Macedonia Greece - Name Dispute - The Macedonians of Greece

[MATAZA10]

The most obvious name for their country would be ''Republic of Skopjie''.

Unfortunately, that name has no history behind it. But their population

is about 24% Albanians,35% Bulgarians,30% Slavs ,11% other ethnic groups

and they need some history for their whole population (even stolen) ,in order

to keep their population and country united. Also, they need a name that has

no connection with Albania,Bulgaria and Serbia. So, the only neighboring state

left is the really unlucky Greece...

[SuperDetelin]

Saka da kage bulgari

[unfukkkmee]

ΤΗΕ ΜΑCEDONIA IS NOT COUNTRY

 U ARE ALL slavs. U ARE NOT macedonians THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE ARE GREEK PEOPLE THE AEGEAN IS GREEK EARTH MILLION YEARS

[alexthehistorian]

@KozMick1 ρε μαλακα κανε delete ta comment tous

[KozMick1]

@alexthehistorian Fail

[bigballlllsofun]

they want to unite macedonia dont you mean take what isnt yours more theft greece can piss on fyrom and that will sort out the name issue once and for all to the victors the spoils to the loser who gives a shit

[wildboymk]

this clip with this fake subtittles is only a example how deep the human mind can be corrupted by hate! and after all they (newGreeks) still belive that they have their ancient glory even now or that they are democracy and normal persons?!

[KozMick1]

@wildboymk the subtitles were a joke lol

[wildboymk]

this clip with this fake subtittles is only a example how deep the human mind can be corrupted by hate!

[5hitter]

Macedonia is Greek!!! The slavs came 1000 years after Alexander and the Macedonia

[giorgospapas85]

τι λετε ρε μουνια?

[MARKOforever100]

mamu vi ebam grciii !!!!

[BluAndWhiteArmy]

no

correction

WE ARE BULGARIAN SLAVS!

[psonio3d]

In Greece Slav-Macedonians are represented by a political party called "Rainbow"...All Slav-Macedonians have the right to vote. In the latest elections in Greece rainbow received 6 thousand votes... That is 6.000 out of 10.000.000..

There is no connection of the Slav-Macedonians with ancient Greek Macedonians!

Yes , that is 0.090% of the total Greek population.

Claims of a pseudo-Macedonian minority just can't be supported by facts...

Only the FYROMian propaganda supports such theories..

[angomako]

so the ponic orthodox turks that were colonised on the places of the expelled slavophone macedonians---they are "related" to the ancient macedonians? pihh

[psonio3d]

One thing to set straight... You are not slavophon Macedonians... You are Macedonian Slavs... If you can't understand the difference study some grammar and you will find out...

And one last thing... You speak about pontic orthodox turks... That little you know about world history... Perhaps you should study about the Hellenism in Asia Minor before you say the were Turks... The Greek that evacuated their homes in Asia Minor not to be slain by Kemal... Pontioi never forget who they are...

[angomako]

here we go again.

there is no such ethnic group as "slavs".

if you dont trust me,go and ask.

withing the slavonic sprachwelt there are many many ethnic groups--only yugoslavia had 6,one of which were macedonians.

WE ARE SLAVOPHONE MACEDONIANS.

the pontic turks had no idea who they are--it was instaled in them by the greek church--just as it tried to instal it into the slavophone population of macedonia--you know,when metaxas was killing people if they spoke makedonika.

[psonio3d]

You are Slavs... So far so good... The ethnic groups of Slavs in Yugoslavia were 6 indeed... But Tito named you Macedonians with no historical backup at all... Just because you lived in the wider region of Macedonia doesn't make you Macedons... Therefore you are Macedonian Slavs...

The pontic GREEKS lived in Minor Asia long before you Slavs appeared on the immigration map! You never spoke "Makedonika".. You named that way your Bulgar-Slavic dialect without historical backup either...

[peshoman]

Macedonians are Bulgarians they are not the ancient macedonians they are slavs theyr names are bulgarians they speak and write in bulgarian

[UberMaKedoN]

Nope we are not diry face - tataro bulgarian

we are just MACEDONIANS

[JANDAR69]

Bulgarians make use of the Macedonian "CYRILIC _KIRILICA" alphabet that is used all over former USSR and other countries that have a slavonic dialect. Bulgarian is a mix between Macedonian,Serbian & Ucranian

[Alexander29854]

Who ever gave to you the right to use as your "National" name a historical Hellenic name?

What connection you can ever have with the ancient Macedonians the very moment you are proven SLAVS!!!!

