Paul Levinson vs. Bill O'Reilly on Abu Ghraib media coverage

[hmha15]

Bold face liar. While it's true it will hurt your soldiers when released it is clear the "enemy" does not get their news from fox, therefore, it is clear your primary concern is concealing horrors of war from your American viewers.

[lluke9]

Of course the footage should be shown. If an act is too atrocious or disgusting to show to the public, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.

Anyone can claim that it's propaganda-- but the thing is, it's the truth.

[PLev20062006]

@lluke9 Exactly!

[Norwification]

How can he call his guest a moron? He clearly reacts very badly to criticism, especially when he can't lean on one of his other guests as backup for his position.

He's right about the maximum information thing. Fox isn't on air in Canada because it doesn't meet the impartial requirement of anything calling itself news. Because lying to the public is doing the real disservice that poisons democracy.

[PLev20062006]

@Norwification Yes, indeed.



[punkeratheart]

"I didn't wanna give that footage to the enemy"

If my son was treated the way that the prisoners were treated in abu ghraib and Bill O'Reilly worked to suppress the truth about it, his home would be a raging inferno before he even had time to wake up and put on his makeup and run out the door. If seeing the truth "incites hatred for our troops" then "our troops" should stop committing atrocities.

[eanbardsley]

Horrid it is, but if we don't face the horrid truth of what is going on over there, Paul is right, there will never be change in a democracy.

[PLev20062006]

@mkadams99 You don't know what you're talking about. Is there a survey you can cite which proves your second point? If not, you're just spouting inflammatory nonsense.

[Killuminati911]

Why does Oreilly got supporters??

[Okridiculous1]

Bill O'Reilly who is this guy???? He never interviews anyone he just injects his own opinion over and over again.

[shhkdd]

I luv how bill orielly says that its "Proporganda" cuz it is true. But all of his SHOWS are proporganda. Its like proporganda on top of good proporganda. I rele hate bill o rellie but i gave him another chance. frankly i am dissappointed AGAIN

[YellowStringStudios]

Oreilly is an idiot.

[SecularSaracen]

If it was Iraqi soldiers abusing US marines it would be world news and there would be a campaign of demonization of the Iraqi people... Or did that already happen.

[adisailoveu]

to bill oriley: i pray that u rott in hell.u r a joke and a pin head.u r aracist against arabs and blacks.i wish u could tast some torture from thos soliders so u can feel what they feel. the soilders have been fighting and yet have not brought themselves any honor. nor will they nor will u on ur show. no honor to america , no one like america. u have no value. ur a moron. u deserved to be tortured some day. i hope the new goverment will shut down ur show and burn ur studio. pin head. rottinhell

[briggshummel915]

i hope that one day you wake up and realize how vile you were in your comment...bill oreilly is a commentator and a news analyst and does not deserve any of the above...i watch him all the time and he has some value to me and i would guess others...get your head right and don't post this garbage

[shhkdd]

@briggshummel915 And you kno wat Bill Oreilly is the most watch news in america. Which is scary bc to think wat most american thinks about the world and epecially middle east. one word WOW.

[husky720]

Yeah dude I don't like O'Reilly either but that was uncalled for and immature. Fortunately your pin-headed comment is written so poorly it takes away any little merit you had to begin with.

[Bakhta87]

bill o'riellys mother is and and have been a prostitude for some years now.. and hes father likes to ride horses, but not at their back but on their cock.. and he him self will one beautiful day get raped by an Iraqi who probably lost he's whole family in the war.. all this because he is the most evil face that you see on TV every day.. ALL propaganda and shit... WE ARE ALL HUMAN.. NO ONE IS MORE WORTH THEN SOMEONE ELSE!!.. TO BAD MANY US SOLDIERS GOT NO HUMANITY!

[yosi120885]

young geeeeeeezzzzzziiiiieeeee

bill sux ass

[YESobamaCANfuckupUSA]

o'riley is a jinyas

[indysuperdave]

Fuck you Billo the clown you suck

[Jugador149]

Mark Bowdan is a fucking tool.

[BeemerGuy01]

MSNBC is killing Fox btw in ratings and little ole O'Riley is crying about it saying their is a conspiracy. O'Riley needs to just crawl back under his rock where he came from. Do you see why his ratings are so low? The guys is a fucking idiot!

[Chyrnobil]

I didn't say anything about fox news being any better than any other media outlet. The ratings speak for themselves and fox is at the top. Bad news could be good for ratings, but its about the liberal media wanting this thing to fail for their hate for bush and the admisnistration. Im no bush lover, but when media outlets show these images over and over, it angers more krazy muslims.. thus creating an even bigger danger for our troops. Disagreeing is fine. Being a radical liberal is not.

