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  • @TheDedridgerunner what?

    

  • homeless shelters my ass fuckn nyc

  • sterilize them, then work them so they can be productive

  • i just dont understand y homeless ppl or ppl who know they cant afford the kids that they have continue to have more and more and expect us to pay for it...while not even looking for a job, its nuts, really, its called abstenance

  • @66dutchy Why u gotta make a IGNORANT comment like that? MAYBE he had a job and a place to stay when his girlfriend had thier kids, and MAYBE he lost his job which would result in him losing his place...have u thought about that scenerio for 2 seconds?!?....Wow.

  • Oh, my God. This is hell on earth. Nowhere but in America can we win 300 million dollars in one multi-state lottery but still have people who are homeless. What a shame.

  • Oh, my God. This is hell on earth.

  • get a job you bum bum bum money dont grow on trees you bum bum bum ,and learn how to speak better english you bum bum bum .

  • I wonder why the wife stays with him. The guy must great in the sack, that would be the only reason she would stay with him or she has mental issues. Mother does not want her son, then he must not be a nice person. Those kids need to be taken away by the city, the guy is uncapable to make a living and provide. Why do only stupid people have babies like animals?

  • @Chismoso7 Why does a man need to be your finanical plan? IF SHE DID FOR HERSELF, instead of depending on dick.

  • @unytcommsys I am a man, but I agree with you 100%!

  • @Chismoso7 Yea. Like you know every detail of this guys life. Maybe he has mental problems. Not saying he couldn't eventually work, just needs to fix what ever it is stopping him from working. It's not all black and white. Maybe you should run for president, genius.

  • Richest country in the world?

    For who?

    Sad how life is so bitter against the have nots!

    The ones that have it all?

    I also feel sorry for.

    They will never know who their true friends are?

    So happy I'm in the middle sector!

    I have enough to have but not enough to be used! :)

  • nobody deserves to be homeless, abandon bldgs empty departments stores can be renavated for the fuckin homeless come on big apple. it can happen to any one so dont think ur exemped

    boomcc1

  • this really pissed me off, why couldn't those damn reports just give them a place to stay? have a heart for Christ sake,

  • I was under the assumption that the agencies CANNOT leave you homeless, that sounds against the law...I thought they have to find you something, cant leave you with kids on street or you could sue them. I know in one time they put me in a bedbug ridden motel in ac nj, where my children were eaten alive (one of the worst experiences of my life!!!) So glad thats over. I know have two jobs and everything is okay. I really feel for these people.

  • Uh huh the city is full of it !!! They have a babies for crying out loud. Ugh...the land of the greedy...capitalism run a mock !!!! I have no pity for the evil souls who hug their money tight....thinking that their gonna take that with them with they die. May that money be the fuel for the fire that burns their behinds in the next life !!!

  • You know what I figured out years ago. No sex and no kids means you are better of the cover your own butt. Dependents equal hindrance. Hindrance equals death!

  • if u dont have a job and ur living off people WHY ARE U GETTING PREGNANT OVER AND OVER AGAIN ?...

  • @80z90zhouzemuzicgrl I never understood that either. I've misspent money, and had a really bad relationship. I don't have kids. I have a decent job and have a been promoted twice.

  • the bad thing about it is the kid's they suffer

  • this makes me so mad how dare that mother piece of crap throw them out like that ..in the street !!!why couldnt she just take the child and turn them away //i hope he gets his shit together and one day shes out in the street and i hope that he slams the door in her face ...ur a piece of trash and u give hispanic mothers a bad rep...cabrona

  • @80z90zhouzemuzicgrl What the government understand that many people actually 'don't have anybody else'. I work with people do and have heard similar stories. What I am about to say is an observation based on my life XP. The woman he is w/ has no job, no edu, and was probably a mom in her late teens. Prime drop out material. I've met teen moms that go to school and work who are doing better than I am.

  • FUCK NEW YORK!!!

