How could Silverstein saying that the fire department made the decision to pull the fire contingent from the building possibly mean the same thing as "implode a building"? Answer me that, "truthers"?
Looks like this board is job one for the Government debunkers who smear and insult the educated posters here. My nephew is the CEO of a Europeon construction firm that does contract demolition work. His Ph.D is in engineering. He and his collegaues all agree WTC-1-2-7 were blown up via non conventional means. Bush spent a great deal of his time post 9-11, doing all he could to stop any criminal investigation. It worked. The evidence was destroyed, witnesses ignored. They got their wars. Sick.
@TimReed22222 - You realize there have been no less than 10 Ph.D level experts who have published extensive proof the " Holocaust gassings" are a fraud and what happened there?
@390bullitt1968 "You realize there have been no less than 10 Ph.D level experts who have published extensive proof the "Holocaust gassings" are a fraud and what happened there?"
Truther tactic #1: When caught in a lie, change the subject.
Lol @ the idiots that think they demolished WTC 7. "Pull" in demolition means to literally throw cables over an already damaged building and literally pull it down by humans or a machine. The notion that you could "pull" a 47 story skyscraper down with cables is absurd.
Anyone who thinks those buildings fell on their own is not schooled in physics and is not and engineer because those people who are know better, just ask one.
@hiperion900 Now compare WTC 5 with WTC 6 and WTC 4. OMG! The damage was different in each case when it should have been identical. It's a conspiracy! Wake up!
Just look at how densely packed those buildings are, if they didn't pull and demolish the building other buildings will be in danger. Perhaps they had to decide to pull the building to make it collapse in the right way.
@mucker3000 ? How could the damage to neighboring buildings have been any worse than it was??
It's simply ludicrous to suggest someone hurriedly demolished any of those buildings thinking there would be LESS loss of property & life than there was. They were not demolished.
The fact that he said it on TV, on PBS, in an unstressful environment, without people asking him hard questions, is precisely why it's harder to believe. If he was responsible for it, he would have been far more cautious with his words knowing he was on a non-live interview with PBS about 9/11.
he said they couldnt tame the fire, and we've had so much loss of life, THE MOST HONEST THING 2 DO IS PULL??? i dnt think i understand...ur lossing more lifes..
@loudbasschris Yes, and in fact the "truthers" WANT you to be confused about this! They're pushing another interpretation; they want you to believe they were talking about demolishing the building. But that's just not true.
Listen to the firefighters, and it's 100% clear: They were talking about pulling out, and pulling out is exactly what they did!
It collapsed due to fire. No wait they "pulled" it. WTF? Why does'nt this freak the fuck out of everybody? I guarantee we see more and more of these fumbled statements.
It isn't a demo term but at the same time the firfighters were out more than 4 hours before it collapsed so it can't mean them. Anyway either way you look it government al quaeda israel. Not bearded muslim extremist as al quaeda are a US government associate.
"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building heavily involved in fire. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. I issued the orders to pull back the firefighters and define the collapse zone." - FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro
disturbing...ya know...I keep telling myself to get off this part of YouTube and for awhile I do, but it keeps drawing me back. Maybe I keep hoping for that one video that will prove everything but it just keeps getting more and more creepy.
Sure, my profession as a firefighter is to take the role of a controlled demolition expert when I'm not qualified to handle explosives because Truthers think the FDNY did so, reguardless of the fact that no Truther has ever stepped forward with evidence to prove it. Truthers have no idea what the world of firefighting is all about nor the terms or words we use on a daily basis to describe things. Truthers only know 1 thing: Understanding utter bullshit from idiots who make up stories.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Stop using that clishee "truther". If u want to dig deeper u r then a truther? What if ppl are just curious? U c total denial makes u blind. When ppl show u evidences u have no balls to think "what if...". Instead of it u get angry. But I do understand it. Denial is normal act b4 this even traumatizing incident. I mean who could believe own country men did it. And yes no one has no proofs. Thats the point they count on. As always.
Which fire house demoed the building? Do those FDNY firefighters have any demo certificates on hand or are you just making up your mind as you play the conspiracy game?
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong No firehouse pulled the building i said that already.. You're blind and understand nothing about reality.. you think the world is a safe happy place in America. you are overshadowed with lies your government tells you and you take it in like a good little puppet. do actual research and you can see the facts for yourself(i don't mean watching the news..)
"and they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse". Seems IMO a connection between "pulling it" and "watching it collapse" Suggests a short period of time. The real issue is not just what Silverstein said but why and how the building collapsed.
Think about this: Larry Silverstein went to Windows on the World restaurant almost every single day with his son, his daughter worked at one of the WTC bldgs - None of them went to the WTC bldgs that day. Amazing, God only watches out for rich people. That is what they want us to believe.
@no1new1worldorder - One researcher discovered he was on his way to breakfast as usual, but got a call, and was told to keep out of the building. He then called his daughter and told her to stay out of the building. That makes perfect sense. Several Jewish CEO's who practically lived in WTC-2-1 from dawn to dusk every day, just all happened to be LUCKY that day and did other silly erands to occupy their time which kept them safe.
@390bullitt1968 "Several Jewish CEO's who practically lived in WTC-2-1 from dawn to dusk every day, just all happened to be LUCKY that day and did other silly erands? to occupy their time which kept them safe."
Interesting: when I tried to click on the link above to listen to the recorded phone call to verify the timeframe to prepare for a controlled demolition, it was already deleted. Amazing. Think about all these things - it just does not smell right does it?
So one of the biggest hoaxes ever orchestrated...with thousands of co-conspirators...and Silverstein just casually admits his involvement in a planned demolition on VIDEO!? Surely you people aren't that dumb. If he was involved, do you really think he would have gotten the insurance payout. Use your brains.
@spin467 Him admitting that gives an excuse for wtc-7 to have fell.. but firefighters don't demolish buildings so his claim was bullshit.. he took out a claim on the towers specifically making sure "terroristic acts" were part of it. he then got 7 billion dollars for the towers. he was making money and the government was getting what they wanted.. it worked for both ends.
As far as why he said "pull it". Why not? Why would he tell the firemen to "pull it"? That means the firemen would have to be in on it witch makes no sense. If that was the case, then he would be telling a demolition expert that he paid off to "pull it". It just does not make sense.
@junito762004 It makes perfect sense once you realize they weren't talking about blowing up the building at all - they were talking about evacuating the firefighters. Pulling the operation.
Because it does not make sense. He is an educated person and I'm sure he has common sense. Why would he implicate himself like that? On TV? Only people with no common sense do that. And in my opinion I think it goes way higher than Larry Silverstein. The video clearly shows that there were explosives. I just don't think he or the firemen had anything to do with it. They were clueless.
"pull" and "collapse" right next to each other. Sounds more about demolition than fire to me.
From what I understand the WTC buildings were full of asbestos and needed tens of millions of dollars of upgrade... would have taken years to do with permits. All accomplished in one day. With a handsome profit on top of it!
Please don't get me wrong. I for one believe it was deliberate. But... Silverstien's words were taken out of context here. What he was saying was to stop trying to put the fire out. That's what he meant by "pull it. Sometimes people see and hear what they want to hear.
@junito762004 With all the more logical choices of words available to convey a desire to abandon efforts, why would a phrase like "pull it" which denotes destruction or death be used?
@ThisPageStaysREAL Because it does not make sense. He is an educated person and I'm sure he has common sense. Why would he implicate himself like that? On TV? Only people with no common sense do that. And in my opinion I think it goes way higher than Larry Silverstein. The video clearly shows that there were explosives. I just don't think he or the firemen had anything to do with it. They were clueless.
@ThisPageStaysREAL As far as why he said "pull it". Why not? Why would he tell the firemen to "pull it"? That means the firemen would have to be in on it witch makes no sense. If that was the case, then he would be telling a demolition expert that he paid off to "pull it". It just does not make sense.
Another possibility is that he is refering to the operatioin by the fire department. 'Pull it' in this context would mean pull the operation and get the firemen out. This interpretaiton is supported by many of the firemen involved in the operation. I have seen fire dept footage from the day where the firemen are discussing the order to withdraw (pull - their words, not mine) because the building is coming down. I don't know which story is right. I'm just saying BE TRULY SCEPTICAL.
