I only have a couple questions for everyone. Since Shamoun gave you information regarding Hubal and Allah, I wanna ask these questions. Is Shamoun an expert on Ancient Arabian Mythology and/or History? If that answer is no, what did he use to establish credibility for his argument? Now, is Shamoun an expert on Hebrew Scriptures? If not, how did he establish his credibility for his conclusion of the Trinity being present in the Old Testament?
The problem with these missionaries is that they are never talking about islam as we muslim believe in it. They create their own islam noone believe in it....
But we muslim reject what they really believe in....
The end of the story is that Keith is crying as his teacher has been clearly exposed. I am ready to debate Shamoun - He has been exposed as for who he is. I had to make it clear and that is why I am asking him to save face and say he was wrong. We will go on and do a face to face debate ..... no problem.. I am ready any day... just waiting for that I AM SORRY... I don't like to debate liars, but I am merciful and can forgive anyone who says sorry. We are waiting Sam.
Brothers Yahyasnow and JibreelK how can you debate these people who are saying that they have found "trinity" in the OT????????? I mean isn't it obvious that they can find what ever they want and like and next thing you know they find that Sam S. was prophesied in the Bible or even in Quran. Serious, please don't waste your time trying to talk to them, just continue to expose them for their lies (which you have been doing great). Barakallah.
Honestly, man up here, people are saying "stop playing games" "stop this" "child that", do you not realize who this is affecting? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT INSIGHT AND TRYING TO REACH GOD HERE,THEY TRUST YOU AND WANT YOUR INFO.if a man steps on your foot he should apologize,if he doesn't, faults on him, get over it,if he didn't and you accuse him of stepping on your foot,to give you a reason to not do something,it's excuse,Now lets go, get on with refutation, or drop the issue. No stall tactics.
For people of such an age, I would expect this to be over with already, really, being petty over an apology? hypothetically lets say Keith and Sam did do something wrong, what does that mean? why won't JibreelK just refute his argument anyway, it makes no sense, and then as an adult, you know full well once you agreed on the first sets of arguments in a debate, you knew the terms, so how can you then, at the last bit of arguments claim you have a problem with the terms now?
And why are you critiquing this video which is just telling people what the debate is about? I wasn't even trying to argue my position here lol. Respond to the actual debate video that shows all the evidence, this is laughable jibreelk - I expect a bit better.
@KeithTruth The God that you worship has, de facto, Baal's Characteristics: A God who sleeps, travels and get busy with thoughts. That is the God who was taunted by Elijah.
@1MoreMuslim If your strange thesis is correct, do any early sources say my God is baal like there are with when it comes to baal being your god? If not why attempt at arguing that view since it wouldn't be a comparison? Oh so baal had a temporary incarnation of limitation for 30 years to die for his people? And your god does't travel? What about S. 2:210?
@KeithTruth What you call strange thesis is Elijah's words in the bible. If Baal doesn't sleep and travel, then Elijah is guilty of Lying about Baal. I am not saying that Jesus and Baal are the same in every point, I am saying that Elijah is mocking a God who sleeps and travels. That shows without doubt, that Elijah cannot believe in a God who sleeps and travel, otherwise his sarcasm would not make sense.
@KeithTruth About the temporary limitation of the incarnation; you are implicitly admitting that this limitation would be a problem if it's eternal, and that would make Jesus a false God. That only shows that you worship a temporary false God, assuming that his limitations are over now. I don't know everything about the Incarnation, but I think that the incarnation is still "real", otherwise show me where Jesus got rid of his human nature in the Bible? Try to answer without using Koranic verses.
Why are you not telling people that you deceived me into believing Sam is doing the debate, while he is hiding saying he does not know how to make youtube vids? You are laughable Keith. You and Sam both. I expect more honesty from those who represent the prince of peace. I would have responded to the debate and I did already BUT I WANT SAM- GIVE ME SAM..... SAM AGREED FROM DAY ONE, BUT NO WHERE TO BE HEARD.
COming to thing of it I don't expect better from you or him
@KeithTruth You are laughable - as you claim to be the representative of the prince of peace yet you try to sow the seeds of hatred in people who want to learn about Islam... be honest admit what you guys did and we can move on. I will debate Sam... where is he by the way ... why do you always have to speak for him?
