People are so ignorant, this has been going on for HOW LONG? LONG. Do your research, the rate at which this is happening is ridiculous, and only getting worse.
Good! This is for you people that say, "The more the animal is tortured, the better it tastes." I understand why many people eat animals. Also, some people, like me, are allergic to certain foods. Therefore, it would be difficult for some to become vegetarians. If God said in the Bible that it's okay to eat meat, than it is fine. However, He expects us to treat them humanely. Stop factory farm cruelty and eat organic foods whenever possible.
Vexacon, according to Doctor Gregory Gray, Director of The Center for the Study of Emerging Diseases at The University of Iowa, swine flu can jump from pigs to birds or to humans.
Yesterday I saw a video where a genetic researcher studied the, RNA if memory serves, of the swine flu virus. He was able to trace which populations of pigs it mixed with.
So yes, swine flu does come from pigs and it did jump to people.
Some of these researchers are hard to figure out, it all depends what side their on! Scientists on one side say it's ok, the other say it's not! I'm not going to stop eating pork, unless it's 100% true to what they're saying! Even vegetables are sometimes dangerous to eat, with diseases on them! i don't trust those organic farmers either, as people have a tendency to cheat to make money!
MHSTZ wrote: "Cows also have 2 stomachs and a cud to break down all that plant fiber. Guess what? Humans don't have a herbivores digestive tract. We are not cows"
Ok then look at the closest relatives humans have, chimpanzees and bonobos are the closest two.. and you can look at gorillas and urangutans...no room here for details but the highest meat eaters there eat far less than humans, and most of them? very nearly-vegan.
But, if you eat meat,get rid of factory farming for public's safety
"you build up good muscle"...Yes, From Plants!..because of the better quality protein
Here's a quiz. You think you get all this protein from eating that cow, huh, and think that to get protein you have to eat meat.. Hmm. So how'd that Beef come to be solid protein, hm? Does a cow eat meat??-NO!
A BULL gets to be 2 THOUSAND POUNDS OF RIPPLING MUSCLE that can rip a human male in half..by eating Plants! Theres so much protein in plants that it can generate 2,000lbs of muscle! Meat eaters are Fat.
This is true and I am living proof. You passion inspires me.
I used to eat meat, I'm ashamed to say it, but a life changing experience showed me differently. I now don't eat ANY meat.... BTW, strong mints have beef gelatine in them too! Beef in STRONG MINTS! Come on people, something isn't right here!
The lust for flesh literally consumes most people. They can't wait to sink their teeth into another dead animal or fish. When all the while it's killing them inside.
really? in mints? i didn't know that. it's pretty scarey that you can find flesh or animal products in almost anything today. it's a good thing i don't like the taste of mint. but thanks for the heads up :)
Pick up a pack of Xtra strong mints and look at the contents.
Gelatine (bovine).
They do this is many, MANY sweets and candy, gets the younguns on those exogenous growth hormones early. Nothing like a ten year old boy with breasts that suit a 34 year old woman.
It's sickening to me. Especially Haribo, they ought be ashamed of themselves.
the meat part sure in some people thats true but fish noooo oh noooo unless you're eating a fish that is high in mercury like a fucking shark or swordfish its GREAT for you! asians have the longest lifespan solely because our diet consists of fish
FYI Eating MEAT is GOOD for you!! It helps you build up good muscle and will make you an all around healthier person! Vegitarians and vegans are the DUMBASSES. Any one who thinks that the pigs are "mistreated" really need to get a clue. Not all facilities are like this. I happen to raise cattle and they are happy as can be. Not only to I raise them but I also show them. They're spoiled rotten! So don't think that you people all know SOOO much about farming.Go out to some feed lots in Southern NE
katesetter wrote "Any one who thinks that the pigs are "mistreated" really need to get a clue. Not all facilities are like this. I happen to raise cattle and they are happy as can be. Not only to I raise them but I also show them. They're spoiled rotten"
-Similar words as these were given by Slave owners. Plantation "owners" told how their blacks were spoiled, with room & board, food to eat, etc, and how they treated their slaves so well and they should be grateful to have it so good.
Do you people realize what happens to the beef and pork industries when vegians and vegitarians try to make peopel think that not eating beef and any other meat for that matter make them healthy? My mom is a feed specialist and I've seen a LOT of pig farms go out of buisness just because of the "swine flu" which doesn't even have to do with pigs!!! IT's all bullshit!! Do more research before you make a sure decision.
Feed Specialist... Yeah, feed specialist, go ask your "mom" about how she puts Bovine Growth Hormone into that feed of hers. Ask her about female pregnancy hormones implanted into the cattle there, poochie. Melangestrol. Which brings early onset menstruation and breast tissue cancer in girls. Go look up RALGRO. and SYNOVEX, and HEIFERMAX steroid chemicals that are in your Meat, and cause cancer in you & man-boobs in your Dad. Go look them up. Dare you. Go learn whats in your meat, poochie
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You guys can cry all you want guess what factory farming wont be stoped because it gives us good amounts of food at lower prices and second it provides hundreds of jobs you really think the government wants to stops factory farming you guys make me laugh
u can laugh now, but the info is there... later maybe will be too late to try to change... just research more, get the info, hope still have time to change...think about it.
Now listen, I'm not saying that the virus DIDN'T originate on a factory farm, but how are you sure that that's not just the first place it was discovered?
Last time I checked they don't do very much testing of feral pigs, which could actually be equally culpable.