@HardcoreJungFunk I don't know what time they were pulled out of the building but I know they were working close to the building all day. I've seen footage of the NYFD right next to the building, talking about how badly damaged it is and how the commanders are considering pulling it down. Since when do the fire dept blow up buildings? Like I said I don't know the truth any more than you do, but I consider these two explanations more plausible than a controlled demolition.
@djembeweaver You are correct; the FDNY were on the grounds of 7 all afternoon performing search & rescue and preparing to re-enter the building when the "pull" order came down, at which time they withdrew.
Google "Nick Visconti Firehouse" to read FDNY Chief Visconti's account of the operation & withdrawal from bld 7.
@TimReed22222 Thanks for that - I've never read that before. So either the fire dept were in on it, or this whole controlled demolition hypothesis is a big red herring. I know where my money is. Given that the Bush administration is probably culpuble in some less dramatic way (they certainly did have specific intelligence about an imminent attack at least a month before 911) I think this sort of thing distracts attention from the most important issues.
@djembeweaver check out "WTC 7: The Smoking Gun of 9/11"
In the video there are men that I originally thought were firefighters, but realized after seeing the video again that they were not. They make a comment about "keep your eye on that building because it's about to come down." So firefighters were there doing their job fighting the fires, alongside some guys that knew about the building coming down. You don't wire a demolition in the middle of a fire, so this was organized ahead of time.
Come on people - at least apply the same level of scepticism to all 911 theories. What he actually says is 'we made the decision to pull it'. Sure, you can take a short cut to actually thinking and just believe the conspiracy theory that 'pull' is a standard term used in controlled demolition.....or you can do some research yourself. I did and found that the term 'pull' is not used in this context. It refers to pulling a building over with cables. Many buildings were 'pulled' by cables on 911.
@koolbossjock I agree with you. It was not pulled down by cables. I was just pointing out that this has been used as one possible interpretation of Larry Silverstein's remark. By the way, it's not a new one - this one has been floating about for 10 years or so. My point was that you should be sceptical about every interpretation, and that involves a little research.
@djembeweaver "pulled with cables"? ah ah ah you are so funny.by the way,if it was pulled with cables they would still be lying because they say it was caused by fire.larry "lucky" silverstein gained around 500 million from the wtc7 collapse.
ehi,i've got a bottle of water that i'm trying to sell for 500 dollars.are you interested?
@geiuy I never said it was pulled down by cables; I said lots of building were. All I have done is present two alternative explanations and suggest that an equal amount of scepticism be applied to all three. You cannot call yourself a sceptic if you accept any argument at face value.
the passports are just part of the whole crappy false story.
Why should they survive when the black boxes and engines dont?
Out of all the incriminating evidence you could wish for passports are very high on the list and hey! presto! they turn up when the whole plane has vanished..#
Consumed in a massive crash and fireball. Those passports sure were fireproof.
I understand that some people believe in the official story and I don't fault them for that. However, those that believe in the official story that choose to insult those that don't. There is something seriously wrong with you. Who do you think you are? What makes you so damn sure that you were not lied to? So many unanswered questions, yet you decide to harass those of who want the TRUTH! Shame on you! Karma will someday bite you all in the ass! Good luck to all of you! Peace out!
Do a google search and you will find images of crews using cables to pull down building 7. As a demolitions phrase the term "pull it" refers to using cables to either pull down a building or to pull it away from another building.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since demolition experts estimated it would take over 100 men 4-6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7, how come no one witnessed any strange construction activity, wires, or boxes?
What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
@ctcole77 Answer 1, A stock broker says there was numerous power cuts coupled with extensive building work and network wiring in the tower where he rented a floor. They also changed the security guard company before 9/11
Answer 2, dunno about this.
Answer 3, the day after 9/11 only two passports were found and immediately the news reported have these proved who two of the terrorists were. Even if you believe the official version you should chuck out this evidence.
@ctcole77 Answer 3, continued. Whilst I still believed in the official version when I heard they knew who two of the terrorists were because they found their passports in the street I knew that bit was made up. OK, I thought, so they already had a lead on the terrorists, this BS about passports is just their way of telling us they are on the case and making progress. You see how I rationalized what I knew to be a lie? Why can't you do that instead of believing BS?
@jvidell Do that same google search and go back further through all the pages. When you get as far as say the 90's. You will see in many legal documents that the phrases "pull it", "pull up", "pull", etc.. Is used in all types of demolition. Whether it be from hydraulics, explosives, etc. Demolition is to demolish, doesn't matter which form, it still means the same. So for anyone to claim that "pull it" has nothing to do with controlled demolition or otherwise, it is clearly dishonest. j/s
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
@ctcole77 Answer 1, WTC7 collapse was unnatural and was not shown on TV. WTC 1 was more convincing because the fall started at the plane impact. It was shown more on TV but the most shown footage was the plane impact.
Answer 2, I expect the planes were automatically flown, not by hijackers.
Answer 3, Maybe we should just rule out confessions as inadmissible since Larry confessed that he did WTC7.
Why does N.I.S.T. REFUSE to this day to test for exotic accelerants in the most heinous crime in U.S. history? With the first high rise building collapses in history, why would N.I.S.T. NOT test for accelerants? Especially, with so many indicators, one in which we have lost so many lives, so many People, so many Freedoms, and our Economy. FIREFIGHTERSfor911TRUTH . ORG
President Bush and Vice President Cheney refused to testify publicly under oath. They finally made a deal with the Commission to testify on April 29, 2004, with specific conditions:
o They would testify together,
o They would testify? behind closed doors,
o They would not be under oath, and
o Their testimony would not be recorded electronically or transcribed
Why dont you idiots watch the UNEDITED video of Building 7 collapsing, and see how it collapsed progressively and did not free fall AT ALL.
Fucking idiots watching this edited videos. How ironic that it is YOU being lied to. It really is fascinating how thick you all are.
The UNEDITED version of the building 7 can be seen at ItWasTyped. com under the Building 7 post in the conspiracy theory section. Raging fires and all. The ENTIRE collapse, no editing bullshit.
@NoNORADon911 are you an expert on planes? buildings? demolitions? didn't think so.
Have a look at ItWasTyped. com kiddo. All I'm asking is that you read the conspiracy theory posts. Once you've read them and understood them, let's see what your response is.
Time to grow up son. Your first step is understand WHY you want to believe in this inside job nonsense. Looking for someone to blame for the world's (and your) problems, perhaps?
@NoNORADon911 and there are 1600 other architects & engineers saying the opposite. Let me guess: they are on the "inside". Ha! You consp. theorists really do get more pathetic and desperate as time goes on! You say that website is shit but did you actually read any of the posts under the conspiracy theory section? What is your response to them? Because all you do is say its shit, but you dont address the fact that it debunks everything you believe! LOL. ItWasTyped. com .. educate yourself kid
@NoNORADon911 ItWasTyped. com under the 'conspiracy theory' section. Quit getting mad and just look into the reasons why you are wrong. Can you answer the questions posed by that site? Where were the Iraqis on 9/11? Why do conspiracy theorists ignore the footage that proves them wrong? why do they omit the parts of videos that disprove what they believe?
because theyre full of shit, and they know it. Idiots like you keep alex jones paid. say hi to him as you lick his old wrinkled asshole. haha!
@culturebully3 I have read the 19 characteristics of a conspiracy theorist. All very cute really. Quite well observed from the point of view of an official versionist. But it observes things as if they are faults with the Conspiracy Theorist. Believing 9/11 was an inside job is seen as a fault. Not believing jet planes could bring down the twin towers when we have seen that they can. That simply shows your fault of accepting the official version as proof unto itself.
@culturebully3 The 19 characteristics clearly show the failings of people who don't question the official version. Point 16, in ability to tell good evidence from bad. We have people who believe that terrorist passports were found in the rubble and that these were critical in ID'ing the terrorists. Which ever side you agree with that particular evidence should not be believed. If you believe in the found passports then you have no credibility.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1600+ architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?
Who was Ali Mohamed and what is his relationship with Osama Bin Laden and the CIA?
The decision to pull??? What the hell does that mean? "Go ahead and blow up the building with prepositioned explosive. total lies and an inside job. Every soldier who died in these two wars died as a result of lies.
@TimReed22222 NO....but somebody/organization did. That building was wired to blow weeks before. The fire was just a convenient poorly orchestrated cover. That fact that the corporate media did not question this implicates them in the cover up and overall 911 operation.
@alderete74 But wait - one thing we can agree on here is that it was the FIREFIGHTERS who made the decision to pull. Not Silverstein. The FIREFIGHTERS. Both Silverstein and the FDNY chief agree on this.
