in any sense. People like Thomas Gold who just pump out one generic track after another have always existed and always will exist, but people who have true talent and true artistic passion are the ones who will stand the test of time. It's easy to get into this preservationist mindset when you see an example of someone like this, and I've done it, but you shouldn't ignore the great talent that's out there today.
@erreur really? what was it about? You think you can easily do what he does? Maybe in some alternate universe house and trance are about sitting in a room discussing what a load of crap it is. In this universe we like to dance to it though. I too, think a good percentage of electronic music is overrated crap but that is always what it's been like and it's always what it will be like. In fact listening to crappy tunes and crappy DJs is what motivates me to be a producer and a DJ .
I hate how old, washed up people try and make the younger feel inferior by talking down on the music of their time. They do it in rap all the time and now in dance music apparently. For you, the exit is over there.
Thomas Gold is killing it right now. You have to respect a guy who waits his turn and is now enjoying his moment in the spot light.
@armaniexchange2 Well most music today is shitty and uninspiring, tbh. The difference between our generation and previous generations is that we have affordable technology with power and resources that increases exponentially, whereas previous generations had more limitations which led to forced creativity. Technology could either be a tool or a crutch, ironically most new music resembles the latter part. Like what @erruer said "This is what happens when people become enslaved by the technology"
@erreur Perhaps you have a setup with minimal "technology" and have put more time and effort into learning to produce than Thomas Gold has. I would love to hear your tunes if that is the case. If not (likely), than maybe you should shut your mouth. I have seen dance floors pump hard to Thomas Gold tracks, and then see the floor die during some old 90s house tune.
@And11992 Are you reading what your posting? Your saying that any music produced electronically comes out lifeless and enslaves people and producers. Its not about the platform, its about the producer using it. Just because a track doesn't have much swing, doesn't mean it can't have groove and life. And since when is dance music dying? And do you really think these producers are that rich?
man ur rly missing the whole point... what ur doing is just 'click compressor click click eg compressor eq tweak tweak eq eq eq tweak tweak compressor click click', wtf the machinedrum is just falling assleep in the background.... machinedrum is supposed to be an intuitiv interface wich u can play like an instrument with hands on control... use fucking 'battery' or something else...
i make u a more grooving beat in 10 secs on any hardware sequencer... thats just a boring way of working
@oooonek if so then you would be the famous one... but your not your just one out of a million haters who have nothing better to do than hate on youtube
Nice studio, boring track. The kind of producer that simply poops 'em out without caring about quality. What does he do near the end of the vid, "now I just switch on the mastering"??? erhm, what? master (as in big) monitors maybe?
@mantrasoul I think he cares A LOT about quality sounds my friend :) Seeing there a nice AD/DA converter of SSL, nice MS-20 ... And what he does at the end is just switching on his master plug chain on the Stereo-out channel, so he can already hear his, untill then, final mix :)
@oceantracks ahhah totally agreed :D these instruments aren't necessary :) I produce without them for I can't afford them YET :D and its also amazing :)
@oceantracks does a hardware sequencer not improve timing and reduce latency? I find with the EXS for example I can get lots of latency, something like this is also more tactile and you can "play" it. It is a bit pricey though.
complete waste of a machinedrum to use it in this way. the whole beauty of that machine is it's sequencer, and how you can play it. yes it has a great sound, so you can get fine results this way, but he is missing the whole point. FAIL
so compression, compression, compression and oh yeah a bit more compression there too.... no thump man, no bang, dance music died the day compression became an obsession.
Alwaysbaggyjeans 1 month ago
@Alwaysbaggyjeans the sidechain is used as a gate , its linked to the kick drum to give it a driving, pumping groove, not to boost frequencies,,
noturkeyzone 2 weeks ago
I don't understand why he has a machinedrum ... yet he's using sample banks from ESX24. Clueless idiots that don't have a clue how to utilize their equipment.