I am only writing this more boring and serious question for the adamant vegans out there, who gave my more witty earlier comment so many thumbs down it can't be seen anymore.
Thinking people react to this type of hysterical TV propaganda with skepticism and more questions, not blind fervor.
I was not criticizing being Vegan with my other comment, I was mocking this style of bombastic journalism which smacks of FOX-news-style paranoia, just to the opposite end of the political spectrum.
This is from the CDC - Centers for Disease Control, budfish41 - get an education. Because at the moment you are revealing that you are uninformed & irrelevant.
NEWS: "CDC CONFIRMS TIES TO VIRUS 1ST DISCOVERED IN U.S. PIG FARM"
"An analysis of the H1N1 swine flu virus from humans has revealed that 6 of the 8 genetic segments arose from strains found in 1998 on a factory pig farm in North Carolina"
The DNA segments of the H1N1 pandemic flu originated via Factory Meat Farms.
Notice once again, that this hog-farmer meat head "budfish41" who is a 41 year old man with pig-slaughtering videos favorited on his page and lacks the capacity to understand simple information is also one of these meat-heads that can't even spell even the smallest words; scribbling "Moar" instead of :More". That's the education level we're dealing with here; the education level of a meat-head.
Ah yes...that's it...go for the personal attack. How educated. The name-calling and spelling correction (which, btw, was intentionally meant to suck someone like you in to a response) speak volumes about you.
Let's see...virus found on pig farm = "factory" farming bad.
sorry budfish41, im not trying to make a PERSONAL attack, but do NOT go taking stabs at organisations who try to give a voice to creatures on this earth who are considered 'inferior' to people, probably like yourself.
one more thing, why would you be making purposeful spelling mistakes for someone to retaliate to? do you have nothing better to do than cause a fight with people you dont know?
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Silence! I will not tolerate your insolence!
i am prepared to sacrificie a FARM-RAISED CHICKEN at this moment and will put a VOODOO CURSE on each of you unless you PROVE the assertions you make of this apparent "link!"
Once again "budfish41" demonstrates intellectual-falure. See, this is the problem with meat eaters, they don't have a very high IQ.
You think you are "hurting" or getting someone else by you eating meat or chicken. You aren't hurting us, you're hurting yourself. When you eat meat, you are effeminizing yourself more. Meat contains female hormones. Chicken contains arsenic. Yes, the poison. (Look it up)
NEWS: "Arsenic Widespread in Chicken, Testing Finds" -IATP
I mean this is how stupid budfish41 and meat heads such as he, are... A smart person tells them something is contaminated, and not to eat it because it will harm them, and what do they do? They eat it and then go "Har har I got you!"
This is like a knowledgeable person telling someone they shouldn't smoke cigarettes, because it can cause them throat cancer, impotent sperm, and death. And then the person goes "HAH! I just smoked 3 packs! I showed YOU!! Hahaha! I really got you back!"=idiot.
This is great! budfish1 just topped himself, in stupidity. See, you're over there *thinking* that you "got me back" by YOU eating meat or something. That didn't do anything to me, in fact, you just harmed yourself! Meat contains FEMALE hormones! implants. There's girl's estrogen & the woman's pregnancy hormone progesterone in what You ate! So you just effeminized yourself. This is why meat eaters often have paunches & man-boobs. You just became less manly & sissified yourself.
Okay seeing as the topic is way off the swine flu now, im going to be the first one to act more adult and say just three things, 1. youre now being a hypocrite using personal attacks, 2, i would gladly take a hike beacause at least i wouldnt have to put up with any more pointless garbage from such an imbosile like you, and 3, dont expect any more replies.
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Since you "SickEVonbrutal666" are obviously of low knowledge level, and not a scientist, but you are an oaf that simply read that you can't get infected with H1N1 virus by *eating* pigs and then you erroneously and falsely concocted out of that the false statement "does not come" from pigs, you are irreputable and debunked. - The virus is a Triple Hybrid, 1/3 of whose DNA genetic component CAME FROM PIGS! On a Factory Farm! Now go get a G.E.D. and learn the right version of "your" as well.
Animal rights people have been warning of this for years.. did anyone listen .. NO ! BSE, CJD, AVIAN FLU , TB, SWINE FLU ..why on earth would anyone want to eat animals and take the risk - GO VEGAN !
parkwayero: it's called swine flu because it originated years ago in swine -and now because of human indecency and hard-heartedness(and your insatiable desire to kill yourselves slowly by eating animals), these animals are kept in close confinement, unhealthy, unhappy, abused & terrorized, spreading disease, and are housed near birds you also eat - also caged in close confinement-and the current strain is now actually a hybrid of bird/swine/human flus. Meat eaters murder everyone.
We need to take our heads out of our asses when it comes to humane practices on many fronts, but factory farming is where it should start.
Let's evolve already, ok?
This horror is driven by the need for cheap, fast food. How do you think Mickey D's, Sonic, Subway, Arby's et al can fill the stomachs of millions of people a day for .99 cents? Think about it...
Although called swine flu due to it predominantly containing swine strains, the World Organisation for Animal Health have proposed the name North American influenza because this new strain in its entirety has not been found in swine (pigs).
Amazing this strain has not been found in pigs...let's not let facts get in the way of getting on our soapbox!
pigs are so intelligent, considered more intelligent than dogs, (and my dog is very clever) what disfunctional and cruel existances for these great and beautiful animals
I can't watch these kind of vids anymore. Pigs are such intelligent animals, even more intelligent than dogs.