So if you think "pull" means "blow up the building with prepositioned explosive" then you think the FDNY was involved in the demolition of building 7; there is no other conclusion.
@TimReed22222 hahahahaahah... to pull a building is not easy.. takes weeks of preparing explosive devices... but one thing is forshure... that it wasnt done by the terorrists with boxcutters
@zelenko2 None, huh? So the FDNY did *not* blow up the building. Okay, I agree.
But it was the FIRE DEPARTMENT Larry was speaking to when he said "they made that decision to pull" ... and the FDNY *chief* claimed responsibility for giving the "pull" order (and dozens of veteran FDNY officers & firefighters concur.)
SO ... I guess there is only one logical conclusion: When they said "pull" here were talking about EVACUATING, not demolishing.
I would not have paid this idiot a dime. I would have insisted on having our own investigation and dragged it out long after Larry was dead and buried. If at any point in the investigation, we found the potential of being an inside job he would get nothing.
ALL FOUR(4) CORNERS OF BUILDING 7 LOOSE ALL SUPPORT AT THE SAME TIME, AND THE WHOLE BUILDING GOES INTO FREE-FALL = CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! ...9/11 = 100% INSIDE JOB and a COVERUP
@Born2Flesh I wouldn't say that this evidence of a 100% 9/11 coverup. I think that this is evidence that there was a lack of communication between the various people involved in this operation. Once some people started denying that WTC7 fell by CD, perhaps others started thinking that if they admit to one CD operation that people may start questioning whether other WTC buildings were also CD'ed. Maybe in order to keep people from freaking out about a govt. coverup, they decided on a coverup.
Those buildings should of been thoroughly tested to see how they fell down. You can see in some photos the main columns were cut at 45 degree angle. The cutter charges cut them and they are at the bottom. The evidence is right there. Who knows about Silverstein. He didn't pull off 9/11 he just leased the buildings the mossad agents might have approached him. If citizens controlled this country we would not have Mossad agents roaming around either.
Pull the men out? Since when does he decide? He didn't own the buildings. He can say you guys might want to pull your men for what reason? How did tower seven catch on firel These towers are made of steel and if they catch on fire you put it out. These buildings have millions of tons of steel. You need to go look at the size of the columns they use. I'm sure there are Grand mothers who have never seen any steel who might believe they just fell down, but I've built steel buildings and I know
So you believe he was involved in the planning of the biggest conspiracy in history. At least 1000 people have kept quiet about it. There is not a shred of evidence or one witness of the explosions. He is that brilliant! Then he just goes on TV and lets the cat out of the back stating he demolished the building. Now all of you pick up on this but the insurance company clearly missed it as they paid out in full. Next stupid theory please!
@WillShakespeare2007 They paid out because they were told to pay out. WHen have you ever heard of the insurance company say shit? Have they said anything about having to pay for the Murrah building in Oklahoma the BATF blew up? Insurance companies are loaded. Silverstein could have cut a deal with the person who owns the company and gave him some of the billions. That's not hard to figure out. THE FBI blew up the trade towers in 1993. DID the insurance companies say anything then?
@tubeyou9878 - What utter nonsense. Do you have one shred of evidence for any of that? Insurance companies do not survive by just giving away money. 7
Every country on earth has terrorism it is only Americans that are so arrogant that they cannot accept that it happened to them too.
Want to explain how, what you are stating is the greatest terror genius in history when on TV and accidentally admitted the demolition of building 7? Genius one minute idiot next?
@WillShakespeare2007 You just said it. He said he pulled tower 7 but is he in jail? Insurance companies invest money and where $2,000,000 is a lot of money to us is peanuts to them. I don't know exactly how it works, but SIlverstein might have gotten the money installments, but if he got all the money and he's made interest off the money since 9/11 he's done well. He's just a cunning Jew and he leased the towers and the Mossad pulled it off. The towers would have had the asbestos removed
@tubeyou9878 - To paraphrase the conversation - he says he told the fire chief that they had already had such terrible loss of life that day that he should pull his men out of the building. The fire chief pulled his men out and they later saw the building collapse. Pull does not mean demolish.
You are claiming he just came out and admitted blowing up the building after the most elaborate conspiracy in history. Why would he do that? Sorry it is absurd. And your Jew comment was just racist.
@WillShakespeare2007 And your claiming he said something when he didnt. What Larry said was 'we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it and they made that decision to pull', it, refers to an onject, if he was on about firefighters he would of said 'pull them', would you describe a group of people as 'it'? Why would he do it? Well he did get them insured for a 99 year lease, 7 weeks before (conveiniently) so one presumes he got one heck of a payout!
@westlifesbabygirl17 - An operation is an "it". eg Did you continue with the hike despite the bad weather? No we decided to pull it.
You're suggesting these people pulled off the biggest conspiracy in history including faking phone calls from planes and attaching explosives etc etc without leaving a shred of evidence and then DUH! he goes on T.V. and accidentally lets slip he demolished the building. Then the insurance company just paid out a billion anyway. Nonsense!
@WillShakespeare2007 An operation...like a CD, exactly. No evidence..well you could easily turn that around and say that there is also no evidence that they collapsed due to fire alone too. Although some might call a passport falling from the sky, avoiding any fire to land perfectly on the ground some sort of evidence, people burnt, planes burnt, buildings burnt, passport didnt, miracle eh? B7 was completely omitted from the official report, why?Cant you see theres loads of questions unanswered?
@westlifesbabygirl17 there are plenty of places that have answers to your questions, you just don't look for them properly.
Try the conspiracy theory tab at ItWasTyped. com .. there's even an entire post specifically about Building 7, including UNEDITED footage of the building collapse. Believe it or not, you 'truthers' have been watching EDITED footage, created by morons like Alex Jones who need you to believe in this inside job nonsense.
@culturebully3 I dont believe anything anyone tells me, i simply look at the hundreds of unanswered question that still remain after that ridiculous 9/11 commision report. You people choose to believe whatever crap the Govt come out with and completely ignore the questions they also ignore. 3 buildings collapse due to fire in one day when it has never happened in history before, that is suspicious enough. Then we come to the Pentagon which, to any sane person, draws its own conclusion.
@westlifesbabygirl17 *sigh* that's what I'm telling you, there ARE answers to your questions. Visit ItWasTyped. com and look under the 'conspiracy theory' section. It deals with everything with logic, facts and common sense.
Nobody is saying that the government/media lie to us, to an extent. But it's important to separate the lies from the paranoid horror stories. ItWasTyped. com is a good place to start
@WillShakespeare2007 That insurance company paid this Jew 3,5 billion. But they get tax breaks for paying out lots of money. Maybe they paid the money in installments. But that much money might be a drop in the bucket to that company. Something stinks though I mean would you pay out the money? I've seen people who have been hurt and the insurance companies held out. They finally paid out $50,000 after ten years. What did they hand this Jew 3.5 billion in a few weeks?
You haven't seen any of the videos they show you the explosives going off? You haven't heard any testimony of people who heard bombs going off? WHen you're in a building and bombs are going off. You know what it is. I can't believe it's been ten years and people haven't seem the evidence. Forget the arguing. I solved the JFK assassination by looking at the videos. The mooonlandings were fake and the videos prove it. 9/11 is such a blatant crime played out right before our eyes;
@tubeyou9878 - I don't like so many post so I will leave a short response to each. There are no videos of "explosives going off". You say people say they 2heard" bombs going off? Interesting no one say them isn't it. They heard secondary explosions and assumed they heard bombs. How many of these people have heard bombs before and so offer expert testimony?
@WillShakespeare2007 The smoke blowing out 150' from the buildings is the cutter charges. They have a protective blanket and you xan even see the flashes in some, but the way they fell down makes no sense. Because at the very most if it was posible that all the steel on one floor did completely melt the whole steel got orange the most if would have done is slowly settled some on the next floor. The fire wouldn't weaken the steel all the way donw. Ask any engineer what would happen if you
had 10,000 people with cutting touches turned up not to cut the steel but turned way up to heat the steel maybe 3,500 degrees which was way on hotter than the fire got. But ask them if that many people had torches and were heating the steel all over every inch to orange hot what would happen? At the most the steel would just settle down on the floor below it. The steel wouldn't let got like the steel turned to molten lava and then hit the next floor and every floor below it just let go instantly
I mean if it was possible and the plane hit at the lower floors and it was posible the steel got orange hot and weakened then the whole thing could have fallen over. But tryign to say yes those buildings would have turned to dust and all the rivets let go, then you better go see a high rise when they are building them and look at the tgick steel and you'll realize it's not possible. I've built apartments 10 stories and I know. I know how much heat it takes. I know that they couldn't have fallen
@Sambuca6178 - How paranoid are you? So anyone that disagrees with you is a government agent? You have to be kidding me. Hey maybe I am also paid by NASA to claim the moon landings are real and by the Beatles to say Paul McCartney is not dead. The difference between you and me is I apply logical thinking, consider the evidence from both sides of the argument and then make up my mind. You however are blinded by hatred, believe any conspiracy you hear about and do not require evidence.
