Harold Camping's signs and do you wonder something not right?

[daro2096]

They are/were sincere(Camping's followers) but sincerely wrong.

But just like the rest of the majority of Christians they still think the rapture and the second coming are separate events. They not.

[AtheistToothFairy]

It doesn't matter that they forgot to put the name 'jesus' on the billboards, or talk about gospel message, mainly because that message is ancient history and FAILED

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy i bet you have fun going around poking people with your stick, don't you?

turn the other cheek and love your neighbor isn't ancient history, but many have failed trying to accomplish it. still, though, it's better than ignoring what it means to be a good person.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2

I can't figure out what your comment means, other than the 'poking people' part.

Yes, I like to 'poke' Xtians who make a spectacle out of themselves in a public arena, like we have here on youtube.

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy you don't know what love your neighbor means, or turn the other cheek? seems pretty self-evident to me.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:"you don't know what love your neighbor means"

1. I'm not a Xtian, so I'm not under any law/rule/commandment/suggestio­n where I have to 'love my 'neighbor'.

2. It's quite apparent that in the bible 'love thy neigbor', really means to love your fellow Hebrew and not those in the surrounding Tribes. Heck, the killed off most of THOSE "neighbors", per god's commands.

3. Tell your militant xtians to 'turn the other cheek', okay

Are we clear now?

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy i don't control anyone, my good man. i can tell christians to love others, but it doesn't make them do it. and for me, "love my neighbor," means every human being, and every conscious being in the universe and beyond for that matter. but if you want to be cynical and think genuine selfless love is impossible, i can't stop you. i just wish i could know you in real life to be able to show you, though, as well as i can. it saddens me that you are so opposed to the idea yourself.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:"if you want to be cynical and think genuine selfless love is impossible, i can't stop you."

For you to assert that you can 'love' everyone, surely demeans the term 'love' itself.

You can't possibly love everyone, especially those whose basic character and worldview are in direct contrast to your own.

You might TOLERATE them, you might even care about them in a humanitarian sense, but you can't 'love' them.

If you do, then what does that say to your supposed 'loved ones'?

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy actually, i do love people that have a "basic character and worldview" that contradict mine. i don't understand why this is a problem. it doesn't demean the word love at all, but shows how it can overcome all differences. i can love everyone, and i do, even if they hate me.

i'm not sure it's supposed to say anything to my loved ones other than, "i love you, and i wish you truth, love, and happiness." you may not think it's possible if you don't feel the same.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:"i can love everyone, and i do, even if they hate me"

You should know that I'm an Apostate and as such, I have MANY Apostate friends, whose backgrounds come from many different Xtian sects.

One interesting fact is that as soon as each of them lost their Faith, and once their xtian friends realized they couldn't win them back to their sect, they then treated them as if they were Satan himself and the 'love' was suddenly GONE.

Are you really THAT much different than these xtians?

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy um, if they really hate people who disagree, then i am different from them. i'm not part of any denomination mainly because i can't listen to bad theology, such as trying to motivate people by telling them a pure and good god would torture them for all eternity if they disobey (which i think is total BS). i am sorry for what others have done to you and your friends, and i can't make up for it. not all believers are like that, though.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:" i am sorry for what others have done to you and your friends, and i can't make up for it"

You seem to be under the impression that we Apostates lost our Faith because of these types of xtians, when the fact is that we lost our Faith BEFORE these xtians acted the way they did.

Also, I find that most of you True Xtians tend to want to apologize for the rest of bad Christianity, as if you're the elected spokesperson of such.

No one knows what a True Xtian is, nor can they

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy i don't believe i'm a "true christian." in fact, my views on hell alone are enough for many to declare me a heretic. but i am a follower of the message of jesus, and that's all i know.

i didn't apologize because i'm trying to sway you back to christianity, but because i'm truly sorry for you and others losing your friends over belief differences. you could have said it was because you were capitalist and became communist, and i would still have apologized because that sucks.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:" don't believe i'm a "true christian." in fact, my views on hell alone are enough for many to declare me a heretic"

Indeed, some xtians would brand you as a heretic, which surely must be a problem for you xtians as a group, in that no sect holds the proven truth to what the bible says, or if you will, what the Holy Spirit is conveying to its believers.

