I never liked geos for the c64. It was painfully slow with a 1541 and just frustrated me. Geos 128 was much better, took advantage of a higher res screen and i believe HD support. Of course, few bothered as the hot new computer called the Amiga was out by then.
Geos is one of the software I received when buying one C-64. I liked it and it was like the Apple IIc operating system. For the time this was great for working with the C-64 computer. I still hope the programs I have on floppies still work and is not bad so I can move them to a CD.
Geos is one of the software I received when buying one C-64. I liked it and it was like the Apple IIc operating system. For the time this was great for working with the C-64 computer.
How did you get the cursor to work? I found a copy online of the .d64 image of GEOS and another with the "driver" for the joystick. How did you figure it out?/Which file did you use in this emulation?
I don't remember it being that slow on my 64 then 128 but damn was it a fun system to use. Spent many hours writing in GeoWrite. Thanks for the trip down memory lane
I used to have this program back in the day when I was in high school. All we had at school were Radio Shack's TRS-80's ("trash 80's as we called them). I showed mu teacher the manuals and some sample printouts and she couldn't believe it.
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
And 4:26... 1986? 1988? Not even close. Try AmigaOS/Atari GEM 1985, MacOS 1984, LisaOS 1983, PC GEM 198?, Xerox Parc in the 70s. Still, on this evidence, GeOS is pretty amazing for the date and hardware. Certainly kicks hell out of GEM on 512k+ machines. Probably only a little behind Amiga/Mac...
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
And 4:26... 1986? 1988? Not even close. Try AmigaOS/Atari GEM 1985, MacOS 1984, LisaOS 1983, PC GEM 198?, Xerox Parc in the 70s. Still, on this evidence, GeOS is pretty amazing for the date and hardware. Certainly kicks hell out of GEM. Probably only a little behind Amiga & Mac...
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
I had had the Final Cartridge III with a GUI that looked almost the same, except it had a purple background. It would load instantly since it was stored in the Cartridge ROM and not on diskette.
Back in the early 1990s we used Commodore 64 + GEOS and GeoWrite to write our school "newspaper". We were impressed by proportional fonts, and the ability to put simple graphics into documents. It was working VERY slowly (almost all operations required floppy-disk access, which was pain in the ass on C64), and it allowed us to miss some classes ;)
I had a C64 and this came with it. I just wanted to search it out for old memories. Thanks for uploading. I even had a mouse for it that cost me $60 at the time and had to order it in the mail (before internet lol).
I still have 2 Commodore 64 computers which works along with the floppy drive, joysticks, modem, and plenty of software. GEOS is one of the software packages which I have for this computer. I also have some magazines from the 1980's which has programs in them along with one book with programs. I love that computer and GEOS was fantastic also.
i'm guessing that you are moving the pointer with a joystick and not a mouse. trying to move the pointer in a circle always produced a bunch of concentric squares. great vid...thanks for the flashback.
One minute and sixteen seconds to load GEOS. (More like 1:30 to be usable) If you think about it, that's not really that bad. If I run uptime from the terminal in Fedora (Linux) I see that my PC has been on for 35 days so far so I can't think of how long it takes my PC to boot but really, it seems like it takes a lot longer to boot than a modern OS because theres no graphic or indication that anything is making progress.
One minute and sixteen seconds to load GEOS. (More like 1:30 to be usable) If you think about it, that's not really that bad. If I run uptime from the terminal in Fedora (Linux) I see that my PC has been on for 35 days so far so I can't think of how long it takes my PC to boot but really, it seems like it takes a lot longer to boot than a modern OS because theres no graphic or indication that anything is making progress.
Also, people tend to take their boot time from the time that the Windows loading screen first appears. If you consider it from the second you hit the power button, add another 10-15 seconds, sometimes 30 on computers that have branded BIOSes and such.
If you turn on the C64 and quickly type load "geos",8,1 then it's really not much slower.