The government always are involved. The government murdered those people in Waco and we saw that. The government was involved in the 1993 trade tower bombings and they blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma city. 9/11 is an inside job. FBI and CIA agents made millions shorting stocks prior to 9/11. An FBI agent makes millions shorting stocks, but Martha Stewart goes to jail because someone told her something and she sell her own stock. The FBI should be abolished right along withe the CIA.
FIrst I suggest you start looking at the videos. There is one you can see the wing vanish which proves it was a hologram and not a plane. There are many videos that show the bombs going off. Let's say those fires could burn hot enough and the steel became white hot; Wouldn't that floor have just settled onto the next floor? That is if it could have heated every single rivet and then the steel main columns. Habe you seen how thick that steel is? Even if all the steel was heated 2,000 degrees
@WillShakespeare2007 This is the first time you've heard of this? There is one clear video you can see the wing suddenly vanish, because the smoke screen blocked the object. If this is the first you've heard of this you need to crawl back under your rock. You haven't looked at shit coming in here harassing people. Those gray looking planes did you see any windowsl DId you see the videos that showed you it had a pod underneathll Plus on both planws you can see a flash just before the planes hit
@tubeyou9878 - No it is not the first time I have heard of it but those that believe this are total idiots. Even the truth movement thinks anyone that believes this is an idiot. I just had a truther on another video trying to convince me that anyone that believes the hologram idea is a government shill trying to discredit the truth movement. I find it almost impossible to believe anyone could be such an idiot but there you are - holograms - what a fucking idiot. No time for morons sorry.
@WillShakespeare2007 I'm going to make a hologram look ike a penis and then you'll bend over, but it will be a grenade. You're talking about the federal government. They have access to technology we won't see for 20 years.
Most people will only realize if someone took a real 757 and slam it into a building and then you would see the wings fall off and 5,000 gallons of kerosene flowing down the building all on fire That's a lot of kerosene. If the videos don'y show you, then I can't do it.
Did the insurance companies bulk at pying out the Oklahoma City bombing? They are a rip off to begin with. If those insurance companies were smart they would have demanded an investigation. I've had claims for $800 and they send an insurance adjuster around. What happened there they paid out 3.5 billion without hesitation. If they owed you that much you would be ten years getting the money so theh couls make interest.
would not cause the steel to fail. So that should tell anyone it was bombs. Engineers know this. They all know it was bombs. They would try to sell to you the Arabs placed bombs in the buildings, but they know you wouldn't buy that. BUt to believe those buildings could just fall down like that need to go look at a high rise they are building somewhere. Look at the thick steel and look at the millions of bolts. THen you would realize there is no way those buildings fell down> they were dynamited,
The debris was MOVED to New Jersey & Staten Island, where it was examined. For MONTHS. And they saved hundreds of pieces. watch?v=35zZeNcIAZ8
And how did all that debris get off Manhattan, anyway? Answer: It was picked over, by hand, by HUNDREDS of firefighters, demolitions experts & other rescue workers. For seven months.
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How could Silverstein saying that the fire department made the decision to pull the fire contingent from the building possibly mean the same thing as "implode a building"? Answer me that, "truthers"?
MazJax 1 day ago
Looks like this board is job one for the Government debunkers who smear and insult the educated posters here. My nephew is the CEO of a Europeon construction firm that does contract demolition work. His Ph.D is in engineering. He and his collegaues all agree WTC-1-2-7 were blown up via non conventional means. Bush spent a great deal of his time post 9-11, doing all he could to stop any criminal investigation. It worked. The evidence was destroyed, witnesses ignored. They got their wars. Sick.
390bullitt1968 4 days ago
@390bullitt1968 "He and his collegaues all agree WTC-1-2-7 were blown up via non conventional means."
Well, then, all they have to do is publish their research & they'll blow this whole conspiracy wide open!!
So where is their paper?
TimReed22222 2 days ago
@TimReed22222 - You realize there have been no less than 10 Ph.D level experts who have published extensive proof the " Holocaust gassings" are a fraud and what happened there?
390bullitt1968 2 days ago
@390bullitt1968 "You realize there have been no less than 10 Ph.D level experts who have published extensive proof the "Holocaust gassings" are a fraud and what happened there?"
Truther tactic #1: When caught in a lie, change the subject.
TimReed22222 1 day ago
Lol @ the idiots that think they demolished WTC 7. "Pull" in demolition means to literally throw cables over an already damaged building and literally pull it down by humans or a machine. The notion that you could "pull" a 47 story skyscraper down with cables is absurd.
vivalaryan54 6 days ago 2
Anyone who thinks those buildings fell on their own is not schooled in physics and is not and engineer because those people who are know better, just ask one.
QUICKIRONS 1 week ago
@QUICKIRONS No one says they fell on their own. They had help from fires that burned for 7 hours.
PoetryHound 1 week ago
@PoetryHound
Ok.
Look at WTC5.
It did not collapse.
Now compare to WTC7.
You are on thin ice my fellow human.
hiperion900 1 week ago
@hiperion900 Now compare WTC 5 with WTC 6 and WTC 4. OMG! The damage was different in each case when it should have been identical. It's a conspiracy! Wake up!
PoetryHound 1 week ago
Just a thought.
mucker3000 3 weeks ago
Just look at how densely packed those buildings are, if they didn't pull and demolish the building other buildings will be in danger. Perhaps they had to decide to pull the building to make it collapse in the right way.
mucker3000 3 weeks ago
@mucker3000 ? How could the damage to neighboring buildings have been any worse than it was??
It's simply ludicrous to suggest someone hurriedly demolished any of those buildings thinking there would be LESS loss of property & life than there was. They were not demolished.
TimReed22222 3 weeks ago
Pull it could mean a lot of different things.
It is used as a demolition term though.
What not many people dont know is that wtc7 was evacuated well before either of the twin had collapsed.
This is a sppok building housing the secret service CIA FBI etc and should be bombproof.
zenoist2 4 weeks ago
Pull youre pud larry over all that money youre getting.
3000 lives is nothing compared to money.
zenoist2 4 weeks ago
The fact that he said it on TV, on PBS, in an unstressful environment, without people asking him hard questions, is precisely why it's harder to believe. If he was responsible for it, he would have been far more cautious with his words knowing he was on a non-live interview with PBS about 9/11.
brmcint 1 month ago
@brmcint
Google up "Michael Hess" and let me know what you think.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
he said they couldnt tame the fire, and we've had so much loss of life, THE MOST HONEST THING 2 DO IS PULL??? i dnt think i understand...ur lossing more lifes..
loudbasschris 1 month ago
@loudbasschris By "pull" they meant WITHDRAW - pull out!
That's how you prevent further loss of life: You pull your men out of harm's way.
TimReed22222 1 month ago 2
@TimReed22222..oooohhh..i was kinda thinkin thats what he meant..wasnt sure tho..TY
loudbasschris 1 month ago
@loudbasschris Yes, and in fact the "truthers" WANT you to be confused about this! They're pushing another interpretation; they want you to believe they were talking about demolishing the building. But that's just not true.
Listen to the firefighters, and it's 100% clear: They were talking about pulling out, and pulling out is exactly what they did!
TimReed22222 1 month ago
It collapsed due to fire. No wait they "pulled" it. WTF? Why does'nt this freak the fuck out of everybody? I guarantee we see more and more of these fumbled statements.
skyrimarama 1 month ago
@skyrimarama and the twin towers collapsed due to fire too? in a free fall into their own footprint like wtc-7?
JMcMac21 1 month ago
@JMcMac21 The towers did NOT fall in free fall, NOR did they fall into their own footprints. These are myths pushed by the truth movement.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Super.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
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If any Truther out there can tell me which FDNY Fire House has Demolition Experience, please by all means show us the evidence.