TheForexGuy2009 2 months ago
@TheForexGuy2009 your an idiot!
noturkeyzone 2 weeks ago
Well, its not important to be very creative and super talented to make house music. The purpose is to let people dance. Simplicity works very well most of the time for this purpose. Remember that most people cant follow complex chord progressions and rythmic paterns. Specially if you introduce a different time signature then this standard 4/4. House is most of the time accesible to most people.
oggfish 2 months ago
While its true that much of the creativity has gone from house production - people like Thomas Gold make production accesable. He hasn't tried to pretend what he does is God like Genius like some producers (SHM) but he has enabled the next generation of producers to not be so daunted and to try !!! After all where will the next source of inspiration come from if not the next generation?
bobbydigi27 5 months ago
watn spongo...
DubsMood 8 months ago
..zzZZ...
DubsMood 8 months ago
what is the vst used for the bass?
Pietro151093 8 months ago
to all beggers he does that in 10 minutes and u all wont do anythin in your whole useless life :D
TiagofontesChannel 8 months ago
People calm down. Yes using 4 EQs and 2 Compressors on a conga hit is not normal and this track is quite boring but have you heard his remix of Silence ?! :O
ElluzeoniX 9 months ago
this guy is garbage and i agree with erreur.
Ramazed 9 months ago
1000 bucks for a "drums-only" synth - wow...
domemvs 9 months ago
sorry guys but i actually dig the sound he's making.
sequencerzone 9 months ago
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spectrogrammiterry 11 months ago
This is complete bullshit. The brilliant amazing thing about the Machinedrum is it's sequencer (for example you can alter up to 64 parameters per step, making some amazing sound sequences) and he's completely ignoring it! Also having a Dangerous audio summer (the thing above the pro tools interface) is completely unneeded here. He's better off with some samples, rather than paying thousands to get the same result.
bellerophonrex 11 months ago
Here's what I have to say of wannabe producers:
There is nothing wrong with taking minimalism to its logical conclusion - clicks and white noise.. but once it has been done, keep exploring new things, not just make the same thing over and over..
all then best musicians are on an exploration/journey, not trying to sound like their idols. it's about finding a way to put your unique identity into sound.. not about making people think you are as cool as your idol or sounding the same to trick them
cartesiaLive 1 year ago 4
Very nice professional high quality nineteen to the dozen HIFI beat !
daanhagoort 1 year ago
täusch ich mich oder ist die Klaviatur in den Tisch eingebaut? Und wenn ja, wo bekommt man sowas her bzw. wer baut solche Dinger? :)
raggaesickl 1 year ago
does anybody know what compressor he is using, i need the name of it
joshrynbout 1 year ago
Hey everyone,if you have kontakt 4 and want a virtual 1978 ARP QUadra then go to my channel and take a look at the software I have developed.And its cheap as chips to by and comes with a sequencer.
Peace xxx
SPFXsynthesisers 1 year ago
a waste of equipment!! its essentially a dodgy 4/4 generic trance loop quantized till its dead in the water.
talentedMrRead 1 year ago
all that gear and out comes the most generic, lifeless grooves. This is what happens when people become enslaved by the technology, the music becomes soulless machine music, each song sounds exactly like a thousand others. Exactly why Dance Music is dying. Drugged out clubbers don't know good music from bad, as long as it's polished and has some bass, they eat it up and guys like this pound out cookie cutter garbage day in day out and get rich. This is not what Techno and House music was about.
erreur 1 year ago 39
@erreur i totally disagree with you on that
MiMDMuzik 1 year ago
@erreur Maybee a little bit harsh but i have to agree with you in some points. It's a common problem of many many musicians in the electronic field to produce the shit out of their tracks and don't let mistakes or spontaneity happen. And since everyone can produce music on their computers at home there is so much crap released every day- it's just horrible. You have to be really honest to yourself before you put out stuff!! And DJ's? Most of them play way too functional and focused on one style.
lordoid 1 year ago
@erreur You can Suck A Big Fat dick Yuo idiot. What do you mean this music is soulless this is Great quality Music. You are listening to a Great producer show you how he made a track and your hating? that sucks for you buddy because dance dance music is not dying Im in california Dance Music Is alive Out here This Music IS FuCKING SICK !!! And Your just a Dumbass
G3ra300 1 year ago
@erreur so what do u do instead?
bluesun1989 1 year ago
@erreur I'm sure that you would've done far better sounding loop in 10 minutes. With crappier equipment, of course.
kb1629 1 year ago 2
@erreur Dance music in general is pretty garbage. If you cannot actually play an instrument besides plugging notes into the piano roll, you will have no true understanding of music theory (harmonization, chords/modes, chord melody, voice leading, subs etc.)