I think if god were real, he wouldn't allow 30K sects, each thinking they hold THE truth and the others are wrong or will FRY

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy again, thinking that people who are wrong will fry is BS, i think. not all sects believe in calvinism. if god exists, i think freedom is necessary. if freedom is necessary, then it's clear why there isn't only one church. we tried that for centuries, but then the catholic church started selling people get out of sin free cards, which is why martin luther and the protestant movement started in the first place. none of us are jesus, so we can't perfectly interpret his teachings.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2

I agree, in so far as why some rebelled against the RCC.

Of course, you are aware that Martin Luther was a real CRAZY PERSON, yes?

(Don't even get me started)

True, none of us are jesus, but then jesus seems to be silent about what he wants, and expects us to interpret a 2000 y/o book, of which the autographs don't even exist and translation problems abound, along with personal customizations et al.

Jesus needs to fix this MESS, NOW!

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy i'm not sure what to say to that. it's supposed to be a "mess", because that's the only way to provide enough choices to allow for truly free will. as far as translation problems, you're free to learn ancient greek like i am, but even then jesus didn't speak greek so that has been translated and interpreted already. in my opinion, the important parts couldn't be more plain, and i don't think the important parts are about theoretical life after death but about what to do now.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@amn3h23h2:"you're free to learn ancient greek like i am, but even then jesus didn't speak greek so that has been translated"

It would surely be a waste of time to try and learn ancient Greek, for as you say, jesus spoke Aramaic and much had to have been lost in going between those two languages, then from copy to copy, all while Daddy-God allowed the originals to get lost forever.

WHERE does the bible apply itself to "what to do now"?

Prophesy, that is clearly BS?

[amn3h23h2]

@AtheistToothFairy well, i'm learning ancient greek because of my love for socrates and the platonic dialogues, so it's definitely not a waste for me. my point was, though, that you can at least cut out some of the interpretation done by those who did not know jesus.

god is only lovingly and symbolically referred to as a father; only fools view god as a literal man in the literal sky with a literal beard.

as to the what to do now, i already said. love your neighbor, turn the other cheek, etc.

[logan76mv]

Sorry last comment was a by a accident. Harold camping is just another mother fucker!

[logan76mv]

Harold camping is just ano

[logan76mv]

@palmer8112 you can shut the fuck up! There is no way that going to happen! When 10/21/11 I will laugh my ass off.

[1974celeste]

@palmer8112 DONT talk such SHIT Palmer!! Youre now back tracking from your bullshit the other week!!! I notice you were obviously too fucking scared to debate me on this subject! People need to ignore this idiot Palmer!! He talks crap, then when you come at him with reality and FACTS... he fucks off all cowardly!!

[edvisigoth]

@palmer8112 Blah blah blah. Must defend the false prophet. Blah blah blah. The Bible guarantees it. Blah blah blah. Harold Camping never told anyone what to believe. Blah blah blah. Jesus will return on 05/21/11. Blah blah blah. Big earthquake. Blah blah blah. Dead bodies in the street. Blah blah blah. The world will end on October 21, 2011. Blah Blah Blah. Will you tell us when you will return from Vegas and Acapulco so we can verify the date in the Bible? Blah blah blah.

[Pastorbillanddesi]

@palmer8112 You are completely out of touch with peoples pain. You have NO EMPATHY! Of course it is a BIG DEAL! This man is playing with a lot of peoples emotions, and If I recall right, you were playing with peoples emotions, as well. Why aren't you in Acapulco, like you said you would be?  Desi

[mentalguy69]

@palmer8112 question for you mate.. when october roles around.. the date comes and goes.. and once again.. judgement day doesnt come.. are you finally going to pull the wool off your eyes and realise.. Camping doesnt have a clue.. and you have been following a man who has delusions?