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TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
It isn't a demo term but at the same time the firfighters were out more than 4 hours before it collapsed so it can't mean them. Anyway either way you look it government al quaeda israel. Not bearded muslim extremist as al quaeda are a US government associate.
RickAstley56 1 month ago
the people will see the truth
aadrianlee 1 month ago
Alex Jones: "We got the firemen saying they pulled it." NO, Alex, they did not! They said they PULLED OUT.
Alex Jones is a proven liar, and anyone who listens to anything he says is a fool.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building heavily involved in fire. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. I issued the orders to pull back the firefighters and define the collapse zone." - FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro
TimReed22222 1 month ago
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disturbing...ya know...I keep telling myself to get off this part of YouTube and for awhile I do, but it keeps drawing me back. Maybe I keep hoping for that one video that will prove everything but it just keeps getting more and more creepy.
Oasix21 2 months ago
fake and gay
890gg90 2 months ago
Pull it = Get everyone out and just let it fall
SubjectRuled 2 months ago
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an article on 9/11 truther deaths: itwastyped. com/ ?p=508
very interesting indeed. are you all just being paranoid?
culturebully3 2 months ago
Sure, my profession as a firefighter is to take the role of a controlled demolition expert when I'm not qualified to handle explosives because Truthers think the FDNY did so, reguardless of the fact that no Truther has ever stepped forward with evidence to prove it. Truthers have no idea what the world of firefighting is all about nor the terms or words we use on a daily basis to describe things. Truthers only know 1 thing: Understanding utter bullshit from idiots who make up stories.
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Scumbot404 2 months ago
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@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Stop using that clishee "truther". If u want to dig deeper u r then a truther? What if ppl are just curious? U c total denial makes u blind. When ppl show u evidences u have no balls to think "what if...". Instead of it u get angry. But I do understand it. Denial is normal act b4 this even traumatizing incident. I mean who could believe own country men did it. And yes no one has no proofs. Thats the point they count on. As always.
Scumbot404 2 months ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong - Just curious but, well ummm, what are you talking about?
electrodes1300 2 months ago
@electrodes1300
See what I mean about Truthers not knowing WTF they're talking about when it comes to firefighting?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 2 months ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong So firefighters didn't pull the building... but someone did.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
@JMcMac21
Who is this someone? Do they have experience in demolishing buildings? Do they own a demolition firm?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Not sure. Seeing the way the building fell, yes. and Probably
JMcMac21 1 month ago
@JMcMac21
Which fire house demoed the building? Do those FDNY firefighters have any demo certificates on hand or are you just making up your mind as you play the conspiracy game?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong No firehouse pulled the building i said that already.. You're blind and understand nothing about reality.. you think the world is a safe happy place in America. you are overshadowed with lies your government tells you and you take it in like a good little puppet. do actual research and you can see the facts for yourself(i don't mean watching the news..)
JMcMac21 1 month ago
@JMcMac21
I did the research and the evidence I see points me in the right direction, that 9/11 wasn't some retarded "Inside Job".
Now why don't you do everyone a favor, go live in North Korea if you hate America. You love to think like a communist, then go live with them.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Ok, will do.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
"and they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse". Seems IMO a connection between "pulling it" and "watching it collapse" Suggests a short period of time. The real issue is not just what Silverstein said but why and how the building collapsed.
fish5133 2 months ago
Think about this: Larry Silverstein went to Windows on the World restaurant almost every single day with his son, his daughter worked at one of the WTC bldgs - None of them went to the WTC bldgs that day. Amazing, God only watches out for rich people. That is what they want us to believe.
no1new1worldorder 2 months ago
@no1new1worldorder - One researcher discovered he was on his way to breakfast as usual, but got a call, and was told to keep out of the building. He then called his daughter and told her to stay out of the building. That makes perfect sense. Several Jewish CEO's who practically lived in WTC-2-1 from dawn to dusk every day, just all happened to be LUCKY that day and did other silly erands to occupy their time which kept them safe.
390bullitt1968 4 days ago
@390bullitt1968 "Several Jewish CEO's who practically lived in WTC-2-1 from dawn to dusk every day, just all happened to be LUCKY that day and did other silly erands? to occupy their time which kept them safe."
Your evidence of this?
TimReed22222 2 days ago
@TimReed22222 - I am not a errrand boy. Do you own research like I did.
390bullitt1968 2 days ago
@390bullitt1968 "I am not a errrand boy. Do you own research like I did."
Truther tactic #2: When asked to produce evidence, tell the questioner to "do your own research."
TimReed22222 1 day ago
@TimReed22222 - Government shill. LOL.
390bullitt1968 1 day ago
@390bullitt1968
Truther tactic #3: Oh, you get the idea ...
TimReed22222 1 day ago
Interesting: when I tried to click on the link above to listen to the recorded phone call to verify the timeframe to prepare for a controlled demolition, it was already deleted. Amazing. Think about all these things - it just does not smell right does it?
no1new1worldorder 2 months ago
i just looked up "9/11" in the Websters Dictionary and it say's "Inside Job" next to it..
SUPERTOUCH777 2 months ago 2
You people are so irrational, a bunch of retards actually
MengSeeMengDo 2 months ago
@MengSeeMengDo Retardation, really? What did I miss? Why are people retarded?
electrodes1300 2 months ago
So one of the biggest hoaxes ever orchestrated...with thousands of co-conspirators...and Silverstein just casually admits his involvement in a planned demolition on VIDEO!? Surely you people aren't that dumb. If he was involved, do you really think he would have gotten the insurance payout. Use your brains.
spin467 2 months ago
@spin467 Him admitting that gives an excuse for wtc-7 to have fell.. but firefighters don't demolish buildings so his claim was bullshit.. he took out a claim on the towers specifically making sure "terroristic acts" were part of it. he then got 7 billion dollars for the towers. he was making money and the government was getting what they wanted.. it worked for both ends.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
As far as why he said "pull it". Why not? Why would he tell the firemen to "pull it"? That means the firemen would have to be in on it witch makes no sense. If that was the case, then he would be telling a demolition expert that he paid off to "pull it". It just does not make sense.
junito762004 2 months ago
@junito762004 It makes perfect sense once you realize they weren't talking about blowing up the building at all - they were talking about evacuating the firefighters. Pulling the operation.
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 Exactly!
junito762004 2 months ago
Because it does not make sense. He is an educated person and I'm sure he has common sense. Why would he implicate himself like that? On TV? Only people with no common sense do that. And in my opinion I think it goes way higher than Larry Silverstein. The video clearly shows that there were explosives. I just don't think he or the firemen had anything to do with it. They were clueless.
junito762004 2 months ago
"pull" and "collapse" right next to each other. Sounds more about demolition than fire to me.
From what I understand the WTC buildings were full of asbestos and needed tens of millions of dollars of upgrade... would have taken years to do with permits. All accomplished in one day. With a handsome profit on top of it!
sonaandwill 2 months ago
Please don't get me wrong. I for one believe it was deliberate. But... Silverstien's words were taken out of context here. What he was saying was to stop trying to put the fire out. That's what he meant by "pull it. Sometimes people see and hear what they want to hear.
junito762004 3 months ago
@junito762004 With all the more logical choices of words available to convey a desire to abandon efforts, why would a phrase like "pull it" which denotes destruction or death be used?
ThisPageStaysREAL 2 months ago
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@ThisPageStaysREAL Because it does not make sense. He is an educated person and I'm sure he has common sense. Why would he implicate himself like that? On TV? Only people with no common sense do that. And in my opinion I think it goes way higher than Larry Silverstein. The video clearly shows that there were explosives. I just don't think he or the firemen had anything to do with it. They were clueless.
junito762004 2 months ago
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@ThisPageStaysREAL As far as why he said "pull it". Why not? Why would he tell the firemen to "pull it"? That means the firemen would have to be in on it witch makes no sense. If that was the case, then he would be telling a demolition expert that he paid off to "pull it". It just does not make sense.
junito762004 2 months ago
pull pull pullpullulpull
EvilKnievel1980 3 months ago
Another possibility is that he is refering to the operatioin by the fire department. 'Pull it' in this context would mean pull the operation and get the firemen out. This interpretaiton is supported by many of the firemen involved in the operation. I have seen fire dept footage from the day where the firemen are discussing the order to withdraw (pull - their words, not mine) because the building is coming down. I don't know which story is right. I'm just saying BE TRULY SCEPTICAL.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
@djembeweaver Understand what you're saying but weren't the firemen "pulled out" of the building about 11.30 am? The building went down about 5pm.