I used GEOS for a while, was only good for the wordprocessor, and then I went back to SpeedScript punched in via hexcode from Compute magazine. Speedscript rocked. This is what you used when you lusted for a $2000 Mac Plus, but could only afford a $70 copy of C=64 geos. Poor mans Mac clone basically. Using it with the Atari style joystick pretty much ruined the experience, would of been nearly useful with two drives and the Geomouse.
where did u get the copy of GEOS ?? I have the c64 emulator ..the GEOS for the PC was the first true multitasking OS.. Windows couldn't do multitasking and Windows took more resources.. GEOS was preloaded on a couple PCs but Microsoft had the money and OEM manufactures
@TheLastBrainLeft Maybe the Amiga had a system clock, but the Commodore 64 didn't, there's a software clocfk in GEOS, but no clock within the system, there's no provision for a battery to keep the clock going when you turn off the power, I'm sure you could add something my modifying the system if you really want to.
GEOS was awesome these days. i still have the original disk from the 80's. disk full, of course. i remember to use geopaint or geowrite you have to format extra disks for that ^^
The fact that the C64 was capable of running GEOS always amazed me, in fact it worked very well and rivalled Apples offerings of the time for a fraction of the price.
It was a lot of computer despite its limited specs compared to the competion.
Man, I love the ol 64, I need to pull mine out of storage , hook it up and see if I can get it to run again. Geos didn't interest me much as a kid (though I loved to play with paint which on windows, I still do to this day :P, but that was my extent of playing with GEOS, good memories.
What EMU are you using? I've tried several (cause I know a little Basic, and wanted to dabble in programming) but I can't find a 64 emulator that works.
I guess I'm in the minority because I HATED GEOS. It was useless for running anything buy GEOS programs of which there were probably less than a dozen. Using it with a single floppy drive was a nightmare. It used its own file format so you could only copy GEOS files with GEOS, which required about 50 disk swaps to copy a single file.
I liked the fancy fonts in GEOWrite, after the laborious process of copying the ones you wanted to use onto the same disk as the program!
Yeah, using the GEOS with a single 1541 was a pain in the heck, but I tried it with 2 1541 and I can assure you it was FAST and powerful at the same time! Truly usable too.
GEOS was no use without a second floppy 1541 drive. You have to get the TopDesk (with several movable windows) want to see C64 & GEOS at its best. Using a RamLink speeded it up even more.
When the C64 runs in its normal mode, the 8k required for the BASIC language is ROM that maskes the RAM that would otherwise be there. That 8k of RAM could be switched in (It is called bank-switching), but you had better not be in BASIC at the time or you will crash. The same goes for the other ROM areas required after a normal startup.
GEOS is basically just a clone of the 1984 Macintosh OS, but where the Mac needed 256k of memory, the programmers were able to squeeze Commodore's GUI into just 1/4 that size.
It was far worse on the A3000, which did have a clock...the battery was soldered onto the main logic board and often exploded. Either way, was a pain to replace or solder on a socket.
Early PC's were the same, although I did not hear of too many exploding batteries.
I did have a mouse that went into the Joy port on the C64. I just remember thinking about the ways to abuse the 1541 drive - it had its own 6502 and only a few k of RAM.
I remember using this with a Commodore Mouse and a centronics dot-matrix printer for Uni stuff in '92! I think it only crashed once. There was a Geos UK user group as well at the time.
My school library computers ran Geos. Windows 3.0 was already out there, but I guess the school techie figured out Geos would be cheaper. I think it was called GeoWorks by then.
Geos was cool, but as I recall there was a major licensing dispute with another company who owned a significant % of it and Commador. As a result it was killed off and the C64 went the same way shortly thereafter. It's been YEARS, so my memory is fuzzy... but it was cool in it's day....
I remember WAY BACK renting software for my C64. The guy behind the counter one day handed me a disk with a 'wink, wink" and said "Try this, see if you like it."
It was GEOS and for the time, I thought it was very cool.
man for a 64K system it ran a graphical user interface very well. I used to use the word proceesor to write science fiction stories lol. It was the first time i was introduced to the concept of fonts.
Was even a lot nicer than Windows 1+2. Actually, there was a clock that you could use with the Commodore 64, i even had one that synced to the radio time signal. Also with a modified Diskdrive that was somehow connected to the expansion slot loading times where much better. Oh well, ok, my C64 looked like frankenstein, but that was one of the things that rocked about those computers - don't like something? Get your soldering iron.
i believe geos originally ran from a cartridge that added extra memory and supplied an instant boot (didn't take time to boot). The slow disk-version was a cracked version I believe.