Slavic tribes make their appearance in the area of Balkans at 600 AC._

[Jasonbolt23]

MACEDONIA WAS NEVER GREEK..PERIOD

[KozMick1]

dumbass Fyromian macedonia was greece for like thousands of years

[KozMick1]

MACEDONIA WAS ALWAYS GREEK... PERIOD

[bezdelnicar]

ti si makedonec ili grk?

[JANDAR69]

hey ZON ! bulgarian is very different to Macedonian even thpough it may sound simular, just like your greek sounds like SPANISH. Bulgars speek simular to the UKRAINE AND MACEDONIANS!!

TOTTALY STUPID GYPO GREKS LIKE YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS

[JANDAR69]

hey doopy Aleksandar is Macedonia ! his father conquered what is know as the greek world wich at that time was only Athens and Sparta. Spartan's did not refer to them selves as beeing greeks you GEEK ! Alex's mother is Albanian from IPRIUS & father Macedonian !!

you modern gypsies of greece are so stupid it's not funny.

remember CRETE,CYPRUS &Rhods were forced to be called greeks as of 100yrs ago. ASK YOUR PPL FROM THESE AREAS especially CYRIOTS they say FUCK YOU GREEKS !!

[powerMCgirl]

1000 000 people in greece are macedonians

[powerMCgirl]

MACEDONIA is not this stupid cantry g r e e c e MACEDONIA is MACEDONIA OK!!!!

AND THE g r e e c e ARE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE ... and pls first learn history you g r e e c e than say wath you think ..but that wiln not hapend never OK the g r e e c e are not from this world they think they are the best BUT THE TRYE IS:

MACEDONIA IS THE BEST AND g r e e c e ARE THE FUCKING REST haahha

[Jasonbolt23]

the name greek was invented in 1840..before that there was ONLY hellas

[ils1979]

there you go again jason...evn if the name greece was made this year...what does that mean..we had greek city states before..states like athens ,sparta,macedonia,thebes,

messinia etc etc..The fact that greece wasnt a unified country till then further harms your cause because it further proves the unity between the greek city states

[ivansitch]

LOL, Obviously you've only been reading fyromian books which only date back to 1991. Your the fool Jandar, infact a big one. You obviously believe in what you've been taught which is not your fault. Answer this question for me. Why is it that only books which were published in FYROM state that the ancient Macedonians weren't greeks???? How stupid are you. The whole world knows Macedonia is greek. You are the only idiots whihc believes this.Greece has actuall proof you moron!FYROM has nothiing!

[stergiosx]

Another Fact you fool gilbertobesanko is that the true Macedonians were Dorian Greeks(yes i know its hard to understand because your history books only date back to 1991), Dorian Greeks were the Spartans , Macedonians.

The Royal bloodline of Phillip(Alexanders father ) were originally from Argos.

So what have you got to say now that macedonians were different?

They were one of many Greek city states , borders didnt exist back then as they do today

[stergiosx]

Can you read Greek ?

Becaue if you can you would be able to read what it says on coins that were minted from Alexander the Greats coin mints

[stergiosx]

considered treason to what they did .

Gruevski is from Kratero in Greece , how do i know because my uncle knew his grandfather and his grandfather was a communist hence fleeing Greece.

Now the whole world isnt stupid enough to belive the rubbih you people portray but you never know.

Bottomline your language is bulgarian /Sebian , there was no slavic language in greece prior to 7 century AD look it up if you dont believe me.

All you have to do is look at anciant coin from Alexander the Greats

[stergiosx]

gilbertobesanko stop speaking rubbish as agreek macedonian i am appaled at the rubbish Fyromites speak and the lack of historical knowledge.

You Skopians as we call you were mainly Greeks Bulgarians and Serbians , during the civil war in greece it was the communists and the democrats ( for arguements sake), the communist greeks were kicked out and went to Yugoslavia over time they used the language more frequently ,these Greeks that were exiled werent allowed to return to Greece as it was

[ivansitch]

Since when do greeks speak a turkish dialect? I don't what you've been reading but did you know that St Ceril and methodius where greek? It's written in books my friend that the ancient Macedonians spoke greek. Greece also has proof to prove it. So are you saying the history books a filled with lies? Please man stop the bullshit. The macedonina identity was created by TITO. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't be arguing now. And the soldiers were termed serbs or bulgarians because they WERE INDEED!

[ivansitch]

It stayed with greece because its GREEK. It was actually divided into 3 parts and do you know why? Because Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia fought together against the turks. Why wasn't their any Macedonian armies fighting??? Because it simply didn't exist. Your identity was either greek, bulgarian or serbian. It writes it in the history books man, I'm not making this up! No one knew of a macedonian langauge back then. The serbian part was called VARDASKA until TITO changed it to macedonia.