3510211 1 year ago
@erreur Its interesting you think dance music is dying, yet look at mainstream pop music. Everyone is making dance pop look at what effect david guetta had, look the the black eyed peas and lady gaga. its all dance music. Unless you were talking about underground dance music specifically, in which case fair play. Dance music will ruin itself due it its limitations and the elitism of the listeners.
Formatique 1 year ago
@erreur Its interesting you think dance music is dying, yet look at mainstream pop music. Everyone is making dance pop look at what effect david guetta had, look the the black eyed peas and lady gaga. its all dance music. Unless you were talking about underground dance music specifically, in which case fair play. Dance music will ruin itself due it its limitations and the elitism of the listeners.
I am a dance music producer, just so you know i'm not biased. formatique on google or spotify
Formatique 1 year ago
@erreur Your intolerance to "that gear and technology" isn't what Techno and House music IS about. I can try to bring it back back to you: love, peace, unity, tolerance, fun, party - that's what it's all about. Why not let people do it their own way. It's not about hardware, software, technology or not - it's about being good at what one does or not!
You don't like, what someone produced? Don't listen to it, don't support it, but please don't be that intolerant, that's not what it's all about!
felixlieb 1 year ago 6
@erreur A little bitter heh? There will always be boring music writers out there with high end gear, thats life.
weatherkop 1 year ago
@erreur Yadi ya, blah blah. Whatever, get out there and make some music then and stop complaining. You want a better scene, create one.
midnightstepper 11 months ago 2
@erreur Dance Music is dying .. .ahahahahahahah .. what utter trash .. from Omar S through to Shackleton, through to the new works on R&S, back yard, dirty bird, lone, Ophan 101, photek, Ali Love and so on and on ..
inkybinky 11 months ago 3
@inkybinky I concur..being cynical ,spouting the same predictable and disrespectful tosh at actual successful producers sure does get thumbs up from the youtube monkeys. Its impossible for successful people to post on here without some jerkoff giving them shit.
Thanks Thomas, your vids are informative and its kind of you too share..
From someone into electronic music all their life..Anyone who thinks dance music is dying was only into as a phaze or is simply stuck in the past.
BenyaminTieh 11 months ago 4
@erreur yeah soundesign fail
danielhl22 10 months ago
@erreur u need to go out more...
HousemanandMrSkeet 10 months ago
@erreur You are so right
shufflemaster58 10 months ago
@erreur
I see your point, but I think Thomas is only showing an example, alot of why everything sounds the same is vegance sample packs I guess etc. *cough knas*
RBW309 10 months ago
@erreur "so what I do next is, I normalize it to get full energy, then I use zeh zide chain compression and start EQ'ing"
he's doing it all wrong and he's so confident doing it. His music sounds like a genetically mutated pig on steroids.
2ManyNoobs 9 months ago
@erreur Dance music isn't dying in any sense. People like Thomas Gold who just pump out one generic track after another have always existed and always will exist, but people who have true talent and true artistic passion are the ones who will stand the test of time. It's easy to get into this preservationist mindset when you see an example of someone like this, and I've done it, but you shouldn't ignore the great talent that's out there today.
scaryfishdude 9 months ago
@erreur really? what was it about? You think you can easily do what he does? Maybe in some alternate universe house and trance are about sitting in a room discussing what a load of crap it is. In this universe we like to dance to it though. I too, think a good percentage of electronic music is overrated crap but that is always what it's been like and it's always what it will be like. In fact listening to crappy tunes and crappy DJs is what motivates me to be a producer and a DJ .
ElluzeoniX 9 months ago
@erreur sorry, you're retarded. look up early electronic music. its progressing, not dying.
MsLemons12 7 months ago 9
@erreur
I hate how old, washed up people try and make the younger feel inferior by talking down on the music of their time. They do it in rap all the time and now in dance music apparently. For you, the exit is over there.