[edvisigoth]

@mentalguy69

When Camping was wrong in 1994 about Jesus returning then and later began to preach that Jesus would return 05/21/11, I sincerely prayed he would live to see 05/21/11.

Today, I sincerely pray that he will live to see 10/21/11.

I want him to live and see that he was wrong again.

It is his pride that is his downfall.

He will never admit being wrong.

Don't be surprised if, when 10/21/11 comes and goes, he comes up with a new date or a new doctrine.

[edvisigoth]

@palmer8112 Hey, where have you been? I'm waiting for your explanation as to why Judgement Day did not happen on May 21, 2011. "The Bible Guarantees It!" That's what all of Harold Camping's billboards and posters read. What do you think of Harold Camping now, by the way? Are you going to hold your breath until October 21, 2011 and see if he's right then? Let me give you a hint: Harold Camping was wrong in 1994. Harold Camping was wrong in 2011. Let me know if this sinks in.

[2drops0fwater]

@palmer8112 who told you that the church day has ended? who told you that all churches are cult ruled by Satan? who told you there a time line in the bible about Jesus return, when Jesus Himself don't know the time day or HOUR He will come back? i guess Harold Camping and you are wiser then dumb old Jesus at the right hand of God... you campers should be sitting there.

[AgentSmashinglyG]

What is that soundtrack my good man?

[mault1998]

did anyone check to see if he is blind in one of his eyes?

[MegaSpooke]

Good catch, but can i ask you what music you use in this because it sounds awesome

[MrMovieflash]

@MegaSpooke sorry, I forgot the name of the music, I got it from youtube and recorded it over.

[drummingfordrunks]

:34-:37 i would so hit that ! lol !

[netterz1]

also nothing happened in tokyo or austrailia or anything its way past 6pm there

[netterz1]

its just advertising for his damn radio thing

[zikten]

I love the music in this

[visvaldisX]

Religion sucks!

[LongBeachHuntington]

Rational thought is what is missing.

I will post more on Disappointment day.

[drummingfordrunks]

@LongBeachHuntington ha ha ha ha ha ha so true,, so true,,,

[ecd041862]

there are lots of signs that say the word jesus and lord..every person that wears a t-shirt has the word jesus on it and during his new commercial it has the word jesus..so buddy you are so wrong. anyone with a computer and editing software can change things to make themselves look good. so stop-look-and pray untill the 21st of may 2011...

[MrMovieflash]

@ecd041862 Perhaps, you didn't watch the video carefully (just like you didn't read the Bible carefully) The video says about BILLBOARDS, it didn't say anything about T shirts! Just like Camping, The Bible is plain and simple about no one knows but The Father only, he had to go around and twist it. The video is about billboards, you will see the truth on May 22, 2011. Camping is not following Christ, He does not believe Jesus is son of God, the savior. Period.

[PossessedDonutz]

@ecd041862 may 21st, 2011. the rapture is coming. HE IS COMING AGAIN!!!

SYKE

[ebone83]

@ecd041862 ..... so Its May 23, and no one is gone.... you got duped

[larsjake]

@ecd041862 How did that work out for you?

[iamihop11]

@ecd041862 Oooops.... Do me a favor: if you decide to give away your worldly possessions for the next end of the world (Oct 21, if my calculations are correct), send them my way.

[JACKMOENLOKI]

HI what is the sound track it is so epic :P see you all on the 23 Peace

[linkzoo]

I see a lot of people asking what will happen to Camping on the 22nd. Well besides being very busy answering calls, I doubt he really cares. It's all about money anyway. All he cares about is getting his name out there and duping more blind followers to send him money. The man is worth millions.