Science has proven animals have a sharper nervesystem than we have. Most smell, see and hear better than we do so they experience abuse at least as worse as we do.
I'm vegan, I know people will insist on eating meat. And some are dependant on it as their main nutrition since fruit and vegetables are hard to get and very expensive. But some of these people, like the Tibetans, treat them with more respect, don't beat them and kill them with respect. Not only one has to do something about factoryfarming but also about the average view of animals as 'just' animals; things with no feelings like we have and with less value than our material products.
The governments could play an active role in educating people from childhood on schools and in broadcasts. Unfortenately it seems that easy and big money earning is more important than to invest money to better the horrible and sad circumstances of animals in mass industry. Also, as long as one thinks that meat is necessary to be healthy instead of looking at the many vegetarian yogis of India who are on average more healthy than the modern man, it's difficult to change. Vegan is the best way
This must be a joke, right? The flu emanated in Mexico. They don't have factory farms. Also, this is a hybrid flu of bird, human and pig flu. What must have happened is a sick pig, bird and human somehow came into contact with each other. USA media is for the ignorant.
Smithfield Foods, a transnational has massive factory farm operations in Mexico. Do a search and read up on it. They have GIANT factory farms and a lung ailment around the location of where the flu broke out was reported before the flu broke.
What do you think they have, spa's? Their animals are crammed together in close proximity, in inhumane and unsanitary conditions - it's unnatural for ANY species to live like that, as history has shown to result in some type of outbreak. There's every cause for concern when virus's can span species to species, resulting in death and our inability to contain it. Prevention's the only cure.
CDC: Is the H1N1 swine flu virus the same as human H1N1 viruses?
No. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are antigenically very different from human H1N1 viruses and, therefore, vaccines for human seasonal flu would not provide protection from H1N1 swine flu viruses.
Yes, it is definitely time to ban factory farming. Companies like Smithfield that raise animals in these horrible conditions should be made to pay for the costs to individuals and governments of this outbreak.
Well I did not mean it in a bad way mang. Swine flu comes from Cops Feces I mean pigs lol. Then Birds might crap and the pigs might eat there feces. I just cannot figure out how it is Carried by feces and goes to humans.
Quite often, the case is groundwater runoff. What happens is, on meat farms, the farmers allow the animals to defecate all over the place, then wash it out with water, or if the animals are outside, rainwater soaks it. Then the water soaks into the ground or forms trickles or streams of runoff water. Then it gets into wells, groundwater, and irrigation troughs. Then the feces water is used to wash things, water crops & gets ingested. This is what happened with fatal ecoli salmonella listeria etc
ALERT: Everyone should know, a few hours ago, the H1N1 triple hybrid virus was just CONFIRMED INFECTING PIGS.
Once more time (for those a bit slow, like VonBrutal & ed93927) the virus is now in pigs. So the same strain found in humans has just jumped back to animals. And a Hog Farmer did it.
What this means, is that now millions of pigs on factory farms can now be infected & become carriers. Remember, the point is that on confined Factory Farms it spreads like wildfire!
Probably, i dont see why two people gave you a thumbs down i have a fat sack of some bomb back yesterday morning and ahh it was orgasmic!!!! Oh but sorry for rabeling on i just wanted to say you dont derserve those 2 thumbs down, there unnessasry people!
It doesn't matter if a cow is in a field or in a stall, she still suffers from being impregnated once a year and her babies ripped from her so you can drink her breastmilk instead. She still gets killed when her "production" declines.
Free-range eggs...the hens are packed into sheds instead of cages. They still suffer. They are still treated as commodities. They are still killed when egg production declines. All male chicks are still killed for being male.
i get mine of a farm personally though were the owners dont kill there livestock. They let them live out there full lives in open fields etc which is why i know that what im getting hasnt been suffered or tortued
What do they do with the mothers' babies so that you can have their breastmilk for yourself?
What if maybe the mothers do not want to be exploited and treated like property for your benefit? What if maybe they did not want to go through the sufferings of pregnancy, and the emotional pain of child loss so that you could drink her mammary fluid?
And if they live out their full lives, the milk and eggs would have to be EXTREMELY expensive because to let a cow live to her 20's even though her production heavily declines. All the cost of keeping her alive, feeding her, giving her water, when she can't produce enough anymore (cows are spent after 6 years), the milk would have to be raised to an insane price in order for the farmer to make money off of it. But then, no one would buy it.
Aging hens stop laying eggs eventually. Their menstrual cycles stop just like aging humans.
Again the cost of keeping them alive would make the eggs too expensive to be profitable.
And where do the hens come from originally? Probably a hatchery, where the male chicks are killed for being male....usually by being suffocated in bags, thrown into meat grinders alive, or simply thrown into the trash to die slowly.
JVM is a fraud, she uses fear-mongering to snag ratings. People need to quit thinking with their butts and start being critical of tabloid reporting.
cheapcape 3 months ago
People are so ignorant, this has been going on for HOW LONG? LONG. Do your research, the rate at which this is happening is ridiculous, and only getting worse.
HTaylorL 8 months ago
One of the solutions is to buy from small family farms. Farms that respect, love and treat livestock w/ humane handling.
Rainbow Ranch Farms grows free range, grass fed, heritage breed chickens, turkeys, cattle and pigs. Check them out on google "Rainbow Ranch Farms".