[ivansitch]

This just shows how confused you people are. First you say your greek and then you say your Macedonian.FYROM is a fake country, the so called macedonian identity you think you have is fake. Explain to me why you speak a bulgarian dialect? Slavs is what you are. Macedonina was never an ETHOS. It was a region inhabited by various groups. Before the slavs arived in the 6th century only greeks ruled there.People got confused about their identity so they decided to call themselves just macedonian.

[ivansitch]

Mate if u say your greek macedonian then you are Greek! Yes your Macedonian also but not "ethnically". Ethnically you are Greek. If your not greek, then your bulgarian. Remember, Macedonia was a region in the balkans, it was never an ETHNOS. Your langauge is a bulgarian dialect. Since when did the Ancient Macedonians speak bulgarian. The so called "macedonian language" was created by tito when he created the macedonian state in Yugoslavia. Read proper history and then you will understand!

[Artsiotis]

den kserete ti ponira mounia einai autoi oi woulgaroi tis woreias Elladas...

[ZAREMACEDONIA]

kozmick1 is a big asshole!!! you klaim to be a greek but this is a clip on macedonian language and if you dont understand it says that there is macedonian minority in greece about 1 milion!!

[momcemk]

Macedonian minority political party Rainbow and GHM for violation of Article 138 paragraph 1 of the Criminal Code, with the same arguments of his fathers complaint report (see above). The Minister used his right by referring the matter to the Prosecutor of the Supreme Court, because he considered the matter urgent and very important; the Prosecutor was still reviewing the request by mid-August 2008.

[MakedonskaUbavica]

I cannot wait to 2013! In 2013 Bulgaria and Greece must give those 2 stolen area's back! Macedonia will never change its name and Greece is an old mother fucking country with no history and thats why you steal ours! We are no slavic. Macedonian people are ancient! i will never say that im slavic because it isn't true. That another greek propaganda that we are slavic but we are ancient!!!!!!! In 2013 Greece will be nothing!! We will get everything what is stolen from us! united macedonia

[KozMick1]

@MakedonskaUbavica FUCK Fyrom, Slavic Cunts.

[Boufos007]

@MakedonskaUbavica You are Slavic with no history that steal Greek history.You know nothing about Hellas and about the different races that you are and you claim to be Macedonians.Sleep over and see dreams because that' where you're living in.IN A DREAM.

[vetoni1212]

Hey SHMUCKY, You are such friggin liar YOU PIECE OF SHMUCK

[ayeaye77]

HAHAHA I like this man 2:47

"Thats true that theres no Greeks, There is everything in Greece expect Greeks" lol

[Thoukudides]

They're Bulgarians.

[ayeaye77]

Bulgarians are Macedonians(and others) who adopted the name "Bulgar" from Propaganda and its no wonder your preaching the very same thing that they "taught" you... Go away...

[Thoukudides]

Macedonia is a Greek word. Fyromanians speak Bulgarian!

[JANDAR69]

you are reading from text made up by anglos whom no nothing better.During Alexsanders relm there was no greece ,! you fkn know this but are playing stupid. The unity of the tribes that are now called greeks tpook place after alexsanders death and the killings of the royal family. Sparticus united these people to be known as hellens todays greeks. why do youn idiots refer to Macedonians as SKOPIANI ? i'm not a skopiani, SKOPJE is a city not a people. so you greeks are all PONTIANS then ?

[JANDAR69]

I can not belive how stupid you greeks are it shows how pathetic your studies are in greece "poor education" so you morrons come to the Macedonian univercities to study, that was untill you priminister told you eggs to not come over to the Vardar region to get schooling as it made greece look shit, in wich it is anyway.

[JANDAR69]

this goes to show how much your intelligents allows you to understand the fact is that greece is noted as one of 6 countries whom incorperate latin , e.g French is latin ,Italian is latin, spanish is latin.

just keep your emotions down as you make your self sound like an emmbarassing fool, but this is typical of a brain washed dope of a greek,or are you PONTIAN ? once again Macedonians & Bulgarians are not slavs you clown we speak a slavonic dialect not slavic.you obviously don't know the diff

[JANDAR69]

you may read the ancient text you pathetic child just like i do as any other Macedonian can but the things is I understand it and you don't hahahhhaah gamoti pstouisu tsigo elines GRK hahhah. stop talking shit and dreaming about us Macedonians you foolish Pontian hahahhah you must be one big SKROFA in your local area hahhahah greek boy

[skiros14]

Jandar69-Keep writing all your arguments. 1) It makes you and your Slavic people look stupid. 2) It proves you are uneducated. 3) you really have provided us with no proof to your claims.

[JANDAR69]

your proof comes from text made by anglos whom supported the devision of Macedonia.

