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  • Agree with you about Assemites but there is some good stuff in the Clanbook. I imagine some good campaigns to play with only Assemites, especially with Vizads and Sorceryes involved. Or a problem-solution based game where the players are Assemites who are to kill someone.

  • @zeptochros Yes, there are few ideas so bad with loads of work & great STing & players you cannot do something with them. However, this clan is a bastion for terrible play.

  • Most enlightening now I understand why most storytellers put a big NO when it comes to this clan. But I guess they can make formidable villians I guess you could say they are the Vampires' Nazis it's always safe to kill/hate them.

  • @Razz1024 Well, I do enjoy killing one for sure. Yes, they are a big bag of problems & most of us that have been playing this game for a while have seen some really booty things involving people trying to play this clan.

  • I agree completely. I can see the players who want to play these a mile away. It will be one session before they are trying to sink the game, and diablerize every other player. The only worse thing WW created are Euthanatos.

  • @kato1972 I've never had a problem with Euthanatos but I've never played a mage game with bad players. I've played & seen a lot of bad players in Vampire. So I'll take your point, but that's another good point these are the same kind of tools that try to wreck a game. I don't think I even covered that, good point.

  • Always thought they were a poor idea & I've seen a lot of the style of play you were talking about here, sadly.

  • @OwlbearJack ah, it is the ballz

  • This clan does suck

  • @NordtheBarbarian damn right

  • The Situation will insinuate himself inside of you!

  • @TheNospiece Poor gay bearger.

  • Who is this video about?

  • I do love the Assasmites. However, I "liked" because your vids fuckin rock! Also, I hate NWoD.

  • @peacehand82 Thanks brother, I appreciate it. NWOD is the ballz for sure.

  • i haven't played this game in over 15 years. i took your what vampire test are you in your most recent video and i was an assamite. i remembered that you had a video on this clan so i just watched this video. i still couldn't tell you all the clans or what any particular clan is about. but the test said i was this with trendamere being 2nd. i have no desire to play really though, so no biggie any way to me.

  • @greycloud24 you saying you don't play rpgs anymore or just WOD?

  • @woodwwad i don't play vampire or any white wolf games actually. my group sticks to pathfinder, shadowrunner, and a warhammer 40k themed game (can't recall its name off the top of my head). we play a couple other offshots ussually with some house rules tossed in. but we don't do much for white wolf games. can't say i am a huge fan of VtM either. i do like your channel though.

  • @greycloud24 Thanks brother, I'm glad to hear it. I'll be having some pathfinder/D&D videos coming soon.

  • I agree with what you said but I believe it would be better if you tone down the ranting a little bit down, it feels way over the top. It's a real pitty because you make really good points. It happened the same with the charging on d&d video.

  • @insau It was suppose to be way over the top.

  • @woodwwad I know, I can tell by looking at your other videos, I understand that that is suppose to be a part of it. But what I'm trying to say is that I would enjoy it a lot more without the exaggeration. I suppose that's your syle so nevermind me. Keep up the great job.

  • @insau Yep, that's the gimmick. But most of my videos aren't over the top but they certainly will be if I'm ranting, why I usually try to put rant in the video title or something like that. If you check out some of my other videos you'll notice that a lot of them are right on serious.

  • Pretty much my reaction when drow-ninja-assassins were all the rage.

  • @Backfromthedeadguy I'm glad I've never seen anyone play that. They would have to get joked with the quickness.

  • Coldharbour indeed. I have to agree on one hand. The Assamites can be awful ninja assassin stereotypes. But a clan is after all just a template and the person with that template does not have to conform to stereotypes.

    Of course, the argument to that is that if you don't want to play a vampire like an Assamite play a different clan or even a Caitiff.

  • @clackclickbang Assamite certainly isn't a clan of freethinkers & would likely not be open to too much stretching. The white wolf fiction put some utterly terrible assamite npcs together.

    Caitiff can be interesting to play, I've done that before.

  • @woodwwad I think there are some interesting Assamite NPCs, although admittedly they fall more into Sorcerer or Vizier castes. The idea of vampire assassin ninjas just fucks me right off. They can only ever be used as NPCs in my opinion, if at all. Hell, wipe them out rather than the Ravnos.

  • @clackclickbang I'll agree with you there on all accounts.

  • Im kinda gettin the feeling that you dont like the Assamite as a player. Sooo.... who's the sherriff in this town?

  • @LOXMYTHIC I think you know who the sheriff is!

  • @woodwwad Well then could you show me to the Clerk of Courts?

  • @LOXMYTHIC Right this way.

  • the old man in the mountain would order i hit him self on said player

  • you dont need the other player to agree lol name a assimite thats gunna turn down blood period

  • lol for now on blood bound them to the the other players hehehehe

  • go mine is unbound

    

  • assimite only take contracts from a priogem or prince you have to play it right i hate that some ruins it for the rest of us that do role play correctly

  • I love my assimite but it took me 3 and half years to get to 7 th gen

  • @gwenaverr As well it should, that makes a lot of sense to not be able to easily get there. It is a big deal.

