I love this song. This is one of those songs that i grew up with and remembered the tune and the feeling of the song but for the life of me i could never remember the name of either the artist or the song.
hear hear to shortax for the thing about the stones, all their best songs you'll find are covers or rip-offs, also jagger and richards are uk taxdodgers (dunno about the rest & Charlie Watts is the only decent and humble one)
So The Rolling Stones rip this off and then sue The Verve for millions and The Staples Singers get nothing?? Staples Singers have money waiting for them in the courts if they chose to sue Allen Klien
@InfinityNebula the stones used this (a traditional i may add) as inspiration. no different then the beatles come together / chuck berry's you can't catch me. inspiration is different then copying. the verse sampled (literally copied the recording) of the stones, and lost. should've written their own part. also i'll add, the stones song 'anybody seen my baby' from 1997 had a bit of a kd lang song, so she got a writers credit. maybe if the verve should've given them writer credit
@davidturner9823 No the Stones nicked the arrangement from the Staple Singers too. They just ramped up the tempo and added a grooving bass line which wasn't present in the original.
The Verve actually secured rights to sample a orchestral cover of this song. Unfortunately, they were not careful enough in their dealings with Klein/ABKCO who claimed they sampled 2 more notes than what was agreed only after the song became a hit.
Jagger/Richards wrote not a single note of either song.
I'm so glad somebody put this on here...all of their music reminds me of my Grandmother...God rest her soul. I miss her so much and love her so much but I know she is in a better place and no longer suffering!
The song is only "traditional" (public domain, not copyrighted) because the person/people who wrote it didn't have access to copyright protection when they wrote it. And as for the comment "sharing/taking is how music works," consider that ABKCO, the publisher that owns much of the Rolling Stones' catalog (but not controlled by the Stones themselves) is known to take an extremely hard line on samples and other uses of Stones songs.
i love how everyone is like "so and so took from so and so" well, thats kind of how music works. they're all sharing styles, and rather than thinking they "took it" they should be viewing it as the band has appreciated this style of music and art form and they're honoring them in a way. All music takes from others in time, its a generational step. It's like old stories being told by voice, and then by another and another, they add on to it because they love it. You don't have to like everything.
Last Time, Maybe The Last Time, This May Be The Last Time...Confusing Titles to at least three DIFFERENT songs. There's the traditional song by the Staple Singers, The Blind Boys of Alabama, and others. There's the Rock song, 'Last Time' by the Stones. There's the Soul/Blues song by James Brown and also Otis Rush. Different songs people...Not the first time different songs shared the same or similar titles....All three are great songs,...especially Otis Rush's 'Maybe The Last Time'
Can't believe that this gave genesis to 'Ridin' Solo', which is one of the shittiest songs of all time. The Stones took from this to make the Last Time, after which Andrew Oldham made a symphonic version of it. Then in 1997, the Verve decided to sample the symphonic version of the Last Time in order to make Bittersweet Symphony. And in turn, Jason Derulo sample Bittersweet Symphony in order to make Ridin' Solo. Good music, what happened to you?
@oneUNITED7SS yea but the shit thing is that the rolling stones got all the royalties to bittersweet symphony because it used their song the last time, which isnt actually their song, according to this post
@devantecooley It's not similar at all. Brian Jones's riff, the sound, the melody. I like the Staples version but it bares more similarity to the Exile period.
Oh my sweet Lord, this is one of the most awesome, haunting, surreal sounding spirituals I have ever heard. It is dripping with the blood, sweat, and tears of the south.
My God, this song is SO haunting, so eerie....I hear this and instantly I'm back home in rural NC, walking through the peanut fields. Little wooden Southern Black church sitting in the distance.....yet I hear, also, a sense of foreboding all up and through this song.
What a shame nobody here can even discuss how great this song is...who cares about the stupid Stones/Verve/whatever???
@CheekyMulattress Well, you have to admit, The Rolling Stones, The Andrew Oldham Orchestra, The Verve, and now Jason Derulo have all made their mark on this song. Not everybody likes each version, but this song has such a rich history now because it keeps appearing in different forms in popular culture. And even though this is a beautiful incarnation of the song, half the beauty of it is how it evolved over the last 55 years. Not every song can boast that.
@CheekyMulattress I can discuss it!!!!! I love this song and play it a couple of times a week to keep my soul stirred up !!!!
I only wish it were longer- I cry every time I hear it not because it makes me sad but because I feel the "other side" calling and I can't stand the strain, but I can't resist it either, does that make any sense? p60
Bugsy, The Stones wrote a completely new song with that one line, the words in the refrain (not the music) as the main lyrical hook. The musical hook is the riff written and played by Brian Jones. Today Jones would have been credited but not the Staple Singers. The Verve sampled and copied and recorded the orchestral version of the Last time, released in 1966(?). The copied it note for note, changed the instrumentation on some parts.
@sakalan Yes, but I can argue (and I will) that The Verve's sample was a lot more effective, iconic, and just plain enjoyable than The Rolling Stones' original. But that, of course, is opinion: I'm just not a Stones fan.
My Great grandmother wrote over 300 spirituals that are published in millions of hymnal books. these songs are sang in churches everyday. The company that published her songs never gave her a dime. Ida Reed (my G-Grandmother) died a slow painful death in poverty. The stealing of copywritten material for proffit is something that angers me to no end. Punlishing companies have ripped off artists for a century. IT"S RETRIBUTION TIME
I would hope the Staple Singers sue Jagger/Richards like ThePirateBay has been sued. Or even better, get rid of stupid copyright laws. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants and the music business is built by beggars and thieves, everybody steals/loans from eveyone else.
it angers me like it does you, but at the end of the dya, the staple singers are christians, "true" chirstians....in other words, they are not worrying about money....you do it for the love of god and you will be rewarded in the end by god.
god is good all the time, all the time, god is good. : )
The Stones didn't steal nor "plagiarise" this song. It wasn't written by the Staples Singers, it's a 150+ year old traditional tune and is "public domain". The stones took the last line of the chorus & the name & wrote a whole new melody & lyrics for the remaining 95% of it. There's nothing at all wrong with that.