You can not refer to ancient people south of agean Macedonia as greeks as there was no greece or greeks at the time . you have a thick head man greece came about as of 1802,it's the anglos that call your people greeks be it ancient or modern as they have no name for the un united tribes of the mediteranian but tye Macedonian always have been what they are Macedonian ! crete & Cyprus were forced to be greeks !

[skiros14]

Our proof comes from text created by the Ancient Greek Macedonians. Written in the Greek Language! Please show us yours!

[JANDAR69]

SKILO , the Macedonians were never GREEKS do you understand this you stupid fool ??

It is the Macedonians that conquered Athens and ruled over you hellenic ass not greek, as greek is the modern term used to describe the united hellenistic nomads of 1802 greece. MACEDONIA PRIOR TO YOU HELLENS GETTING TOGETHER WAS ON IT'S OWN AS A COUNTRY UNDER A KING !! YOU DUMB PONTIAN GYPO. YOU NOMADS WERE DEMOCRATS ! REMEMBER NO KING !ONLY ELDERS THAT CONTROLLED YOU FOOLS.

[ivansitch]

LOL, Obviously you've only been reading fyromian books which only date back to 1991. Your the fool Jandar, infact a big one. You obviously believe in what you've been taught which is not your fault. Answer this question for me. Why is it that only books which were published in FYROM state that the ancient Macedonians weren't greeks???? How stupid are you. The whole world knows Macedonia is greek. You are the only idiots whihc believes this.Greece has actuall proof you moron!FYROM has nothiing!

[stergiosx]

Need i say more thank you for showing your stupidity even at 38 yo.

Lets set afew things straight you are all communists in Fyrom by fact not by opinion, most of you Fyromites were kicked out of greece( yes you were greeks)for being communist as greece was an anti communist country even during the dictatorship.you are also Bulgarians Serbians and Albanians take your pick which one you are .Why is it Bulgarians and Serbs know who the real Makedones were but you dont?

[stergiosx]

Secondly you idiot the hiistory in that regions extends further back than 1991 or even 1500ad, you get my drift.

Thirdly Alexanders royal Bloodline came from Argos(Peloponesse)as they were Dorian Hellenes same as the Spartans.

Forth during those periods the hellenic states were colonising that whole area all the way to Marseille( Greek city state) in mordern day France .

Fith you do know that there are close 150000 Hellenes still living in skopia that call themselves Greek not Skopian

[stergiosx]

so you tell me who is spinning the propaganda?

Another fact Gruevski is Greek by decent his grandfather was from Kratero and a communist hence why he got haven in Yugoslavia( at that time was communist), he wsa chased out, how do i know you ask?

My uncle knew his grandfather quite well and told alot of facts you wouldnt know about him

[ils1979]

so the spartans didnt have a king???is that what you are saying..lol

i cant wait to hear this one!!!

[drushtvo]

spartans had a king. i think their most famous one was called speros something.

remember that Sparta is an individual country. It is NOT greek, was taken by clans that would eventually form to the greece of today.

[ils1979]

as macedonia was...thank you very much for acknowledging this...your other country men though dont seem to this this!!!thank you my friend. They were all seperate states and then all came together to form the country greece. Why is that so hard for your people to see this...you obviously know your bulgarian...why dont they

[JANDAR69]

greek is based on latin you stupid pathetic child this shows how much you know. go and hide as i'll be embarrased to show my face if i was you, you are a drop kick.MACEDONIANS AND BULGARIANS ARE NOT SLAVS YOU FOOL. THE LANGUAGE IS MACEDONIAN A SLAVONIC DIALECT YOU FOOL NOT SLAVIC, SLAVIC IS RUSSIN ,SERB,POLISH,CHECK,SLOVAK,SLOV­ANIAN ECT ECT. TODAYS GREEKS ARE GYPSIES THE ONLY TRUE GREEKS IF ANY WOULD BE THE SPARTANS.YOU PEOPLE ARE THAT STUPIS IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY TO LAUGH ABOUT. ETHIOPEAN GREEK

[stergiosx]

The only fool here is you , you dont even know the chronology of the language, you are one sad person, Greek is the First indo-European language which derives from Sanskrit.

Then latin comes after Greek followed by german behind latin then to modern day English, modern day English comes from German so come again with latin being before Greek.

Before spouting more rubbish and showing us that you are a uneducated/cultured monkey do yourself a favor and shut up when you dont know

[JANDAR69]

there is no slavic Macedonians you dumb greek. Macedonians are only Macedonians

just like the bugarians are not slavs.

are you greeks latinos because you speak a latin,hispanic dialect ???

todays greece is just like the old jugoslavia you morron. todays greece became greece as of 1802 , before this there was no greece or greeks. the only kingdom here was the Macedonian one, no greeks you fool.

you are a GRK a thive in Macedonian terms no country uses the name hellass or ellatha just u fools

[skiros14]

Greek blood and culture have been around for thousands of years. Even your First President said it---that you have nothing to do with Alexander the Great---We are Slavs we came to the area in the 6th Century.

