Reason.tv's Nanny of the Month For January 2010 (Get Angry, Snoop Dogg!)

[SuperGuitarman69]

We need an amendment in the constitution. That amendment should be for every new law that any official makes? 10 laws must be repealed. You do that? They won't be writing any new laws.

[AnarchisThinker]

@SuperGuitarman69 You might not really be decreasing them either, since politicians get into office for power almost all the time, not to help people.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@AnarchisThinker True, but wouldn't it be nice to see them arguing over which laws to repeal for a change? That would force them to carefully consider all new laws

[AnarchisThinker]

@SuperGuitarman69 Yeah, it would. ^^ I'd love it to see all the politicians supported by the laws pushing the need to cancel laws to other laws for other politicians who are supported by those other laws. :P

[nicmart]

On her Facebook page, the mayor pro tem of the Diamond Bar city council, Ling-Ling Chang includes this as one of her favorite quotes: "Well-behaved women rarely make history."

[democratsdid9ll]

i will freebase crunch berries and there's nothing they can do to stop me

[ObamaIsDaAntiChrist]

There's always a true government. There's always some group at the top controlling shit.

[beneehall]

Banning trans fats is a proper, public health move. Not different at all from banning mercury compounds from pickles that made them look and stay green longer.

Trans fats have been shown to be a major factor in artery disease. Since trans fats were invented, coronary diseases have grown steadily to epidemic proportions.

I agree with the concept that nannyism interferes with our freedoms but the trans fat issue is not one of them.

[gjc82071]

I can't find any info regarding how citizens of Diamond Bar actually feel about the ban? I can't believe that an entire town would fold to the whim of 4 humorless morons in cheap suits, unless they agreed? If that is how the majority of the town wishes to live, so be it, but if not, the should openly defy it, but also not vote them out, but immediately dismiss or impeach the "Town Elders" BTW, "Foot Loose" was a good "movie" but I thought it was based on fiction, not the town of Diamond Bar?

[MuammarAlGathafi]

The political prisoners in my country Libya, enjoy more freedoms than the average American does in their country.

[yesilike101]

Socialized health care my ass, how about assembly line medical care, now serving #213477444. Oop sorry Im on a break. Next window please. Some people dont associates negativity with socialism, but assembly line will get their attention

Help, the pro healthcare websites stop posting my comment. If you like my message, please help circulates. Just copy and paste.

[Daisytoo]

Are you going to give a Nanny Award to NYC for their attempt in March, 2010, to ban the use of SALT by restaurant chefs?

Hope so.

[Joe402]

wow out of all the things in the world to whine about it has to be the most mundane shit ever you libertarians sure do know how to prioritize your fights.

[Frances3654]

you are an idiot

[Joe402]

Lobbyists are literally sucking America dry and the barely-regulated banks are destroying economies but MY TRANS FATS!!!

[Frances3654]

the trans fat issue affects americans directly, we americans love our food tasty

[Joe402]

Yeah well I love not being fucked by the under-regulated free market.

[Frances3654]

@Joe402

well then go to north korea

[Joe402]

Or I could go to Canada. Even Costa Rica has better health care than us.

[Joe402]

well then go to somalia they have no regulations there

[Frances3654]

somalia does have the regulations, just from a different authority, if you start a business in somalia, malitia's will rob and kill you

[Joe402]

@Frances3654

AT LEAST IT'S NOT RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!! I AM A CHILD LITERALLY aaAAA

[Frances3654]

it doesent matter who the authority is, the point is that somalia is not a free country

[Joe402]

@Frances3654

But they don't have a functioning government by Libertarian standards that's LIBERTY to the max.

[Frances3654]

its not libertarian buddy

[FFarmerCharlie]

@Frances3654 Somalia is under control mainly by the Muslims, theres no true government, but is Sharia law any better?

[getnick77]

new subscriber this was great can't wait for the next nanny

[harihariharihar]

Please, anyone come see my favorites, they will change the world!

[Silvsilvchan]

You know, I recall a time trans-fats were considered good because those evil saturated fats that show up naturally in food were evil because of Lipid Hypothesis. (More like LIEpid Hypothesis)

No shit artificially produced foods are bad for you. But their popularity was the fault of the government in the first place.

[wdcsucks1]

why did the NWO provide any freedoms in the first place? oh, to get all of your kids to join the army and fight the empires wars (in the name of freedom...)

[natdavi]

So freedom is slavery?

[truvelocity]

trans fats do cause heart disease.  So, I agree.

[MarkG45]

uh, transfats are incredibly unhealthy and the only reason they are used is that they are cheap.

You could make the same video smearing banning lead from gasoline with the same logic.