@RobMackenzie exactly...rappers today steal shit from everyones elses music...look at "Let's Go" by Lil Jon, they stole that from "Crazy Train" by Ozzy
And white musicians and white producers have stolen Black music, Black culture (and even Black people in the transatlantic slave trade)for quite some time now, LONG before rap music even came on ths scene. Don't get me started.
@chj2 ok the next time u hear a heavy metal song stolen from black music tell me cuz last time i checked that was his own written material...dont get me started
@mtwallet yes interesting :) that's how it should be & often is when someone re-arranges a trad. tune (such as what we're hearing here). & the last line of the stones tune is their arrangement of this trad. tune. But all the rest of the Stones "Last Time" is their own original composition (not to mention Brian Jones original guitar hook) & it has nothing musically or lyrically in common with the trad. tune, so to credit the whole stones number as just a re-arrangement seems a bit unfair to them
Maybe, but where did the Stones get THEIR NAME? From a 1950s Muddy Waters song called, "Rolling Stone" . WHITE singers have been sampling Black music and musicians long before rappers even came on the scene: took West African Banjo music called it Country and Western, Took the Blues and called it Rock and Roll, and several other historical examples. Don't even get me started on the countless times this has and STILL happens - including the Isley Bros. suing Michael Bolton for stealing a song.
The Stones were heavily influenced by this song, but it was not the intention for a direct rip off, more than likely they felt something in this music that wasn't present in a lot of the "whiter" music available during that time period
Start from the Staple Singers- This maybe my last time to Rolling Stones -The Last Time TO todays Bittersweet Symphony sung by Richard Ashcroft of the Verve :D COOL AINT IT.
Wow, The Stones rip off black music yet again. If you don't recognize how much of a rip off this is then you're deaf or just in denial. Jagger himself has said he ripped off this song.
Given that this a traditional song, they did use black music (apu) but there was no plagiarizing since there is no known author to rip off. Traditional spirituals don't have copyrights. Too bad because whoever had that copyright would be sitting on a mint.
The Stones only used ONE line from the song, which doesn't even remotely compare to the Stones song with the same name. There is no theft here or anything of the kind.
Holy crap i haven't heard this in a long time, and i'm a verve fan too. what makes this interesting is that Oldham, and Klein don't really suprise me about who influenced them, old blue and made it there own, however without giving proper credit or payment to those they "borrowed" from.
I know the stones sued for writers credit which is understandable but Kline should pay his share to those he stole from. Oldham's arrangement was his own, the hook stuck. but Kline holy crap man....
You are not the first to ask that. What is the difference? Would you please direct me to something with distinct reverb so I can see if my ears can tell? Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
What an interesting debacle. The Stones record a new version of an old spiritual and it becomes a Rock hit in the sixties. Andrew Oldham records an orchestral version of the Stones version. The Verve use Oldham's, (the now third version of the song). Oldham gets pissed and Allen Klein who owns the Stones catalogue sues them for 100% of all royalties?. Mama Mia Batman!
what's even more strange is that this song was around possibly 150 years b4 the staple singers did it,
the song is a traditional spritual.
wich means the rights are public domain.
however, as in with the use of classical music only the performance can be copywritten material... so I'm confused how Jagger and Richards were awarded any money...?
@bugsycline Because the Stones and mostly Brian Jones who wrote the riff, recorded a new different rock song with that one line about last time. The Stones wrote an original. The Verve copied AOLs version of the Stones song.
stones stole the whole chorus of the song. That's enough for the law to stand up in court. Pop's staples's people should sue Jagger Richards. and the estate of Allen Kline.
Were not talking about one measure of music or a few beats here, it's a WHOLE CHORUS!
Theft. Plain and Simple. There's not a judge in America that would disagree. Just listen!
@bugsycline Agreed! I find it stunning that the Stones could sue the Verve when Bittersweet Symphony sounds NOTHING like The Last Time but the Staples can't sue the Stones for Jagger's and Richards blatant plagiarism. If the Stones had a case, then the Staples have one hell of a case in my opinion. Klein, Richards and Jagger are pots calling the kettle black. Honestly, they should just give the Verve back the money rightly owed them and while they are at it, pay the Staples too.
"This May be the last time, I don't know." One line. The Stones chords sound nothing like this slow gospel song. Nothing actionable, which is why the Staples haven't made one move in almost fifty years.
Are you that stupid? You actually count the number of times a single line is said as multiple lyrics? And the slow vibrato here sounds like the Stones sharp circular riff? Yes, no wonder the entertainment attorneys haven't received a call from the Staples. Some evidence.
@steveconn Yes you moron, that is EXACTLY what you do, or rather what attorneys do (God knows what you do). Look up previous copyright infringement cases such as "My Sweet Lord / He's So Fine". The Stones entire chorus, the chords and lyrics, are lifted from this. As for why the Staples don't sue, have you ever heard of Statute of Limitations?? Well they exist for cases like this, it is likely not worth the time and attorney fee's to sue 45 years after the fact. Please educate yourself.
So the Staples were somehow gagged from suing all while the Statute of Limitations didn't apply? And Your ears are so bad that Harrison's straight lift of melody and tempo of He's So Fine is anywhere close to the distant relationship between the Stones Last Time and the Staple's version? Get into stand-up. You're absolutely hilarious.
(A circular guitar riff in a different key sounding like a molasses-slow gospel song LMAO).
@steveconn The lyrics of the chorus of both songs are the same. The clincher being the end '......maybe the last time, I don't know" with the chord dropping a perfect 4th in both songs on the word "know" and the singer dropping a minor second at exactly the same time in the same rhythm. The timbre of the passage may differ between gospel, pop, rock, metal, grunge, etc. etc. but the fact is the Stones used this chorus. How can you possibly argue it when even Richards admits it?