[JANDAR69]

you got it wrong child , use your mind and broaden your spectrum of intelligance to understand that greece and greeks exist as the current peopel and name of country as of 1802. 1940s greece was given the divided part of Agean Macedonia just as Serbia & Bulgaria got given the other regions. MACEDONIANS were first and never were greek as we had a macedonian kingdom ! you clown not a hellenic one. now SKROFEZIMU go and like your balls you dog of a greek PONTIAN gypsie.go away you fkn boar me.

[skiros14]

What people lived in Greece before the 1800? What were they then? Who build the Acropolis? Who invented the Pap Smear? How can you say that only the people living in Greece after 1804 were Greek and were created by Anglo's? What I can say is you are slavs you were created in 1946 by Marshall Tito. Even your fist President Gligorov said so.

[RapidoGr]

You are bulgarian you cant even read the ancient macedonian texts.You need translator

[MolossianZagori]

There was NO ethnic cleansing of Macedonians. There was an ethnic CLEANSING of Slavs and Bulgarians!!!

[skiros14]

01Macedonian-don't bring the British into this becuase every ex-British coloney has problems- lets see- 1) Israel/Palestine. 2) Cyprus, 3) Iraq 4) Kashmire-Pakestan and India. All British ex-colonies are f-ed Up!

[skiros14]

The name existed for over 4000 years and we are not disputing this. WE are disputing that you slavs have stolen it. The name the language the history is Greek!

[skiros14]

Macedonians are still their after 90 years? Where should they have gone? The Greeks have been around for thousands of years. Slavs, came to region in the 6th Century AD. Even Skopjia first President Gligorov said so. So what exactly are you trying to say?

[skiros24]

01 Macedonian-Yes Macedonia has existed for Thousands of years and you cannot deny that Macedonia was Hellenic. This is the issue. You claim Macedonia is in the heart. I say Macedonia is in the blood, Greek blood. All you are doing by claiming (stealing) our history and culture is making that blood boil. You are creating a nationalistic feeling in Greece that is not benificial to Skopians. If you choose a different name and cease claims on Greek land---things would be different.

[skiros24]

1) you country is the newer country not Greece. Your government should compromise with Upper or New Macedonia. That would solve everything. And about your comment about your army. You didn't defeat the UCK you signed a cease fire agreement giving them more autonomy and freedom. And believe me, Greece would have no problem with your pidly army. It would be over in 48 hours.

[skiros24]

01 Macedonian-Lets just look at today and reality. 1) The capital of the Northern Greek region of Macedonia is Theseloniki. This will not change. 2) The Greek area of Macedonia will never be lost to Skopians. Why because its a recongized territory of the EU. And you have no army powerfull enough to take it. Thus, any argument that you claim does not have any affect on the reality that exist today. I have one reality for you. Be carefull you don't lose Tetevo to Kosovo. Worry about that.

[JANDAR69]

you are one fool are'nt you . The Macedonians conquered you gypos before and it will happen again.

is it hard for you idiots to understand greece became greece as of 1802, Macedonia has been and will be arround for a long time as well as the macedonian people.your so called greek language is less tha 100yrs you fool ,look into your history. the term greeks is a modern term and not an ancient term like Macedonian ! todays greece is liek the iold yugoslavia made up of other peopel to be as one.

[skiros24]

01macedonian, again your guessing. How do we know the Greeks didn't find anything different? Now your grasping for anything. The basis of you argument is maybe their was something in those graves that points to Slavic ancient macedonia?

[skiros24]

01macedonian, you keep talking as if their was proof. All the artifacts and Graves have been dug up after 1913. Philips grave etc. Do you have an inventory of what was burned? Also, what did Ancient Macedonians write on Paper? Papyrus? If such old documents existed, they would have been copies of those. Again, hear say evidence and no physical proof. Your argument would never hold up in Court. By the way its alway been called Thesoloniki. Its even writen in the old testiment. So STFU!

[mentoras88]

FAKE!!!

[jroidos]

Can someone translate these bullshit??? I am sure this video is full of lies and inaccuracies

[Ivanshere]

I LOVE MACEDONIA! and the northern greeks r saying that theyre maco - i havent heard it yet but since i reign from northern greece, i know my pure blood

too much greek bullshit - oh well, it happens because of you greek mudbloods!

E=mc2 Greeks=saudiarabians+pooftas x pooftas!

HAHAHA!

