Thanks for your note mikejr1387--but you misunderstood my remark. Haydn DID admire this work but advised Beethoven against publication because he felt the audiences would not understand it. Remember this was Beethoven's first work with opus number.
Haydn was just giving a sage man's advice. No surprise that Beethoven didn't take it!
All the tempi here are on the slow side. This early, yet musically mature, work of Beethoven, (much admired by Haydn) would seem to call for a brisker, livelier approach throughout.
Good music making but certainly on the stodgy side--not only lack of speed but lack of vibrant urgency.
swanningaround go to other videos and fight with kids and children trying to listen to christmas music.. go check out maruah carey silent night and joy to the world.
I'm surprised you think this. Tovey says somewhere that when B. writes prestissimo it is important not to take it fast - this absolutely applies here. For an Opus 1 this piece is remarkably more than an adolescent romp, with many aspects of elegance and even a sort of nostalgia, all of which could easily get lost if it is rushed.
Wasn't it this trio that Haydn advised Beethoven not to publish, stirring a feud between them that caused Beethoven to abandon his studies w/ Haydn? Yes, i think you have your facts mixed up, sorry!
thank you so much for uploading this wonderful work! may i make an interesting point though:
part 1 views: 10,838
part 2 6,910
part 3 5,703
what can we infer from the above? the short attention span of your average youtube viewer. it's a trend I have often noticed with other classical music videos if they have more than one part...hehe
tituscaesar. I love them all, and have favorited them all. The trio are all master practioners. Szeryng is a personal favorite of mine. I don't know much about Hölscher, but am definitely impressed. Naturally Kempff's name appeared in nearly every DG recording in the 70s.
Please enlighten me as to how it is, in your opinion 'terrible'. Your comments are worthless and foolish if you cannot qualify them. Say something itelligent or else be silent!
Ach, ich weiß gar nicht, womit ich überhaupt beginnen sollte. Vielleicht damit, dass Beethoven den Satz mit "Prestissimo" überschrieb und vorallem damit, dass sich Kempff gleich zu Beginn völlig verspielt und nichtmal die richtigen Töne trifft? Wie wäre es damit? Im übrigen habe ich eine Version dieses Satzes hochgeladen, den ich für w e s e n t l i c h gelungener halte.
SergeiReiter-many tx for this trio, but perhaps you could post the 3 movements in a single video? You can hear the entire 7th Symphony in a single video here in YouTube (33 minutes), so maybe? This trio is so beautiful, it's a shame to interrupt it abruptly at the end of each movement.
Why sound like first year students' rehearsal?
grab1piece 4 months ago
Weird surroundings... and Szeryng hacks. Sorry, but it's true.
buxter 1 year ago
@buxter Agreed, also listen to how bad Kempf is - please tell me why people rate him as a great pianist?
chrish12345 2 months ago
Thanks for your note mikejr1387--but you misunderstood my remark. Haydn DID admire this work but advised Beethoven against publication because he felt the audiences would not understand it. Remember this was Beethoven's first work with opus number.
Haydn was just giving a sage man's advice. No surprise that Beethoven didn't take it!
ipmoic 2 years ago
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giotto3cento 2 years ago
All the tempi here are on the slow side. This early, yet musically mature, work of Beethoven, (much admired by Haydn) would seem to call for a brisker, livelier approach throughout.
Good music making but certainly on the stodgy side--not only lack of speed but lack of vibrant urgency.
ipmoic 2 years ago
I think it is just wonderful. The slower style, as you say, give the work a more pensive and introsepective quality.
swanningaround 2 years ago
swanningaround go to other videos and fight with kids and children trying to listen to christmas music.. go check out maruah carey silent night and joy to the world.
claude69mama 2 years ago
@claude69mama Fight with kids? I merely said that Mariah Carey is not for me the greatest human being that ever walked the planet. I stand by that.
swanningaround 1 year ago
I'm surprised you think this. Tovey says somewhere that when B. writes prestissimo it is important not to take it fast - this absolutely applies here. For an Opus 1 this piece is remarkably more than an adolescent romp, with many aspects of elegance and even a sort of nostalgia, all of which could easily get lost if it is rushed.
niintuli 2 years ago
Good call. The musicianship is really top notch, but the approach is very old school and not very historically informed.
oatboy 2 years ago
Wasn't it this trio that Haydn advised Beethoven not to publish, stirring a feud between them that caused Beethoven to abandon his studies w/ Haydn? Yes, i think you have your facts mixed up, sorry!
mikejr41387 2 years ago
Gorgeous! Bravo! TY.
paulostroff99 2 years ago
Superb. Thank you
galapz 3 years ago
I just have to stop doing any other things to watch and listen!! Thanks so much for uploading the video!!
Alucinoria 3 years ago
thank you so much for uploading this wonderful work! may i make an interesting point though:
part 1 views: 10,838
part 2 6,910
part 3 5,703
what can we infer from the above? the short attention span of your average youtube viewer. it's a trend I have often noticed with other classical music videos if they have more than one part...hehe
tituscaesar 3 years ago
tituscaesar. I love them all, and have favorited them all. The trio are all master practioners. Szeryng is a personal favorite of mine. I don't know much about Hölscher, but am definitely impressed. Naturally Kempff's name appeared in nearly every DG recording in the 70s.
swanningaround 3 years ago
What movement is played at the beginning of this part?
violinist102 3 years ago
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This is terrible. Nobody would like their playing, if they wouldn't know, that Kempff and co. are the interpreters.
holzfaellen 3 years ago
lol go home
narrog7 3 years ago
Please enlighten me as to how it is, in your opinion 'terrible'. Your comments are worthless and foolish if you cannot qualify them. Say something itelligent or else be silent!
kundalini76 3 years ago
Ach, ich weiß gar nicht, womit ich überhaupt beginnen sollte. Vielleicht damit, dass Beethoven den Satz mit "Prestissimo" überschrieb und vorallem damit, dass sich Kempff gleich zu Beginn völlig verspielt und nichtmal die richtigen Töne trifft? Wie wäre es damit? Im übrigen habe ich eine Version dieses Satzes hochgeladen, den ich für w e s e n t l i c h gelungener halte.
holzfaellen 3 years ago
Wtf? This is what they interpret to be prestissimo?
elias12186 3 years ago 2
love them all.
classicmusic08 4 years ago
SergeiReiter-many tx for this trio, but perhaps you could post the 3 movements in a single video? You can hear the entire 7th Symphony in a single video here in YouTube (33 minutes), so maybe? This trio is so beautiful, it's a shame to interrupt it abruptly at the end of each movement.
musicdivinemusic 4 years ago
Add them to your playlist or favorites and simply click on auto play. That way the unterruption won't be too irritating.
macpaz 3 years ago
Wasn't it Haydn who said that the public would understand the first 2 trios of Opus I, but were not yet ready for the Trio performed here??
ipmoic 4 years ago
Marvellous! Many tx for this series of 3 videos with the complete trio. I'm enjoying this one enormously!
musicdivinemusic 4 years ago
I love Kempff
musikgeni 4 years ago 2
SAME HERE! KEMPFF ROX!
Pianoman1770 3 years ago