Phoenix Wright...after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves..and now, seven years later...what has he been reduced to..resorting to "piano playing" and poker...
But somehow, through most of the game he just seems so...happy..
I think it's because he has Trucy, Phoenix would still be lost if he didn't have Trucy...she saved him
OK.You made it sound a bit as if he was solving cases for 7 years.
''after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves'' <------This was what confused me.
Actually. He was lawyer for 4 years. First game, second and in the third from the Mask*deMasque case was in another year and then Furio Tigre/Iris cases were in another year.
This music is so sad and creepy/ominous at the same time. It actually makes me think of Kristoph the most rather than Phoenix, probably because of the whole creepy thing.
My assumption is that Kristoph when he was a child was jealous of his bro, cause from the rock star outfit of klavier, he has way more talented than kristoph. He swore that he would defeat klavier. That chance came when the magnifi's death. But as we all know, zak turned him down and sealed his only path to get revenge. In terms of talent. He then gave his dirty evidence to his previous opponent and trashed both zak and phoenix. I guess he was really jealous
they were a representation of him not wishing to divulge his motive for killing Shadi Smith. Pleading the right to remain silent + having no evidence = no chance of obtaining the truth through that method.
The bottle didn't prove the Shadi knew Kristoph Gavin and vice versa. Apollo broke him in court with the use of the jurist system, which disproved Kristoph's idea that "Evidence is everything. There is nothing more." His ego shattered, the real blow came from Klavier with the phrase "except for you, Kristoph. You haven't changed. You've stopped. You're not needed anymore." It was to represent the concept that evidence isn't the end-all of a trial.
Kristoph is eight years older than Klavier; why would he be jealous of his little brother? By the time Klavier had got into rock, Kristoph would have firmly established himself as a 'prodigy' in the lawyer world - he'd have no reason to be jealous.
I think we have to accept that Kristoph is a naturally dark person; hurting someone because of a slight to his own pride or whatever doesn't have to have a logical reason behind it, because it seems natural in his eyes. I mean, he didn't see anything wrong with attempted poisoning and manipulation of a 12-year-old girl.
Interestingly enough, all those in Troupe Gramarye wore those same shoes.
Perhaps this means that Kristoph was related to them in the past, and perhaps it was because of this that something happened to make him want to kill Zak. I don't buy that it was just because Zak refused Kristoph's services.
dear god....i havent played apollo (still on T&T) but ive seen phoenix...and(please dont answer i wanna find out myself) what happened to him? indeed, a legendary attorney....but forgotten? Never.
Ill admit when i first saw those things the first thing that came to my mind was "oh shit something is really wrong with this dude that he has to have black locks"....but did we really want to know what was inside?
SHEESH. That was both random and pointless. And to those who haven't played the game, unlike me, should really shoot you in the face right now with a shotgun. Or perhaps, in this case, an angry magician and frustrated attorney to smack you.
It this the flashback music for Phoenix' sin in the courtroom 7 years ago? I know about 5% of what happerned and that was through Trucy and that forged evidence in the first case
Remember it was said,that Thalassa had a child with a performer who was a guest in one of the Gramarye shows. He died in an illusion oder something like that !
Boy I love this theme I almost found myself crying,because it was so tragic what happened.
But I wonder at the an of the credits Phoenix said:Or maybe I´ll take the bar exam again!
I hope he will do that.But first I want to see a fight in the courtromm either Apollo vs.Franziska von Karma(Franzis whippity wip trip) oder Edgeworth!
Well... He never actually uses that to prove anything. He just said, "Well, what if there were a spot of blood on it... like on this here card?" And then he laid down the chain.
After all... Kristoph did ask, "Why would the killer swap a card?"
And yeah, that would be cool is Phoenix took the exam again. After all, his name's been pretty much cleared...
Yeah, it's true... And he also say "...The only person who could think that is the one who took the REAL card fom the game... The real killer!"
But something bothers me... Kristoph simply could have say that this is only a possibility... The suspicions surronding Kristoph ae only possibilities... =/
Yeah... right up until he confessed to the crime afterwards. And Phoenix proving that the bottles were swapped was pretty devastating as well.
And your English is fine; you leave out some letters here and there by accident (fom instead of from, for example), but the only real difficulty you seem to be having is with punctuation.
Yeah, the fact that the bottles were swapped was quite decisive. ^^ But still, it just prove that the real killer swapped them. But yeah, Kristoph confessed everything. =D
And I'm sorry for the punctuation... And for the "missing letters", it's 'cause my keyboard suxx. ^^
There is no point in breaking his psyche-locks. After all, the question was "Why did you kill Shadi Smith?", and everyone who beat the game knows why.