HardcoreJungFunk 3 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk I don't know what time they were pulled out of the building but I know they were working close to the building all day. I've seen footage of the NYFD right next to the building, talking about how badly damaged it is and how the commanders are considering pulling it down. Since when do the fire dept blow up buildings? Like I said I don't know the truth any more than you do, but I consider these two explanations more plausible than a controlled demolition.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
@djembeweaver You are correct; the FDNY were on the grounds of 7 all afternoon performing search & rescue and preparing to re-enter the building when the "pull" order came down, at which time they withdrew.
Google "Nick Visconti Firehouse" to read FDNY Chief Visconti's account of the operation & withdrawal from bld 7.
TimReed22222 3 months ago
@TimReed22222 Thanks for that - I've never read that before. So either the fire dept were in on it, or this whole controlled demolition hypothesis is a big red herring. I know where my money is. Given that the Bush administration is probably culpuble in some less dramatic way (they certainly did have specific intelligence about an imminent attack at least a month before 911) I think this sort of thing distracts attention from the most important issues.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
@djembeweaver "either the fire dept were in on it, or this whole controlled demolition hypothesis is a big red herring."
Exactly! And few truthers are low enough to go THERE! Here some other things to consider:
Can building owners spontaneously order buildings demolished? No, they can not.
Do firefighter take orders from civilians? No, they do not.
Do firefighters perform demolitions? No, they do not.
Yet ALL of these things would have to be true for the truthers to have a case!
TimReed22222 3 months ago
@djembeweaver check out "WTC 7: The Smoking Gun of 9/11"
In the video there are men that I originally thought were firefighters, but realized after seeing the video again that they were not. They make a comment about "keep your eye on that building because it's about to come down." So firefighters were there doing their job fighting the fires, alongside some guys that knew about the building coming down. You don't wire a demolition in the middle of a fire, so this was organized ahead of time.
sonaandwill 2 months ago
Come on people - at least apply the same level of scepticism to all 911 theories. What he actually says is 'we made the decision to pull it'. Sure, you can take a short cut to actually thinking and just believe the conspiracy theory that 'pull' is a standard term used in controlled demolition.....or you can do some research yourself. I did and found that the term 'pull' is not used in this context. It refers to pulling a building over with cables. Many buildings were 'pulled' by cables on 911.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
@djembeweaver lmfao..That building was NOT pulled down by cables.lol..Thats a new one.
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djembeweaver 3 months ago
@koolbossjock I agree with you. It was not pulled down by cables. I was just pointing out that this has been used as one possible interpretation of Larry Silverstein's remark. By the way, it's not a new one - this one has been floating about for 10 years or so. My point was that you should be sceptical about every interpretation, and that involves a little research.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
@djembeweaver "pulled with cables"? ah ah ah you are so funny.by the way,if it was pulled with cables they would still be lying because they say it was caused by fire.larry "lucky" silverstein gained around 500 million from the wtc7 collapse.
ehi,i've got a bottle of water that i'm trying to sell for 500 dollars.are you interested?
geiuy 3 months ago
@geiuy I never said it was pulled down by cables; I said lots of building were. All I have done is present two alternative explanations and suggest that an equal amount of scepticism be applied to all three. You cannot call yourself a sceptic if you accept any argument at face value.
djembeweaver 3 months ago
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the passports are just part of the whole crappy false story.
Why should they survive when the black boxes and engines dont?
Out of all the incriminating evidence you could wish for passports are very high on the list and hey! presto! they turn up when the whole plane has vanished..#
Consumed in a massive crash and fireball. Those passports sure were fireproof.
zenoist2 3 months ago
911 was an OUTSIDE job!
ctcole77 3 months ago
I understand that some people believe in the official story and I don't fault them for that. However, those that believe in the official story that choose to insult those that don't. There is something seriously wrong with you. Who do you think you are? What makes you so damn sure that you were not lied to? So many unanswered questions, yet you decide to harass those of who want the TRUTH! Shame on you! Karma will someday bite you all in the ass! Good luck to all of you! Peace out!
Tricky1ish 3 months ago
Do a google search and you will find images of crews using cables to pull down building 7. As a demolitions phrase the term "pull it" refers to using cables to either pull down a building or to pull it away from another building.
jvidell 3 months ago
@jvidell Cables on WTC7!? LMAO, You are so wrong. Fucking moron, its hard to
keep my patience with you people. Search here on Youtube ''WTC7 Collapse''.
The 9 sec version, see any fucking cables!? Geezus, also watch the video I posted below.
NoNORADon911 3 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since demolition experts estimated it would take over 100 men 4-6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7, how come no one witnessed any strange construction activity, wires, or boxes?
What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
ctcole77 3 months ago
@ctcole77 Answer 1, A stock broker says there was numerous power cuts coupled with extensive building work and network wiring in the tower where he rented a floor. They also changed the security guard company before 9/11
Answer 2, dunno about this.
Answer 3, the day after 9/11 only two passports were found and immediately the news reported have these proved who two of the terrorists were. Even if you believe the official version you should chuck out this evidence.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
@ctcole77 Answer 3, continued. Whilst I still believed in the official version when I heard they knew who two of the terrorists were because they found their passports in the street I knew that bit was made up. OK, I thought, so they already had a lead on the terrorists, this BS about passports is just their way of telling us they are on the case and making progress. You see how I rationalized what I knew to be a lie? Why can't you do that instead of believing BS?
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
@jvidell Do that same google search and go back further through all the pages. When you get as far as say the 90's. You will see in many legal documents that the phrases "pull it", "pull up", "pull", etc.. Is used in all types of demolition. Whether it be from hydraulics, explosives, etc. Demolition is to demolish, doesn't matter which form, it still means the same. So for anyone to claim that "pull it" has nothing to do with controlled demolition or otherwise, it is clearly dishonest. j/s
Tricky1ish 3 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
ctcole77 3 months ago
@ctcole77 Answer 1, WTC7 collapse was unnatural and was not shown on TV. WTC 1 was more convincing because the fall started at the plane impact. It was shown more on TV but the most shown footage was the plane impact.
Answer 2, I expect the planes were automatically flown, not by hijackers.
Answer 3, Maybe we should just rule out confessions as inadmissible since Larry confessed that he did WTC7.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
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Why does N.I.S.T. REFUSE to this day to test for exotic accelerants in the most heinous crime in U.S. history? With the first high rise building collapses in history, why would N.I.S.T. NOT test for accelerants? Especially, with so many indicators, one in which we have lost so many lives, so many People, so many Freedoms, and our Economy. FIREFIGHTERSfor911TRUTH . ORG
NoNORADon911 3 months ago 3
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President Bush and Vice President Cheney refused to testify publicly under oath. They finally made a deal with the Commission to testify on April 29, 2004, with specific conditions:
o They would testify together,
o They would testify? behind closed doors,
o They would not be under oath, and
o Their testimony would not be recorded electronically or transcribed
>Yep nothing fishy about that lol<
NoNORADon911 3 months ago 3
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''Top 40 reasons to doubt the official story of 9-11-01''
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NoNORADon911 3 months ago 3
Why dont you idiots watch the UNEDITED video of Building 7 collapsing, and see how it collapsed progressively and did not free fall AT ALL.
Fucking idiots watching this edited videos. How ironic that it is YOU being lied to. It really is fascinating how thick you all are.
The UNEDITED version of the building 7 can be seen at ItWasTyped. com under the Building 7 post in the conspiracy theory section. Raging fires and all. The ENTIRE collapse, no editing bullshit.
Intelligent people welcome
culturebully3 3 months ago
@culturebully3 Lol enjoy your delusion. 911 was a inside job. Idiots & cowards step aside.
Government disinfo agents start packing your bags, you are now part of this cover up also
and will be dealt with accordingly. 2 planes don't collapse 3 skyscrapers like sandcastles, period.
NoNORADon911 3 months ago 2
@NoNORADon911 are you an expert on planes? buildings? demolitions? didn't think so.
Have a look at ItWasTyped. com kiddo. All I'm asking is that you read the conspiracy theory posts. Once you've read them and understood them, let's see what your response is.
Time to grow up son. Your first step is understand WHY you want to believe in this inside job nonsense. Looking for someone to blame for the world's (and your) problems, perhaps?