@steveconn Wow! You are a fool, you defeat yourself with your own argument. If the chorus (and chord progrssion AND melody) lifted by Richards from this song only get to be counted one time then so does the endlessly looped sample in Bittersweet Symphony. The strings, the bells, the melody still only = one time. You still lose. Not to mention the fact that Bittersweet Symphony in no way resembles the Stones version of The Last Time.
I never said chord progression and melody; you're desperately trying to put words in my mouth to save your drowning case. However, the melody of Bittersweet IS that of Stones' Last Time (albeit in orchestral form); just ask Ashcroft as his agent sends ABKCO their monthly check. See ya!
@steveconn No the melody is not the same. Figure it out on your piano or guitar. They are diffrent notes and different melodies. If you have trouble transcribing it let me know as I have already done this. Neither the strings nor the bells in Oldham version follow the melody or the rhythm of the stones version. I have transcribed it, you do the same. If they are the same, tell which notes in which measure match up between the Stones and Oldham's version. If you can. :) Cya
@steveconn Doesn't matter what the chords "sound like" but what they are. You can add distortion, chorus, and flange to the opening riff of "Satisfaction" but that doesn't change the fact that it is being stolen. Look bud, even Richards has admitted that this song was inspirational to him but fel that it was okay as this song dates way back and is thus traditional. You are so lost in this argument, go die in a fire :)
@steveconn Wrong, they sampled Oldham's version, AND WITH PERMISSION. For a 50/50 split! Klein wanted 100. The Stones totally lifted this chorus, deal with it.
But to my knowledge it was actually the Rolling Stones publishers that sued, then sold the song to Nike (the one with the sample of the instrumental version of this song).
Either way Jagger and Richards got all writing credits. Just like they did so many other songs they didn't write.
@steveconn Oh and BTW, i wasn't saying that YOU said chord progression and melody. I stated chord progression and melody a few posts down (Perfect 4th down and a semitone drop in the melody, remember?). Try to keep up if you can. As for drowning case, you are the one down pal. Your only defense is "Well the courts say so". Missing the point, that is what everyone (but you) are saying is wrong. Moriluk is right, you are a twit. Now figure the notes like I said before and prove me wrong
Yawn, like I said, prove it in a court of law. Or sneak tbe checks away from ABCKCO, otherwise, been fun watching you chase your tail, but now a bit boring. Bye.
@steveconn I'll take that as "I can't figure out the notes or the melody so therefore I can't back up any of my claims." Yes, always call "prove it in court" or "fight ABCKCO", anything to take the focus of your failed argument. Either logically defend your argument or shut your moronic facehole. Been fun watching you flounder and make a fool of yourself. No go figure out the music and state exactly where YOU find the similarities. Otherwise, yawn.
@steveconn You are clearly stupider than you look. And you look retarded.
Sorry everybody. This is a great song. Even as I listen to this I think to this original argument, that Jagger and Richards wrote this song. They didn't. This is a very old song. It has fallen into place with the heart of the current "intellectual property" laws. Shame.
@steveconn Don't play the "Poor me card" now, after all you were the one calling me stupid first, I simply reacted and pointed out to you and to others reading your dissinformation that you are a tone deaf hack, who needs to learn how to tune his guitar and buy some rogaine.
what's the matter, can you dish it out, but not take it?
@steveconn Wow. I don't even know what to say. You are one of the stupidest people I have ever come across on the tubes. You seem to pretend you haven't lost any argument here. And you slew insults all over. Then cry when someone does it to you. Please go become an hero. I am done here.
@bugsycline No I got it. The lyrics are from a traditional negro spiritual. But I think the writing credit is for the music since Bittersweet Symphony has it's own lyrics. Unless I'm ill informed.
@bugsycline people with a to nof money can make just about anything happen, this is my one problem with a capitalist system, the best law money can buy.
There would be a bittersweet irony here if the reformed Verve should cover this. Interesting 'lawyer shit' to quote Keith Richards - if they get sued by the Rolling Stones management once more!
Well, if the Stones took the chorus of this song, it wouldnt be the first time a song has been "sampled"... people do that nowadays and no one complains as long as the proper people are compensated... BTW, what the heck is it supposed to say backwards? I dont have the 3equipment to do that.
I heard this is a public domain song. No one knows who wrote this version. Yes, the Stones stole the chorus and gave themselves songwriting credit for the song, which for most part other than the chorus, they wrote. Someone told me their is no songwriting credit for this original version. Can anyone one here confirm that?
Granted, The Verve should have had sense to either clear the sample or record their own string loop, but that suit was a huge low-class maneuver by Klein. It helped tear down a band that was really pursuing the muse and making interesting, emotional work that somehow managed to work in the general market. I feel I was robbed of some great music that the band didn't make after they disintegrated. Forth was released Forth this year to little attention, but I'm glad they took another swing.
The stones robbed this song, it was covered by the Oldham orchestra with the violin part of bittersweet... in it. The verve pays out royalties for the right to play it
the stones did not sue the verve, allen klein did.he owns all stones from come on (the first single) to brown sugar.and will do anything for money like letting pepsi and mars use brown sugar and satisfaction.also the verse of bittersweet sounds like a slowed down version of the last times verse (which is the part mick wrote),(the notes are the same)not the chorus which is the part of the stones last time that sounds like the staple singers.
this is a nice version!
10skylark 13 hours ago
I love this song. This is one of those songs that i grew up with and remembered the tune and the feeling of the song but for the life of me i could never remember the name of either the artist or the song.
Tinymoezzy 1 week ago
hear hear to shortax for the thing about the stones, all their best songs you'll find are covers or rip-offs, also jagger and richards are uk taxdodgers (dunno about the rest & Charlie Watts is the only decent and humble one)
vienteflora 3 weeks ago
@vienteflora nice bias
davidturner9823 1 week ago
There is all of one line in the lyrics that is the same as The Stone's version.The music is absolutely nothing alike.
blazinbleezies 2 months ago
@blazinbleezies It is as much alike as Oldham's version is to the Stones.