[noorabdilahi]

nucken88 ...........u pussy ass bitch, come and seem in MPLS mather-fucker if you can kill muslims or tell me where u stay at, i swear i will blow your off...mather-fucker

[U275]

o'reilly, you're just a little piece of shit.

[nucken88]

i have no problem in killing them nasty muslims terrorist kill all of them fuck them all

[jampt1989]

Yeah, O'Reilly didn't show the photos because it would fuel hatred to US troops. How many people does he think watch the O'Reilly Factor in Iraq and if they do, his ongoing controversy would fuel way more hatred

[Chyrnobil]

damn you are stupid... wether O'Reilly is shown in Iraq is not the point. The point is, other Media like ABC, CNN, BBC show these images... how stupid can you be not to understand that. I'ts just amazing how ignorant people are. Go die in a house fire, and take your worthless family with u

[jampt1989]

Oh yeah because fox is so much better. Obviously there is going to be media bias in regards to Iraq, bad news is good news because it's better for ratings. I'm stupid? I think you are much more stupid telling me to die in a house fire just because i disagree with you, you are obviously a firm believer in democracy

[MaxSluiman]

Bill O Reilly would rather have worked for Joseph Goebbels.

[TwoThirdsMajority]

O'Relly is a sick human being. It's not the US soldiers, UK troops nor the reporters that deserves to be beheaded, it's stupid pundits like O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh and Savage that needs to have their heads chopped off so that they won't say anything that supports this stupid un-constitutional and hated war.

[Yukkid]

Binladen Vs Bush Let The Garbage Take Care Of The Garbage Fuck Binladen & Fuck Bush!

Power To The People Cuz The People Want Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reynadelmundo]

I am not your refelexion and my values aren't thank god for that to! So look at the real idiot eating up on fictional wars to be won and a fictional democracy. Go and get detoxicated please...AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS NOT IF=GNORANT SHEEP FOLLOWERS TO THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT THAT ISN'T PUTTING PPLS MONEY INTO GOOD USE. THE ECONOMIES DOWN ALREADY...DOES THAT RING THE BELL?

[adisailoveu]

Rock on xytccd, i agree man , oriley can care less about iraq. his show is only for money and ratings. he soesnt care , hes a super pro bush , and a super fox lier. I think everyone should watch orilley and Moore. i think it explains a lot.

[OPN3rdEYE]

I want to be O' Reilly's friend. Only honest commentary on TV. Oh, xytccd, you're a moron. Republicans AND Democrats are tards. Don't sell yourself to a party. There are "get it" guys and "don't get it " guys. Obviously you're the latter.

[kavehmn]

if you really believe in what you are saying, you just need to read more. mother fucker like bill oreilly is just a jerk moran who is playing other prople's game. and he doesn't give a shit about anything but money just like his boss.

[xytxccd]

No Bill, you wouldn't use the pictures you coward. You Republican anti-Christs don't want people to see the pictures-they reflect your heart. You love it, feed on it, promote it, condone it....you Republicans are all a bunch or bible toting, pedophilic, torturing monsters. You just keep your sins in the closet. Unless of course someone you're pervertedly sexually harassing sues you...huh Bill? GoToH***!

[Northgrant]

Those pics of the prison should not be shown as they give fire to the enemy. Pictures of marines killing terrorists should be allowed because, well, that is what war is. If the public does not like that, they are most likely dumbocrats that want to see the US and Britain fail.

[reynadelmundo]

It is not a War, and invasion there is no win-win situation or a win-lose. It's all a lose-lose. Soldeirs who are brainwashed to accpet to invade lose and the people in those invaded countries lose to. It's all propaganda. The soldiers serving the U.S and soldiers serving Canada and Britain are ennemies to the governement like the people they attack for invented reasons. If the solidiers were so dear to Government they wouldn't send them to ruin land!

Reynadelmundo

VOTE FOR RON PAUL 2008

[Northgrant]

Oh give me a break you idiot! If you haven't noticed we are WINNING so pull your head out of your ass. Vote ron paul the so-called 'republican candidate' for defeat! (I think he belongs to the demoncrats; he may be confused).