[skiros24]

Just shows how uneducated you are. Lets forget about the arguments. If you claim norther Greece is yours. Why don't you try and take it? Their is 3 million Greeks in the region. Your country has 1 million Slavs and 800k Albanians. How can you claim something you do not have.

[Ivanshere]

three million Macedonian Greeks - mabye 2.8 million (as in Macedonians that have been brainwashed coz they were tortured/killed if they spoke Macedonian from 1920-1955 or sometime around those years)

I know because my mothers family was from the Aegean part of Macedonia - and they said they were Macedonian. THEY WERE FIGHTERS!

[skiros24]

Sorry, you numbers are off. Their were not 2.8 million people living in Northern Greece between those dates. The only brainwashed people are the Skopians. Who continue to have claims on Greece and steal its history.

[Ivanshere]

Well if we are brainwashed (i dont see how), there is still proof that u r thieves and bloodwashed - dont argue man, more truth will be spoken about you... people...

[skiros24]

I keep asking Skopians to provide phyiscal proof. And all your people can do is provide writings from modern scholars. You cannot provide physical evidence. Greeks have physical evidence that Ancient Macedonians were Greek. We have coins and Philips Grave with Greek writing on it. Not some slavic derivative of Bulgarian. Got it. If you can show me something phyiscal---I may believe you. But until then STFU!

[Ivanshere]

where is UR proof that Alexander The Great is greek and that Macedonia is greek? Where is this evidence (if any) excavated from? Why dont you show me a map of Alexander The Great and his reign and I SHALL tell u something that ur government or whoever the fuck made this bullshit did know

how do u say greek in greek? Macedonian? Bullshit Greece isnt Macedonia because I AM PURE and u r just someone part of afalse nation that invented the term pointlessness, slutiness, bullshit and homosexuality

[skiros24]

Go to Pela or Virginia and you will find the grave of Philip. On the Tomb is Greek writing. Also, we have Macedonian coins with Greek writing. Ivanshere, we have all the physical evidence. You still don't have any! Then when the Greeks call you to prove that you Slavs are descendent of Alexander the Great all you respond with is we are Gay. What kind of answer is that. Also, how can you call Greece a false nation? We are in the EU and Nato. What are you in?

[Ivanshere]

Tell me, why is the largest region in what is today known as 'greece' called Macedonia? And you r trying to confuse me in believing that Pella is spelt pela and Verginia is spelt virginia - u cannot mate, I know because I COME FROM THAT REGION NAMED MACEDONIA IN WHAT IS TODAY KNOWN AS GREECE!

The Macedonians in the region where i come from in northern greece are exactly the same as the ones in the rich land that you call "FYROM"

rememeber Pella and Verginia are in Macedonia whereiamfrom HAHA

[skiros24]

Ivanshere, you still have not answered my questions? What evidence you dyou have? Prove it.

[skiros14]

OK so what are you going to do about it? Mybe your Prime Minister will write another letter crying like a baby. Your country has no balls. If you feel this is your land then do something about it or shut the F up!

[Ivanshere]

HMM Isnt it true that your country is about to go through a civil war???

[Ivanshere]

if i may be correct, Macedonia is still in the EU.

It was because of that greek bullshit being presented in the NATO that had caused the Macedonian Representative whoever he is to leave - i would have had a nervous breakdown if i were him and kill the greek arab representative of the false nation of athens.

Now, have fun in that Rainbow Daisys or watever the fuck poofta clan that was situated in the wrong area in greece, (supposed to be in lesbos or mykonos) due to greek, gay stupidity.

[skiros24]

At this rate all I can comment is that you Ivanshere are an idiot!

[Ivanshere]

(lol this fag deleted the other comment claiming wheres my proof) like i said, so called todays "northern greece" was stolen from Macedonia now i am full of proof of that! and Verginia and Pella was part of Macedonia too - just ask the """greeks""" that live in that area - if they say theyre greek then its because of the trauma that u guys had sent to them after 1912. MARK MY WORDS - I AM MACEDONIAN FROM "NORTHERN GREECE" AND SO ARE ALL THAT COME FROM THERE.

[skiros24]

Dude, Just because you say you come from the region of Macedonia does not make you Macedonian. Macedonians were a Greek tribe. Also, I am not a Fag and if you were to say that to my face I would probably gut you! Thus, other Greeks like me are really pissed at your people and country. Since we are a EU country and do not start wars are only hope is for you guys to start something!

[skiros14]

Ivanshere you have no evidence that that todays SlavoMacedonians are descendents from Alexander the Great. If you do please show us the physical evidence.

[Ivanshere]

yeah ok mate ill go to your house -_- - where is your evidence? Vergina? MATE I COME FROM THERE AND I CLAIM MYSELF AS MACEDONIAN. If Alexander the Great wasnt Macedonian, than what was he? there werent no libyangreeks!