GwaiiEagle1 1 month ago
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InfinityNebula 3 months ago
So The Rolling Stones rip this off and then sue The Verve for millions and The Staples Singers get nothing?? Staples Singers have money waiting for them in the courts if they chose to sue Allen Klien
InfinityNebula 3 months ago
@InfinityNebula the stones used this (a traditional i may add) as inspiration. no different then the beatles come together / chuck berry's you can't catch me. inspiration is different then copying. the verse sampled (literally copied the recording) of the stones, and lost. should've written their own part. also i'll add, the stones song 'anybody seen my baby' from 1997 had a bit of a kd lang song, so she got a writers credit. maybe if the verve should've given them writer credit
davidturner9823 1 week ago
@davidturner9823 No the Stones nicked the arrangement from the Staple Singers too. They just ramped up the tempo and added a grooving bass line which wasn't present in the original.
The Verve actually secured rights to sample a orchestral cover of this song. Unfortunately, they were not careful enough in their dealings with Klein/ABKCO who claimed they sampled 2 more notes than what was agreed only after the song became a hit.
Jagger/Richards wrote not a single note of either song.
JayeK47 2 days ago
There are as of this time 5 different live performances on YT of James Brown's Maybe The Last Time.
strandwolf 3 months ago
beautiful beautiful song!
petermccabe10 4 months ago
Such a blessin! 50 plus years I have been listenin to the Staples and Pop these God sent creatures are one of a kind... juici29
juici29 4 months ago
I'm so glad somebody put this on here...all of their music reminds me of my Grandmother...God rest her soul. I miss her so much and love her so much but I know she is in a better place and no longer suffering!
SuperBravo69 5 months ago
wish they were still around to come to my church,......
mudmarine0311 5 months ago
The song is only "traditional" (public domain, not copyrighted) because the person/people who wrote it didn't have access to copyright protection when they wrote it. And as for the comment "sharing/taking is how music works," consider that ABKCO, the publisher that owns much of the Rolling Stones' catalog (but not controlled by the Stones themselves) is known to take an extremely hard line on samples and other uses of Stones songs.
ThomsonGA2010 6 months ago
i love how everyone is like "so and so took from so and so" well, thats kind of how music works. they're all sharing styles, and rather than thinking they "took it" they should be viewing it as the band has appreciated this style of music and art form and they're honoring them in a way. All music takes from others in time, its a generational step. It's like old stories being told by voice, and then by another and another, they add on to it because they love it. You don't have to like everything.
FoxD89 8 months ago 2
simply the best ever heard
moy468 8 months ago
Absolutely fantastic. Is there any sound with more ambiance than American black gospel?
punxy53 9 months ago 2
Eerie yes, atmospheric certainly. Tks for the posting.
beowulf3075 9 months ago
oh man this is so good
apsdh340 9 months ago
OH MY GOD THIS IS SO GOOD I HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS!!!!
rebelsoftheneongod 10 months ago 11
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ME TOO!
TheNella1961 9 months ago
@rebelsoftheneongod
I KNOW, RIGHT!?!
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quad155 1 year ago
Last Time, Maybe The Last Time, This May Be The Last Time...Confusing Titles to at least three DIFFERENT songs. There's the traditional song by the Staple Singers, The Blind Boys of Alabama, and others. There's the Rock song, 'Last Time' by the Stones. There's the Soul/Blues song by James Brown and also Otis Rush. Different songs people...Not the first time different songs shared the same or similar titles....All three are great songs,...especially Otis Rush's 'Maybe The Last Time'
buzzardbait99 1 year ago
so good
moriluk 1 year ago
Can't believe that this gave genesis to 'Ridin' Solo', which is one of the shittiest songs of all time. The Stones took from this to make the Last Time, after which Andrew Oldham made a symphonic version of it. Then in 1997, the Verve decided to sample the symphonic version of the Last Time in order to make Bittersweet Symphony. And in turn, Jason Derulo sample Bittersweet Symphony in order to make Ridin' Solo. Good music, what happened to you?
oneUNITED7SS 1 year ago 22
@oneUNITED7SS evolution of sampling? hm.....
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@oneUNITED7SS yea but the shit thing is that the rolling stones got all the royalties to bittersweet symphony because it used their song the last time, which isnt actually their song, according to this post
TheFilthyMexicunt 3 months ago
I thought it was the "5 Blind Boys of Mississipi" that wrote this song and that The Stones ripped off?
It's clear where the Stones got their version from. I'm surprised they weren't sued over it at some point.
shimokita2 1 year ago 2
@shimokita2 no i think this song is public domain becasue its an old negro spiritual however the stones version is VERY similar lol
devantecooley 1 year ago
@devantecooley It's not similar at all. Brian Jones's riff, the sound, the melody. I like the Staples version but it bares more similarity to the Exile period.
sakalan 1 year ago
Oh my sweet Lord, this is one of the most awesome, haunting, surreal sounding spirituals I have ever heard. It is dripping with the blood, sweat, and tears of the south.
j1215hurd 1 year ago 2
My God, this song is SO haunting, so eerie....I hear this and instantly I'm back home in rural NC, walking through the peanut fields. Little wooden Southern Black church sitting in the distance.....yet I hear, also, a sense of foreboding all up and through this song.
What a shame nobody here can even discuss how great this song is...who cares about the stupid Stones/Verve/whatever???
CheekyMulattress 1 year ago 2
@CheekyMulattress Well, you have to admit, The Rolling Stones, The Andrew Oldham Orchestra, The Verve, and now Jason Derulo have all made their mark on this song. Not everybody likes each version, but this song has such a rich history now because it keeps appearing in different forms in popular culture. And even though this is a beautiful incarnation of the song, half the beauty of it is how it evolved over the last 55 years. Not every song can boast that.