[richardman102]

we british and american people are civilized people civilized countries educated people who enjoy the fruits of democracy so we have to spread the democracy to the ather countries specialy mulim countries, this event at abugharib is just part of spreading democracy, you have to understand the reason behind this.we are lebrating iraqis from sadam

[reynadelmundo]

Yea, educated to forget and to kill without honor.When you do something with honor you are completely aware of your situation.The soldiers of Britain and the United States are lied to.The Government of U.S and Britain see opportunities by using lives to make more money and have more power. More more,States without limits are ROGUE STATES.The media makes people like you their friends and soldiers their guns.The media is a tool to sell lies to the public. Education and media in U.S is a failure!

[reynadelmundo]

Yea like the U.S who took Puerto Rico...sorry gringo style (Porto Rico) from Spain. Yea now under U.S rule this innocent Island sees druggy days, whores and scandals. It's become like Cuba that was in the 50's...a playground for the rich!

[forwardmarch]

George Washington ordered to treat the British prisoners of war with dignity, despite the fact that England was beheading and torturing Americans, to show what kind of a nation America was. Neocon Republican parrotheads spout off about "demoncrats" "defending" terrorists simply because they live up to expectations of our forefathers AND THE WORLD (Geneva Convention).

[balsam3]

bill o'reily is a rude pig, he sounds like a 10 year old boy and he NEVER makes a good point

[slimwasim]

news reporter is funny he says that we should not let truth come out ...if that is media then that is cool he agrees that media should be one sided favoring one country, and even if people of other countries suffer the worst, should be ignored that is wat he means cool, fox sucks their brains have rust, amazing just dumb people, abu ghraib is a reality we cannot forget and the purpose to uncover it is to stop such acts and get those to justice who are responsible very simple...

[mismindles]

I looked at the Abu Graib pictures on my own but didn't watch Nick Berg b/c it's too graphic 4 me. I have that right. Kids watch TV too. If my 11 yr old tender-hearted son saw that he'd be diturbed 4ever. No1 wants 2 admit it but there's some kid sitting in front of TV enjoying the brutal torture too. I'm sure the columbine boys would 'v loved it.

[drnoj1]

Keep it up Paul; Seriously there are very few situations in which less information is helpful. O'Reilly is wrong; the fact is we don't know what happend and that's why we need to see everything.

[PLev20062006]

thanks - your analysis is completely right

[themoderndejavu]

It sickens me, that line they throw out: "You're giving aid and comfort to the enemy!" Why is it that we as a country cannot question our government or demand truth anymore without being pegged as enemy-fellating, "evil-doing" fascists? The US is the largest terrorist organization that ever existed. We FUND terrorism and profit off of wars. The American Dream is only a dream and our people need to wake up.

[LaxBboys]

there are death on both sides, its part of evuoultion, the strong survies, and i don't spell check, death helps control population and usually helps advance the human race cause the retard ones die usually

[lifter1204]

Mr. Levinson, I think you kicked O'reilly's ass!

Congrats!

[PLev20062006]

thank you - doin' my best!

[bigmadbad]

he calls the man a moron! how unfair is that? downright rude plus Bill O'Reilly needs to stop deluding himself.

[reynadelmundo]

He's not deluding himself! See I read the horoscope for his sign and it sais " Your moon is Uranus" and thats whats up with him! He's a Corporate puppit and will be it until a brave nation that is now feeding themselves Mcdys and watching TMZ instead or reading history to understand today...AMERICA WAKE UP AND SMELL TYRONNIE. REPLACE IT WITH REAL DEMOCRACY, NOT THE FICTIONAL ONE IN USE TODAY! vote 4 Ron Paul to get ur dignity and constitution back!

[noman953]

how many of you have actually seen al jazeera. the reason the US doesn't want people seeing it is because they don't want their own people to see the other side of the coin and only want them to see the countless lies on Fox and CNN

[cr4fty3]

Excellent debate Paul! During the debate when O'Reilly was telling you "but we're telling them what happened we DON'T have to show it!"

You should've mentioned the fact that "just because you or "FOX" say something happened, it doesn't mean it did. As a matter of fact FOX has been well known to distribute biased stories without merit or data.

[PLev20062006]

thanks - good points

[Taylorhoge]

What a stupid Bitch.I love how the News Corperation was statred by an austrailian yaeah they seem to teel the truth

[cheerfulerik]

Two things make me feel ashamed to be an American. When I see the Abu Ghraib photographs, and every time I turn on Faux News. I hope no one actually believes that facist, slanted war-mongering hate station... Probably not, no one's that dumb.

[chronofox12]

Is that why he has more watchers that NBC and ABC combined? Look at the numbers you blind, liberal, partisan fool.