@JibreelK Islam is a 600 year later falsehood from the cunning snake satan but people of God see through it - since we were warned to reject any fallen angel or false teacher who denies the Son and Father or who brings another gospel. Of course I will warn people of that false religion. Sam is willing to debate you now and show muhammad is an antichrist whenever you are ready. He is ready now. Say the word instead of playing games and I'll tell him you accept his challenge.
@KeithTruth Be honest with yourself and everyone else! YOU and Sam must apologize to JbreelK and to us for the lie you told, before starting any form of debate.
@KeithTruth He already responded to your idiotic video on YahyaSnow! Stop lying, Keith. You're being really pathetic here. JbreelK made it clear from the beginning that Sam is the one who does the debate and not you! Tell Sam to stop hiding because he and you are exposed. And on a personal note. Keith, you should be ashamed of working with a two faced, manipulating, ignorant, lowly character like Sam. Alas, you're probably just like him
@A2Neji nope I just uploaded my video today that I am talking about, he didn't respond to it yet. Mine responds to this one and his newest one... Get your facts in check and your brain working
@A2Neji Oh well yahya snow is not jibreelk so make your sentence better. The silly little comments about Abraham, the word Allah and muhammad smashing the hubal idol were already addressed long ago by me when refuting jibreelk so Snow shows himself to be ignorant and not following the debate. As for his appeal to craig, he's wrong and fell for some liberalism, other Christian scholars like Dr. Heisler have shown the binitarian and Trinitarian concepts in the OT and Jewish literature as I showed
@A2Neji Shamoun's a brother in the Lord who has helped me out lots so I owed him one. But my question to you is: are you a little cheerleader for people afraid to debate shamoun? That would be very sad.
@KeithTruth It's all well and good if you owe him, but I'd say you should repay your debt to him and walkaway, don't associate yourself with a man with such a lowly character, watch the videos exposing his true nature (Unless you're a twisted maniac who seeks rude vulgar twisted people)
As for me, I support whoever is right. And it doesn't take much to pound Shamoo, which is why he's hiding behind you! Ask him if he's still sore from Shabir Ally! XD
@A2Neji Shamoun is a brother who helped me out in the past with some stuff so I owed him one. But, are you a little cheerleader for cowards afraid to debate shamoun live?
@A2Neji Shamoun is a brother who helped me out in the past with some stuff so I owed him one. But, are you a little cheerleader for cowards afraid to debate shamoun live?
Jibreelk, Sam has provided me with the info on hubal, allah and the quranic issues from his articles and even reviewed my transcript adding in extra arguments. Moreover, the research I spoke of for the Trinity in the OT involved consulting Sam in discussion where he gave me verses and arguments. This is mostly Sam's material and his editing of the transcript. You are just scared to respond.
How can I be scared when I have replied to you over and over
This so called you are scared technique does not work - that's sand box play I told you
So admit the lies and we can move on... get sam to apologize and move on
I will debate him face to face -
I told you quoting and researchign someone's articles does not make that person the debater. Sam recorded many paltalks and they are vids so stop this I don't know how to make youtube
I only have a couple questions for everyone. Since Shamoun gave you information regarding Hubal and Allah, I wanna ask these questions. Is Shamoun an expert on Ancient Arabian Mythology and/or History? If that answer is no, what did he use to establish credibility for his argument? Now, is Shamoun an expert on Hebrew Scriptures? If not, how did he establish his credibility for his conclusion of the Trinity being present in the Old Testament?
ultimatemaijn 1 month ago
The problem with these missionaries is that they are never talking about islam as we muslim believe in it. They create their own islam noone believe in it....
But we muslim reject what they really believe in....
Logia1978 8 months ago
This guy should ask arab christians to know why they call god Allah....
Logia1978 8 months ago
The end of the story is that Keith is crying as his teacher has been clearly exposed. I am ready to debate Shamoun - He has been exposed as for who he is. I had to make it clear and that is why I am asking him to save face and say he was wrong. We will go on and do a face to face debate ..... no problem.. I am ready any day... just waiting for that I AM SORRY... I don't like to debate liars, but I am merciful and can forgive anyone who says sorry. We are waiting Sam.