[cabo02]

Did Jesus write the bible? No. People did. This guy thinks that the world is only around 13,000 years old. HAHA!!! I guess the grand canyon formed really fast and all those dinosaur bones are figments of our imagination too. This guy is a fucking idiot and now he's gonna make it public. Just like that guy Tom Biscardi a couple years ago when he said that he had real bigfoot with those Georgia guys . He went public saying he saw it up close and felt it and it was real. What an ASS!

[EmotionalResQ]

To all Harold Camping followers: I do hope that you realize by following this "false prophet" you are saying Jesus lied in Matthew 24:36 and other scripture. Are you really sure that you want to call Jesus a liar?

[metalsusa1]

Your a good person for trying to alert these people about Harold Campings movement, but some people are unreachable and unfortunately only learn through experience. We can only hope some of the ones you tried to reach didn't do anything foolish in lue of May 21st. My father passed in '08 and at the end of his life began listening and financially supporting Family Radio. He began warning us about May 21, 2011 in '06. It wont be the last time someone tries to predict the end times.

[Cashewnub]

What a terrible waste of money...

[JRand164]

Let's look at what you said. You said none of the signs have anything about Jesus. Jesus is the LORD!! The billboards have verses on them and they do say JUDGMENT DAY THAT IS THE WORD OF GOD! How does faith come? "Faith commeth by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Now, when Jonah went to Nineveh did he say to them "people of Nineveh God loves you and he has a great plan for you come and believe on Jesus name. NO "Yet 40 days and Nineveh shall be overthrown"! They were saved by the HEARING!

[MrMovieflash]

@JRand164 John 3:16 and John 14:6 are true salvation messages, messages you see are scare tactics, they serve no purpose to believer and nonbeleiver. People dont know Jesus will not know what you are talking about. Believe whatever you will, just be ready any time and don't regret after May 22, 2011 if the truth reveals.

[JRand164]

@MrMovieflash Not so MrMovieflash. Your answer is not biblical sound at all. You are just looking at a couple of verses and getting your conclusion. Jesus is the word of God and the bible says "faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Now I will say this again. The bible says that most of the people in Nineveh were saved. What did Jonah say to them? "Yet 40 days and Nineveh will be overthrown".

[JRand164]

@MrMovieflash It's funny that you say the message of Judgment day is a scare tactic because the bible clearly teaches about Judgment day and how awful it will be. The real scare tactic is what the churches tell you. "Do you know what happens to you if you are not saved, you go to a place called hell and there you will burn and suffer eternally" So the people hearing that say "wow what can I do to avoid that awful place!" Then they will say well if you come to our church and you do what we tell..

[JRand164]

@MrMovieflash ...tell you then you can be sure that your a child of God. So don't tell me this is a "scare tactic"

[MrMovieflash]

@JRand164 You will regret, believe what you want, follow the cult leader just like all other jobless cult members



[JRand164]

@MrMovieflash The biblical answer is that the bible says there will be fear on every side. You can continue being stuck on the milk of the word like John 3:16 but I my friend will bring the strong meat.

[Loonypics]

@MrMovieflash What will "Family Radio" open with on Sunday 22nd May 2011

Or will they stay "OFF AIR" and pretend they've all been raptured LOL

The world-wide earth quake NOT quite happening will be a bit of a give away though LOL

.The above comment has got me blocked on many channels

[MrMovieflash]

@Loonypics I am sure people (Campingites) will call in on May 22, 2011.  The media will have lots to report on May 22, 2012 You will wait and see

[Loonypics]

@MrMovieflash Hey, I bet these campingites channels will be going down like nine pins LOL by May 22.

The worst part of all this though is the dammage done, there may well be a great falling away as a result of all this, and REAL Christians will face ridicule too, so very sad !

[EmotionalResQ]

@JRand164 Perhaps you need a little more Bible study.

Jonah warned the people of Nineveh several hundred years BEFORE the birth of Jesus, therefore it would have been impossible for Jonah to tell the people of Nineveh about Jesus.