ItWasTyped. com
culturebully3 3 months ago
@culturebully3 Hey fuck you. I am not your ''kiddo'' nor you ''son''.
That website you pimp is shit lol. Keep watching FOX news & sucking Gov cheese dick lol
Oh you want a real website? Over 1,600 verified Architects & Engineers KNOW
911 was a inside job @ AE911TRUTH . ORG
NoNORADon911 3 months ago 2
@NoNORADon911 and there are 1600 other architects & engineers saying the opposite. Let me guess: they are on the "inside". Ha! You consp. theorists really do get more pathetic and desperate as time goes on! You say that website is shit but did you actually read any of the posts under the conspiracy theory section? What is your response to them? Because all you do is say its shit, but you dont address the fact that it debunks everything you believe! LOL. ItWasTyped. com .. educate yourself kid
culturebully3 3 months ago
@culturebully3 Oh really? ''there are 1600 other architects & engineers saying the opposite''
Please share that info to back up your bullshit LOL. Say hi to Lucky Larry as you lick his old wrinkled asshole lol
NoNORADon911 3 months ago
@NoNORADon911 ItWasTyped. com under the 'conspiracy theory' section. Quit getting mad and just look into the reasons why you are wrong. Can you answer the questions posed by that site? Where were the Iraqis on 9/11? Why do conspiracy theorists ignore the footage that proves them wrong? why do they omit the parts of videos that disprove what they believe?
because theyre full of shit, and they know it. Idiots like you keep alex jones paid. say hi to him as you lick his old wrinkled asshole. haha!
culturebully3 3 months ago
@culturebully3 I have read the 19 characteristics of a conspiracy theorist. All very cute really. Quite well observed from the point of view of an official versionist. But it observes things as if they are faults with the Conspiracy Theorist. Believing 9/11 was an inside job is seen as a fault. Not believing jet planes could bring down the twin towers when we have seen that they can. That simply shows your fault of accepting the official version as proof unto itself.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
@culturebully3 The 19 characteristics clearly show the failings of people who don't question the official version. Point 16, in ability to tell good evidence from bad. We have people who believe that terrorist passports were found in the rubble and that these were critical in ID'ing the terrorists. Which ever side you agree with that particular evidence should not be believed. If you believe in the found passports then you have no credibility.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1600+ architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?
Who was Ali Mohamed and what is his relationship with Osama Bin Laden and the CIA?
ctcole77 3 months ago
4th so called high-jack air craft that cashed was meant to hit wtc Building number 7.
ddamos00 4 months ago
The decision to pull??? What the hell does that mean? "Go ahead and blow up the building with prepositioned explosive. total lies and an inside job. Every soldier who died in these two wars died as a result of lies.
alderete74 4 months ago
@alderete74 Are you saying the fire department blew up bld 7?
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 NO....but somebody/organization did. That building was wired to blow weeks before. The fire was just a convenient poorly orchestrated cover. That fact that the corporate media did not question this implicates them in the cover up and overall 911 operation.
alderete74 4 months ago
@alderete74 But wait - one thing we can agree on here is that it was the FIREFIGHTERS who made the decision to pull. Not Silverstein. The FIREFIGHTERS. Both Silverstein and the FDNY chief agree on this.
So if you think "pull" means "blow up the building with prepositioned explosive" then you think the FDNY was involved in the demolition of building 7; there is no other conclusion.
So what do you think was the FDNY's involvement?
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 hahahahaahah... to pull a building is not easy.. takes weeks of preparing explosive devices... but one thing is forshure... that it wasnt done by the terorrists with boxcutters
zelenko2 4 months ago
@zelenko2 Thanks but you haven't answered the question on the table:
What was the fire department's involvement?
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 none...
zelenko2 4 months ago
@zelenko2 None, huh? So the FDNY did *not* blow up the building. Okay, I agree.
But it was the FIRE DEPARTMENT Larry was speaking to when he said "they made that decision to pull" ... and the FDNY *chief* claimed responsibility for giving the "pull" order (and dozens of veteran FDNY officers & firefighters concur.)
SO ... I guess there is only one logical conclusion: When they said "pull" here were talking about EVACUATING, not demolishing.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 dunno man.. i wasnt in larrys CD group... all i know is that 911 was inside job and there was demolition in newyork...
zelenko2 4 months ago
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@zelenko2 And all *I* know is you guys have ZERO evidence against Silverstein. NOTHING.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 pull the building i belive he said... :)
zelenko2 4 months ago
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@zelenko2 Then I suggest you check it again, because you are WRONG.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
I would not have paid this idiot a dime. I would have insisted on having our own investigation and dragged it out long after Larry was dead and buried. If at any point in the investigation, we found the potential of being an inside job he would get nothing.
Argibon 4 months ago
ALL FOUR(4) CORNERS OF BUILDING 7 LOOSE ALL SUPPORT AT THE SAME TIME, AND THE WHOLE BUILDING GOES INTO FREE-FALL = CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! ...9/11 = 100% INSIDE JOB and a COVERUP
Born2Flesh 4 months ago
@Born2Flesh I wouldn't say that this evidence of a 100% 9/11 coverup. I think that this is evidence that there was a lack of communication between the various people involved in this operation. Once some people started denying that WTC7 fell by CD, perhaps others started thinking that if they admit to one CD operation that people may start questioning whether other WTC buildings were also CD'ed. Maybe in order to keep people from freaking out about a govt. coverup, they decided on a coverup.
MattFoleyMotivation 4 months ago
silverstein is a murderer
bkfilipi 4 months ago
larry silverstein should be tried for treason and crimes against humanity
bkfilipi 4 months ago
Those buildings should of been thoroughly tested to see how they fell down. You can see in some photos the main columns were cut at 45 degree angle. The cutter charges cut them and they are at the bottom. The evidence is right there. Who knows about Silverstein. He didn't pull off 9/11 he just leased the buildings the mossad agents might have approached him. If citizens controlled this country we would not have Mossad agents roaming around either.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
Pull the men out? Since when does he decide? He didn't own the buildings. He can say you guys might want to pull your men for what reason? How did tower seven catch on firel These towers are made of steel and if they catch on fire you put it out. These buildings have millions of tons of steel. You need to go look at the size of the columns they use. I'm sure there are Grand mothers who have never seen any steel who might believe they just fell down, but I've built steel buildings and I know
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
So you believe he was involved in the planning of the biggest conspiracy in history. At least 1000 people have kept quiet about it. There is not a shred of evidence or one witness of the explosions. He is that brilliant! Then he just goes on TV and lets the cat out of the back stating he demolished the building. Now all of you pick up on this but the insurance company clearly missed it as they paid out in full. Next stupid theory please!
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 They paid out because they were told to pay out. WHen have you ever heard of the insurance company say shit? Have they said anything about having to pay for the Murrah building in Oklahoma the BATF blew up? Insurance companies are loaded. Silverstein could have cut a deal with the person who owns the company and gave him some of the billions. That's not hard to figure out. THE FBI blew up the trade towers in 1993. DID the insurance companies say anything then?
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - What utter nonsense. Do you have one shred of evidence for any of that? Insurance companies do not survive by just giving away money. 7
Every country on earth has terrorism it is only Americans that are so arrogant that they cannot accept that it happened to them too.
Want to explain how, what you are stating is the greatest terror genius in history when on TV and accidentally admitted the demolition of building 7? Genius one minute idiot next?
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 You just said it. He said he pulled tower 7 but is he in jail? Insurance companies invest money and where $2,000,000 is a lot of money to us is peanuts to them. I don't know exactly how it works, but SIlverstein might have gotten the money installments, but if he got all the money and he's made interest off the money since 9/11 he's done well. He's just a cunning Jew and he leased the towers and the Mossad pulled it off. The towers would have had the asbestos removed
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - To paraphrase the conversation - he says he told the fire chief that they had already had such terrible loss of life that day that he should pull his men out of the building. The fire chief pulled his men out and they later saw the building collapse. Pull does not mean demolish.
You are claiming he just came out and admitted blowing up the building after the most elaborate conspiracy in history. Why would he do that? Sorry it is absurd. And your Jew comment was just racist.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 And your claiming he said something when he didnt. What Larry said was 'we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it and they made that decision to pull', it, refers to an onject, if he was on about firefighters he would of said 'pull them', would you describe a group of people as 'it'? Why would he do it? Well he did get them insured for a 99 year lease, 7 weeks before (conveiniently) so one presumes he got one heck of a payout!
westlifesbabygirl17 3 months ago
@westlifesbabygirl17 - An operation is an "it". eg Did you continue with the hike despite the bad weather? No we decided to pull it.