NO G.M.O's - NO Corn - NO Soy! Certified Organic Only! Humane handling and all heritage livestock breeds.
Know your food, know your farmer. Know how your food is grown, treated and harvested.
Visit the Farm & Farmers!
XXXXenia 10 months ago
Lol "the story no one else is telling you" i knew WEEKS in advance due to democracy now! thanks ya lying bich.
Neutral1 1 year ago
Good! This is for you people that say, "The more the animal is tortured, the better it tastes." I understand why many people eat animals. Also, some people, like me, are allergic to certain foods. Therefore, it would be difficult for some to become vegetarians. If God said in the Bible that it's okay to eat meat, than it is fine. However, He expects us to treat them humanely. Stop factory farm cruelty and eat organic foods whenever possible.
TheStarWarriorHorse 1 year ago
karma.
HIMlvr789 2 years ago
HSUS is completely useless. Why not end the farming of animals altogether? To do that, everyone should just go vegan. There problem solved!
krisDag17 2 years ago 4
Pork roast is great on the spit in the bbq!
vexacon 2 years ago
@krisDag17 If it weren't for them animal welfare laws would not even be enforced.
IAmTheCthulhu 1 year ago
@krisDag17 No thanks.
chaosproduction 7 months ago
Michael Greger MD rocks!
theguild191 2 years ago
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He needs to eat a bacon, tomato, cheese and mayo sandwich on lightly toasted white bread!
YUMMY!
vexacon 2 years ago
Vexacon, according to Doctor Gregory Gray, Director of The Center for the Study of Emerging Diseases at The University of Iowa, swine flu can jump from pigs to birds or to humans.
Yesterday I saw a video where a genetic researcher studied the, RNA if memory serves, of the swine flu virus. He was able to trace which populations of pigs it mixed with.
So yes, swine flu does come from pigs and it did jump to people.
Please check out a few more videos on swine flu.
Good health to you!
AppleSouffle 2 years ago
Some of these researchers are hard to figure out, it all depends what side their on! Scientists on one side say it's ok, the other say it's not! I'm not going to stop eating pork, unless it's 100% true to what they're saying! Even vegetables are sometimes dangerous to eat, with diseases on them! i don't trust those organic farmers either, as people have a tendency to cheat to make money!
vexacon 2 years ago
Finally, an informed response. Thank you, AppleSouffle. That's why this virus is so hard-core. B/c it DOES jump from swine to human...
Hildihap 2 years ago
That guy's voice is soooooooooo annoying! He sounds like a science nerd who makes money by sucking up to these weird groups!
vexacon 2 years ago
Stop whining. The man is making an important point. This flu is killing children and pregnant women.
His voice is fine. You must be one of those whinging people who complain about nothing all the time. Those people are so annoying.
AppleSouffle 2 years ago
Does that make your goats taste better?
vexacon 2 years ago
Mike that's Nazi propaganda, encouraged by Corporates
stevephilo 2 years ago
This "Swine Flu" was concocted in a lab.
As far as the meat vs vegetable debate, try food vs starvation.
MikePresents2 2 years ago
MHSTZ wrote: "Cows also have 2 stomachs and a cud to break down all that plant fiber. Guess what? Humans don't have a herbivores digestive tract. We are not cows"
Ok then look at the closest relatives humans have, chimpanzees and bonobos are the closest two.. and you can look at gorillas and urangutans...no room here for details but the highest meat eaters there eat far less than humans, and most of them? very nearly-vegan.
But, if you eat meat,get rid of factory farming for public's safety
econdemocracy 2 years ago
"you build up good muscle"...Yes, From Plants!..because of the better quality protein
Here's a quiz. You think you get all this protein from eating that cow, huh, and think that to get protein you have to eat meat.. Hmm. So how'd that Beef come to be solid protein, hm? Does a cow eat meat??-NO!
A BULL gets to be 2 THOUSAND POUNDS OF RIPPLING MUSCLE that can rip a human male in half..by eating Plants! Theres so much protein in plants that it can generate 2,000lbs of muscle! Meat eaters are Fat.
AlumniAdmin835 2 years ago 7
This is true and I am living proof. You passion inspires me.
I used to eat meat, I'm ashamed to say it, but a life changing experience showed me differently. I now don't eat ANY meat.... BTW, strong mints have beef gelatine in them too! Beef in STRONG MINTS! Come on people, something isn't right here!
The lust for flesh literally consumes most people. They can't wait to sink their teeth into another dead animal or fish. When all the while it's killing them inside.
joneselius 2 years ago
really? in mints? i didn't know that. it's pretty scarey that you can find flesh or animal products in almost anything today. it's a good thing i don't like the taste of mint. but thanks for the heads up :)
VeganInfo 2 years ago
Yep.
Pick up a pack of Xtra strong mints and look at the contents.
Gelatine (bovine).
They do this is many, MANY sweets and candy, gets the younguns on those exogenous growth hormones early. Nothing like a ten year old boy with breasts that suit a 34 year old woman.
It's sickening to me. Especially Haribo, they ought be ashamed of themselves.
joneselius 2 years ago
why would they put it in it. Lets act now. c o m
ffatali 2 years ago
Not even just meat but mints and candies have plastic that you eat. Gross... I do not like candy. :]
Wtf stop killing those farm animals so feriously and be nice to the environment plz.