  • I feel so badly for that little girl! She should not have to pay for her parents irresponsible behaviour! These folks are bringing even MORE children into the world that they cant feed. Why does his mother not want to help? He is no innocent I suspect if his OWN MOTHER wont help him. Newsflash son, more and more of us are losing our jobs, we cant keep feeding the children you are dropping onto the backs of the dwindling work force! Contraception IS free in the U.S. why arent you using it?

  • Al Jazeera can fuck off.You have no right. Solve homelessness in your desert.

  • This is the world we live in, some people get everything more money than they need, and all the material things they can cram in to their lives, and then little kids being pushed around NYC with no home in the middle of the night, and in the richest country on Earth....makes no sense to me, I have no faith in human society anymore.

  • @rayp5 I have belief in the human being, but not faith. Too many try to simply screw over others w/o cause or need.

  • jay z and alicia keys just released a record about new y dont they donate the takings to open more shelter or 2 buy up property 4 homeless. an organisation in the uk buys up repossed home and rent them 2 families on a means test so u can pay around £5-10 aweek depending on your circumstances. uk would never allow families 2 wonder around in the night. we av supported lodging which i help 2 run if u have a spare room u can b an emergency room 4 families. it is so rewarding.

  • This is unbelievable. In the wealthiest country in the world this should not be happening.

    I agree that these people are not helping their situation by bringing yet another life into the world but those poor children shouldn't be the victims of their parents irresponsibility.

  • Its funny,(not haha)but if this guy robs a gas station the government will gladly spend tons of money locking this guy up and paying for his incarceration.

  • Yea, you'd think they'd put him in Manditory job training. LOL, no lock his ass up to give a correction officer more pay. I know for a fact they get paid very well. No the system is designed with a number of flaws.

  • The US brings democratie and phrospheraty to Irak and Afghane people.

    The US don't care about people.

    The US cares about OIL and MONEY only

  • did the reporter atleasts help them by paying them a motel for the night or just use them for the story

  • @mavely3000 EXACTLY! Thank You!

  • that is terrible - they had a child and a baby and needed warm shelter immediately

  • This is terrible...

  • This is terrible...

  • Okay I can understand homeless... WHY GET PREGNANT if you are HOMELESS, and UNEMPLOIED? The guy looks healthy okay... Get a job and support your family! I just dont get it why make more if you cant take care of what you have already?

  • Maybe she got pregnant and then they became homeless

  • They can ride the subways all night.

  • That guy looks like Eric Harris.

  • god is fukin america!!!!!!!!!!!!shit hole

  • they sent them from one place to another just to get rid of them,and his mother is so mean,

  • i saw some homeless sleeping at the airport it's so sad

  • nyc needs to open more shelters

  • No they don't some people have good 9to5 jobs are are homeless, some are homeless due to mental or physical illness, and others are just ignorant and under educated. You're just putting a band aid on a gun shoot dude. Stitch the wound.

  • stimulus package mandates 12 % food increase 4 times till October 2011

    so 48% food increase and decrease in benefits

    poor people who have no access to land or water will have no means of survival

  • do not worry government is got a nice place for you soon, it is called Fema camp . They got gas chambers poisoned GMO Monsanto  food with aspartame and MSG terrible I do not understand why people still want to come to this country

  • Switch on CNN, FOX and enjoy America fall and breakup into peices...dont forget to bring the popcorns

  • I have my updated passport. Before the US bites-the-big-one I am going to Canada or England. I have to investigate how my college education will transfer to other foreign institutions. Yes I AM VERY SERIOUS! cover your butt. On tangent I have already searched city resources for alternative housing. Thy md it vry easy via their website to search. I sggst you do the same!

  • Man. Propaganda like this really pisses me off. When will people wake up and realize that homes are not products of American consumerism. But that's fucked up. The Bronx must be run by jackasses who insist on giving people the run around. I'm glad I watched it though; first time I learned about legal hold.

  • Women and families with children are the fastest growing segments of the homeless population, and we are the only shelter in Central Florida that accepts intact families.

    I'd love to hear your input on our video and on our work!