[ivansitch]

U idiot were not saying he wasn't Macedonian hahah offcorse he was, he was a HELLENE (which means greek) from Macedonia! just like the athenians and spartans where HELLENES. You blockheads really have no clue what your on about. You have no relation to ancient macedonia what so ever! Ancient Macedonia was greek, the whole world knows this, it's written in books worldwide. Your country has been teaching you this propaganda because they have territorial ambitions on greek macedonia.

[makedonas82]

Helicopter (eljx + fern) is named the plane which, for his elevation by the ground and your maintenance in flight, it makes use of one or more horizontal (or almost horizontal) strofejwn (helixes).AHAHAHAHHA GREEK

[elvuitton]

and where comes the word "homosexual" from? what does Homios or Omoios means in Greek? i wonder who invented this kind of sex :-D

autch!

[makedonas82]

WHERE ARE YOUR WORDS WITH THIS MEANING(makedonia) in yours language??????????

[elvuitton]

my language is Swiss-German... MAKE in Swiss-German means "to make" then DO means "here" and finally NIA means "Never" so Makedonija in Swiss-German (my language) means "make it never here"! .-)

[skiros24]

Look, if you can provide us. And I have asked you this before of phyiscal evidence that their was a Macedonian language before Alexander that was not Greek, I might believe you. The Skopian language is a derivative of the Bulgarian language. And why does every Skopian in the argument have to bring in Homosexuality into the argument. It would be like saying all you Skopian are Sheep Fcukers.

[elvuitton]

it's a point of view, maybe the bulgarian language is a derivative of Macedonian languge, not least bc the cyrilic alphabet was invented in Ohrid (todays Macedonia). the thing with the sheet, send me your adress and i'll send you the book where it's written. and don't worry, it's not a Macedonian historybook! and least the thing with the gayness, it's not a big deal, but it's prooved that the ancient greeks allowed to be gay, so don't deny that, just accept it.

[skiros24]

Not Maybe the Bulgarian language is a derivative of Macedonia? We all now ancient Macedonians spoke Greek. I keep asking you if you have any evidence to prove their was an Ancient Macedonian Language that is similier to what you speak today?

[Ivanshere]

So which asshole did you pull 'YOUR' "physical evidence" from?

Im dead serious where? Thessaloniki? where exactly Ill tell u whether the area of the site used to be part of Macedonia or not.

I know who I am, as my mother's family comes from the region of Macedonia in modern day greece - but how can i be greek if there is no arabian blood?

Besides, where did u get this bullshit that Macedonians came from some northern slav country!? why do greeks make these myths thats what i wanna know.

[skiros24]

Again, Skopians try to prove their Macedonians by trying to descredit Greeks saying 1) Their from Africa, 2) They are Arabs, 3) They are Fascist. But you provide no physical evidence like Coins or Graves or inscriptions that are written in your Derivative Bulgarian language. Do you know why? Because you have no proof.

[skiros14]

Because they are true!

[JANDAR69]

hey Pontian,it is known that Alexander and his men spoke a different laguage to whats know as the greeks today back then you were not greeks.greeks came as of 1802,it's anglos that have and are confusing you that these peopel are greeks, they werer not united as yet, it was iether soartan ,athenian, or what ever Macedonians were a people of a kingdom.The slavonic dialect came fr kirl&Metodi,just as the new modern greek dialect came in the 1920s.so that crete,cyprus,rhods & others can understand

[skiros14]

Jandar69-so if it is known that Alexander and his men spoke a different language to what is known as Greek today? What is it? Show me anything other than Greek? Do you have any evidence? If you know anything about Greeks their are 3 versions of the Greek Langugae- Koine Greek or Ancient Greek, Kathareousa and Domotic Greek. All are rooted in the Hellenic language. Show me anything other than Greek that Alexander used and I may believe you.

[JANDAR69]

how many greeks do you know called FILIP or ALEKSANDAR you clown ???

The Macedonians were known to be horse breeders and lovers of the horse where you guys loved the DONKEY, thus is given the name FILIPOS horse lover by the greeks = FILI in ENGLISH. Aleksandar means nothing of protector but a "cure in a dream".PONTIANS are not of a greek background but are of some sort of Turk, like as if you beeing from athens would understand pontian , you make me laugh.cyprus & crete don't even understand it

[skiros14]

Why do you insist on calling me a Pontian or a Gypsy. I can trace my roots back hundreds of years. Can you?

[skiros14]

Again you never answer my questions. All you can respond with is what all of you Skopjians try to do. Discredit todays Greeks by calling them Africans, Turks, Pontian, but you cannot answer my questions.