KnexFudge360 2 years ago
the meat part sure in some people thats true but fish noooo oh noooo unless you're eating a fish that is high in mercury like a fucking shark or swordfish its GREAT for you! asians have the longest lifespan solely because our diet consists of fish
KaoruFuma 2 years ago
FYI Eating MEAT is GOOD for you!! It helps you build up good muscle and will make you an all around healthier person! Vegitarians and vegans are the DUMBASSES. Any one who thinks that the pigs are "mistreated" really need to get a clue. Not all facilities are like this. I happen to raise cattle and they are happy as can be. Not only to I raise them but I also show them. They're spoiled rotten! So don't think that you people all know SOOO much about farming.Go out to some feed lots in Southern NE
katesetter 2 years ago
False. MEAT is BAD. Horrible in fact:
-NEWS: "50 more products added to Meat recall Friday"
-NEWS:"Another Death linked to Listeriosis Outbreak in Meat"
-NEWS:"BBQ'd Meat linked to Pancreatic Cancer"=The one killing PatrickSwayze.
NEWS:"Study of 62,500 people shows meat intake linked to girls Cancer of the Ovaries"
NEWS:"Whole foods recalling Ground Beef all over North America"
Oh and smarter too:
NEWS:"Vegetarians Shown to have Higher IQ"
Hence why the name Meat-Head means someone dumb. Proof
AlumniAdmin835 2 years ago
katesetter wrote "Any one who thinks that the pigs are "mistreated" really need to get a clue. Not all facilities are like this. I happen to raise cattle and they are happy as can be. Not only to I raise them but I also show them. They're spoiled rotten"
-Similar words as these were given by Slave owners. Plantation "owners" told how their blacks were spoiled, with room & board, food to eat, etc, and how they treated their slaves so well and they should be grateful to have it so good.
AlumniAdmin835 2 years ago 2
Do you people realize what happens to the beef and pork industries when vegians and vegitarians try to make peopel think that not eating beef and any other meat for that matter make them healthy? My mom is a feed specialist and I've seen a LOT of pig farms go out of buisness just because of the "swine flu" which doesn't even have to do with pigs!!! IT's all bullshit!! Do more research before you make a sure decision.
katesetter 2 years ago
Feed Specialist... Yeah, feed specialist, go ask your "mom" about how she puts Bovine Growth Hormone into that feed of hers. Ask her about female pregnancy hormones implanted into the cattle there, poochie. Melangestrol. Which brings early onset menstruation and breast tissue cancer in girls. Go look up RALGRO. and SYNOVEX, and HEIFERMAX steroid chemicals that are in your Meat, and cause cancer in you & man-boobs in your Dad. Go look them up. Dare you. Go learn whats in your meat, poochie
AlumniAdmin835 2 years ago
Fuck pigs...anyone who eats them is sick as hell....like mentally sick...pigs are so fucking nasty.
Ghoghag 2 years ago
Pigs are not dirty, it is the farming practice. They are highly intellingent creatures.
beckykevin 2 years ago 2
The media silence on this issue essentially amounts to one big fat lie. Makes you wonder all the other issues
peapod8 2 years ago
what a load o SHIT!!!!!!!!
Pigs pump! esp on bread with gravy!
jettman888 2 years ago
The bioindustry will create a virus that can illiminate population.
We need to stop factory farming
racenemo 2 years ago
We do everything to produce cheap meat
EVEN if it my kill us
Strange, isn't it?
racenemo 2 years ago 2
it's so bad how they breed them. sometimes I think the Flu is the penalty now. we make ourselfes sick with doing wrong things...
stillraining1983 2 years ago
nice music
codfanatic4 2 years ago
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You guys can cry all you want guess what factory farming wont be stoped because it gives us good amounts of food at lower prices and second it provides hundreds of jobs you really think the government wants to stops factory farming you guys make me laugh
ed93927 2 years ago
u can laugh now, but the info is there... later maybe will be too late to try to change... just research more, get the info, hope still have time to change...think about it.
dennysdorado 2 years ago
Way to go Jane! Telling it how it is! Thanks for telling the truth, we will win. Only a loving ethical world will survive...your great!
orlandobright 2 years ago 3
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tolszewski 2 years ago
Now listen, I'm not saying that the virus DIDN'T originate on a factory farm, but how are you sure that that's not just the first place it was discovered?
Last time I checked they don't do very much testing of feral pigs, which could actually be equally culpable.
I am only writing this more boring and serious question for the adamant vegans out there, who gave my more witty earlier comment so many thumbs down it can't be seen anymore.
francesca232 2 years ago
Thinking people react to this type of hysterical TV propaganda with skepticism and more questions, not blind fervor.
I was not criticizing being Vegan with my other comment, I was mocking this style of bombastic journalism which smacks of FOX-news-style paranoia, just to the opposite end of the political spectrum.
francesca232 2 years ago
Moar PETA lies and distortions.
budfish41 2 years ago
This is from the CDC - Centers for Disease Control, budfish41 - get an education. Because at the moment you are revealing that you are uninformed & irrelevant.
NEWS: "CDC CONFIRMS TIES TO VIRUS 1ST DISCOVERED IN U.S. PIG FARM"
"An analysis of the H1N1 swine flu virus from humans has revealed that 6 of the 8 genetic segments arose from strains found in 1998 on a factory pig farm in North Carolina"
The DNA segments of the H1N1 pandemic flu originated via Factory Meat Farms.
Confirmed by CDC!