PinkFloyd47 1 year ago
@PinkFloyd47 Good comments. Props to the song.
sparkomatic 1 year ago
@CheekyMulattress I can discuss it!!!!! I love this song and play it a couple of times a week to keep my soul stirred up !!!!
I only wish it were longer- I cry every time I hear it not because it makes me sad but because I feel the "other side" calling and I can't stand the strain, but I can't resist it either, does that make any sense? p60
piscean60 1 year ago
Bugsy, The Stones wrote a completely new song with that one line, the words in the refrain (not the music) as the main lyrical hook. The musical hook is the riff written and played by Brian Jones. Today Jones would have been credited but not the Staple Singers. The Verve sampled and copied and recorded the orchestral version of the Last time, released in 1966(?). The copied it note for note, changed the instrumentation on some parts.
sakalan 1 year ago
@sakalan Yes, but I can argue (and I will) that The Verve's sample was a lot more effective, iconic, and just plain enjoyable than The Rolling Stones' original. But that, of course, is opinion: I'm just not a Stones fan.
PinkFloyd47 1 year ago
my aunt have this on tape n cd its a great history to listen to
Goodwinish 1 year ago
to all that have been reading my posts on this:
My Great grandmother wrote over 300 spirituals that are published in millions of hymnal books. these songs are sang in churches everyday. The company that published her songs never gave her a dime. Ida Reed (my G-Grandmother) died a slow painful death in poverty. The stealing of copywritten material for proffit is something that angers me to no end. Punlishing companies have ripped off artists for a century. IT"S RETRIBUTION TIME
bugsycline 1 year ago
damn, there is SOME REALLY GOOD SANGIN' ON THIS SONG.
: )
mazaratialbum 1 year ago
I've been away from youtube for awhile, had to hear this again-
squeezes my heart, turns my blood cold, and refreshes my soul
all at the same time-
piscean60 1 year ago
I would hope the Staple Singers sue Jagger/Richards like ThePirateBay has been sued. Or even better, get rid of stupid copyright laws. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants and the music business is built by beggars and thieves, everybody steals/loans from eveyone else.
EzelWesik 1 year ago
it angers me like it does you, but at the end of the dya, the staple singers are christians, "true" chirstians....in other words, they are not worrying about money....you do it for the love of god and you will be rewarded in the end by god.
god is good all the time, all the time, god is good. : )
mazaratialbum 1 year ago
@mazaratialbum: Please remember me to rob you of all your belongings whenever I meet you. God will find a place for you in heaven in the end anyway.
EzelWesik 1 year ago
what kind of voices!!! very impressing!!! thank you - a lot!
4orsaorsa 1 year ago
Oh, how wonderful !
This is healing, touching and worth to be heard every day -
these wonderful musicians with their voices are the
REAL SUPERSTARS
S T A P L E S I N G E R S ! ! !
Why can´t we see that so much of this others todays "s......tuff " is , well let´s say:
not worth to listen to
I m missing music like the Staple singers in every days "Berieselung"
mcrock17 1 year ago
Oh, how wonderful !
This is healing, touching and worth to be heard every day -
these wonderful musicians with their voices are the
REAL SUPERSTARS
S T A P L E S I N G E R S ! ! !
Why can´t we see that so much of this others todays "s......tuff " is , well let´s say:
not worth to listen to
I m missing music like the Staple singers in every days "Berieselung"
mcrock17 1 year ago
Alen Klein would have sued his own mother if he thought he could make a buck...
lordkoos 1 year ago
I think this is the song with the most confusong story ever.
shopgirl157 2 years ago
Its a shame they aint got no gospel videos of them
jddrew1000 2 years ago
The "Oooh Lord" at 0:37 is so haunting. So beautful, what a great song.
andpyramids 2 years ago
This was the embryo of Bittersweet Symphony.
oneUNITED7SS 2 years ago
Beautiful! They sound like angels - and I'm not even Christian!
Desperada57 2 years ago 2
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Desperada57 2 years ago
The Stones didn't steal nor "plagiarise" this song. It wasn't written by the Staples Singers, it's a 150+ year old traditional tune and is "public domain". The stones took the last line of the chorus & the name & wrote a whole new melody & lyrics for the remaining 95% of it. There's nothing at all wrong with that.
RobMackenzie 2 years ago
@RobMackenzie exactly...rappers today steal shit from everyones elses music...look at "Let's Go" by Lil Jon, they stole that from "Crazy Train" by Ozzy
captgjohnson 2 years ago
And white musicians and white producers have stolen Black music, Black culture (and even Black people in the transatlantic slave trade)for quite some time now, LONG before rap music even came on ths scene. Don't get me started.
chj2 2 years ago 2
@chj2 ok the next time u hear a heavy metal song stolen from black music tell me cuz last time i checked that was his own written material...dont get me started
captgjohnson 2 years ago
@RobMackenzie in this case, they could have add "trad." in the credits...
mtwallet 2 years ago
@mtwallet yes interesting :) that's how it should be & often is when someone re-arranges a trad. tune (such as what we're hearing here). & the last line of the stones tune is their arrangement of this trad. tune. But all the rest of the Stones "Last Time" is their own original composition (not to mention Brian Jones original guitar hook) & it has nothing musically or lyrically in common with the trad. tune, so to credit the whole stones number as just a re-arrangement seems a bit unfair to them
RobMackenzie 2 years ago
Maybe, but where did the Stones get THEIR NAME? From a 1950s Muddy Waters song called, "Rolling Stone" . WHITE singers have been sampling Black music and musicians long before rappers even came on the scene: took West African Banjo music called it Country and Western, Took the Blues and called it Rock and Roll, and several other historical examples. Don't even get me started on the countless times this has and STILL happens - including the Isley Bros. suing Michael Bolton for stealing a song.
chj2 2 years ago 2
This gives me goosbumps.
ruthieworld 2 years ago
stunning!!! I can't stop my tears!!!!
thankyou, thankyou and please post
more of the Staples and other classic
gospel
A request: the Staples version of
"If I had my way" ?