[JRand164]

@EmotionalResQ Yes but there is the bible says in 10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

[EmotionalResQ]

@JRand164 I really don't understand why you are quoting Acts 4:10-12. (BTW you neglected to state what book you were quoting from).

I'll say it again; The people following Harold Camping's "prophecy" are following and believing a false prophet and are saying Jesus lied in Matthew 24:36 and other scripture.

[JRand164]

@EmotionalResQ The people of Ninevah could only have been saved by the blood of Jesus. God never changed the way or means by which we are saved.

[EmotionalResQ]

@JRand164 You jump around from the OT (Jonah) to the NT (Acts) but you still can't explain how God could warn the Ninevites of Jesus since Jesus wasn't born at that time.

The Nievites fasted, wore sackcloth and ashes (ashes being the sign of repentence). By their repentence the Ninevites were spared the wrath of God by devine intervention.

[nighttrain334]

@JRand164 U must be one of those followers of (THE FALSE PROPHET) harold camplooney,,I prey for u people!

[metalsusa1]

Delusional is, is what delusional does. Harold Camping has lost touch with reality. He no longer colors inside the lines. Harold lives in a fantasy world where prophecy always comes true and everything the bible says is 100% correct. Don't take my word for it wait till May 22's sunrise when no world wide earth quake has occurred, no return of Jesus, no anything except Harold Camping making excuses for why his prediction failed. This guy is a glutton for punishment, after all he is Christian!

[MrMovieflash]

@metalsusa1 i don't think he is a true Christian at all. The word Christian means follow Christ, he does not even believe Jesus is a savior or son of God, he is a false Christian, he gave Christian a bad name!!

[Eternalsummersong]

@metalsusa1: Hun....I'm Christian and I do not believe this May 21st nonsense. He's a false prophet and he's not a real Christian.

[metalsusa1]

@Eternalsummersong First off I'd like to say I really like your home page, it's very Disney- fantasy like. (I used the word "like" 3 times in a sentence. WHY!) My father was a born again for 40+ years until he was introduced to Family Radio with Harold Camping about 10 years prior to his death in '08. I see the damage this man can cause in people's lives with his end of days B.S. This is coming from an agnostic. I realize there are smart, decent Christians out there. None of this is for you.

[Eternalsummersong]

@metalsusa1: I have been saved and I will never believe what Harold Camping says BUT I also have people I know that has joined this cult of his. And what I wonder is what is going to happen when the 22nd comes around and nothing happens? Most of those people are starting to quit their jobs...my worry is that they'll either turn their backs on the church or self destruct. And thanks! I like putting up nice artwork and even some of my pictures on my profile page. I'm glad you like it. ^_^

[metalsusa1]

@Eternalsummersong I'm sorry for the people you know caught in Harold Camping's cult. I'm sure slowly after, May 21, 2011, nothing happens most of them will wake up to realize their bad judgement in believing him. Hopefully not too worse for the ware.

[Eternalsummersong]

@metalsusa1: Well when he made the same statement back in 1994 there were some people who did kill themselves...usually when people are in a cult and the cult leader makes a date setting for the lords return or in this case judgement day when the date comes and goes it's not suprising that people tend to off themselves because they gave everything away and quit their jobs. And now Harold has Millions (from what I've heard) of people in his cult....

[metalsusa1]

@Eternalsummersong Family Radio is worth somewhere in the $180 million range. Harold Camping has been receiving donations amounting to people's live savings. You are correct about people quiting their jobs and leaving their families to support this lunacy. After the fall out on May 22nd some wont make it, but most people will come back definitely wiser. Time will tell, 3 more weeks to go.

[DarkStarAZ]

@Eternalsummersong in 1844 - Millerites - seventh day adventists - "many went insane, a few commited suicide, most of them just went back to their same churcc...."

[Eternalsummersong]

@DarkStarAZ: That's what I'm worried about people going insane and committing suicide. From what I've heard of Harold Camping he used to be a good preacher BEFORE he stared in on the date setting mess. I really don't know what happened to that man. Only God knows I guess....