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
Notice once again, that this hog-farmer meat head "budfish41" who is a 41 year old man with pig-slaughtering videos favorited on his page and lacks the capacity to understand simple information is also one of these meat-heads that can't even spell even the smallest words; scribbling "Moar" instead of :More". That's the education level we're dealing with here; the education level of a meat-head.
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
Ah yes...that's it...go for the personal attack. How educated. The name-calling and spelling correction (which, btw, was intentionally meant to suck someone like you in to a response) speak volumes about you.
Let's see...virus found on pig farm = "factory" farming bad.
Wonderful logic!
budfish41 2 years ago
sorry budfish41, im not trying to make a PERSONAL attack, but do NOT go taking stabs at organisations who try to give a voice to creatures on this earth who are considered 'inferior' to people, probably like yourself.
one more thing, why would you be making purposeful spelling mistakes for someone to retaliate to? do you have nothing better to do than cause a fight with people you dont know?
get a life.
peachapplepie2008 2 years ago
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Saying "get a life" and "probably like yourself" = personal attack.
Self-righteous people are hilarious!
budfish41 2 years ago
budfish41 i must say this.
YOU ARE A FOOL.
Nothing more
dzonitheoutlaw 2 years ago
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Silence! I will not tolerate your insolence!
i am prepared to sacrificie a FARM-RAISED CHICKEN at this moment and will put a VOODOO CURSE on each of you unless you PROVE the assertions you make of this apparent "link!"
budfish41 2 years ago
Once again "budfish41" demonstrates intellectual-falure. See, this is the problem with meat eaters, they don't have a very high IQ.
You think you are "hurting" or getting someone else by you eating meat or chicken. You aren't hurting us, you're hurting yourself. When you eat meat, you are effeminizing yourself more. Meat contains female hormones. Chicken contains arsenic. Yes, the poison. (Look it up)
NEWS: "Arsenic Widespread in Chicken, Testing Finds" -IATP
You only poisoned YOURSELF!
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago 3
I mean this is how stupid budfish41 and meat heads such as he, are... A smart person tells them something is contaminated, and not to eat it because it will harm them, and what do they do? They eat it and then go "Har har I got you!"
This is like a knowledgeable person telling someone they shouldn't smoke cigarettes, because it can cause them throat cancer, impotent sperm, and death. And then the person goes "HAH! I just smoked 3 packs! I showed YOU!! Hahaha! I really got you back!"=idiot.
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
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Good morning! I had 3 BEEF TACOS for dinner last night! Factory farm raised beef, I'm sure!
budfish41 2 years ago
This is great! budfish1 just topped himself, in stupidity. See, you're over there *thinking* that you "got me back" by YOU eating meat or something. That didn't do anything to me, in fact, you just harmed yourself! Meat contains FEMALE hormones! implants. There's girl's estrogen & the woman's pregnancy hormone progesterone in what You ate! So you just effeminized yourself. This is why meat eaters often have paunches & man-boobs. You just became less manly & sissified yourself.
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
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LOL - I have been amazed with how easy it is to piss you off and get you to continue down your personal attack trail.
I tire of you. Worship my superiority!
budfish41 2 years ago
im more amused with your own stupidity than pissed off. sorry, but thats how it is.
have a nice day :)
peachapplepie2008 2 years ago
And yet you are still unable to do more than make personal attacks, too.
Worship me, oh childish one!
budfish41 2 years ago
what is your point?
peachapplepie2008 2 years ago
Take a hike, Ms. self-righteous.
budfish41 2 years ago
Okay seeing as the topic is way off the swine flu now, im going to be the first one to act more adult and say just three things, 1. youre now being a hypocrite using personal attacks, 2, i would gladly take a hike beacause at least i wouldnt have to put up with any more pointless garbage from such an imbosile like you, and 3, dont expect any more replies.
peachapplepie2008 2 years ago
Just reminding you of what I told you after your first post: "Saying "get a life" and "probably like yourself" = personal attack."
Oh, and who called who "stupid?"
LMAO - anyone who says "don't expect any more replies" is gauranteed to be checking the next day.
F**k off.
budfish41 2 years ago
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milleniumshop 2 years ago
Since you "SickEVonbrutal666" are obviously of low knowledge level, and not a scientist, but you are an oaf that simply read that you can't get infected with H1N1 virus by *eating* pigs and then you erroneously and falsely concocted out of that the false statement "does not come" from pigs, you are irreputable and debunked. - The virus is a Triple Hybrid, 1/3 of whose DNA genetic component CAME FROM PIGS! On a Factory Farm! Now go get a G.E.D. and learn the right version of "your" as well.
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
Animal rights people have been warning of this for years.. did anyone listen .. NO ! BSE, CJD, AVIAN FLU , TB, SWINE FLU ..why on earth would anyone want to eat animals and take the risk - GO VEGAN !
neesan1 2 years ago 3
parkwayero: it's called swine flu because it originated years ago in swine -and now because of human indecency and hard-heartedness(and your insatiable desire to kill yourselves slowly by eating animals), these animals are kept in close confinement, unhealthy, unhappy, abused & terrorized, spreading disease, and are housed near birds you also eat - also caged in close confinement-and the current strain is now actually a hybrid of bird/swine/human flus. Meat eaters murder everyone.
vegan1dmd 2 years ago 2
We need to take our heads out of our asses when it comes to humane practices on many fronts, but factory farming is where it should start.
Let's evolve already, ok?