I think your right. I think I may mixed it up with "the final cartrige". But I do remember working with Geos and yeah, I remember some disks for it now that I think about it.
Your vid made me curious so I unpacked my old 128 beauty and fired it up and it still works. Even more astonishing, the 5 1/4" floppies still held their data after 15 years. I've had plenty of diskettes from just a few years ago go bad on me.
The other memory in the address space was used for the Kernel & BASIC interpreter. They could be disabled to acquire back the entire 64K in the address map.
You got all the memory, but on startup it ran BASIC which took up almost 1/2 of it. You could over-write this memory with an entirely different program, even another BASIC.
GeoPublish did an amazing amount of what a PC DTP program did AND it was a 99K program that ran in a 64K computer! Plus, at that time, PCs didn't have clocks! Now just to drop your jaw, PC XTs didn't have BIOSes!
Graphic Environment Operating System. Oh yes. I love this great machine. Although Geos was quite clearly influenced by Mac OS and spurred on by the mouse-fuelled Amiga.
Fantastic efficiency in programming and hardware resources. Especially considering that IBM compatibles at the time were monochrome text only and only capable of squeaks & bops. If only MS or Apple could match that efficiency modern machines would be out of this world - or better - if only Commodore had had MS's marketing people.
I loved using GEOS and GEOS128 for the Commodore 128 was brilliant as well. These were full WYSIWYG systems complete with word processor, database, spreadsheet, cut/copy/paste, proportional & scalable fonts, graphics, stereo 3voice sound, fax & network capable all running on 64Kb RAM(32kb available to programs) and a 370Kb floppy disk.
I wonder how did they do that with just 64K Ram and now you need at least 1 GB for the ¨New¨ Vista to work the way it should... Imagine what would they had done with todays computers...
oh my god, things are more advanced now. way more advanced. but then again when you've never had any kind of computer before, this was probably pretty cool?
I´ll remember C= 64 and all my friends in my home. Geos was the revolution. Now I´m 39 and never forget all the computer and comunications evolutions.
I have to say this was the first video i've ever seen that I've got up and left the computer while it's playing and not missed a thing. I was literaly playing the theme to jeopardy in my head. Instant 5 Stars
and again, i favo`d layda
shicetube 2 weeks ago
Sweet Memories...thanks for Posting this video.
LifeInNewOrleans 3 months ago
GEOS was amazing to me..... Commodore 64 baby...... 1982-1989 (for me)
LifeInNewOrleans 3 months ago
why don't they take the delay out of the emulators ?? they can load at present hardware speed.. btw BUT OUT THAT CIGARETTE !
xadam2dudex 4 months ago
I didnt have a mouse so i use with jostick, 25 years later my commodore still works
dzonikg 4 months ago
This was the OS to have if you ever owned a C64.
megamanfan3 5 months ago
I never liked geos for the c64. It was painfully slow with a 1541 and just frustrated me. Geos 128 was much better, took advantage of a higher res screen and i believe HD support. Of course, few bothered as the hot new computer called the Amiga was out by then.
oldtwins 6 months ago
Could you give me a link to download this Google that you speak of?
HerecomestheCalavera 6 months ago
it looks really beautiful compared to the contemporary bling bling round edges all colors of the rainbow - gui's
stikowsky 6 months ago
Geos is one of the software I received when buying one C-64. I liked it and it was like the Apple IIc operating system. For the time this was great for working with the C-64 computer. I still hope the programs I have on floppies still work and is not bad so I can move them to a CD.
semco72057 8 months ago
Geos is one of the software I received when buying one C-64. I liked it and it was like the Apple IIc operating system. For the time this was great for working with the C-64 computer.
semco72057 8 months ago
How did you get the cursor to work? I found a copy online of the .d64 image of GEOS and another with the "driver" for the joystick. How did you figure it out?/Which file did you use in this emulation?
16mmDJ 8 months ago
A complete Macintosh clone for C64!
tweetyaja 8 months ago
I don't remember it being that slow on my 64 then 128 but damn was it a fun system to use. Spent many hours writing in GeoWrite. Thanks for the trip down memory lane
Coasterdude02149 8 months ago
I used to have this program back in the day when I was in high school. All we had at school were Radio Shack's TRS-80's ("trash 80's as we called them). I showed mu teacher the manuals and some sample printouts and she couldn't believe it.