  • So sorry but beggers are not choosers....the wife of this man should try to get along with the mother in low.....

    and he is to arrogant  let him GET A JOB , he is young and strong...... BS

  • Maybe these people should...

    a) Get jobs.

    b) Stop having kids.

    c) Get an education.

    This isn't anybody's fault but their own. These people should be shot.

  • The 3000 people who were murdered in the the twin towers had jobs. When dose the state stop murdering its own people. When you find yourself up against a wall?

    America is 9 Trillion dollars in dept. It has borrowed money from the rest of the world to conduct its war in Iraq. The cost of the war so far has cost 3 Trillion dollars. When is America going to stop borrowing from the rest of the world and start supporting itself?

  • Youre such a sad individual. Yes, I understand that there are people who abuse the system and make careers out of welfare and I also agree that she should be on some sort of birth control but do you understand that sometimes people fall on hard times? Understand that we're in a recession and more than half of Americans are a paycheck away from being homeless themselves. Have you even heard about our national foreclosure crisis?? Count your blessings!! SMH

  • easier said than done you cant be so arrogant

  • The Bronx is a shit hole.

    They should just nuke it.

    I worked at a place near Yankee Stadium and my car broken into (window smashed) and radio stolen during the fucking day!

    The next week they returned and too the rear speakers.

    It's the scumiest place in America.

  • WHAT YEAR?

  • Around 1997 I think.

    I haven't been to the Bronx since.

    I'm guessing it's probably worse, lol.

    I hate the Yankee too.

  • bronx is more safer now then it was in 1997, plus they rebuilt the yankess staduim , and plus doe the bronx is still dangerous , its more safer now lol

  • It's is not always that simple. Situations can degenerate very quickly.

  • shameless!!Bush kills his own people!!A country that is in great depth, dollar will collapse, what happens next, world war III???

    People demand your human rights!!

  • It is going to get worse, the people that

    think they have it good now will be with them

    soon.

    D E P R E S S I O N is coming

    you will never forget it as long as you live.

    It was Bastille day when they murdered JFK

    Americans have been in the twilight zone ever since.

    Americans wear a silly grin ,wave the flag ,while the gangsters that run America ,rape ,gut and loot them.

    with no more to loot in America the gangsters want the NWO in order to get it they must turn The US into the third world

  • This is just plain bullshit there future is in there own hands not the courts But both these fools will go find a cardboard box tonight and have sex probably with the kids inside. make more kids . Just take these kids and give them to a real family

  • what the fuck is your problem, you know what if you were them I'm sure you would be just as upset. Go to hell you fucking brat!(slinger777)

  • I am upset, for there children. If you would just go back and look at the video one more time and think about it you would think the same way and ya I would be just as upset if i was in there shoes so I would go and get a job and take care of my family. and if my little girl ever talks like you I will wash her mouth out with soap or spank her so she wont grow up to be a slutty little brat

  • ı live in NYC the rent is crazy out here jobs dont pay much most of ur check will go to rent and thats all America The Land Of The Free

  • Endentured Servants. You only now chose were you serve. You have to ask yourself what will it cost to cover my needed expenses? Then ask yourself what can you do without?

  • this is so sad it makes me want to cry how much people dont care about homeless people,i feel sad 4 the kids.

  • Got Jesus Christ Yet? You poor now, you own the kingdom of Heaven later.

  • @Shottymad Yea, well I'd prefer not spending 60 to 100 years in shit prior, thank you.

  • You have to be rich to survive in NYC. The huge demand in housing raises rent prices and because of this a lot of poor people get evicted because they get afford it.

  • 1) They can find affordable housing if they know where to look.

    2) They lack employment.

    3) They probably don't have the education and/or training to find a better job. In my experience.

  • But they still need a place to live. It's not fair to the children who have to walk around at night in the cold. Its fucked up!

  • The family has no responsibility, can't even manage the welfare they received. Children should be placed in a foster home because the "parents" are not doing any good! I am sure he spent the rent check on a new pair of sneakers; he could pass a homeless person. If they are that desperate, he should join the army, the children and mate will be well taken care of.