This horror is driven by the need for cheap, fast food. How do you think Mickey D's, Sonic, Subway, Arby's et al can fill the stomachs of millions of people a day for .99 cents? Think about it...
bookish01 2 years ago 2
Although called swine flu due to it predominantly containing swine strains, the World Organisation for Animal Health have proposed the name North American influenza because this new strain in its entirety has not been found in swine (pigs).
Amazing this strain has not been found in pigs...let's not let facts get in the way of getting on our soapbox!
parkwayero 2 years ago
Shame on us, humans..,.we have no right to treat this creatures like that!
healinglightspa 2 years ago
pigs are so intelligent, considered more intelligent than dogs, (and my dog is very clever) what disfunctional and cruel existances for these great and beautiful animals
MavisHyacinth 2 years ago
Awesome! Thank you for pointing to the root cause of the issue. Stop eating the animals IS the way to save ourselves from this flu and future flu's.
Paramhansa7 2 years ago
welcome to earth
aquafishsoup 2 years ago
Spray the infected pigs blood on Islamic terrorists and bury with the islmaic dead. End of terror, taking a page from Black Jack Pershing after WW1.
SlowRealization 2 years ago
I can't watch these kind of vids anymore. Pigs are such intelligent animals, even more intelligent than dogs.
Science has proven animals have a sharper nervesystem than we have. Most smell, see and hear better than we do so they experience abuse at least as worse as we do.
arafel1964 2 years ago 2
I'm vegan, I know people will insist on eating meat. And some are dependant on it as their main nutrition since fruit and vegetables are hard to get and very expensive. But some of these people, like the Tibetans, treat them with more respect, don't beat them and kill them with respect. Not only one has to do something about factoryfarming but also about the average view of animals as 'just' animals; things with no feelings like we have and with less value than our material products.
arafel1964 2 years ago 2
The governments could play an active role in educating people from childhood on schools and in broadcasts. Unfortenately it seems that easy and big money earning is more important than to invest money to better the horrible and sad circumstances of animals in mass industry. Also, as long as one thinks that meat is necessary to be healthy instead of looking at the many vegetarian yogis of India who are on average more healthy than the modern man, it's difficult to change. Vegan is the best way
arafel1964 2 years ago 2
This must be a joke, right? The flu emanated in Mexico. They don't have factory farms. Also, this is a hybrid flu of bird, human and pig flu. What must have happened is a sick pig, bird and human somehow came into contact with each other. USA media is for the ignorant.
y2knoproblem 2 years ago
Smithfield Foods, a transnational has massive factory farm operations in Mexico. Do a search and read up on it. They have GIANT factory farms and a lung ailment around the location of where the flu broke out was reported before the flu broke.
kestril9 2 years ago 3
What do you think they have, spa's? Their animals are crammed together in close proximity, in inhumane and unsanitary conditions - it's unnatural for ANY species to live like that, as history has shown to result in some type of outbreak. There's every cause for concern when virus's can span species to species, resulting in death and our inability to contain it. Prevention's the only cure.
GatorNikki 2 years ago 2
CDC: Is the H1N1 swine flu virus the same as human H1N1 viruses?
No. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are antigenically very different from human H1N1 viruses and, therefore, vaccines for human seasonal flu would not provide protection from H1N1 swine flu viruses.
countryfuntime 2 years ago
Her nad the DR sure make themselves look STUPID ! Need to get their facts straight
countryfuntime 2 years ago
misspelling the word "and" doesn't make you look that bright.
VibrantVegan 2 years ago
How many people have to die before meat eaters stop this maddness!!!!!!!!!!!
MidniteForestAngel 2 years ago
BAN FACTORY FARMING NOW!!
When are meat eaters going to go vegan? Are you going to wait until its YOUR family that dies??? GO VEGAN!
MidniteForestAngel 2 years ago 3
Go Vegan!
mtc7677 2 years ago
This is Mother Nature give us a wake-up call to go VEGAN! For the Animals, for our health, for the planet!
veggiegirl69 2 years ago 3
Oh its made in a lab, dont listen to mainstream
KARStarla 2 years ago
Yes, it is definitely time to ban factory farming. Companies like Smithfield that raise animals in these horrible conditions should be made to pay for the costs to individuals and governments of this outbreak.
Lily8980 2 years ago 5
make a difference
make a statement
make a change
go vegan!
kangarooelaine 2 years ago 4
Ya make a difference!
Go kill yourself
Then these farming industries would not worrie about making alot of food and this problem wouldnt happen, less people less problems
Oh and im glad this new flu is here, im excitied cant wait till it gets near my city, BRING ON THE SICKNESS!
SickEVonBrutal666 2 years ago
is that news reporter on drugs or had a red bull nighter or somthing lol
bunglebeans29 2 years ago
Oh yeah Blame Farming. I say Blame Humans
PantherCamaro 2 years ago
Um...who do you think has created and is running these farms? Don't worry, humans are definitely at the root the problem....
GatorNikki 2 years ago 2
Like i said before kill yourself, unless your not a human, then kill humans.
SickEVonBrutal666 2 years ago
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Then kill yourself, or are you some other type of animal that thinks its bettter then us humans? but what are the chances of that?
SickEVonBrutal666 2 years ago
your being a big meanie and a douche
PantherCamaro 2 years ago
Alright but im not sure why your saying that. Explain to me would you
SickEVonBrutal666 2 years ago
Well I did not mean it in a bad way mang. Swine flu comes from Cops Feces I mean pigs lol. Then Birds might crap and the pigs might eat there feces. I just cannot figure out how it is Carried by feces and goes to humans.
