Lisa Yuskavage at DAVID ZWIRNER

[realityartshow]

cool! thanx! for posting

[rexnickles2]

i hate artfags.

they make the artist look bad.

[dirkschuitsma]

yeah. but the girls often look great. but they only wanna know you if youre succesfull...;*(

[DirtyHotdogWater]

HAHA I completely agree...I call them art pansies

[hankx32]

Is she painting an idealized, almost Holy dream vision of who she wishes (more like lusts for) she was?

[chandru1103]

talking about art is boring...can't we all just "see"

[cizmthemantiz]

You are absolutely right.

[MrWowforever]

silly pants

[chandru1103]

best comment I have ever recieved from anyone thank you very much!

[MrWowforever]

aw shucks?

[cizmthemantiz]

I love her work. I sure hope I get into Yale's mfa program. Columbia rules for the meantime!!

[artistkeith3]

I don't understand (and don't want or need to) the trendy anime influence on today's faces, but otherwise very painterly and new fresh palettes that keep me interested. Blurring the line between illustration and fine art is always tricky but these get over by a few steps whereas Currin (and hordes of others) never seem to cross over completely.

[fox408]

how in the world can yuskavage be compared with saville? ...saville is in a completely different league altogether! ...another great vid though james, thanks!

[calebengler]

Obvious Frank Frazetta influence, certainly, but dont discount that of good ol VAUGHN BODE.

[rahndi]

Should Rick Prol be speaking negatively about Lisa Yuskavage? A lot more that sour grapes by calling her a niche painter.

[MrWowforever]

he's allowed to have an opinion......sour grapes need to be more personal....like "i deserve what she has!" Prol is just asserting his opinion, which he's entitled to do. being an artist is tough and if you look in mr. prols eyes you can see he is not being malicious, only honest.

[claureic]

Courbet compared to Yuskavage...I would call that the end of the world...

[LawrenceCharlesMille]

The past 125 years of american illustration contains a treasure of painterly virtuosity. Some of it brilliantly erotic. The American greats, Warhol, Homer, Hopper,e al, cut their teeth as commercial artists. So when we talk of skill with regard to Yuskavage and Currin I wonder if we are a bit influenced by their tickets punched by Yale.

[LawrenceCharlesMille]

Joe Camel's Home for Wayward Girls

[claureic]

And then again, there's an enlightening Charlie Finch piece on Artnet about this show that makes me long for a Kalm foray into Susan Rothenberg's new works...

[jameskalm]

The Yuskavage and Rothenberg openings were the same night. I'd planned on trying to cover both, but sometimes you just have to go with the flow. Will try to get a peek at Susan coming up after Anger and Kippenberger, thanks

JK

[blackbranches]

Yes, I am as always impressed by her virtuousity, and there are some truly magical passages in these. Ultimately, though, there's a kind of coldness and aloofness that turns me off... a similar lack of emotional intimacy can be found in John Currin's work as well as others such as Will Cotton, and Julie Heffernan-- along with just as much painterly prowess. Makes me long for something with more heart and soul. I'll take Enrique Martinez Celaya or Kaye Donachie or Elizabeth Peyton instead.

[WyndhamL]

lots of heart and soul, that elizabeth peyton. oy.

[Herr2Cents]

Very stimulating show in the fact that people are confronted by a sexual image painted by a women.

It was fun to hear peoples reaction to it. I really enjoyed the video. Wish I was there.

[monkcycle]

Thanks James!

Will people please comment on why women tend to take on the 'Male gaze' as their vantage point?

MC

[jameskalm]

Money, power, prestige and career oppertunities.

The male brain is hard-wired for certain stimuli, biological imperative.

JK

[coloartcolo]

I think she is more have a go at the "male" brain or the "male gaze". More making a political statement about what she thinks that is than adopting it.

[seintzeit]

yeah, and in another way they're just more pussy painting.

[jameskalm]

I should have titled this vid "more pussy painting"

I'd have another million views.

[coloartcolo]

Perhaps: but I think people that would hit those key words would think that this was pretty tame stuff!

[jameskalm]

It wouldn't be the first time they'd been "bait and switched" on YouTube

[WyndhamL]

hahahaha. yes.

[seintzeit]

or "shaved/pre-pube chooch paintings"

:)

what did courbet call his cooch painting, th one lacan kept in his office? something like The beginning of the world...

[MrWowforever]

the origin of the world...corbet:)

[seintzeit]

good job, but sorry wowforever, i'll have to take of points for being a few days late

[MrWowforever]

sorry, i've been in rehab for a crack addiction and an obsessive compulsive ear-ache:(

[seintzeit]

well i hope things work out; with that; here's a bonus question to wipe out your late penalty: how did Lacan hang Courbets famous pussy picture in his office? Were there any other works of art involved, and by whom?

[claureic]

hidden behind a curtain....