JibreelK 10 months ago
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Assalamu aleykum brothers and sisters.
Brothers Yahyasnow and JibreelK how can you debate these people who are saying that they have found "trinity" in the OT????????? I mean isn't it obvious that they can find what ever they want and like and next thing you know they find that Sam S. was prophesied in the Bible or even in Quran. Serious, please don't waste your time trying to talk to them, just continue to expose them for their lies (which you have been doing great). Barakallah.
lom30 10 months ago
Honestly, man up here, people are saying "stop playing games" "stop this" "child that", do you not realize who this is affecting? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT INSIGHT AND TRYING TO REACH GOD HERE,THEY TRUST YOU AND WANT YOUR INFO.if a man steps on your foot he should apologize,if he doesn't, faults on him, get over it,if he didn't and you accuse him of stepping on your foot,to give you a reason to not do something,it's excuse,Now lets go, get on with refutation, or drop the issue. No stall tactics.
Shadowlooker12 10 months ago
For people of such an age, I would expect this to be over with already, really, being petty over an apology? hypothetically lets say Keith and Sam did do something wrong, what does that mean? why won't JibreelK just refute his argument anyway, it makes no sense, and then as an adult, you know full well once you agreed on the first sets of arguments in a debate, you knew the terms, so how can you then, at the last bit of arguments claim you have a problem with the terms now?
Shadowlooker12 10 months ago
KeithTruth is clearly wrong and weak ..wake up keith!
LoveGlueGunnin9 10 months ago
And why are you critiquing this video which is just telling people what the debate is about? I wasn't even trying to argue my position here lol. Respond to the actual debate video that shows all the evidence, this is laughable jibreelk - I expect a bit better.
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth The God that you worship has, de facto, Baal's Characteristics: A God who sleeps, travels and get busy with thoughts. That is the God who was taunted by Elijah.
1MoreMuslim 10 months ago
@1MoreMuslim If your strange thesis is correct, do any early sources say my God is baal like there are with when it comes to baal being your god? If not why attempt at arguing that view since it wouldn't be a comparison? Oh so baal had a temporary incarnation of limitation for 30 years to die for his people? And your god does't travel? What about S. 2:210?
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth What you call strange thesis is Elijah's words in the bible. If Baal doesn't sleep and travel, then Elijah is guilty of Lying about Baal. I am not saying that Jesus and Baal are the same in every point, I am saying that Elijah is mocking a God who sleeps and travels. That shows without doubt, that Elijah cannot believe in a God who sleeps and travel, otherwise his sarcasm would not make sense.
1MoreMuslim 10 months ago
@1MoreMuslim
Elija was mocking the future theologies to come, the ones where God sleeps pees and eats
Like most of Christian theology
Keith there is no response just stop playing and admit it
Mental gymnastics are over... we are exposing you
JibreelK 10 months ago
@KeithTruth About the temporary limitation of the incarnation; you are implicitly admitting that this limitation would be a problem if it's eternal, and that would make Jesus a false God. That only shows that you worship a temporary false God, assuming that his limitations are over now. I don't know everything about the Incarnation, but I think that the incarnation is still "real", otherwise show me where Jesus got rid of his human nature in the Bible? Try to answer without using Koranic verses.
1MoreMuslim 10 months ago
@KeithTruth
Why are you not telling people that you deceived me into believing Sam is doing the debate, while he is hiding saying he does not know how to make youtube vids? You are laughable Keith. You and Sam both. I expect more honesty from those who represent the prince of peace. I would have responded to the debate and I did already BUT I WANT SAM- GIVE ME SAM..... SAM AGREED FROM DAY ONE, BUT NO WHERE TO BE HEARD.
COming to thing of it I don't expect better from you or him
JibreelK 10 months ago
@KeithTruth You are laughable - as you claim to be the representative of the prince of peace yet you try to sow the seeds of hatred in people who want to learn about Islam... be honest admit what you guys did and we can move on. I will debate Sam... where is he by the way ... why do you always have to speak for him?