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1:31 ... hahaha :D
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
And 4:26... 1986? 1988? Not even close. Try AmigaOS/Atari GEM 1985, MacOS 1984, LisaOS 1983, PC GEM 198?, Xerox Parc in the 70s. Still, on this evidence, GeOS is pretty amazing for the date and hardware. Certainly kicks hell out of GEM on 512k+ machines. Probably only a little behind Amiga/Mac...
TahreyUK 10 months ago
1:31 ... hahaha :D
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
And 4:26... 1986? 1988? Not even close. Try AmigaOS/Atari GEM 1985, MacOS 1984, LisaOS 1983, PC GEM 198?, Xerox Parc in the 70s. Still, on this evidence, GeOS is pretty amazing for the date and hardware. Certainly kicks hell out of GEM. Probably only a little behind Amiga & Mac...
TahreyUK 10 months ago
1:31 ... hahaha :D
I've been thinking of setting up a side-by-side race of my XP workstation and some old 8-bitters. Seeing as you can get WP, email and simple web browsers for them... which will win?
TahreyUK 10 months ago
I had had the Final Cartridge III with a GUI that looked almost the same, except it had a purple background. It would load instantly since it was stored in the Cartridge ROM and not on diskette.
Wochensau 10 months ago
I had Geos, what amazing times I had... Geopublisher, made a little newspaper.. I bought a mouse for this OS, and for Arkanoid of course !!
Stiromouse 11 months ago
I remember this. Of course, I only ever played with Geopaint... I was a kid. Operating systems confused me.
samthelinuxnoob 1 year ago
Back in the early 1990s we used Commodore 64 + GEOS and GeoWrite to write our school "newspaper". We were impressed by proportional fonts, and the ability to put simple graphics into documents. It was working VERY slowly (almost all operations required floppy-disk access, which was pain in the ass on C64), and it allowed us to miss some classes ;)
argoneum 1 year ago
Please stop asking me for links and downloads. It will never happen... Learn to use Google!
sm0k3ymcl3ud 1 year ago 9
@sm0k3ymcl3ud cbmfiles. com/geos/index. php for GEOS files - free and legal
fubecafy 1 month ago
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imccoury 1 year ago
can you upload the rom?
santiagopereyra1x 1 year ago
can you upload the rom?
santiagopereyra1x 1 year ago
Is this C64 or C64C?
MrHappyTurtle1 1 year ago
Is there a rom download somewhere ?
wingnut4427 1 year ago
I had a C64 and this came with it. I just wanted to search it out for old memories. Thanks for uploading. I even had a mouse for it that cost me $60 at the time and had to order it in the mail (before internet lol).
anthritVlog 1 year ago
I still have 2 Commodore 64 computers which works along with the floppy drive, joysticks, modem, and plenty of software. GEOS is one of the software packages which I have for this computer. I also have some magazines from the 1980's which has programs in them along with one book with programs. I love that computer and GEOS was fantastic also.
semco72057 1 year ago
i'm guessing that you are moving the pointer with a joystick and not a mouse. trying to move the pointer in a circle always produced a bunch of concentric squares. great vid...thanks for the flashback.
GreatNorthWeb 1 year ago
Lol my os is better
gruntlover2 1 year ago
I used to use this. Still have it! Loved it!
elgatoshadow 1 year ago
The load time was not too bad if you had never experienced any better.
Washu1973 1 year ago
Nach Loading ein programmstart ohne RUN befehl?
FAKE
Goasler 1 year ago
@Goasler We've had games load from tape.. original ones often loaded without RUN.
necromncr 1 year ago
Lol! 2:00, now GEOS thinks it's 1907.
ross817 1 year ago
Lol! 2:00, apparently GEOS doesn't suffer from the Y2K bug.
ross817 1 year ago
Worked with that back to the late eighties and early nineties. First had GEOS 1.2 (gray color), then GEOS 2.0 (with the white and green colors).
Good ol' time!