ThePiscean60 2 years ago
first time i heard this version of this song-Amazing
thanks for posting it
LogicBoardShop 2 years ago
Mmmmmmmm. Delicious.
momwentcrazy 2 years ago
Testify! ... Can we all, brothers and sisters, just witness the simple truth in this song?
tolstoy1 2 years ago
copied most of the lyrics from the chorus lol
ScreenFlavour 2 years ago
The Stones were heavily influenced by this song, but it was not the intention for a direct rip off, more than likely they felt something in this music that wasn't present in a lot of the "whiter" music available during that time period
gaubgj01 2 years ago
but of course there was a lot of black folk type music that had been ripped off and used by white singers during the late 50's early 60's...
gaubgj01 2 years ago
Such great evolution from this song......
Start from the Staple Singers- This maybe my last time to Rolling Stones -The Last Time TO todays Bittersweet Symphony sung by Richard Ashcroft of the Verve :D COOL AINT IT.
Gahlahad431 2 years ago
You missed out the 1966 Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra's version which is only a little different from the Verve's effort!
PressPlay2Go 2 years ago
It gets crazier than that, Girl talk includes it in one of his tracks, entitled 'One More Time'. It shows up somewhere around the middle.
m2o5x 2 years ago
7 beers later and Im all Fucked Up...who made who and who fucked who...thats my ?
knytebyte 2 years ago
no one can sing this song like the staple singers!
i1rasta 2 years ago
I wouldn't say The 'Stones plagiarized this song. It certainly influenced it though.
LarryRickenbacker 2 years ago
It's weird. The Stones' song is a strong echo of this, and the Verve song is a strong echo of the Stones.
Yet somehow only the Stones are being payed. Proof that history is written by the victors.
AdsuMudi 2 years ago 3
Stick the Andrew Oldham Orchestra's Last Time in between the Stones and The Verve.
If they can give credit for that to the stones then the whole thing belongs to whomever wrote this.
GwaiiEagle1 2 years ago 2
Wow, The Stones rip off black music yet again. If you don't recognize how much of a rip off this is then you're deaf or just in denial. Jagger himself has said he ripped off this song.
BITCHPLZSTFU 2 years ago 2
Given that this a traditional song, they did use black music (apu) but there was no plagiarizing since there is no known author to rip off. Traditional spirituals don't have copyrights. Too bad because whoever had that copyright would be sitting on a mint.
mert828 2 years ago
The Stones only used ONE line from the song, which doesn't even remotely compare to the Stones song with the same name. There is no theft here or anything of the kind.
B7aug5 2 years ago
Amen! Amazing voices
youseeityoudont 2 years ago
gospel soul at it's best!
REE072 2 years ago
Those 2 young ladies could really put their all into it!! They had wonderful voices!!!!
Vanillablooos 2 years ago
Mike Henderson had re-done this song as well!
Vanillablooos 2 years ago
Holy crap i haven't heard this in a long time, and i'm a verve fan too. what makes this interesting is that Oldham, and Klein don't really suprise me about who influenced them, old blue and made it there own, however without giving proper credit or payment to those they "borrowed" from.
I know the stones sued for writers credit which is understandable but Kline should pay his share to those he stole from. Oldham's arrangement was his own, the hook stuck. but Kline holy crap man....
MagikPoo 2 years ago
Fuck you, Allen Klein.
wopman1010 2 years ago
Wow-- That is really something. I've never heard anything even remotely like this.
DogbiteOW 2 years ago
This is GOOD! Got my feet moving! I like the reverb. And who sings harmony like this anymore!!??
nailswood 2 years ago
thats a tremelo sound effect, not reverb. whata ya retaded???
cdglax2000316 2 years ago
You are not the first to ask that. What is the difference? Would you please direct me to something with distinct reverb so I can see if my ears can tell? Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
nailswood 2 years ago
reverb makes it sound further away or like its being played in a big room.
cdglax2000316 2 years ago
RESPECT a charming trend setting crew.
This genre of music liberated society.
Excellent music for cultural oppression.
vulnerable2 2 years ago 3
de staples!!
gittahfiend 2 years ago
we sang this song at my family reuon in TX.
case1show 3 years ago
'Be careful of the stones you throw' could be the B side
jd7547 3 years ago
What an interesting debacle. The Stones record a new version of an old spiritual and it becomes a Rock hit in the sixties. Andrew Oldham records an orchestral version of the Stones version. The Verve use Oldham's, (the now third version of the song). Oldham gets pissed and Allen Klein who owns the Stones catalogue sues them for 100% of all royalties?. Mama Mia Batman!
surfmcgoogler 3 years ago 10
what's even more strange is that this song was around possibly 150 years b4 the staple singers did it,
the song is a traditional spritual.
wich means the rights are public domain.
however, as in with the use of classical music only the performance can be copywritten material... so I'm confused how Jagger and Richards were awarded any money...?
bugsycline 2 years ago 14
@bugsycline only in america can something stupid like this happenes!!!!
sopaman1234 1 year ago
@bugsycline me too
34muggsy34 1 year ago
@bugsycline Because the Stones and mostly Brian Jones who wrote the riff, recorded a new different rock song with that one line about last time. The Stones wrote an original. The Verve copied AOLs version of the Stones song.
sakalan 1 year ago
@sakalan I'm sorry, but stealing is stealing.
stones stole the whole chorus of the song. That's enough for the law to stand up in court. Pop's staples's people should sue Jagger Richards. and the estate of Allen Kline.
Were not talking about one measure of music or a few beats here, it's a WHOLE CHORUS!
Theft. Plain and Simple. There's not a judge in America that would disagree. Just listen!