JibreelK 10 months ago 2
@JibreelK Islam is a 600 year later falsehood from the cunning snake satan but people of God see through it - since we were warned to reject any fallen angel or false teacher who denies the Son and Father or who brings another gospel. Of course I will warn people of that false religion. Sam is willing to debate you now and show muhammad is an antichrist whenever you are ready. He is ready now. Say the word instead of playing games and I'll tell him you accept his challenge.
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth
hahah '' I'll tell him you accept his challenge '' !
Whose challenge was it to begin with ?! Come on you're lying all the time... loosers
sabronn 10 months ago
@KeithTruth Be honest with yourself and everyone else! YOU and Sam must apologize to JbreelK and to us for the lie you told, before starting any form of debate.
A2Neji 10 months ago
@A2Neji see my second latest video for proof that jibreelk is the one lying here
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth He already responded to your idiotic video on YahyaSnow! Stop lying, Keith. You're being really pathetic here. JbreelK made it clear from the beginning that Sam is the one who does the debate and not you! Tell Sam to stop hiding because he and you are exposed. And on a personal note. Keith, you should be ashamed of working with a two faced, manipulating, ignorant, lowly character like Sam. Alas, you're probably just like him
A2Neji 10 months ago
@A2Neji nope I just uploaded my video today that I am talking about, he didn't respond to it yet. Mine responds to this one and his newest one... Get your facts in check and your brain working
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth You posted yours 12 hours ago, the response is 4 hours ago. can't you do the math here?
You're "air tight argument" is blown. You really are exposed for being a moron who doesn't know much.
A2Neji 10 months ago
@A2Neji Oh well yahya snow is not jibreelk so make your sentence better. The silly little comments about Abraham, the word Allah and muhammad smashing the hubal idol were already addressed long ago by me when refuting jibreelk so Snow shows himself to be ignorant and not following the debate. As for his appeal to craig, he's wrong and fell for some liberalism, other Christian scholars like Dr. Heisler have shown the binitarian and Trinitarian concepts in the OT and Jewish literature as I showed
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth Do you always like to hang on by a string? Just tell me this, do you like working as a lap dog for Shamoo? Are you sincerely proud of it?
A2Neji 10 months ago
@A2Neji Shamoun's a brother in the Lord who has helped me out lots so I owed him one. But my question to you is: are you a little cheerleader for people afraid to debate shamoun? That would be very sad.
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth It's all well and good if you owe him, but I'd say you should repay your debt to him and walkaway, don't associate yourself with a man with such a lowly character, watch the videos exposing his true nature (Unless you're a twisted maniac who seeks rude vulgar twisted people)
As for me, I support whoever is right. And it doesn't take much to pound Shamoo, which is why he's hiding behind you! Ask him if he's still sore from Shabir Ally! XD
A2Neji 10 months ago
@A2Neji Shamoun is a brother who helped me out in the past with some stuff so I owed him one. But, are you a little cheerleader for cowards afraid to debate shamoun live?
KeithTruth 10 months ago
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@A2Neji Shamoun is a brother who helped me out in the past with some stuff so I owed him one. But, are you a little cheerleader for cowards afraid to debate shamoun live?
KeithTruth 10 months ago
Jibreelk, Sam has provided me with the info on hubal, allah and the quranic issues from his articles and even reviewed my transcript adding in extra arguments. Moreover, the research I spoke of for the Trinity in the OT involved consulting Sam in discussion where he gave me verses and arguments. This is mostly Sam's material and his editing of the transcript. You are just scared to respond.
KeithTruth 10 months ago
@KeithTruth
How can I be scared when I have replied to you over and over
This so called you are scared technique does not work - that's sand box play I told you
So admit the lies and we can move on... get sam to apologize and move on
I will debate him face to face -
I told you quoting and researchign someone's articles does not make that person the debater. Sam recorded many paltalks and they are vids so stop this I don't know how to make youtube
You lied and he lied... Stop this child game
JibreelK 10 months ago 2
keith and the fat pig have no life , all they do is talk .
izlamiztruth 10 months ago