[skiros14]

So your saying that Greeks came to Greece in 1802? Are you mad?

[makedonas82]

Ελικόπτερο (έλιξ + πτερόν) ονομάζεται το αεροσκάφος το οποίο, για την ανύψωσή του από το έδαφος και τη διατήρησή σου σε πτήση, κάνει χρήση ενός ή περισσότερων οριζόντιων (ή σχεδόν οριζόντιων) στροφείων (ελίκων).

[makedonas82]

ΜΑΚ-ΕΔΟΝΙΑ

ΜΑΚ-ΡΟΣ

ΜΑΚ-ΡΙΑ

ΜΑΚ-ΑΡΙΣΤΟΣ ΜΑΚ Η ΜΑΚΕ =ancient greek word means long

ΜΑΚ-ΑΡΟΝΙ

ΜΑΚ-ΟΣ h ΜΗΚΟΣ

WHERE ARE YOUR WORDS WITH THIS MEANING in yours language??????????

[makedonas82]

can anyone answer me???about my questions....

[KozMick1]

i wonder y...

[makedonas82]

why the third man say the word emeis leme the greek word εμεις λεμε ???????????????????whyy????he don't know to speak very well this ?(fake lamguage)?????

why they use greek words in your language????

[900FPT]

A century of forced cultural assimilation will do that.

[elvuitton]

athenas82 - r u so stupied or r you just acting like this?? if you bar somebody to speak his own language, of course over the years they gonna forget this (natural process) but as stupid you r you didn't get the hang of that is not important how or what language you speak it's import what you feel, and he even may say it in GREEK words that he feel MACEDONIA and not GREEK, that wouldn't change anything!

[makedonas82]

ΜΑΚ-ΕΔΟΝΙΑ

ΜΑΚ-ΡΟΣ

ΜΑΚ-ΡΙΑ

ΜΑΚ-ΑΡΙΣΤΟΣ ΜΑΚ Η ΜΑΚΕ =ancient greek word means long

ΜΑΚ-ΑΡΟΝΙ

ΜΑΚ-ΟΣ h ΜΗΚΟΣ

WHERE ARE YOUR WORDS WITH THIS MEANING in yours language??????????

[elvuitton]

you watched too much "my big greek wedding" didn't you? we know all very well that every word raised up from greek (ancient greek) origin, that's not what you r cuz your origin is from africa (prooved twice so far). what about the sheet which has been found in greek macedonia from 2000 b.c. on which is written "Sal sas B'got na S'nceto sam" ? what does that mean on greek?? maybe u have limited access to history books bc of ur government in greece, but we in swiss have access to all historybooks!

[elvuitton]

what does "helicopter" means in greek? "helikos" =windy, spiral  "petron" = wings

does that now mean greeks invetend the Helicopter?? :-D:-D:-D no, it wasn't a greek, they have been Juan de la Cierva, Da Vinci, Louis Charles etc etc.... no Vaslis Papdopoulos:-D:-D...

[JANDAR69]

your words mean nothing in Macedonian as they are not Macedonian so therefore why should your greek words mean anything to us ?? your people tell me Macedonian means "TALL MAN " the Macedonians were tall men compared to you greeks maybe it is been taken up in your language to use this word to describe not tall man but " great man " because the Macedonian ruled over the Athenians !! thats why the LION's are on a hill in athens to show their defeat. greeks were not united still at this time !!

[JANDAR69]

hey doopy Todays greek uses Macedonian words get it through your head greek is a modern word in the times of Macedonia as a kingdom there were no GREEKS ! < this word did not exist. greeks use Macedonian in their language just like the Slavs ex.,USSR and the rest of the slavic countries !!

[makedonas82]

why the second man say the word OTI the greek word οτι ???????????????????whyy????he don't know to speak very well this ?(fake lamguage)?????

[900FPT]

That word is used in Slavic dialects are far as southern Serbia.

[JANDAR69]

in Macedonian it is OTI = why

in Greek it is YATI vre malaka

greek has Macedonian ,Italian and Turkish words in todays modern greek.

[makedonas82]

what does makedonia mean?????????????????????

[riidi]

Drzete se braka Makedonci!Nemoj da se pretopite po nikoja cena! Ke dojde i naseto vreme,ke ima podobri vreminja od ovie,ama najbitno e da se drzite! Veles e so vas! MACEDONIA FOR MACEDONIANS!

[PaunBTMakedonski]

Samo patriotizam e spas za Makedonija i Makedonskata nacija, ne cekajte od poalamentot.

Zemanje se vo svoi race .

Civija so civija se vaga

[PaunBTMakedonski]

Fuck all greeks from me too.

Long live old nations

Macedonia forever