@GreigaSP yeah he is a legend not only in the game but in the gamig community no matter how hard i try i cant forget Ace Attorney series its legendary
Damn straight, the first orchestral soundtrack of the PW games was just epic, really made me appreciate the game series (and it's music) a hell of a lot more.
@horo30
No, Phoenix only gets panicked.
AcerHawkz 8 months ago
What's the song when mr hat appears?!
Zerony31 9 months ago
Phoenix Wright...after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves..and now, seven years later...what has he been reduced to..resorting to "piano playing" and poker...
But somehow, through most of the game he just seems so...happy..
I think it's because he has Trucy, Phoenix would still be lost if he didn't have Trucy...she saved him
xxvampirexfreakxx 2 years ago 3
Um.He only was a lawyer for 3 years.He wasn't solving cases for 7 whole years.
azurill 2 years ago 4
Yea..but the time lapse between PW and AJ is 7 years...
and yes, he was well known by the end of the third game...
xxvampirexfreakxx 2 years ago
OK.You made it sound a bit as if he was solving cases for 7 years.
''after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves'' <------This was what confused me.
And of course he was well known :D
Never said anything on the contrary.
azurill 2 years ago
Sorry if that sounded confusing...
But yea..I was kinda talking about the time lapse...
it's been 7 years since that...
xxvampirexfreakxx 2 years ago
Actually. He was lawyer for 4 years. First game, second and in the third from the Mask*deMasque case was in another year and then Furio Tigre/Iris cases were in another year.
crazy4max 2 years ago
Maybe Appollo Justice is the result of Justice for all's bad ending? If that was it, then he would be a lawyer for about... 2 years?
Majora129 2 years ago
Without trucy its most likely he would have spent most of his life having emotional break downs.
Hell kristoph made phenoix angry. And phenoix NEVER GETS ANGRY.
horo30 2 years ago
This is true...
I really feel sorry for the guy now
xxvampirexfreakxx 2 years ago
Oh, Phoenix... *tear*
Feeniefan12345336 2 years ago 6
......what happened to maya?... i miss her :(
doddieplaya 2 years ago
This reminds me slightly of some of the Kingdom Hearts music.
Pct95 2 years ago
This music is so sad and creepy/ominous at the same time. It actually makes me think of Kristoph the most rather than Phoenix, probably because of the whole creepy thing.
flashbangg 2 years ago
Sounds like Boktai music. It's awesome.
Nobodyshark 3 years ago
I wonder what that dark locks meant?
My assumption is that Kristoph when he was a child was jealous of his bro, cause from the rock star outfit of klavier, he has way more talented than kristoph. He swore that he would defeat klavier. That chance came when the magnifi's death. But as we all know, zak turned him down and sealed his only path to get revenge. In terms of talent. He then gave his dirty evidence to his previous opponent and trashed both zak and phoenix. I guess he was really jealous
HKichen 3 years ago
they were a representation of him not wishing to divulge his motive for killing Shadi Smith. Pleading the right to remain silent + having no evidence = no chance of obtaining the truth through that method.
Quicksilver1111 3 years ago
The right to remain silent is in court. Not when phoenix uses the magatama.
No evidence? How about the bottle?
I mean, how could apollo break him in court?
HKichen 2 years ago
The bottle didn't prove the Shadi knew Kristoph Gavin and vice versa. Apollo broke him in court with the use of the jurist system, which disproved Kristoph's idea that "Evidence is everything. There is nothing more." His ego shattered, the real blow came from Klavier with the phrase "except for you, Kristoph. You haven't changed. You've stopped. You're not needed anymore." It was to represent the concept that evidence isn't the end-all of a trial.
Quicksilver1111 2 years ago
Hmm. Well this song reminds me of a lot of things.
I hope they make 1 more phoenix wright game. Where you can like play as him again..
Tie all the rest of the loose ends.. Like wtf? he didnt have to become a hippie ya know. As everyone knows he has many talents. Why hobo?
horo30 2 years ago
...Poker. Remember?
TheTaiyakiGuy 2 years ago
Kristoph is eight years older than Klavier; why would he be jealous of his little brother? By the time Klavier had got into rock, Kristoph would have firmly established himself as a 'prodigy' in the lawyer world - he'd have no reason to be jealous.
flashbangg 2 years ago
Byut then it would not make sense. Just because he was chosen to rep shadi, he resorted to hurt phoenix?
This totally weak reason to do all that klavier had done!
HKichen 2 years ago
I think we have to accept that Kristoph is a naturally dark person; hurting someone because of a slight to his own pride or whatever doesn't have to have a logical reason behind it, because it seems natural in his eyes. I mean, he didn't see anything wrong with attempted poisoning and manipulation of a 12-year-old girl.
flashbangg 2 years ago
Speaking of shoes, dahlia's and mia's are about the same.