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline Agreed! I find it stunning that the Stones could sue the Verve when Bittersweet Symphony sounds NOTHING like The Last Time but the Staples can't sue the Stones for Jagger's and Richards blatant plagiarism. If the Stones had a case, then the Staples have one hell of a case in my opinion. Klein, Richards and Jagger are pots calling the kettle black. Honestly, they should just give the Verve back the money rightly owed them and while they are at it, pay the Staples too.
asazimri 1 year ago
@bugsycline
The Stones took one lyric from this song, but all the rest plus the riff were theirs.
The Verve based their entire song on the Stones riff. Big difference.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn It goes beyond "just a lyric. they used the entire chorus,even the chrod changes. 3 bars are all that is required for copywrite lawsuit.
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline
"This May be the last time, I don't know." One line. The Stones chords sound nothing like this slow gospel song. Nothing actionable, which is why the Staples haven't made one move in almost fifty years.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn
Go find an entertainment attorney, see what he/she says.
check the law, look at the chord progression.
besides you are wrong it's not one line
it's three you dope, count how many times it's said.
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline
Are you that stupid? You actually count the number of times a single line is said as multiple lyrics? And the slow vibrato here sounds like the Stones sharp circular riff? Yes, no wonder the entertainment attorneys haven't received a call from the Staples. Some evidence.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Yes you moron, that is EXACTLY what you do, or rather what attorneys do (God knows what you do). Look up previous copyright infringement cases such as "My Sweet Lord / He's So Fine". The Stones entire chorus, the chords and lyrics, are lifted from this. As for why the Staples don't sue, have you ever heard of Statute of Limitations?? Well they exist for cases like this, it is likely not worth the time and attorney fee's to sue 45 years after the fact. Please educate yourself.
asazimri 1 year ago
@asazimri
So the Staples were somehow gagged from suing all while the Statute of Limitations didn't apply? And Your ears are so bad that Harrison's straight lift of melody and tempo of He's So Fine is anywhere close to the distant relationship between the Stones Last Time and the Staple's version? Get into stand-up. You're absolutely hilarious.
(A circular guitar riff in a different key sounding like a molasses-slow gospel song LMAO).
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn The lyrics of the chorus of both songs are the same. The clincher being the end '......maybe the last time, I don't know" with the chord dropping a perfect 4th in both songs on the word "know" and the singer dropping a minor second at exactly the same time in the same rhythm. The timbre of the passage may differ between gospel, pop, rock, metal, grunge, etc. etc. but the fact is the Stones used this chorus. How can you possibly argue it when even Richards admits it?
asazimri 1 year ago
@asazimri
The chorus still = one line. You still lose.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Wow! You are a fool, you defeat yourself with your own argument. If the chorus (and chord progrssion AND melody) lifted by Richards from this song only get to be counted one time then so does the endlessly looped sample in Bittersweet Symphony. The strings, the bells, the melody still only = one time. You still lose. Not to mention the fact that Bittersweet Symphony in no way resembles the Stones version of The Last Time.
asazimri 1 year ago
@asazimri
I never said chord progression and melody; you're desperately trying to put words in my mouth to save your drowning case. However, the melody of Bittersweet IS that of Stones' Last Time (albeit in orchestral form); just ask Ashcroft as his agent sends ABKCO their monthly check. See ya!
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn No the melody is not the same. Figure it out on your piano or guitar. They are diffrent notes and different melodies. If you have trouble transcribing it let me know as I have already done this. Neither the strings nor the bells in Oldham version follow the melody or the rhythm of the stones version. I have transcribed it, you do the same. If they are the same, tell which notes in which measure match up between the Stones and Oldham's version. If you can. :) Cya
asazimri 1 year ago
@bugsycline
Stop wasting your time. Clearly this guy is an idiot. He knows nothing about songwriting or copyright law.
moriluk 1 year ago
@steveconn Doesn't matter what the chords "sound like" but what they are. You can add distortion, chorus, and flange to the opening riff of "Satisfaction" but that doesn't change the fact that it is being stolen. Look bud, even Richards has admitted that this song was inspirational to him but fel that it was okay as this song dates way back and is thus traditional. You are so lost in this argument, go die in a fire :)
asazimri 1 year ago
@steveconn Wrong, they sampled Oldham's version, AND WITH PERMISSION. For a 50/50 split! Klein wanted 100. The Stones totally lifted this chorus, deal with it.
asazimri 1 year ago
@bugsycline I agree.
But to my knowledge it was actually the Rolling Stones publishers that sued, then sold the song to Nike (the one with the sample of the instrumental version of this song).
Either way Jagger and Richards got all writing credits. Just like they did so many other songs they didn't write.
moriluk 1 year ago
@moriluk Allen Klien, correct (publishers)
bugsycline 1 year ago
@moriluk
Total horseshit. Mick and Keith wrote all those songs. Wyman and Taylor whining about their instrumental filler doesn't change that fact.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Taylor wasn't even in the band when they recorded Last Time you stupid fuck. Learn your shit before posting asshole.
moriluk 1 year ago
@moriluk
Did I ever mention Taylor, or that the Stones and not Klein sued the Verve? You're embarrassing yourself. Come back when you're ready.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Oh and BTW, i wasn't saying that YOU said chord progression and melody. I stated chord progression and melody a few posts down (Perfect 4th down and a semitone drop in the melody, remember?). Try to keep up if you can. As for drowning case, you are the one down pal. Your only defense is "Well the courts say so". Missing the point, that is what everyone (but you) are saying is wrong. Moriluk is right, you are a twit. Now figure the notes like I said before and prove me wrong
asazimri 1 year ago
@asazimri
Yawn, like I said, prove it in a court of law. Or sneak tbe checks away from ABCKCO, otherwise, been fun watching you chase your tail, but now a bit boring. Bye.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn I'll take that as "I can't figure out the notes or the melody so therefore I can't back up any of my claims." Yes, always call "prove it in court" or "fight ABCKCO", anything to take the focus of your failed argument. Either logically defend your argument or shut your moronic facehole. Been fun watching you flounder and make a fool of yourself. No go figure out the music and state exactly where YOU find the similarities. Otherwise, yawn.
asazimri 1 year ago
@asazimri
Yes, I failed, while ABCKO gets their money and you're reduced to stomping your feet on youtube. You really showed us all lol.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Yes.
moriluk 1 year ago 2
@steveconn You are clearly stupider than you look. And you look retarded.