  • The family needs help. This is America. The woman needs help with getting an education and a good paying job. The father also needs the same thing. There are organizations out there to help people get on their feet. Did you see him spend the rent check on a new pair of sneakers? Who should place the children in foster care? Are you suggesting, ACS has the right to take away children, because the parents are having a hard time? Are the children abused, hungry, dirty, left alone, abandoned? Not!

  • Joining the army is the most sensible thing you said. However, it is a matter of choice. After the Bush administration, who the heck wants to join the friggin army? I think the shelter should be available to those in need, once a need has been established, there should be conditions to living in shelter like, free childcare, while you go to school to get certificate of some sort, job and interview training, and a job upon completion. You fuck up you get out, simple. You get to keep your benefits

  • If he qualifies. I forget if they even take people w/o GED or High School anymore.

  • @adrock1895 No, you do not. Goto NYC and look up the housing links. There are tone of programs based on income to find housing. I keep those links updated just in case I lose my home.

  • I live in NYC the rent is crazy out here jobs dont pay much most of ur check will go to rent and thats all America The Land Of The Free

    My azz

  • @jamil316 True, skills and education is the key to survival.

  • It's bad,when even some family turns away their own family.

  • It's terrible that people don't have a place to live, but:

    NYC rents start at around $1500 a month.

    That first couple was pregnant with a THIRD child.

    Maybe they ought to consider another location to live and raise a family considering the cost of New York and I'm sorry but what are they thinking when they get pregnannt in that situation? That being said, they deserve shelter until they can get it together, cuz we give welfare to rich corporations in this country.

  • Yea companies can knowingly screw over the world and still get a $1,000,000,000s. So helping out the poor is not a bad idea and for the same reasons.

  • Wow I can't believe how many insensitive people there are out there...

  • AlJazeera says their future is in the hands of the police and the shelters. I say their future is in their own hands.

    Get a job.

  • For those that think all Americans live lavishly and have it well, welcome to the other side of capitalism.

  • Thats right not everone can be well off or money means nothing and what fun is world were you don't have to earn anything.

  • You can't take drugs in homeless shelters. The children should be taken away until the parents can raise children.

  • I know lets steel it from the working poor and give it to him.

  • people get a JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jobs are controlled by White European descendant of Europe. Rich People who don't want to make equality for everyone. Backward thinking puts more people in prison this is old history damn. Affirmative Action aint doing shit look at the Jail population to kick the FACTS.

  • DonFamoso,

    Yes these rich white European descendants that you speak of don't want this man to get a minimum wage job and cut into the rich white Eurpeons weekend job. The system can it ever be broken down. There are jobs maybe not the best but with no education or no desire to improve ones self, sorry that's it

    And how is affirmative action supposed to lower crime? I am a bit hazing on that

  • I have no sympathy on this lazy guy. Is his only job just making babies? OMG........

    Even many "illegal" immigrants can find jobs and feed and shelter themselves.

    Sad....

  • Just because he doesn't have a job doesn't mean he's lazy. Getting a job in the us is getting harder thanks to the economy.

  • I concurr.

  • CAN MAKE 3 babies, but can't afford to pay a shelter and jobless?

    He need some donation, CONDOMS !

    Geezz.......

  • Condoms and some BRAINS might help.

  • that's gold. I agree...useless people and irresponsible parents

  • I would have said irresponsible people and useless parents.

  • and billions going down a rat hole in iraq

  • Go to the white house they have plenty of rooms there. Or go to one of the Mansions they have in Beverly Hills. Those cocksuckers hidding in huge houses that they don't even stay in. Go In front of the White House and protest!!! In front of it!!!!

  • Sorry, but this couple should not be having kids. No job, no home, and they have another baby on the way. That baby will get delivered on the taxpayers dime, and it will help bring another ER down to its knees so no one in the area gets emergency care. People should have to go on birth control if they agree to take free care.

  • The hospital isn't going to lose a dime because they are delivering that kid. Hospitals overcharge ridiculously. Besides, why don't we have free health care?