HellYeahhhhhh 1 year ago
Good ol' GEOS. Such an awesome OS for its time. I have a GEOS running on my Omnigo PDA. video here: /watch?v=ABkfoD0SmAk
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One minute and sixteen seconds to load GEOS. (More like 1:30 to be usable) If you think about it, that's not really that bad. If I run uptime from the terminal in Fedora (Linux) I see that my PC has been on for 35 days so far so I can't think of how long it takes my PC to boot but really, it seems like it takes a lot longer to boot than a modern OS because theres no graphic or indication that anything is making progress.
LanIost 1 year ago
One minute and sixteen seconds to load GEOS. (More like 1:30 to be usable) If you think about it, that's not really that bad. If I run uptime from the terminal in Fedora (Linux) I see that my PC has been on for 35 days so far so I can't think of how long it takes my PC to boot but really, it seems like it takes a lot longer to boot than a modern OS because theres no graphic or indication that anything is making progress.
LanIost 1 year ago
Also, people tend to take their boot time from the time that the Windows loading screen first appears. If you consider it from the second you hit the power button, add another 10-15 seconds, sometimes 30 on computers that have branded BIOSes and such.
If you turn on the C64 and quickly type load "geos",8,1 then it's really not much slower.
LanIost 1 year ago
Looks like a copy of the old MacOS but not as nice.
Danny77uk 1 year ago
this is a good emulator it makes it look like a real C-64
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
Looks and acts like the classic Apple Mac OS
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harleykman 1 year ago
Where did you get your disk image of GEOS?
16mmDJ 1 year ago
I remember using this as a kid. Writing a journal in it. I still have it somewhere.
DrLight9 1 year ago
Cool video, however the audio is quite low. :) Imagine if this had caught on?
kumbah2006 1 year ago
sys 64738
crazyleg2006 1 year ago
I used GEOS for a while, was only good for the wordprocessor, and then I went back to SpeedScript punched in via hexcode from Compute magazine. Speedscript rocked. This is what you used when you lusted for a $2000 Mac Plus, but could only afford a $70 copy of C=64 geos. Poor mans Mac clone basically. Using it with the Atari style joystick pretty much ruined the experience, would of been nearly useful with two drives and the Geomouse.
cobrachoppergirl 1 year ago
@cobrachoppergirl
I would have preferred the vastly superior and much cheaper Amiga to the Mac Plus
P5BDeluxeWiFi 1 year ago
How did you get the mouse to work in the emulator? With the emulator I use, I can't find a way to get the mouse to work.
SathingtonWaltz 1 year ago
Still better than Windows...
blacbraun 2 years ago 4
The classic loading time. =D
TheEventMaker 2 years ago
Considering it's running on a (emulated) 1MHz 8 bit cpu & 64K of memory that is very fast.
LinuxRaymaker 2 years ago
the reason there was a clock errot is that the c64 had noncmos battery witch works as battery backup random access memory
mybetamax1 2 years ago
where did u get the copy of GEOS ?? I have the c64 emulator ..the GEOS for the PC was the first true multitasking OS.. Windows couldn't do multitasking and Windows took more resources.. GEOS was preloaded on a couple PCs but Microsoft had the money and OEM manufactures
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
Commodore's did have a built in clock, it simply re-set when you powered off.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 years ago
@TheLastBrainLeft Maybe the Amiga had a system clock, but the Commodore 64 didn't, there's a software clocfk in GEOS, but no clock within the system, there's no provision for a battery to keep the clock going when you turn off the power, I'm sure you could add something my modifying the system if you really want to.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
The Commodore 64 did have an internal clock, it could be accessed via the TI$ character string.
PRINT TI$
020444 (2:44 AM and 44 seconds)
TI$="220000" (sets clock to 10 PM)
The problem was that the clock reset every time you powered off.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 years ago
@Lachlant1984 that's what he said. without a battery, it resets. The thing can still keep time.
deathclock9 1 year ago
GEOS was awesome these days. i still have the original disk from the 80's. disk full, of course. i remember to use geopaint or geowrite you have to format extra disks for that ^^
CRYP77 2 years ago
is there GEOS for MS-DOS. I have MS-DOS 6.22 installed on a Virtual PC. I would like to try out GEOS.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
they made a version for the PC so if u can find it u might be able to use it
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
I have six Commodore 64 , i am a collector :) this emulator is more slow than original C64 with Fastload cart :)
Greetings
nopochoclos 2 years ago
The fact that the C64 was capable of running GEOS always amazed me, in fact it worked very well and rivalled Apples offerings of the time for a fraction of the price.