Sorry everybody. This is a great song. Even as I listen to this I think to this original argument, that Jagger and Richards wrote this song. They didn't. This is a very old song. It has fallen into place with the heart of the current "intellectual property" laws. Shame.
moriluk 1 year ago 2
@moriluk
Petty insults and unprovable allegations. Pretty powerful stuff moriluk.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn I went to your channel and listened to your horrible singing and retched out of tune guitar playing...
Don't quit your day job buddy, they aren't giving away record deals to middle aged bald dudes who are tone deaf
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline
What do personal insults against me have to do with the Staple Singers/Stones controversy? You're a below the belt scumbag.
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn Don't play the "Poor me card" now, after all you were the one calling me stupid first, I simply reacted and pointed out to you and to others reading your dissinformation that you are a tone deaf hack, who needs to learn how to tune his guitar and buy some rogaine.
what's the matter, can you dish it out, but not take it?
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline also @steveconnman
to answer your question, where I'm from fighting has no rules.
so "hitting below the belt" means nothing to me.
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline
Just remember, "Those who can't do, teach." See ya later, "teach."
steveconn 1 year ago
@steveconn
Look it does no good for me to "teach you"
I have shown you facts, I have even quoated Federal Copyright laws to you and you claim "they are bogus"
I cannot teach those whom wish not to learn...
However it looks at those there are many folks on this page who wish to teach you a few things.
ps, I heard they are giving away free samples of Rogaine at rite aid. Try it!
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline
How does any of this affect the court's decision against the Verve? Answer: it doesn't. Have fun chasing your tail.
steveconn 1 year ago
@bugsycline Hah. You hit the nail on the head.
moriluk 1 year ago
@steveconn Wow. I don't even know what to say. You are one of the stupidest people I have ever come across on the tubes. You seem to pretend you haven't lost any argument here. And you slew insults all over. Then cry when someone does it to you. Please go become an hero. I am done here.
moriluk 1 year ago
@moriluk
All I know is the Verve lost a court case to ABCKO. Your insults and crying mean nothing in the face of that. Good luck.
steveconn 1 year ago
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moriluk 1 year ago
@bugsycline I think the reason was that The Verve's producer actually sampled some of the music itself. Still, greedy of them.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@NeverAloneForever you're missing the point.
Jagger/richards did not write the song.
So how can they have a copywrite claim?
so I guess I can start rerecording beatles songs and start selling them as my own songs? lol!
bugsycline 1 year ago
@bugsycline No I got it. The lyrics are from a traditional negro spiritual. But I think the writing credit is for the music since Bittersweet Symphony has it's own lyrics. Unless I'm ill informed.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@bugsycline people with a to nof money can make just about anything happen, this is my one problem with a capitalist system, the best law money can buy.
mako7828 1 year ago
That'll slap Allen Klein in his lawsuity face.....I think i'm going to keep saying that one until somebody does something about it.
surfmcgoogler 3 years ago
There would be a bittersweet irony here if the reformed Verve should cover this. Interesting 'lawyer shit' to quote Keith Richards - if they get sued by the Rolling Stones management once more!
jd7547 3 years ago
Well, if the Stones took the chorus of this song, it wouldnt be the first time a song has been "sampled"... people do that nowadays and no one complains as long as the proper people are compensated... BTW, what the heck is it supposed to say backwards? I dont have the 3equipment to do that.
vashydana 3 years ago
I heard this is a public domain song. No one knows who wrote this version. Yes, the Stones stole the chorus and gave themselves songwriting credit for the song, which for most part other than the chorus, they wrote. Someone told me their is no songwriting credit for this original version. Can anyone one here confirm that?
elmolewis1 3 years ago
beautiful
Chesterton7 3 years ago
excellent!! i love their early gospel stuff
jody808 3 years ago
Granted, The Verve should have had sense to either clear the sample or record their own string loop, but that suit was a huge low-class maneuver by Klein. It helped tear down a band that was really pursuing the muse and making interesting, emotional work that somehow managed to work in the general market. I feel I was robbed of some great music that the band didn't make after they disintegrated. Forth was released Forth this year to little attention, but I'm glad they took another swing.
thehappyclub 3 years ago 2
i cant hear the verve in this at all lol is that just me ?
Reagy2007 3 years ago 3
The stones robbed this song, it was covered by the Oldham orchestra with the violin part of bittersweet... in it. The verve pays out royalties for the right to play it
ohmydayzy 3 years ago
Nope, not just you, Reagy2007. I can't hear the Stones either...there is no similarity other than a few lyrics.
KookyCanuck 3 years ago
You have to play it backwards. :-))
franqee 3 years ago
from about 1.51 till the end...but this version is so slow compared with the stones" and we're talking about one line or 2 here at the max.
fireplace911 3 years ago
the stones did not sue the verve, allen klein did.he owns all stones from come on (the first single) to brown sugar.and will do anything for money like letting pepsi and mars use brown sugar and satisfaction.also the verse of bittersweet sounds like a slowed down version of the last times verse (which is the part mick wrote),(the notes are the same)not the chorus which is the part of the stones last time that sounds like the staple singers.
georgeandresgut 3 years ago
This is a really good song. The Rolling Stones may have sued The Verve for using their song, but they basically stole this one to begin with.
IrishOwl 3 years ago 3
Nope, the Stones' song sounds absolutely nothing like this song.
KookyCanuck 3 years ago
I love the sound of this song, so beautiful.
adidasguy86 3 years ago 4
Beautiful Gospel Song. Love The Picture.
PressPlay2Go 3 years ago 3