    The issue isn't with healthcare, it's with poverty.

  • w1sh8 -

    please research ER closures online. also, who do you think pays for people who don't have health insurance?

    this young couple has a 3rd child on the way & no jobs. totally irresponsible. many middle class families don't even have that many kids in the US. if there are so many jobs for illegals here, they should be able to find jobs too.

  • Health care in America is a problem. A separate problem.

  • I just do not understand one thing: People from around the world spend thousands of dollars just to enter the US so that they can find some job to make money and pay the debt back, and in fact I heard many are very successful in this. But I do not underatand this couple, why don't they just say: I am fucking lazy and do not want to work. Besides, go to Florida or somewhere warmer before your children get sick.

  • Fatkhulla, those who are "very successful in doing this" arrive in US with intellectual capital - education - they acquired either as the rich of poor societies or as members of more equalitarian societies where adequate free education is everybody's lot. They use that education to their advantage in the elitist US society, which is NOT giving adequate education to its poor and utilizes the education as means to reinforce and legitimize inequalities. Cut that bullshit with the indolent poor.

  • That's not always true. Many come with no English and little education and are still successful. My dry cleaner came from Korea with nothing and today is very rich. He worked very hard in many different jobs. That's all it took him. I went to school, studied, and today have a good job. That's all it took me.

  • I work a job I don't like, but I don't blame the system. My failure, my defeat. First rule is don't have more mouths to feed. This isn't feudalism where you need more bodies to work the land and whatnot.

  • That's horrible... Merry fuckin' Christmas.

  • Of course it's not the individual's responsibility to provide for his family. Why is the government to blame for this? The only tragedy that I can see here is that this family continues to have children while they are on the down and out. Is it not enough that one child suffers this way. People need to stop relaying on the government for everything that's not how our nation is meant to work. Hence capitalism.

  • I just wanted to add that they lived at that shelter for 2 months.

  • miketwhitman1

    I respect your value in personal responsibility.

    But what works for you, does not work for all. And there are many, many out there who have NOTHING, or next to it. To assume that people choose a life like that is, well, obscene.

    Human interactions, relations, and lives are not so simple as either the state, law, or even our personal convictions might wish them to be.

    -Qes

  • It's not "obscene". It's actually very common in economically depressed areas for people to not even attempt to work or do better for themselves because they won't be paid enough.

    Happens all the time here in Kentucky. I know all kinds of homeless people who are homeless as a form of rebelling against every employer around here paying minimum wage.

  • I see.. How much does it cost to get an apartment in NY? Could they save that in 2 months working $6/hr jobs? If so how long would they hold said apartment before they couldn't afford it anymore? Could they afford to move to a less expensive place to live?

    Does anyone know if they were even trying to work???

    If not, and they're both not disabled, someone should take those kids and kick them out.

  • I am certain that low income housing in New York would be very affordable for this family. They have one child and another on the way. A $6/hr job would be able to afford it. And I am sure that a man his age with children would qualify for state run education or vocational training. This is the type of system I support. One in which you choose to teach a person to fish instead of giving him a fish.

  • Though this is true it does not change the fact that there are poeple that need help now. I belive the 'right' to blame the government comes from the fact that they set up these services and then deny use of them for arbitrary or inhumane reasons.

  • Everything is situational. It's the governments responsibility to provide services to help out people in need - hence taxes. But I also think if the government makes an attempt to help and someone is too lazy to better their situation, they shouldn't keep receiving help that someone else in need could use.

  • w1sh8

    So those who are "too lazy" deserve death?

    They deserve no help - and if they die because of it, "they'd best do it and decrease the surplus population?"

    Your values apply to YOU alone. Imposing them on others is a form of tyranny. You need not be compassionate, but do not insist that those of us who can be, and will use government funds to do so, need listen to callous, mis-diagnosed "pragmatism."

    -Qes

  • I dont disagree with you in one regard: that those who are in the "most" need, need to be prioritized first. With that I've no contention, but I react (sometimes overly harshly) to any justifications (real or imagined) of Social Darwinism.