[Eternalsummersong]

@metalsusa1: And lets say 50% of these people decide to Commit Suicide....that's a lot of people. That is what worries me the most.

[daffydoug]

@metalsusa1 Sadly many of us have tried and tried to warn them, but it's fallen on deaf ears, because Camping has them either brainwashed, or hypnotized or both.

[mtpenguin1]

"We must conclude that the return of Christ will not be 2011 A.D". 1994? by Harold Camping, page 495

[buenaorgone19]

no Camping forgot to mention that the lord's real name is Yahushua not Jesus, it says in the bible whoever will come in my name will decive many, th name Jesus is a made up translation of Yahushua, when the lord comes to those his name is Yahushua and his lord is Yahuha.

[enthralledbylight]

@buenaorgone19 You are in deception too.

[enthralledbylight]

Word has it that Family radio has taken the Cross out of its logo on their main page. I noticed two different logos after doing a search. The old one had a cross and the new one doesn't. Could this mean that Christ is NOT in their ministry any longer?

Or that they have abandoned Christ by exalting the "date" over the Lord.

[mtpenguin1]

@enthralledbylight The lack of a cross seems pretty telling to me.

[mtpenguin1]

How long is a year? Answer: 12 months, with the following exceptions: - Sabbath years = 13 months, - Jubilee years = 13 months 360 days in common years. 390 days in Sabbath and Jubilee years. The difference of days is exactly (6 * 360) + 390 = 2550 days in Sabbath periods. (7 * 2550) + 390 = 18240 days in Jubilee periods. 70 * 18240 = 1,276,800 days in 3500 Biblical years. 365.2422 days per year * 3500 years = 1,278,347.7 days (1,547.7 day difference)

[christinagreekct]

matthew 24 verse 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38

[smurfboywv]

Camping says no one can be saved after 1988.

[MrMovieflash]

@smurfboywv Then what is the point of going around having billboards up? Proclaiming the words? What words! ? Words of stupidity? Scare tactics? The more i look at those signs, the more i feel what they are doing it now is non-sense.

[smurfboywv]

@MrMovieflash I don't know, he says no one is saved after 1988, if its true then no one should follow him because he sure isn't saving anyone :)

[TheBonzworth]

@smurfboywv Camping is not the authority and this comes from the BIBLE 1988-1994 virtualy no one was being saved, tipified by the "silence in heaven about the space of half an hour"( there is rejoicing in heaven when people are being saved Luke 15:7) when the seventh seal was opend (rev 8:1) and this is the 2300 days from DAN 8. MAY 21 2011 is going to be the beginning of JUDGEMENT. Dont trust me, Camping check in the BIBLE for yourself.

[smurfboywv]

@TheBonzworth Nothing you just said was true, you know this right?

[smurfboywv]

@TheBonzworth WEAK fool camping made up his own numbers, the Bible says a false prophet will be known by his predictions not coming true (1994 Sept 6) and if Harold Camping was a real prophet, everything he says would come true. But he's been wrong TWICE.

[TheBonzworth]

@smurfboywv Its NOT, my JOB to make you Believe however it is to Warn. May GOD bless you and your loved ones in these last days.

[smurfboywv]

@TheBonzworth I do not want to hear anything about what Harold Camping makes up in his old head. Go tell someone who cares.

[smurfboywv]

@smurfboywv Only Christ can save harold camping needs to change his big boy diapers.

[SomethingReal1119]

@MrMovieflash Agree! What's Camping's goal here? He believes that only the "elect" (chosen BEFORE God even created the universe) will be saved, & it's not based on good deeds, faith, coming to Jesus, etc. We cannot know if we r part of this Elect, not even Camping. (So God runs heaven like a secret society or a grade school clique?) All we can do is run around wringing our hands, in a state of constant anxiety, HOPING that we have won the salvation lottery?