HKichen 3 years ago 2
...Trucy and Kristoph have near identical shoes.
Chariflame 3 years ago 17
Interestingly enough, all those in Troupe Gramarye wore those same shoes.
Perhaps this means that Kristoph was related to them in the past, and perhaps it was because of this that something happened to make him want to kill Zak. I don't buy that it was just because Zak refused Kristoph's services.
MechanicalxHeart 3 years ago 2
You, sir, are a genius. No doubt about it.
PigeonPieProductions 2 years ago
dear god....i havent played apollo (still on T&T) but ive seen phoenix...and(please dont answer i wanna find out myself) what happened to him? indeed, a legendary attorney....but forgotten? Never.
Stario1Up 3 years ago
He lost his badge and was considered a fraud for the fake evidence that one of the six people above gave him.
KingDedede10054 3 years ago
*Cough cough*furthest to the right*Cough cough*
linkroxmysox2008 3 years ago
...you mean left?
funnyhaha11 3 years ago
no, dont you remember?
*SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERPSOILERSPOILER* Kristoph gave him the notebook page...
*SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER*
yamiisawesome111 3 years ago
i just noticed
Kristoph is Damm Tall
Elinie 3 years ago 5
damm
after i see those black locks
i had a Very Strong Urge To Break it
But Then I found Out The Game Doesnt Allow you to break those locks
Elinie 3 years ago 5
Ill admit when i first saw those things the first thing that came to my mind was "oh shit something is really wrong with this dude that he has to have black locks"....but did we really want to know what was inside?
hentaikage 3 years ago 5
So... Why'd you kill Shadi Smith?
Mechapoo 3 years ago
That has no bearing on the case at hand. :]
Escargotage 3 years ago 2
Why do I get a feeling they might go digging up Manfred von Karma's past in GS5? They did make a game out of Mia's in GS3, after all.
ChaoPrince 3 years ago
They would save that for Gyakuten Kenji 2, if they make one.
wfwqfwqfwfwe 3 years ago
You know, i kinda like the new phoenix wright.. he looks really really cool o-O
Matukusu 3 years ago 6
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*spoiler*
Trucys real name is Trucy Enigmar
And Trucy and Apollo are siblings
AND their mum is Lamiroir
estooz123 3 years ago
SHEESH. That was both random and pointless. And to those who haven't played the game, unlike me, should really shoot you in the face right now with a shotgun. Or perhaps, in this case, an angry magician and frustrated attorney to smack you.
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you should click in "SPAM" to do a favor to other people who doesn´t want to read that. Better, I will.
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jesblabla 3 years ago 3
One of the best Reminiscense themes.
MaxHarms 3 years ago
youtube, home of people who post spoilers with no warnings
TheDarkWall 3 years ago 7
It this the flashback music for Phoenix' sin in the courtroom 7 years ago? I know about 5% of what happerned and that was through Trucy and that forged evidence in the first case
RandomLesson101 3 years ago
PS: Sorry for my bad Engish, but my mother language is the French. But is my English good, anyway? =]
yoshiwan2 3 years ago
It's not great but I can easily understand you.
glhf2 3 years ago
I wanted to ask the same question!
I suppose the my last comment skould be sufficient as reference.
Well,is my English any good?
Uglymaster1 3 years ago
Oops, sorry! xD
As far as I can tell, your English is very good, but I'm not really in position to judge it.
And I don't want Apollo vs Franziska!! XD But I want to know who is Apollo's father, and what will Phoenix do. Take the bar exam again? Yay! =D
yoshiwan2 3 years ago
Apollo's father is unknown atm, all we know is that Trucy's father is Zak Gramarye ^_^
zoftie 3 years ago
Apollo´s father is dead.
Remember it was said,that Thalassa had a child with a performer who was a guest in one of the Gramarye shows. He died in an illusion oder something like that !
Uglymaster1 3 years ago
It'll probably be GS5 material. Maybe another flashback case where he's the victim?
Rastlol 3 years ago
That was the case where phoenix got barred form law.
wfwqfwqfwfwe 3 years ago
Magnifi was Thalassa's father, not her husband.
CCrockyourass 3 years ago
@zoftie Nice Spoiler jerk (and despite how sorry you are you shall for evah be a jerk.)
ShotGreg 2 years ago
Boy I love this theme I almost found myself crying,because it was so tragic what happened.
But I wonder at the an of the credits Phoenix said:Or maybe I´ll take the bar exam again!
I hope he will do that.But first I want to see a fight in the courtromm either Apollo vs.Franziska von Karma(Franzis whippity wip trip) oder Edgeworth!
Uglymaster1 3 years ago
Phoenix really did forge a piece of evidence during the first trial, the fift ace.
yoshiwan2 3 years ago
SPOILERS!