    Apologies if I came off unjustly harsh.

    -Qes

  • Happy fucking Holiday's...

    Peace on Earth and good will towards man.

    Now go buy something...

  • I can't believe that people are still blaming Muslims for Aljazeera..... why don't you guys start taking responsibility's for your own government actions, go get your self insurance or get your ass hole government to give some of what they steel from our IRAQ petrol and gold , you have no hart for your own people who were left HOMLESS , go help them before you try to blame Muslims, Jews or Aljazeera for your problems try to make a change by helping some homeless in your stupid country

  • America is not perfect, this is for sure, but can you honestly say that about all of us?! That's like me saying all Muslims are terrorists, which I know is not true.

    This video has made me a subscriber to this channel.

  • Here's a thought, and bare with me - it might just be crazy.

    AJ English knows its audience. I.e. English speakers. They're trying to break into an American audience (How capitalistic of them).

    America has issues with poverty reaching levels unimaginable in a first world country, AND has a tradition during the Christmas holiday of reflecting on giving and compassion.

    AJ notes this, and does a legitimate peice on poverty at Christmas time.

    Think - then voice.

    -Qes

  • By the way in regard to joblessness has Robert T. Kiyosaki's Cashflow quadrant or any other entrepreneurship become a part of US curriculum?

  • ????? WTF? what does that have to do with ANYTHING

  • WTF does one man who cannot manage a family have to do with anything? She is pregnant? Really?

  • Why am i not surprised that Aljazeera did not show how the man then walked into a church and ate a dinner provided by the charity workers?

  • then he should get on his knees and kiss the president and thank the government

  • Thank God for Aljazeera! At least we get to see our country for what it really is.

  • I feel for them, yet, living in NYC is not something I recommend for anyone, no matter what your income.

  • Wow got to love social programs and socialism, isn't it grand!? Yeah trust your government to take care of you from cradle to grave!

    NOT!

  • this is the exact oppossite of socialism; it is the government denying the people because it allows finance and companies to exploit freely then fails in its role to safeguard and service the people. the government is still in control of social programs, they simply direct money away from the people and to the private dictators that run the economy and essentially own the political elites, who work as advocates for big-money elites. government needs to be accountable to the people in the US.

  • the state is the only way to do that right now; but it needs a functioning democracy first, and real choices between candidates that are accountable and outside of the two corrupt big-money parties. choice needs to based on policy and not the advertisement campains created by the corporate media.

  • Not! It is the Neo-Con pull yourself up by your fucking boots straps even if you don't have any, tax cuts for the rich and the anti-social program funding for "WE" the People, but we can spend 2 billion a month in Iraq to make For Profit Defence Industry billionaries with our tax money that could be used for "We" the People to help those in need you fucking jackass! People like you make me fucking sick!

  • Impossible! I can not believe it. It's in New York, it's in America, people where want to lead the world! What happened to the society you are always be proud of?

  • A lot of the homeless have mental illness and have no family that would take them in. In major cities they tend to congregate for social services such as food/shelter, but donations of food and money have waned in recent years and this is the result. New York has really high housing prices so there will always be a homeless population, its particularly sad to see innocent children involved though. Especially when so many in New York are extremely affluent.

  • This is a crying shame.

    Merry Christmas indeed.

  • It's been this bad in New York for an extremely long time, it has just got much worse since Bush stole the presidency. I think I'm gonna run for mayor and stop the a hole corporations from abusing the people, cause it's just not right. The rich a holes that do this kind of stuff to poor and middle class, don't have any humanity.

  • If the shelter can't help they can't help. If they didn't want to help they wouldn't have set the shelter up in the first place.

  • This is disgraceful.

  • kicked them out .they must get a senses of responsiblity

  • There are two children...

  • yeah,we also don't know the whole story. There's a reason why people can't live with family members and friends. Often its often because of drugs and them stealing from loved ones to get more drugs.

    There are many reasons why they could have been kicked out of the shelter too. If you're using drugs there you get kicked out.