[themoderndejavu]

Just because a station has more viewers doesn't make them or their cause superior. It just means that there is a majority of ignorant people in this country and part of why people are so ignorant is the fact that they watch channels like Fox. Fox, in my opinion, has distorted the news and imagery to an unfathomable degree. The Monostat incident, for instance. All corporate news stations are corrupt by virtue of their existence. People get the reality they're being fed.

[PrinceBaldric]

Compare Muslim and western torture methods...

Muslim: Starve soldiers, Cut off soldiers testicles, stuff them in his mouth, then cut off his head in front of a camera.

West: "humiliate poor Muslims" :,(

[horndogy2k6]

Taking the Moral high ground on the war on terror is not a benevolent guesture. It is a necessity that both aids the fight itself and insures that you do not descend to the same level as the people you're fighting.

[holybear]

Yes I DO think that's a bad thing. Look at WWII. The U.S. firebombed several cities in Japan (even killing 200 000 people in ONE night in Tokyo) and then dropped the BIG ONE twice. Then they bombed Berlin. But is there a single doubt about who the good guys were in that war? Horny, I don't think so.

[horndogy2k6]

It doesn't work that way. Contrary to Rummie and friends the world is not black and white. There are myriad shades of grey and WWII is no exception. Let me put it this way, do you think the Soviets were good guys too? They were on the same side as the US and Stalin not only terrorized all of Eastern Europe, he killed his own men too.

i.e. the US and co. were indeed the 'good guys', relatively speaking thanks to Hitler being evil incarnate.

[holybear]

No, Soviet weren't good guys because they didn't save us(I'm from Norway see). The U.S. DID. And after the war they had to save us from Soviet. So if you look at the U.S and their intentions in WWII, you wont find any bad ones. Just like you wont find any good ones when you look at Germany or Japan. Yes, as far as those three nations are concerned, there was only black and white. Prove me wrong.

[holybear]

Surely. But we've got thinner skin today so ANYthing will choler us.

[horndogy2k6]

And you think that's a bad thing? The ends do not justify the means. If you believe they do guess who agrees with you? Al-Qaeda!

[PLev20062006]

Thanks for the comment, holybear - but I think we do need indignation, if our government is doing something wrong.

[holybear]

Why should people know the gritty details of war? It's not a pretty picture so people are bound to be outraged by what they see. And we don't need indignation during wartime.

[Murrland]

I think you are completely right. If people see these images it makes the public think we are doing a bad job in Iraq. Also these images can be seen by the pigs that did these acts, and it makes them do it again and again. The American public and the world need to see the good things that are happening way more than the bad. I spent a year in Iraq and a lot of good things came out of it.

[PLev20062006]

Thanks for the comment, Murrland. I agree with you that the public needs to see the good things we do. But I also think they should not be shielded from the bad. In short, the healthiest state of affairs in a democracy is for the public to see both.

[JBoudreau99]

You fucking idiot! We ARE doing a bad job in Iraq. People need to see everything that is going on there, and they don't need nutjob conservatives like O'reilly sugarcoating the bad things and making everything appear better than it truly is. If you show the truth and people think that we "are doing a bad job" then so be it. It is reporters' and news anchors' jobs to report the truth, not as they see it, and not how it affects their political affiliations, but as it is.

[Murrland]

Somebody needs to take their medicine. You are right saying the world needs to see EVERYTHING. Like I said a while back there are really good things going on, and yes, the bad outweighs the good. How could it not during a WAR. The sad thing is the media chooses to show the bad way more than all the good that is taking place. Americans don't like to find information for themselves. They watch the news and worship what is being said, kind of like you.

[PLev20062006]

Murrland - I "worship what is being said"? :) You must have been dozing off while I was talking to O'Reilly ...

[JBoudreau99]

Short of actually visiting Iraq and following the soldiers around the towns, other than the news, in one form or another, (TV, internet, etc.) I'm not quite sure how else one should find information about the war. From what one sees hears and reads, they must form their own opinions and unquestionably most people believe that it's wrong.

[JBoudreau99]

...Sure some are easily persuaded by what they watch, but the same can be said for those who continue to support the president, despite all of the exposed lies and cover ups. It's tough to report the good that comes from a war when little progress is made, when billions are spent every week, and when thousands of people are dying.

[JBoudreau99]

I guess you want all the news stations to show the footage of soldiers handing out soccer balls to litte Iraqi kids, or some BS like that, or perhaps you can cite all the good things that aren't being reported. I don't worship what is said by any news people, I listen to them, watch them, and develop my own opinions based on what I have seen.

[yehmanbless]

yeh, we dont need to see those images...it might give america a bad image and we should try to cover it up as much as possible..