PantherCamaro 2 years ago
Any infuenza virus is airbourne ,, this new strain is now passing from human to human and there is currently no vaccine !
neesan1 2 years ago 2
Quite often, the case is groundwater runoff. What happens is, on meat farms, the farmers allow the animals to defecate all over the place, then wash it out with water, or if the animals are outside, rainwater soaks it. Then the water soaks into the ground or forms trickles or streams of runoff water. Then it gets into wells, groundwater, and irrigation troughs. Then the feces water is used to wash things, water crops & gets ingested. This is what happened with fatal ecoli salmonella listeria etc
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago 3
Thanks you for the detailed Explanation it all makes a bit more sense to me now thanks you very much.
PantherCamaro 2 years ago
By the way:
ALERT: Everyone should know, a few hours ago, the H1N1 triple hybrid virus was just CONFIRMED INFECTING PIGS.
Once more time (for those a bit slow, like VonBrutal & ed93927) the virus is now in pigs. So the same strain found in humans has just jumped back to animals. And a Hog Farmer did it.
What this means, is that now millions of pigs on factory farms can now be infected & become carriers. Remember, the point is that on confined Factory Farms it spreads like wildfire!
CieloMarinaris 2 years ago
OMG! You are actually able to write coherent sentences!
Yet you know about 20% of what you think you know about farming - lol.
budfish41 2 years ago
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Is this what TV is like? It seems so hysterical. Why is that weird looking lady pointing and shouting at me? Is it because I love bacon?
francesca232 2 years ago
Probably, i dont see why two people gave you a thumbs down i have a fat sack of some bomb back yesterday morning and ahh it was orgasmic!!!! Oh but sorry for rabeling on i just wanted to say you dont derserve those 2 thumbs down, there unnessasry people!
SickEVonBrutal666 2 years ago
Once again Jane Velez-Mitchell reports with sincere conviction and speaks the truth.
iamsoycatty 2 years ago
You go Jane! They're going to kill a million pigs in an american factory in Mexico.
hollywoodjinky 2 years ago
Factory farming conditions must be reformed to stop the devastating risks of deadly diseases.
animalshelteruser 2 years ago
Humans kill animals, and in return, they kill us.
Revenge?
Go vegan!
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago 5
im sticking to being a vegetarian - but making sure the eggs, cheese etc i get is free range!
bunglebeans29 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if a cow is in a field or in a stall, she still suffers from being impregnated once a year and her babies ripped from her so you can drink her breastmilk instead. She still gets killed when her "production" declines.
Free-range eggs...the hens are packed into sheds instead of cages. They still suffer. They are still treated as commodities. They are still killed when egg production declines. All male chicks are still killed for being male.
Please don't support "happy" slavery.
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago
i get mine of a farm personally though were the owners dont kill there livestock. They let them live out there full lives in open fields etc which is why i know that what im getting hasnt been suffered or tortued
bunglebeans29 2 years ago
What do they do with the mothers' babies so that you can have their breastmilk for yourself?
What if maybe the mothers do not want to be exploited and treated like property for your benefit? What if maybe they did not want to go through the sufferings of pregnancy, and the emotional pain of child loss so that you could drink her mammary fluid?
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago
And if they live out their full lives, the milk and eggs would have to be EXTREMELY expensive because to let a cow live to her 20's even though her production heavily declines. All the cost of keeping her alive, feeding her, giving her water, when she can't produce enough anymore (cows are spent after 6 years), the milk would have to be raised to an insane price in order for the farmer to make money off of it. But then, no one would buy it.
I don't believe the cows live into their 20's.
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago 2
Aging hens stop laying eggs eventually. Their menstrual cycles stop just like aging humans.
Again the cost of keeping them alive would make the eggs too expensive to be profitable.
And where do the hens come from originally? Probably a hatchery, where the male chicks are killed for being male....usually by being suffocated in bags, thrown into meat grinders alive, or simply thrown into the trash to die slowly.
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago
You are still exploiting someone, treating him/her like property, and taking what's not yours.
I'm pregnant myself. Would you take away my child and steal MY breastmilk?
Cow's milk is for baby cows.
VeganButterfly 2 years ago
VeganButterfly you are a truly amazing person, if you can make people understand things like that, than you will truly make a great mother.
tevakings 2 years ago
Behind the Myth: Happy Cows
watch?v=6UGBT8PttB8
Milk Comes from Grieving Mothers - Truth About Organic Dairy
watch?v=_kM387cI4rk
Behind the Myth: Cage Free Eggs
watch?v=rZ0YWK3Fwgc
The Faces of "Free-Range" Farming
watch?v=Z7Gbq3lkKwY
There is nothing "free" or "happy" about exploitation, confinement, and slaughter.
StopSpeciesism 2 years ago 2
"Free-range" animal exploitation is anything but humane...
All the label does is make humans feel better about exploiting and killing non-humans for their own unnecessary pleasures.
Please research "free-range myth".
It virtually does NOTHING for animals. It sure brings more profit to the meat/egg/dairy industries though!
VeganButterfly 2 years ago
I think factory farming and having animals in overcroweded conditions contributed towards this.
I'd love to see factory farming stopped!
fluffypolarcat 2 years ago 9
Dr. Greger looks great on TV!
adamdurand 2 years ago
Dr. Greger tells it like it is.
rquerry10 2 years ago