Well... He never actually uses that to prove anything. He just said, "Well, what if there were a spot of blood on it... like on this here card?" And then he laid down the chain.
After all... Kristoph did ask, "Why would the killer swap a card?"
And yeah, that would be cool is Phoenix took the exam again. After all, his name's been pretty much cleared...
kiraina25 3 years ago
Yeah, it's true... And he also say "...The only person who could think that is the one who took the REAL card fom the game... The real killer!"
But something bothers me... Kristoph simply could have say that this is only a possibility... The suspicions surronding Kristoph ae only possibilities... =/
yoshiwan2 3 years ago
Yeah... right up until he confessed to the crime afterwards. And Phoenix proving that the bottles were swapped was pretty devastating as well.
And your English is fine; you leave out some letters here and there by accident (fom instead of from, for example), but the only real difficulty you seem to be having is with punctuation.
kiraina25 3 years ago
Yeah, the fact that the bottles were swapped was quite decisive. ^^ But still, it just prove that the real killer swapped them. But yeah, Kristoph confessed everything. =D
And I'm sorry for the punctuation... And for the "missing letters", it's 'cause my keyboard suxx. ^^
yoshiwan2 3 years ago
LOL@ kristoph when he has gone nuts... SUPER SAIYAN!!!
johnzkeePW 3 years ago 2
Yup he did but he already proved that kristoph was the killer with that card...
because only the killer would know it was fraud because the real killer already destroyed the card
johnzkeePW 3 years ago
I was sad for awhile about Phoenix until the ending then I was happy...sort of lol
smariofreak6489 3 years ago
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phoenix forges evidence but
actually I think he is more cooler than in the first three games
nintendoslaaf 3 years ago
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he didnt really forge it, it was forged by Kristoph, who wanted pheonix to lose his attorney's badge i recall
ZYBlade 3 years ago 3
He's probably talking about the first case with the card.
djgondra 3 years ago
@gamemaster64
you mean klavier
nintendoslaaf 3 years ago
**Sobs for Phoenix**
mr00aznkid 3 years ago 5
**get pissed at a certain character in the image*
Gamemaster64 3 years ago 5
I know right! I just don't understand what compelled them to do that (as in, I don't think they got enough backstory...)
*waits for Apollo Justice 2*
Luckdragon 3 years ago
What about the black you-know-whats?
ZeroHero789 3 years ago
Yeah. I wonder if you know who is going to break those black you-might-know-whats in the next game. After all, he never broke it. We just saw it.
ttcgeek 3 years ago
There is no point in breaking his psyche-locks. After all, the question was "Why did you kill Shadi Smith?", and everyone who beat the game knows why.
Gacs25 3 years ago 2
People wanted to see locks explode, not learn the information from the lock itself.
Hopefully, next game we can break a black lock. If the lock has the same breaking animation as a normal lock, I won't be pleased.
wfwqfwqfwfwe 3 years ago
Err, that is not my point. People were saying "omg wry didn't the locks break D:" I was explaining why they didn't.
Black locks in GS5, yeah, why not? Still, that wasn't my point.
Gacs25 3 years ago
i wanted to see them explode, but also see the dumbfounded look on kristoph's face as you break him...
Yamibooze 3 years ago
Gamemaster *COUGHkristophCOUGH*
mr00aznkid 3 years ago
This is the best piece of Ace Attorney music ever.. wow..
AgostonF 4 years ago
Coming from the title, I'm assuming this song is related to Phoenix? He's pretty much legendary to me now.
GreigaSP 4 years ago 19
yup...it is...
shadowblackajey 4 years ago
@GreigaSP yeah he is a legend not only in the game but in the gamig community no matter how hard i try i cant forget Ace Attorney series its legendary
TheCIDFF7 5 months ago
Well, it's not really a song, it's the orchestral version of the music from the game, I can't wait for it to come out!
espeoradar 4 years ago
Damn straight, the first orchestral soundtrack of the PW games was just epic, really made me appreciate the game series (and it's music) a hell of a lot more.
Hope they do jazz versions, too! :D
Xithon 4 years ago
what day does it come out?
Nokadee 4 years ago
US: 19/02/2008 though the shops might not have them until the 20th
EU: 11/04/2008 though this date is not completely official
espeoradar 4 years ago
oh,thanks! :]
Nokadee 4 years ago
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I AM THE FIRST TO COMMENT!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!
YOU HEAR ME, YOU BASTARDS?! THE FIRST!! HAHA!!!..........Aaaaaaaaaand this song sucks.
darkshadowshinobi 4 years ago
Hi. 8D
HurricaneFaFniR 4 years ago
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Swedengirl123 4 years ago