    I greatly do enjoy blood bounding someone, very interesting if sold well by the other player.

  • I am curious what is the next clan for VTM to do next or do you plan to cover some mage or werewolf next?

  • @herkles1 I'm thinking I'll do some mage & werewolf next. I still have 1 more video to post but after that I might do more than one mage vids & maybe a BSD or Fianna, maybe glasswalker.

  • i always have and will call assamites ass-mites i fucking hate them.

  • @falloutmnky well said, I'm voting this up.

  • I have seen your recent VTM videos and frankly i am appalled. You are constantly saying people didn't play "this right" or "that right". Not everyone need to portray and percieve the clans/class the same way you do.

    This is a hobby. You are having fun = You are doing it right. There is no "right way".

  • @marvelona Well, first you need to realize my delivery style is intended to entertain with deliberately over the top aggressive style. Secondly, I don't think anyone needs to portray anything in the same way I do, what I do encourage is to actually try, create interesting characters, stay in character and do the best you can with the game. I try role-playing as an art form. It is also about making the game fun for the other people playing & GM, quality play will do that.

  • @woodwwad I guess the over the top just didn't do it for me. You a lot more aggressive in these videos then your past ones. A bit too much for my taste.

    My bad for not getting the joke.

  • @marvelona In the word of Lex Luthor: WROOOOOOOONG!

  • interesting, you did not talk much on the caste system that the assassmites have, the warriors, sorcerers, and viziers. I take it you think that did not really make them more playable.

    good video btw.

  • @herkles1 I hate the clan, as I outline they seem to draw the people I wish would not play WOD games. I touched on the castes a little but they pretty much do not make the clan more playable.

  • Out of curiosity, in a order from favorite to least favorite of the clans? And what do you feel about the bloodlines?

  • @YaoiHuntressEarth sure, I can put a video of that up.

  • Power gamers in my experience play Brujah. I'm not a fan of Assamites either, they are no0bsauce.

  • @ZigCopasetic Gangrel make a far better power gamer clan than brujah, potence is a really weak discipline without something to back it up with agg damage.

    I so hate power gamers in WOD.

  • @woodwwad Oh yea, agreed that the claws are boss. I say Brujah as the powergamer clan because if I wanted to make a crackhead I'd make a Brujah. Take the initiative penalty of biting without grapple and you got a str+1 aggravated potence/ celerity fiend. OR grapple for first action and celerity bite for the rest. Instead of cutting off limbs with claws you tear out throats. Either way shit gets red real fast.

  • @ZigCopasetic well biting is a good way to do that, you have a good point there.

  • Hey man,

    I like your video's! I was wondering (i'm going to ask for it in my latest video but I'll ask you in this message) could you make a video about vampires that are Harpies? There is a fair chance that my FoS is going to become a harpy and I don't really have a good feel on how harpies work. How they get what they need and still keep there position of power.

    Hope you have time for it!

    THANKS

  • @RogAlb1 yeah, I'll put that on the list. I really enjoy them.

  • And that's why Werewolf is better. Minimal politics, more action.

  • @Demolitiondude There should be loads of politics in a werewolf game, pact, tribe, sept. Politics are the best part of WOD, imo.

  • @woodwwad Why should we squable with petty politics when there are bigger fish to fry like the Black Spiral or the Wyrm.

  • @Demolitiondude Why should they? That would be a long discussion but they certainly do & a lot. You have positions within the pack, like alpha. There are also huge politics with spirits that need to be considered.

  • @woodwwad Rarely used in the game I'm in.

  • @Demolitiondude I see, that sounds like a jack to you.

  • @woodwwad We've been more focused on more important tasks. Currently is tracking down a Skin Dancer and figuring out what to do with a newly designed Hitmark which is the cloned and heavily modifed dead alpha.

  • @Demolitiondude skin dancers can be interesting.

  • @woodwwad How about a Werewolf Hitmark?

  • @Demolitiondude that sounds very odd.

  • @woodwwad The local Technocrancy Mage been cooking it up for a while. The Werewolf Hitmark shapeshifts into all five forms and has all the memories of our former alpha.

  • @Demolitiondude sounds very powerful.

  • That was a lot of ass in the start. Sweet tutorial , rant and keep up the awesome. :)

  • @Vdecepticon thanks

  • Haha awesome xD

    I guess my personal top list of the clans would be: Nosferatu, Gangrel, Brujah, tzimisce, malkavian, ventrue, giovanni, followers of set, tremere, lasombra, toreador, assamite and ravnos.

    I'd play an assamite more gladly than a ravnos. Those fools never got me interested in them.

  • @hammeredshitsteak why are the beloved Followers of Set so low in your list!?!?! thats not right ; P

  • @RogAlb1 Well so are your second favorites, lasombra :)

  • @hammeredshitsteak I've played a ravnos before but I wouldn't be interested in playing one again. I thought you were a bigger ass fan than that.