It was a lot of computer despite its limited specs compared to the competion.
waydeewaydee 2 years ago
Man, I love the ol 64, I need to pull mine out of storage , hook it up and see if I can get it to run again. Geos didn't interest me much as a kid (though I loved to play with paint which on windows, I still do to this day :P, but that was my extent of playing with GEOS, good memories.
What EMU are you using? I've tried several (cause I know a little Basic, and wanted to dabble in programming) but I can't find a 64 emulator that works.
Esternamornezz 2 years ago
I guess I'm in the minority because I HATED GEOS. It was useless for running anything buy GEOS programs of which there were probably less than a dozen. Using it with a single floppy drive was a nightmare. It used its own file format so you could only copy GEOS files with GEOS, which required about 50 disk swaps to copy a single file.
I liked the fancy fonts in GEOWrite, after the laborious process of copying the ones you wanted to use onto the same disk as the program!
lurkerrekrul 2 years ago
Yeah, using the GEOS with a single 1541 was a pain in the heck, but I tried it with 2 1541 and I can assure you it was FAST and powerful at the same time! Truly usable too.
ryo1999 2 years ago
GEOS was no use without a second floppy 1541 drive. You have to get the TopDesk (with several movable windows) want to see C64 & GEOS at its best. Using a RamLink speeded it up even more.
syncrow76 2 years ago
Woah - thouwlin - any chance of sharing the schematics for that? While a bit arcane now, it is still seriously cool.
dannystaple1 2 years ago
Maybe it would be interesting to download and use with CSS64 just to get the feel.
Keijz74 2 years ago
PHUU EMULATOR my c64 load faster
markusgorschboth 2 years ago
As I recall, I had to use my Atari 2600 joystick to control the mouse cursor on the screen. I loved having GEOS since I couldn't afford a mac
softdev1 2 years ago
lol takes long time to load :D
TNG128MB 2 years ago
When the C64 runs in its normal mode, the 8k required for the BASIC language is ROM that maskes the RAM that would otherwise be there. That 8k of RAM could be switched in (It is called bank-switching), but you had better not be in BASIC at the time or you will crash. The same goes for the other ROM areas required after a normal startup.
snavenayr 2 years ago
I still still shake my head in awe at this. This on a 64k machine! That tight programming practice could sure teach a lot today!!!
jimwg1 2 years ago
Yep!
GEOS is basically just a clone of the 1984 Macintosh OS, but where the Mac needed 256k of memory, the programmers were able to squeeze Commodore's GUI into just 1/4 that size.
harleykman 2 years ago
I remember how impressed I was to get the Amiga 1200 which had a built in real-time-clock.
The previous commodores did not - including C64, c128 and a500..
dannystaple1 2 years ago
No but you could buy a clock. The A500 RAM expansion came with a battery-backed clock, and ditto some of the Commodore ram expansions.
harleykman 2 years ago
I wander if there was ever an RTC cart for the commodore 64. I never heard of such a thing. Anyone used one?
dannystaple1 2 years ago
It was far worse on the A3000, which did have a clock...the battery was soldered onto the main logic board and often exploded. Either way, was a pain to replace or solder on a socket.
Jahjjj 2 years ago
Early PC's were the same, although I did not hear of too many exploding batteries.
I did have a mouse that went into the Joy port on the C64. I just remember thinking about the ways to abuse the 1541 drive - it had its own 6502 and only a few k of RAM.
dannystaple1 2 years ago
64 k ram OUCH~! Look its a mouse lol.
privateworldofwarft 3 years ago
We used to build RAM extension which pimped the box to an incredible 2MB.
koskorax 2 years ago
lol
snowman4839 3 years ago
I remember using this with a Commodore Mouse and a centronics dot-matrix printer for Uni stuff in '92! I think it only crashed once. There was a Geos UK user group as well at the time.
headjamesr 3 years ago
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its windows 3.1!
