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  • @horo30

    No, Phoenix only gets panicked.

  • What's the song when mr hat appears?!

  • Phoenix Wright...after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves..and now, seven years later...what has he been reduced to..resorting to "piano playing" and poker...

    But somehow, through most of the game he just seems so...happy..

    I think it's because he has Trucy, Phoenix would still be lost if he didn't have Trucy...she saved him

  • Um.He only was a lawyer for 3 years.He wasn't solving cases for 7 whole years.

  • Yea..but the time lapse between PW and AJ is 7 years...

    and yes, he was well known by the end of the third game...

  • OK.You made it sound a bit as if he was solving cases for 7 years.

    ''after seven years of solving seemingly impossible cases, seven years of defending those who can't defend themselves'' <------This was what confused me.

    And of course he was well known :D

    Never said anything on the contrary.

  • Sorry if that sounded confusing...

    But yea..I was kinda talking about the time lapse...

    it's been 7 years since that...

  • Actually. He was lawyer for 4 years. First game, second and in the third from the Mask*deMasque case was in another year and then Furio Tigre/Iris cases were in another year.

  • Maybe Appollo Justice is the result of Justice for all's bad ending? If that was it, then he would be a lawyer for about... 2 years?

  • Without trucy its most likely he would have spent most of his life having emotional break downs.

    Hell kristoph made phenoix angry. And phenoix NEVER GETS ANGRY.

  • This is true...

    I really feel sorry for the guy now

  • Oh, Phoenix... *tear*

  • ......what happened to maya?... i miss her :(

  • This reminds me slightly of some of the Kingdom Hearts music.

  • This music is so sad and creepy/ominous at the same time. It actually makes me think of Kristoph the most rather than Phoenix, probably because of the whole creepy thing.

  • Sounds like Boktai music. It's awesome.

  • I wonder what that dark locks meant?

    My assumption is that Kristoph when he was a child was jealous of his bro, cause from the rock star outfit of klavier, he has way more talented than kristoph. He swore that he would defeat klavier. That chance came when the magnifi's death. But as we all know, zak turned him down and sealed his only path to get revenge. In terms of talent. He then gave his dirty evidence to his previous opponent and trashed both zak and phoenix. I guess he was really jealous

  • they were a representation of him not wishing to divulge his motive for killing Shadi Smith. Pleading the right to remain silent + having no evidence = no chance of obtaining the truth through that method.

  • The right to remain silent is in court. Not when phoenix uses the magatama.

    No evidence? How about the bottle?

    I mean, how could apollo break him in court?

  • The bottle didn't prove the Shadi knew Kristoph Gavin and vice versa. Apollo broke him in court with the use of the jurist system, which disproved Kristoph's idea that "Evidence is everything. There is nothing more." His ego shattered, the real blow came from Klavier with the phrase "except for you, Kristoph. You haven't changed. You've stopped. You're not needed anymore." It was to represent the concept that evidence isn't the end-all of a trial.

  • Hmm. Well this song reminds me of a lot of things.

    I hope they make 1 more phoenix wright game. Where you can like play as him again..

    Tie all the rest of the loose ends.. Like wtf? he didnt have to become a hippie ya know. As everyone knows he has many talents. Why hobo?

  • ...Poker. Remember?

  • Kristoph is eight years older than Klavier; why would he be jealous of his little brother? By the time Klavier had got into rock, Kristoph would have firmly established himself as a 'prodigy' in the lawyer world - he'd have no reason to be jealous.

  • Byut then it would not make sense. Just because he was chosen to rep shadi, he resorted to hurt phoenix?

    This totally weak reason to do all that klavier had done!

  • I think we have to accept that Kristoph is a naturally dark person; hurting someone because of a slight to his own pride or whatever doesn't have to have a logical reason behind it, because it seems natural in his eyes. I mean, he didn't see anything wrong with attempted poisoning and manipulation of a 12-year-old girl.

  • Speaking of shoes, dahlia's and mia's are about the same.

  • ...Trucy and Kristoph have near identical shoes.

  • Interestingly enough, all those in Troupe Gramarye wore those same shoes.

    Perhaps this means that Kristoph was related to them in the past, and perhaps it was because of this that something happened to make him want to kill Zak. I don't buy that it was just because Zak refused Kristoph's services.

  • You, sir, are a genius. No doubt about it.

  • dear god....i havent played apollo (still on T&T) but ive seen phoenix...and(please dont answer i wanna find out myself) what happened to him? indeed, a legendary attorney....but forgotten? Never.

  • He lost his badge and was considered a fraud for the fake evidence that one of the six people above gave him.

  • *Cough cough*furthest to the right*Cough cough*

  • ...you mean left?

  • no, dont you remember?

    *SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERPSOILERS­POILER* Kristoph gave him the notebook page...

    *SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERS­POILER*

  • i just noticed

    Kristoph is Damm Tall

  • damm

    after i see those black locks

    i had a Very Strong Urge To Break it

    But Then I found Out The Game Doesnt Allow you to break those locks

  • Ill admit when i first saw those things the first thing that came to my mind was "oh shit something is really wrong with this dude that he has to have black locks"....but did we really want to know what was inside?

  • So... Why'd you kill Shadi Smith?

  • That has no bearing on the case at hand. :]

  • Why do I get a feeling they might go digging up Manfred von Karma's past in GS5? They did make a game out of Mia's in GS3, after all.

  • They would save that for Gyakuten Kenji 2, if they make one.

  • You know, i kinda like the new phoenix wright.. he looks really really cool o-O

  • beneath this message is a spoiler...