[seintzeit]

yes! and the other part of the question...he also masked the courbet cooch with a painting by andre masson. so you get five points, out of a possible, fifteen...which is still excellent!

[claureic]

I didn't know about the Masson part. Thanks! Maybe Lacan would have hidden Yuskavage's paintings behind a curtain too, but for other reasons...Not to spoil the enjoyment of his Masson painting...

[seintzeit]

ha! I saw a plastic shower curtain with a Yuskavage image on it at a benefit auction for white columns a few years back...

[MrWowforever]

i saw Lacans courbet hanging in an enclosed bed/study with a curtain. i did'nt know about the masson....all this talk of courbet is a little too big for yusgavage....just my opinion.....these paintings are nice....nice, but no courbet.

[seintzeit]

i think you looked over at claureic's quizbook, so no points. and feigning high-mindedness is so middlebrow and will get you no where in this class...

[MrWowforever]

thanks professor..........if ,in having an opinion, i have over-reached your parameters then you should surely return with a failing grade......i have decided to drop your class and instead study widdling.

[seintzeit]

everybody can, and does, have opinions; interesting, well thought out and original ideas, that's something else; i think "widdling" would be a good course of study for you...

[MrWowforever]

in our discussion you posited yourself as the teacher (feigning high-mindedness)....widdling was a mataphor for the futility of your teachings.......just my opinion:)

[seintzeit]

a mataphor.? oy. if students come to class not equipped with spelling skills...oh the, futility!

[MrWowforever]

widdling it is....:)

[seintzeit]

actually, it is whittling...

[MrWowforever]

widdlin'

[blackbranches]

Women painting women expands possibilities rather than putting them into a box. It's kind of like blackface versus art made by black people about being black, and about being a human being. If women were to paint men in a female "male gaze" sort of way (female gaze?) it might be a bit of a one-liner. That being said, I still think Yuskavage borrows a bit too heavily from the bimbo side of things, staying safely, ironically and cutely out of any truly potent emotive or expressive territory.

[MrPixies]

Real similar to Sam Keith's style, his women's all have those pot bellies (he did the MAXX). Cool show, looked like Jerry Saltz was telling her what to say to make her work seem serious/important.

[rahndi]

JK - Thank you for presenting another unique video presentation. Lisa Yuskavage is an important painter. The women are kicking some ass in the contemporary art world; Amy Sillman, Amy Cutler, Nicole Eisenman. Did you happen to get a price range for some of these Lisa's pieces? I cannot afford them but I am always curious. Best wishes to you.

[hankjunior]

You know when i die , i want to go live in one of those Will Cotton paintings .

[LawrenceCharlesMille]

Sex's skeleton and the odor of Ivy League. DOA

Joseph Albers would shit his pants. Sis boom bah!

Thanks James. Best-

[spawndawnacl]

With apologies to Bonnie Raitt, I've yet to enjoy a female lead guitarist or pornographer. Playboy is bankrupt under Christina. Three great things: Your commentary, the discomfort caused by your camera and whatever LCM hasn't written yet. Thanks, thanks, thanks.

[creepyartkid]

thanks james for another awesome half ass production!

[victrypa]

Thanks James - love your videos. Interesting to hear the reverse order of influence.

[victrypa]

I'd like her much better if her anatomy was more exact. I see a copycat John Currin rather than anything unique. From a feminist point of view, I'd like to know her own philosophy or theory. Frazetta is what comes to mind, except he was better at figure work.

[jameskalm]

I think if is generally agreed that Lisa is the one influencing Currin. She had been doing this kind of work when they met.

JK

[claureic]

Soppy.

[claureic]

Hans Bellmer's art was transgressive, Yuskavage's is sweet and comfortable...

[claureic]

Thanks James for this great video. It didn't change my opinion on her art though(gratuitous eroticism...."little Anny Fanny",poor drawing, aproximative sense of color, artificial mannerism,etc). I don't agree that it is "well painted". i think it is pointless art.

[jameskalm]

Thanks for the comments.

JK

[hankjunior]

I always think of Frank Frazetta when i see her work.

Thanks James

[RonSchira]

I see where you're coming from, but as good as Frazetta was at what he did, he was basically an illustrator and more interested in baseball than art. His babes were man-sexy, her babes are pubescent teeny girl-sexy.

[johnkesling]

Thanks James!

[wizzlewolf]

I am so glad you made a vid about this show. I have been reading about Yuskavage for the past week. Her work is a hot topic in the blogosphere. I really didn't know what to think. I couldn't make up my mind. Seeing this vid helped me gain at least a modicum of clarity. Thank you!

[jameskalm]

Hey wizzle,

that's what we're here for, thanks

JK

[Vuji222]

this was a great show. thanks for bringing it to us.

[ragratt]

5:20 is amazing

[burtoncharlessmith]

I like it when the big people don't brush you off like you were scum. It helps restore my faith in humanity.

[andfalling]

your best one yet.