[atldru15]

Mark - Except the point of the cookie example is that you don't eat cookies because they contain vital nutrients. All you're concerned with is enjoying a taste. With gasoline, you NEED to fill up your car.

[FatherTime89]

@MarkG45

Lead in gasoline also hurts the environment from what I hear and no one can say the same thing about trans fats.

It should be our own business if we want to eat unhealthy foods or not.

[Silvsilvchan]

1: The only reason transfats are used is because idiots went on a crusade against saturated fats. 2: No, because lead in gasoline is harmful to the environment and harmful to people who are not using it.

Transfats only hurt the persons stupid enough to consume them.

Now if you wanted to say I could make the same argument saying the same things about self mutilation then you'd be right.

I really should make a video against the notion of banning self mutilation. =P

[RogueSwordThesco]

What the hell?

[Thorbie]

PUT THAT COOKIE DOWN FTW!

[FatherTime89]

Aw I thought reason would've said "here's to you council members, now go fuck yourselves."

Is there even a reason for this madness or do they just want to ban something because it makes them feel important.

[bigdogsdontbark]

Liberals are good for telling everyone what is good and bad for them, the problem is that they dont take their own advice. Like Al Gore who tells everyone to reduce their carbon footprint yet flys in private jets and pays thousands per month in power bills at his mansion in Tennessee.

[qualityrkc]

bigdogs get your partisan trolling the fuck outa here. Everyone with half a brain knows that both dems and repubs are equally corrupt and useless.

[greenback001]

Nazi-commie scumbags run all big governments.

[TRUTH1975DE]

@coffeebuzzz:

You miss the point and you're wrong on soo many levels. In a free society, a free marketplace will regulate itself. If you don't like transfats - don't eat them. If you do eat them, then man up and blame yourself - not some company. If you do not care about yourself enough not to eat unhealthy food, why should we legislate it?

[coffeebuzzz]

I think you might be missing the point. The point is trans-fats ARE NOT FOOD, yet they were being passed off as food. They are only in the food chain because some industrial chemists made them, and they did this solely to make profit.

I personally don't eat any of that crap, but there are people out there that just do not have the education or knowledge to make an informed decision. I understand we shouldn't have to legislate stuff like this, but unfortunately, we do.

[HeadTater]

So everyone but you is too stupid to decide what to eat without help from the government?

Anyone who has ever watched 5 minutes of TV or read a couple pages of a newspaper/magazine know that trans fats are bad for you. Even if there is a truly ignorant minority out there, enough people know better that truly dangerous products would no longer be profitable to make and thus be discontinued without government intervention.

Tyranny always begins with the best of intentions.

[coffeebuzzz]

If you interpret 'there are people out there', as everyone but me, then yes, the Government does need to help people like you.

See, even though I made it clear that it was only some people that need this help, you got it wrong, which proves my point. Justy writing something on the food package might not be seen, or understood correctly.

[HeadTater]

But by banning things like trans fats because morons like me (sarcasm btw) can't take care of themselves without a little help from the gov't, you also restrict the availability of those products to people who do know but simply don't care. Then you also get to the fact that the gov't doesn't have the right to restrict something like that even if it is for our own good. Maybe they could have warning labels like those on cigarettes on products containing trans fats.

[coffeebuzzz]

"Maybe they could have warning labels like those on cigarettes on products containing trans fats"

Ya Think?, of course you should label something that is being passed off as food (when it's not), informing consumers this is in fact poison and not food.

Btw, I thought you were against regulation?

[HeadTater]

I am against regulations but I also support truth in advertising which I believe is one of the few legit regulations. I am also pragmatic to a certain degree. A simple "Warning: Contains trans fats which can be dangerous to your health" label informs the consumer (even the dumbest ones) that the food isn't exactly healthy but does not prevent them from consuming if they choose to disregard the warning like a ban or sin tax might.

[HeadTater]

But, if trans fats became such a big issue to consumers, products would be labeled trans fat free. This is actually already happening (especially with butter and margarine products). Truth in advertising laws would prevent wrongful claims and the consumer would, if it mattered to them, buy only products that advertised as trans fat free allowing the market to sort it out.

[Daisytoo]

Just list the ingredients and leave it to the consumer to decide if they ought to be warned. I drink coffee .. should coffee have a warning label? Or tea? Or sugar? Or butter? Or salt? Or eggs? Or Tofu? Does my organic French bread need a warning label cautioning me not to overeat it? I don't think so.

[pudodrewculous]

@TRUTH1975DE

lmao! Nice!