You're suggesting these people pulled off the biggest conspiracy in history including faking phone calls from planes and attaching explosives etc etc without leaving a shred of evidence and then DUH! he goes on T.V. and accidentally lets slip he demolished the building. Then the insurance company just paid out a billion anyway. Nonsense!
WillShakespeare2007 3 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 An operation...like a CD, exactly. No evidence..well you could easily turn that around and say that there is also no evidence that they collapsed due to fire alone too. Although some might call a passport falling from the sky, avoiding any fire to land perfectly on the ground some sort of evidence, people burnt, planes burnt, buildings burnt, passport didnt, miracle eh? B7 was completely omitted from the official report, why?Cant you see theres loads of questions unanswered?
westlifesbabygirl17 3 months ago
@westlifesbabygirl17 there are plenty of places that have answers to your questions, you just don't look for them properly.
Try the conspiracy theory tab at ItWasTyped. com .. there's even an entire post specifically about Building 7, including UNEDITED footage of the building collapse. Believe it or not, you 'truthers' have been watching EDITED footage, created by morons like Alex Jones who need you to believe in this inside job nonsense.
culturebully3 3 months ago
@culturebully3 I dont believe anything anyone tells me, i simply look at the hundreds of unanswered question that still remain after that ridiculous 9/11 commision report. You people choose to believe whatever crap the Govt come out with and completely ignore the questions they also ignore. 3 buildings collapse due to fire in one day when it has never happened in history before, that is suspicious enough. Then we come to the Pentagon which, to any sane person, draws its own conclusion.
westlifesbabygirl17 3 months ago
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@westlifesbabygirl17 *sigh* that's what I'm telling you, there ARE answers to your questions. Visit ItWasTyped. com and look under the 'conspiracy theory' section. It deals with everything with logic, facts and common sense.
Nobody is saying that the government/media lie to us, to an extent. But it's important to separate the lies from the paranoid horror stories. ItWasTyped. com is a good place to start
culturebully3 3 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 That insurance company paid this Jew 3,5 billion. But they get tax breaks for paying out lots of money. Maybe they paid the money in installments. But that much money might be a drop in the bucket to that company. Something stinks though I mean would you pay out the money? I've seen people who have been hurt and the insurance companies held out. They finally paid out $50,000 after ten years. What did they hand this Jew 3.5 billion in a few weeks?
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
You haven't seen any of the videos they show you the explosives going off? You haven't heard any testimony of people who heard bombs going off? WHen you're in a building and bombs are going off. You know what it is. I can't believe it's been ten years and people haven't seem the evidence. Forget the arguing. I solved the JFK assassination by looking at the videos. The mooonlandings were fake and the videos prove it. 9/11 is such a blatant crime played out right before our eyes;
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - I don't like so many post so I will leave a short response to each. There are no videos of "explosives going off". You say people say they 2heard" bombs going off? Interesting no one say them isn't it. They heard secondary explosions and assumed they heard bombs. How many of these people have heard bombs before and so offer expert testimony?
The moon landings were not fake - don't be silly.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 The smoke blowing out 150' from the buildings is the cutter charges. They have a protective blanket and you xan even see the flashes in some, but the way they fell down makes no sense. Because at the very most if it was posible that all the steel on one floor did completely melt the whole steel got orange the most if would have done is slowly settled some on the next floor. The fire wouldn't weaken the steel all the way donw. Ask any engineer what would happen if you
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
had 10,000 people with cutting touches turned up not to cut the steel but turned way up to heat the steel maybe 3,500 degrees which was way on hotter than the fire got. But ask them if that many people had torches and were heating the steel all over every inch to orange hot what would happen? At the most the steel would just settle down on the floor below it. The steel wouldn't let got like the steel turned to molten lava and then hit the next floor and every floor below it just let go instantly
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
I mean if it was possible and the plane hit at the lower floors and it was posible the steel got orange hot and weakened then the whole thing could have fallen over. But tryign to say yes those buildings would have turned to dust and all the rivets let go, then you better go see a high rise when they are building them and look at the tgick steel and you'll realize it's not possible. I've built apartments 10 stories and I know. I know how much heat it takes. I know that they couldn't have fallen
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 How much do you get paid to lie for the Zionist Jews on Jewtube?
Sambuca6178 4 months ago
@Sambuca6178 - How paranoid are you? So anyone that disagrees with you is a government agent? You have to be kidding me. Hey maybe I am also paid by NASA to claim the moon landings are real and by the Beatles to say Paul McCartney is not dead. The difference between you and me is I apply logical thinking, consider the evidence from both sides of the argument and then make up my mind. You however are blinded by hatred, believe any conspiracy you hear about and do not require evidence.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago 2
The government always are involved. The government murdered those people in Waco and we saw that. The government was involved in the 1993 trade tower bombings and they blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma city. 9/11 is an inside job. FBI and CIA agents made millions shorting stocks prior to 9/11. An FBI agent makes millions shorting stocks, but Martha Stewart goes to jail because someone told her something and she sell her own stock. The FBI should be abolished right along withe the CIA.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - You have not evidence of any of this.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
FIrst I suggest you start looking at the videos. There is one you can see the wing vanish which proves it was a hologram and not a plane. There are many videos that show the bombs going off. Let's say those fires could burn hot enough and the steel became white hot; Wouldn't that floor have just settled onto the next floor? That is if it could have heated every single rivet and then the steel main columns. Habe you seen how thick that steel is? Even if all the steel was heated 2,000 degrees
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - HOLOGRAM? You think the planes were holograms? - Your an idiot! I'm not wasting any more time on you.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 This is the first time you've heard of this? There is one clear video you can see the wing suddenly vanish, because the smoke screen blocked the object. If this is the first you've heard of this you need to crawl back under your rock. You haven't looked at shit coming in here harassing people. Those gray looking planes did you see any windowsl DId you see the videos that showed you it had a pod underneathll Plus on both planws you can see a flash just before the planes hit
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@tubeyou9878 - No it is not the first time I have heard of it but those that believe this are total idiots. Even the truth movement thinks anyone that believes this is an idiot. I just had a truther on another video trying to convince me that anyone that believes the hologram idea is a government shill trying to discredit the truth movement. I find it almost impossible to believe anyone could be such an idiot but there you are - holograms - what a fucking idiot. No time for morons sorry.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 I'm going to make a hologram look ike a penis and then you'll bend over, but it will be a grenade. You're talking about the federal government. They have access to technology we won't see for 20 years.
Most people will only realize if someone took a real 757 and slam it into a building and then you would see the wings fall off and 5,000 gallons of kerosene flowing down the building all on fire That's a lot of kerosene. If the videos don'y show you, then I can't do it.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
Did the insurance companies bulk at pying out the Oklahoma City bombing? They are a rip off to begin with. If those insurance companies were smart they would have demanded an investigation. I've had claims for $800 and they send an insurance adjuster around. What happened there they paid out 3.5 billion without hesitation. If they owed you that much you would be ten years getting the money so theh couls make interest.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
would not cause the steel to fail. So that should tell anyone it was bombs. Engineers know this. They all know it was bombs. They would try to sell to you the Arabs placed bombs in the buildings, but they know you wouldn't buy that. BUt to believe those buildings could just fall down like that need to go look at a high rise they are building somewhere. Look at the thick steel and look at the millions of bolts. THen you would realize there is no way those buildings fell down> they were dynamited,
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
@SpiritOfKennedy WRONG.
The debris was MOVED to New Jersey & Staten Island, where it was examined. For MONTHS. And they saved hundreds of pieces. watch?v=35zZeNcIAZ8
And how did all that debris get off Manhattan, anyway? Answer: It was picked over, by hand, by HUNDREDS of firefighters, demolitions experts & other rescue workers. For seven months.
No evidence of bombs found.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
bombs were in building 7 prior to 9/11. it doesnt take a few hours to plant bombs in a building to implode, especially the size of building 7.
quez76 4 months ago
@quez76 "bombs were in building 7 prior to 9/11."
No there weren't. ZERO evidence of explosives were found in the wreckage of 7. No residue, no detonators, no det cord - NOTHING.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 ok, how did the building fall down then?
quez76 4 months ago