  • @woodwwad Well the middle-eastern part is cool and all but that's mainly all. I do enjoy fighting in an RPG a lot, but I would not like the characters clan itself to be about being an assasin. Also their clan dicipline is pretty lame in my eyes. I'd rather be a brujah or gangrel assasin than a assamite. The powergaming is really clear on the clan also. Like how half-orcs are a race that minmaxes it self :)

  • @hammeredshitsteak A little dungeonbastard there, very nice. I'm not a big fan of their clan dis either.

  • Well Assamites make nice antagonists if your players did something bad enough oder became powerful enough to make someone their enemy who calls for an assamite. I dont think they are actually meant to be a pc clan but can add some fun and teach the players a lesson "What did we do to deserve this?" makes them think who they may have angered. Can lead to a story about who sent that assamite (finding out usually involves a lot of false assuments - creating even more enemies...^^)

  • @ArphenMaethor I totally agree they are not for PCs. As NPCs I think they can work okay.

  • I guess I'm lucky then. In the one game I played with my Malk, we never had an Assamite. We had a few Gangrel, a Nosferatu, 1 Malkavian (me), One or two Toreadores as well as Brujahs and Ventrue. For as much of the game we played, it was fun. Too bad we never got to finish it 8(

  • @Burori1 Never getting to finish a game is a big problem. I hate when game don't come to a finish.

  • @woodwwad Or WORSE when someone decides that it's better to cancel the game for stupid reasons = - =;

  • @Burori1 Oh, don't even get me started on that. I have a guy in my group that is a great GM but if the wind blows, he'll fold the game. So annoying.

  • @woodwwad I hear ya. Oh it gets the blood burning when that happens.

  • @Burori1 absolutely

  • HAHAHAHA monkey ass! hahhaahahahaha

  • @odin422 damn right!

  • Some obfuscated Assmite was jackin' with your camera there.

    The first (and worst) game of Vampire I ever ST'ed had an Assmite in it. Mind, this was 1999 so we'd all just seen The Matrix so you just KNOW who this character was. There's one way to make a Billy-Bad-Ass Assmite even more no-selling: base him off Keanu Reeves!

    In retrospect though, this horrible experience made me grow and evolve as an ST, if for no other reason than to make sure it never happens again.

  • @Onionkid99 What was wrong with the picture? I made an enjoyable pirate in my FR game based around Keanu Reeves, who I can do a half way decent impression of. A man the character a human apologist who would automatically side with the demi-humans on everything. The players enjoyed him. But I totally get what you are saying about matrix characters, that movie didn't do the hobby any favors for sure.

  • @woodwwad I was just referencing you having to re-adjust the camera a bit in the beginning there.

    Anyway the Matrix Man Assmite was made when we were all freshman in high school so things like that are bound to happen. Luckily we all went on to have some very successful forays into Vampire chronicles with interesting characters all around.

    PS- I was surprised Ventrue was your 12th favorite. Is it their rigid and traditionalist nature?

  • @Onionkid99 Ah thanks, I don't watch my own vids, so I'd never know if there was some sort of technical problem with them.

    Yes, I find them too rigid & a bit limited. The big problem is I don't really find the clan interesting & the sort of character concepts I enjoy would be hard to work into a member of that clan. Just a little too dull.

  • Plus it was of course terrible but this guy liked working apparently and the sales team back at Alamut apparently was underboooking him. So he would offer services trying to sell him self out, he jokingly admited he felt like a hooker with a scimatar.Still funny to look back on and that is what it is all about.

  • Tremere will make you their bitch. We don't give a shi~

  • @EnsignMinneapolis Damn right they don't, the Tremere will march you through Ellysisum holding their pocket!

  • I agree with you but of course i did have a friend who played an ASSimite in a LARP game and he was the center of the city. All the main characters that got made when he was created got blown up (not by him) this left a void of power elevating him to a status that his age and stats didn't support. The funny thing was no one knew this some even thought he killed the other leaders of the community. I even ran a game where all the characters who attended were just in a dream of this lowly one.

  • @1974Glock Man where to even start with all the terrible things I've seen with the Ass.

  • Love your videos, I'm a hardcore roleplayer too and I'd like to hear some opinions about, not just VTM, but games like Mage: the Ascension or Demon: the Fallen! Nice reviews... BTW You ranted on my fave clan, but it's okay! See ya!

  • @IncursorVerde Well hopefully you are redeeming them, I tell you I've seen more terrible assamites than I have any other clan, just embarrassing play. If you've only recently started looking at my vids, check out my WOD play list. I have maybe 7-8 vids on mage (I've especially had good comments on my Nephandi video) & there will be more mage coming soon. Always good to have hardcore rpers aboard. For me, this is a beautiful art form.

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  • @ElMalificus damn right you are

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