[tripfunkmonster]

@TRUTH1975DE You're right that we shouldn't overlegislate but way wrong on the marketplace comment. NO, the marketplace will not regulate itself. That's the type of twisted propaganda that destroyed our economy. When will you people stop regurgitating that stupid piece of soundbite bile? Look around. No, the marketplace can't regulate itself. Greedy sociopaths will take, take & take more. Then, they'll take more. We are indoctrinated into the state religion of Capitalism - greed & selfishness.

[qricketvid]

Let them eat cake.....as long as it's not too tasty

[haypenny]

I remember when Arnold was a huge admirer of Ron Reagan. Now look at him; he's a crazy liberal who calls himself a Republican, who married into the Kennedy dynasty. Yikes. Arnie's not even a Neo-Co, he's just a RINO. It's sad, because He's a decent man. Unlike Reagan, too much time in Hollywood made Arnold weak.

[HeadTater]

He's become a girly-man.

If you look at it, Reagan wasn't all that conservative. In fact, he was a New Deal-Democrat before Joe McCarthy. The Gipper switched parties to avoid the witch-hunt. Reagan was more of a mild-neocon.

[haypenny]

Reagan was a Conservative, not in line ideologically with either democrats or neo-cons. He famously said, "I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me."

Few neo-cons recognized Reagan as a kindred spirit or leader who might stem the tide. An example is neo-con James Q. Wilson, who confessed not only that he didn't sympathize with Reagan, but that "even if I thought like that, which I don't, I would never write it down anywhere my colleagues at Harvard might read it."

[HeadTater]

But Reagan was not a strict conservative either. I do believe him to be among the most conservative presidents since the Depression, but he was hardly the archetypal conservative. I respect Reagan, but the government and the deficit ballooned under his administration.

That said, I would much rather have a prez from the Reagan school than the FDR/LBJ/Obama school. And Obama is more of a Republican than Arnold.

[haypenny]

I don't believe any thinking person is strictly, 100% on their party line. To me, a complete purist is someone who's following someone else's lead. I think the modern Left is a perfect example of that kind of virulent rigidity and group-think. I would never say Obama is to the right of Arnie! Arnie is just weak, and after all, his constituents are liberal. Obama may appear slightly to the right on some issues, but is otherwise so far left that it makes little difference. Nice talking to you.

[Wasp16mm]

California is not the golden state it's now the ban it state!

[noiwudnttrip]

Why the hell is Snoop Dogg talking about the LBC all the time? Diamond Bar is the polar opposite of Long Beach.

[Poofykatoob]

Arnold <3

The last dudes though.. </3

[Wormtail81]

The family of a friend of mine in Mexico owns a bar. Apparently this socialist became the new regional administrator, and she went around their city shutting down any place that didn't have 'a dance-floor license.' Restaurants and bars in Mexico already need tons of licenses, one for a bar, for each drink, etc.

Y'all, this is pretty similar.

[caraclaudel]

I agree that this should be left up to the market, BUT trans fats don't make cookies taste good. They are very unhealthy fats used to prolong shelf life, not for taste. We need to return to traditional fats recognizable in nature. We can have much healthier junk food...and it can taste better, too. It just won't last for five years on the shelves.

[HeadTater]

But that doesn't mean Arnold has any right to ban them. What I want to eat is my own business, not the government's (so long as I am not infringing on the rights of other people).

[d0861]

I want to eat a cake. Now what I eat is your business!

 :o)

[coffeebuzzz]

Radioactive waste and hebicides are banned from our food as well, should we remove those non-food additives from the banned list?

Trans fats were only used to increase profits to food substance processors. They couldn't give a shit about your wellbeing, you need to regulate these companies or they would start putting any crap in your food and just say, 'it's up to theconsumer to make their own decision on consuming it'.

Trans-fats are not present in nature, why should they be in our food?

[f007scott]

as long as the company does not mislead the consumer into thinking that there are not herbicides or radioactive waste in their food... the consumer should be free to choose what they want

force and fraud(which would be your example) are the only things a government can logically prohibit

personally, I might buy some of that food just to say I did (yes, I am using a reducio ad absurdium on a reducio ad absurdium)

[HeadTater]

It's hard to sell a product to dead people isn't it? Companies have an incentive to sell the customer what they want because, if they don't make a product people will buy, they lose money. As long as truth in advertising is maintained, people should be safe. If someone doesn't care if they eat trans fats or whatever, that is their business and the gov't has not place to keep them from doing so. The typical mindset of the nanny state supporter is to think everyone is too stupid to think.

[Daisytoo]

Neither is sugar. It's bad for you and me. Should we ban it? And not to get too personal, but coffee is not exactly healthy either. Ban it? Or not?

[coffeebuzzz]

But sugar is a natural product, trans fats are not.