jeabo0adhd 3 years ago
windows 3.1 wishes it was this cool
ericaesop 3 years ago 24
lol
snowman4839 3 years ago
@ericaesop Windows 3.1 is that cool.
justin76pa 1 year ago
My school library computers ran Geos. Windows 3.0 was already out there, but I guess the school techie figured out Geos would be cheaper. I think it was called GeoWorks by then.
livardo 3 years ago
Geos was cool, but as I recall there was a major licensing dispute with another company who owned a significant % of it and Commador. As a result it was killed off and the C64 went the same way shortly thereafter. It's been YEARS, so my memory is fuzzy... but it was cool in it's day....
angurisloud 3 years ago
This brings back ugly memories of Windows 2.0
Cool to see something from the dawn of the age!
georgiahoosier 3 years ago
I had this on my C64. I loved it, I wanted a Mac so bad and this was as close as I could get. I had to go to my Dad's office to use a mac.
softdev1 3 years ago
I had a copy of GEOS back around 88. I was like 9 years old so I didnt know how to use that crap. Looks easy to use now.. slow though.
lightspeed79 3 years ago
Ever heard of Xerox Star (etc.).
Search for it, I think you will watching some videos about that GUI ... from the late 60s ... !
nfoo 3 years ago
I remember WAY BACK renting software for my C64. The guy behind the counter one day handed me a disk with a 'wink, wink" and said "Try this, see if you like it."
It was GEOS and for the time, I thought it was very cool.
cosmotcat 3 years ago
man for a 64K system it ran a graphical user interface very well. I used to use the word proceesor to write science fiction stories lol. It was the first time i was introduced to the concept of fonts.
KevinCarey 3 years ago
went through some old stuff last week and I acctually found my copy of Geos. Still in it's casing. Don't think I ever used it. lol
manan0nim0us4 3 years ago
Can anyone start Windows in 64K RAM?
So if it were developed more applications for GEOS it would win battle against resource-eating Windows!
P. S. It has Recycle Bin first invented in Win95 LOL!
Motaro76 3 years ago
its not a true gui unless it lets alot of spyware slow down your computer.
TangomanX2008 3 years ago
On your OS maybe. :)
vjvis2 3 years ago
Hah i figured out how to load tapes and disks now :) ( im a young computer nerd )
cadefulp 3 years ago
Didja use VICE EMULATOR
and 2nd question DOES IT NEEDS AN INSTALL?
cadefulp 3 years ago
Was even a lot nicer than Windows 1+2. Actually, there was a clock that you could use with the Commodore 64, i even had one that synced to the radio time signal. Also with a modified Diskdrive that was somehow connected to the expansion slot loading times where much better. Oh well, ok, my C64 looked like frankenstein, but that was one of the things that rocked about those computers - don't like something? Get your soldering iron.
alizta 3 years ago 2
oh this is a simulator program ..wonder where he got it..I was writing a GEOS like OS for commodore 64.
victor2cutube 3 years ago
i believe geos originally ran from a cartridge that added extra memory and supplied an instant boot (didn't take time to boot). The slow disk-version was a cracked version I believe.
karst1975 3 years ago
No there was a legal Floppy Version AFAIK. I didn't own one but i have seen them in a small shop.
alizta 3 years ago
Didn't the cartrige version of Geos also reduce the load times of floppy disks?
TangomanX2008 3 years ago
I don't think there was a cartridge version. Google doesn't seem to find it.
XDanSoloX 3 years ago
I think your right. I think I may mixed it up with "the final cartrige". But I do remember working with Geos and yeah, I remember some disks for it now that I think about it.
TangomanX2008 3 years ago
So that's GEOS. When I was a kid, I had a GEOS disk but never knew what the heck it was, even less what was it for.
tailgunner2 3 years ago
thanks for posting! brings back old school memories, i remember i accidently formatted my GEOS disks when i was 8 years old in 1988 haha
peacebruva 3 years ago 2
Nice vid, and yes, it does take as long to boot as Win XP. Might be faster. BTW do you contol the cursor with a joystick?
Vyggy 3 years ago
Your vid made me curious so I unpacked my old 128 beauty and fired it up and it still works. Even more astonishing, the 5 1/4" floppies still held their data after 15 years. I've had plenty of diskettes from just a few years ago go bad on me.