  • Well said. What is the whole story?

  • Well pointed out EvilMuppet.

    Those who make claims of "whole story" - themselves assume some trend of "legitimate" reasons to be callous toward a homeless family.

    I mean, if one can find a reason not to care that one can live with - they latch on to it. Barring that, one invents reasons.

    Despite the fact that it's transparent as hell.

    -Qes

  • His own mother doesn't want him. Go and figure that one out. Why are these people reproducing in the first place?

  • You're right flyingbird, I mean, how dare they experience Love or affection or deem it acceptable to be intimate with other poor people?

    How dare they presume that procreation is acceptable when they cannot afford condoms.

    How dare they believe that their feelings, their troubles, and their lives are in some way equal to those of us who have more money.

    If you're poor and have personal problems, you're not allowed to behave like other humans until your not poor.

    -Qes

    [/angry sarcasm]

  • Have you been to NYC? Condoms are available for free in many places: high schools, planned parenthood, bars (both gays and straights), and other locations).

    As mentioned, his own mother doesn't want him. Why is that? Is she an evil bitch?

  • My point is you know nothing about the situation.

    But you assume that the tensions are his fault. While you believe that I assume they are hers. When in fact I'm merely suggesting that we've no right to judge, one way or the other.

    -Qes

  • It's true we don't know enough about the situation. They never interviewed the people making decisions at the shelter.

    I've spend too much time in shelters. Every homeless person has a story and in the end they are always the victim and innocent. You can't believe everything they tell you.

  • QuasiEvilScott, you're are being quite unreasonable. Why on earth would you continue to reproduce when you're homeless? That just doesn't make any sense. Why bring another child into poverty. That's so selfish.

  • You connect reproduction, love, and all that comes with it, with poverty - which is a condition in which people exist. These things are not directly tied - and if you're assuming that love, in any capasity, is logical, then you are a robot.

    It's true, robots should not be manufactured if they're a burden to an industry. People, well, they're different.

    -Qes

  • Stop with the ridiculous comparison. It's unreasonable to have a child in extreme poverty. These people don't even have homes, hence the term homeless. If they were living in the projects that would of been a different story.

  • "Unreasonable" what makes you think anything to do with love is ever "reasonable?"

    You assign value to economic solvency. That makes you biased at best, a Social Darwinist at worst.

    -Qes

  • Ok so in your opinion it is reasonable to have a child in extreme poverty, fine. You talk a great game, but I highly doubt you'll be having 3 kids while you yourself don't have a home. I assume your responsible, you know better. Deep down inside you want everyone to be happy, fine, but you have to draw the line.

  • How do you propose drawing that line? Forbidding people to have children?

    My point is not that it's reasonable, only that reasonability doesnt ever enter the question.

    I'm not claiming its wise, prudent, or any of the other nice logical terms we can use. I'm saying those logical processes of thought ARE NEVER included in the propagation of love.

    I dont know how many times I can say this. Logic is nice - but it's got nothing to do with love.

    -Qes

  • you sound like Tina Turner

  • There are many ways to engage in sexual activity and not have kids. If two people don't want to use contraception when they are in economic hardship then that's their fault. Condoms are available in the poorest of hoods in NYC. Becoming poor after the kid is one thing, having a kid while poor is just a bad decision.

  • Peace and Love Come Through Togetherness.

    together We Can and Will Fix It All.

  • GOD BLESS AMERICA. #1! USA USA USA!

  • That's Christmas spirit - the American way.

  • No room at the inn, come Christmas time in the KKKristian Nation, eh? Why am I not surprised?

  • welcome to America!!!! if you don't have money, piss off!!!

  • Absolutely disgraceful that these shelters would turn away a family with two small children. The system is messed up...we need to do a better job of taking care of the homeless.

  • to show the success of capitalism!1 long live COMMUNISM you fools!!!

  • Here's to you, Nicola and Bart

    Rest forever here in our hearts

    The last and final moment is yours

    That agony is your triumph

    ~peace