[Daisytoo]

Thinking more about this - could a realistic solution be to label food and food substitutes differently? A case in point would be American 'cheese' slices - which are called (oddly, really) 'food products'. Sugar is difficult, since it's so highly refined that it's almost unrecognizable as sourced from sugar cane. But of course, so is Tofu an entirely different matter than the soybeans that made it possible!

I must admit that I have NO problem w/the warnings on alcohol re: pregnant women. Hmm?

[nonantianarchist]

True, but they started using products with trans fats because there was an uproar about saturated fats earlier, so they switched to oils that had trans fats to increase shelf life.

[Altoman5]

I hope the people in Diamond Bar plan to kick these so-called leaders out. The last thing a city needs is to prevent people from creating new clubs, restaurants and businesses that can create jobs and provide competition which is needed to simulate an economy.

These council members need to reduce their paychecks and be investigated for any corruption charges.

[thughug22]

why would you need a permite for karrioki at your bar? It's your fucking bar.

[nonantianarchist]

"why would you need a permite for karrioki at your bar? It's your fucking bar."

*sarcasm on* Oh, how hopelessly bourgeois of you. Don't think of it as the proprietor's bar. Don't you know, it is the people's bar, and the people hate karaoke.

*sarcasm off*

I hear ya, man.

[thughug22]

@nonantianarchist HAHA I like how you turned the sarcasm on and off.

[FaithlessLiberty]

They know what is good for us.. cof cof... BULLSHIT!

[VerbotenDingleberry]

Bootleg House!

[Liberty4UandMe]

Abolish government and you will prosper! And you won't have to waste your time and energy on these tyrants we call politicians. See The Center for a Stateless Society.

[Eterna1Soldier]

"Without government, there can be no freedom"

A stateless society cannot exist. Anarchy creates violence and death, causing the people to turn to those who can best protect them (often the people promoting the anarchy and violence to begin with). Anarchy is simply a tool for government change. And then shebang. You're back with an Oligarchy.

Most people think we are a democracy. We are not. We are a Republic. We are bound by the rule of law. Unfortunately out politicians seem to forget this.

[averagejoe040]

Isn't that exactly what happens to government?. Evern when you have a government system that works fine - it won't last. Governments get bigger and bigger and more and more controlling unti they have to be overthrown just to get them off your back.

[Eterna1Soldier]

But that's exactly how our system of government is designed. Currently we have checks in balances to prevent one branch of government from becoming too powerful. If that fails and one branch takes over, or all 3 go under one groups control, we have the right to change it.

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

[nonantianarchist]

"Currently we have checks in balances to prevent one branch of government from becoming too powerful. "

Yeah, tell me when that keeps the government from being stupid and tyrannical, I'd love to hear about it.

[averagejoe040]

@Eterna1Soldier,

I agree with you. Our government was well designed by great men. Unfortunately, the assholes of the world have been working at subverting that design for over 80 years. The constitution means nothing to Obama. He just recently chastised the Supreme Court for upholding the First Amendment. Our government routinely violates the constitution. Crony capitalistism lives side by side with marxism in D.C.

Only a precious few in D.C. really want to abide by our constitution.

[yakyakyak69]

Progressives SUCK!

[ParaBlood]

lol

[Raycheetah]

Who the hell elects people like this? =0[.]o=

[obama200]

The sad part is that these nannies are paid by our tax dollars.

[cstfoster555]

LOL "Put That Cookie Down" remix!

[oldhacks]

they ban live performances to help their buddys in the mafia have a monopoly on live music bars.

it's typical around here. they're not trying to get rid of live music. just ordinary people's right to MC such events. only people who can afford the permit is the mafia and they don't always have to pay.

pay to play. thats why having politicians running the country instead of citizens is a bad idea. absolute power corrupts

[ND066]

Its Crony-Capitalism at its finest.

[andristic]

...absolutely :)

[ForTehNguyen]

Deine Transfat Papieren, bitte!

[lukeedwardsimmons]

Where's Mary Poppins to pop a cap in there ass when you need her?

[navtel]

there are too many figgin laws..!

[singlespeak]

I vote we ban the city counsel from earning a paycheck in Diamond Bar, since they don't want entertainers to earn a living there.

[Bear5177]

@singlespeak

Agreed. Guaranteed reversal once a new "ban" starts hitting lawmakers, counsels, etc. right where their wallets are.

[bigc028282]

Wonder which party is represented by this group of retards???? It's time to enforce the LOGAN ACT!

[Mastikator]

It's hard to decide whether to laugh or cry at the nannys.

[Daisytoo]

Or whether to sock 'em in the jaw. Oh wait, it just became easier :)