  • SHEESH. That was both random and pointless. And to those who haven't played the game, unlike me, should really shoot you in the face right now with a shotgun. Or perhaps, in this case, an angry magician and frustrated attorney to smack you.

  • you should click in "SPAM" to do a favor to other people who doesn´t want to read that. Better, I will.

    PD: Don´t worry, I passed all the game. DON´T READ estooz123 TEX IF YOU DON´T WANT TO KNOW THE FINAL OF AA:AP

  • One of the best Reminiscense themes.

  • youtube, home of people who post spoilers with no warnings

  • It this the flashback music for Phoenix' sin in the courtroom 7 years ago? I know about 5% of what happerned and that was through Trucy and that forged evidence in the first case

  • PS: Sorry for my bad Engish, but my mother language is the French. But is my English good, anyway? =]

  • It's not great but I can easily understand you.

  • I wanted to ask the same question!

    I suppose the my last comment skould be sufficient as reference.

    Well,is my English any good?

  • Oops, sorry! xD

    As far as I can tell, your English is very good, but I'm not really in position to judge it.

    And I don't want Apollo vs Franziska!! XD But I want to know who is Apollo's father, and what will Phoenix do. Take the bar exam again? Yay! =D

  • Apollo's father is unknown atm, all we know is that Trucy's father is Zak Gramarye ^_^

  • Apollo´s father is dead.

    Remember it was said,that Thalassa had a child with a performer who was a guest in one of the Gramarye shows. He died in an illusion oder something like that !

  • It'll probably be GS5 material. Maybe another flashback case where he's the victim?

  • That was the case where phoenix got barred form law.

  • Magnifi was Thalassa's father, not her husband.

  • @zoftie Nice Spoiler jerk (and despite how sorry you are you shall for evah be a jerk.)

  • Boy I love this theme I almost found myself crying,because it was so tragic what happened.

    But I wonder at the an of the credits Phoenix said:Or maybe I´ll take the bar exam again!

    I hope he will do that.But first I want to see a fight in the courtromm either Apollo vs.Franziska von Karma(Franzis whippity wip trip) oder Edgeworth!

  • Phoenix really did forge a piece of evidence during the first trial, the fift ace.

  • SPOILERS!

    Well... He never actually uses that to prove anything. He just said, "Well, what if there were a spot of blood on it... like on this here card?" And then he laid down the chain.

    After all... Kristoph did ask, "Why would the killer swap a card?"

    And yeah, that would be cool is Phoenix took the exam again. After all, his name's been pretty much cleared...

  • Yeah, it's true... And he also say "...The only person who could think that is the one who took the REAL card fom the game... The real killer!"

    But something bothers me... Kristoph simply could have say that this is only a possibility... The suspicions surronding Kristoph ae only possibilities... =/

  • Yeah... right up until he confessed to the crime afterwards. And Phoenix proving that the bottles were swapped was pretty devastating as well.

    And your English is fine; you leave out some letters here and there by accident (fom instead of from, for example), but the only real difficulty you seem to be having is with punctuation.

  • Yeah, the fact that the bottles were swapped was quite decisive. ^^ But still, it just prove that the real killer swapped them. But yeah, Kristoph confessed everything. =D

    And I'm sorry for the punctuation... And for the "missing letters", it's 'cause my keyboard suxx. ^^

  • LOL@ kristoph when he has gone nuts... SUPER SAIYAN!!!

  • Yup he did but he already proved that kristoph was the killer with that card...

    because only the killer would know it was fraud because the real killer already destroyed the card

  • I was sad for awhile about Phoenix until the ending then I was happy...sort of lol

  • He's probably talking about the first case with the card.

  • @gamemaster64

    you mean klavier

  • **Sobs for Phoenix**

  • **get pissed at a certain character in the image*

  • I know right! I just don't understand what compelled them to do that (as in, I don't think they got enough backstory...)

    *waits for Apollo Justice 2*

  • What about the black you-know-whats?

  • Yeah. I wonder if you know who is going to break those black you-might-know-whats in the next game. After all, he never broke it. We just saw it.

  • There is no point in breaking his psyche-locks. After all, the question was "Why did you kill Shadi Smith?", and everyone who beat the game knows why.

  • People wanted to see locks explode, not learn the information from the lock itself.

    Hopefully, next game we can break a black lock. If the lock has the same breaking animation as a normal lock, I won't be pleased.

  • Err, that is not my point. People were saying "omg wry didn't the locks break D:" I was explaining why they didn't.

    Black locks in GS5, yeah, why not? Still, that wasn't my point.

  • i wanted to see them explode, but also see the dumbfounded look on kristoph's face as you break him...

  • Gamemaster *COUGHkristophCOUGH*

  • This is the best piece of Ace Attorney music ever.. wow..

  • Coming from the title, I'm assuming this song is related to Phoenix? He's pretty much legendary to me now.

  • yup...it is...

  • @GreigaSP yeah he is a legend not only in the game but in the gamig community no matter how hard i try i cant forget Ace Attorney series its legendary

  • Well, it's not really a song, it's the orchestral version of the music from the game, I can't wait for it to come out!

  • Damn straight, the first orchestral soundtrack of the PW games was just epic, really made me appreciate the game series (and it's music) a hell of a lot more.

    Hope they do jazz versions, too! :D

  • what day does it come out?

  • US: 19/02/2008 though the shops might not have them until the 20th

    EU: 11/04/2008 though this date is not completely official

  • oh,thanks! :]

  • Hi. 8D

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