60sThru80s 3 years ago
ah, the sound of a burning match.
clutchlikewoah 4 years ago
why does it only have 38911 bytes free?
pants189 4 years ago
The other memory in the address space was used for the Kernel & BASIC interpreter. They could be disabled to acquire back the entire 64K in the address map.
mngenovese 4 years ago
ok so really you didnt get as much memory as commodore made out but you still got more than most machines?
pants189 4 years ago
> ok so really you didnt get as much memory
> as commodore made out but you still got
> more than most machines?
You got all the memory, but on startup it ran BASIC which took up almost 1/2 of it. You could over-write this memory with an entirely different program, even another BASIC.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
I remmeber goes... it was hot. haha but yeah, not much software for it
invis648 4 years ago
I bet the clock actually thinks on this that its 1907 or something silly.
GEOS is underappreciated for how ahead of its time it was. Windows 1.0 was trash in comparison.
Tibbon 4 years ago 3
GeoPublish did an amazing amount of what a PC DTP program did AND it was a 99K program that ran in a 64K computer! Plus, at that time, PCs didn't have clocks! Now just to drop your jaw, PC XTs didn't have BIOSes!
MalcolmO 4 years ago
But can we all remember what it meant?
Graphic Environment Operating System. Oh yes. I love this great machine. Although Geos was quite clearly influenced by Mac OS and spurred on by the mouse-fuelled Amiga.
LordMataeus 4 years ago
Fantastic efficiency in programming and hardware resources. Especially considering that IBM compatibles at the time were monochrome text only and only capable of squeaks & bops. If only MS or Apple could match that efficiency modern machines would be out of this world - or better - if only Commodore had had MS's marketing people.
Eljay59 4 years ago
It's not really marketing, it's selling the same system for a decade, rather than upgrades or a family of systems.
bajan13k 4 years ago
I loved using GEOS and GEOS128 for the Commodore 128 was brilliant as well. These were full WYSIWYG systems complete with word processor, database, spreadsheet, cut/copy/paste, proportional & scalable fonts, graphics, stereo 3voice sound, fax & network capable all running on 64Kb RAM(32kb available to programs) and a 370Kb floppy disk.
Eljay59 4 years ago
It bypasses the BASIC. So you have the full 64K. It's still unbelievable though.
Vyggy 3 years ago
i had geos but i could never get it to do anything usefull it was just like an elaborate demo
bohoki 4 years ago
Please, would you tell me what program do you use to capture the emulator screen?
zweig1 4 years ago
I wonder how did they do that with just 64K Ram and now you need at least 1 GB for the ¨New¨ Vista to work the way it should... Imagine what would they had done with todays computers...
ingaguzman 4 years ago 3
Yeh, I had that same thought too. But well, Vista is mostly the graphics and nothing else.
Vyggy 3 years ago
Insert disk.
Type "LOAD "GEOS", 8,1"
Watch an episode of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.
Swap the joystick for the mouse.
Grab a bite to eat.
Then start using Geos.
Gosh! Those were the days. Ha! Ha!
tamias6 4 years ago
I can say I was there too!
uniter01 4 years ago
oh my god, things are more advanced now. way more advanced. but then again when you've never had any kind of computer before, this was probably pretty cool?
susokukan47 4 years ago
how long to load .... : (
chestertouristcom 4 years ago
windows does take longer than that!
coolman855 4 years ago 3
omg my computer could load that 50 times before the commodore could load it!
coolman855 4 years ago
I´ll remember C= 64 and all my friends in my home. Geos was the revolution. Now I´m 39 and never forget all the computer and comunications evolutions.
Here in Mexico... Daniel.
hdtvlat 4 years ago
I have to say this was the first video i've ever seen that I've got up and left the computer while it's playing and not missed a thing. I was literaly playing the theme to jeopardy in my head. Instant 5 Stars
CopeML 4 years ago
I had this operating system back in the late 80's but I was a kid so didnt know how to use this shit. Now it looks so prehistoric.
lightspeed79 4 years ago
Nice... but your demonstration runs at 1 mhz :)
tassadar1977 5 years ago
Embrace the nostalgia, make a mug of tea and have yourself a chocolate polo.
paekleton 4 years ago