Thomas Gold is killing it right now. You have to respect a guy who waits his turn and is now enjoying his moment in the spot light.
armaniexchange2 6 months ago 5
@armaniexchange2 Well most music today is shitty and uninspiring, tbh. The difference between our generation and previous generations is that we have affordable technology with power and resources that increases exponentially, whereas previous generations had more limitations which led to forced creativity. Technology could either be a tool or a crutch, ironically most new music resembles the latter part. Like what @erruer said "This is what happens when people become enslaved by the technology"
TheReasonableLogic 5 months ago
@erreur Perhaps you have a setup with minimal "technology" and have put more time and effort into learning to produce than Thomas Gold has. I would love to hear your tunes if that is the case. If not (likely), than maybe you should shut your mouth. I have seen dance floors pump hard to Thomas Gold tracks, and then see the floor die during some old 90s house tune.
ninincnals 5 months ago
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And11992 5 months ago
@And11992 Are you reading what your posting? Your saying that any music produced electronically comes out lifeless and enslaves people and producers. Its not about the platform, its about the producer using it. Just because a track doesn't have much swing, doesn't mean it can't have groove and life. And since when is dance music dying? And do you really think these producers are that rich?
ninincnals 5 months ago
@erreur what house producer is rich?!?!?!
THEdjORC 3 months ago
Nice gear buddy! Regards to the Machinedrum... it's to much for your small brain lol!
gsagula2 1 year ago
GENIUS !!
medtanzen 1 year ago
man ur rly missing the whole point... what ur doing is just 'click compressor click click eg compressor eq tweak tweak eq eq eq tweak tweak compressor click click', wtf the machinedrum is just falling assleep in the background.... machinedrum is supposed to be an intuitiv interface wich u can play like an instrument with hands on control... use fucking 'battery' or something else...
i make u a more grooving beat in 10 secs on any hardware sequencer... thats just a boring way of working
oooonek 1 year ago
@oooonek if so then you would be the famous one... but your not your just one out of a million haters who have nothing better to do than hate on youtube
ps. Thomas Gold is a beast!!! just sayin
MiMDMuzik 1 year ago
wow
SyriaTransNapoletana 1 year ago
Nice studio, boring track. The kind of producer that simply poops 'em out without caring about quality. What does he do near the end of the vid, "now I just switch on the mastering"??? erhm, what? master (as in big) monitors maybe?
mantrasoul 1 year ago
@mantrasoul I think he cares A LOT about quality sounds my friend :) Seeing there a nice AD/DA converter of SSL, nice MS-20 ... And what he does at the end is just switching on his master plug chain on the Stereo-out channel, so he can already hear his, untill then, final mix :)
TREBLEANDSONIDO 1 year ago 3
@TREBLEANDSONIDO i think that is a legacy version whatsoever
pomfrit93 1 year ago
toms include a lot of bass ---> EQ :)
carnivourlocust 1 year ago
nice groove!
EssentialRadio 1 year ago
Not a complete waste at all, with a computer you need a hardware sequencer like you need a hole in your head lol The sounds are the object...
oceantracks 1 year ago 13
@oceantracks ahhah totally agreed :D these instruments aren't necessary :) I produce without them for I can't afford them YET :D and its also amazing :)
carnivourlocust 1 year ago
@oceantracks does a hardware sequencer not improve timing and reduce latency? I find with the EXS for example I can get lots of latency, something like this is also more tactile and you can "play" it. It is a bit pricey though.
sqezyplus 8 months ago
complete waste of a machinedrum to use it in this way. the whole beauty of that machine is it's sequencer, and how you can play it. yes it has a great sound, so you can get fine results this way, but he is missing the whole point. FAIL
grain303 1 year ago
@grain303 The only fail I can see is you post..
Senj1n 1 year ago
haaaaaaaa dude is sick.
EvokDubstep 1 year ago
love it
djfeel89 1 year ago
too much side chaining for me... but good none the less...
pinksue 1 year ago
thommy gold awesome :)
KLOHSEF 1 year ago
Can you please post the entire video with Thomas Gold? I would really love to see it! Pleease! :)
rhadooo7 1 year ago
awesome...
Bombastic1809 1 year ago