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  • it is anglican we sing it in the anglican rite roman catholic church

  • I am a fan of HIGH CHURCH SERVICES.  MAY IT ALWAYS BE SO.

  • In response to several comments: In many large downtown United Methodist Churches, the choirs wear robes and process in the traditional services. Not so much in smaller or rural ones.

    I thought it was interesting that the harmonization wasn't the one in the UM Hymnal. Not good or bad, just different.

  • @Craspic Thank you for a balanced response. It is a very American rendition/cultural setting, which is fine.

  • Would to God that we would return to the richness of traditional hymnody, liturgy and architecture. I love how you cannot get into the church with out passing through the baptismal font in this church building. Pray for renewal, true renewal in the church.

  • This has got to be an Anglican/Episcopal Church service.

  • @qlaw04 Could as easily have been a Lutheran service, whether ELCA or LCMS, especially in a parish

    with high church/evangelical catholic leanings.

  • @marysueeasteregg Many ECLA churches aren't like that though. At least not the ones mostly consisting of young families. 

  • The Word does not change but is Everlasting, so why is there the need to sugar coat the way we worship the Lord our God today in Church? That is basically what is being done with all these so called new Praise and Worship songs. I am sorry if get nothing from a service that is presented so casually that I feel like I am at a cafe listening to some sort of performer and not in Church HUMBLING myself to the Lord and opening my heart for his Spirit to move in me.

  • This never ceases to bring me to tears ... BLESS YOU FATHER , SON & HOLY GHOST , now and forever more.

  • All you critics this is one of the hymns we sang each day at assembly during high school in the UK. 1967-1973

  • Well, this is certainly a better pace than the Detroit version! However, both of you leave out the pedal note on the first beat! Why is this? It's written (well, in Ausralian hymn books anyway...) Boom - For all the saints.... ONE - two - three - four .... etc.

    Love the robed up Methodists - we don't have any Methodists here any more since Church Union in 1977. Too bad. But still a few robed Anglican choirs if you search hard enough.

  • ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ play slower play slower!!!!!

  • Yep, it's a United Methodist church, all right! Did you hear the hokey modulation to a higher key for the last verse, and the tacky Broadway-style coda? This is supposed to be corporate worship, not a theatrical extravaganza. An Episcopal musician wouldn't be caught dead exhibiting such poor taste.

  • Is this a Methodist Church???

    It looks to me like a low Anglican Church.

    The priestesses are wearing green stolls - its All Saint's - it should be white or gold!!

  • @yewtreelodge

    Priestesses??? What rock did you crawl out from under?

  • As a United Methodist pastor, I believe it is important to include connections to the liturgies of the church while at the same time respecting and understanding that we are now in the year 2010. Praise in worship is Scriptural and for all too many years in the every shrinking mainline churches that essential element of celebrating God has been dismissed in a manner that has chased young people out of our doors. Come and worship in our church ... all the elements of worship will be celebrated!

  • Hi, Bob! A hometown friend on Facebook linked to this, & I was tickled to see it was Mount Olivet and that you were playing the organ in the video. I commented that this is where Ron and I married in '92, and you were the organist. Good to hear from you, albeit indirectly. Hope you're enjoying your retirement. -- Lallie Leighton, Annandale, VA

  • Is this really a Methodist church as methodists over here would say it is anglican. As an anglican I would tend to agree as with a robed choir and procession it feels like one. Methodist churches over here do not have robed choirs and processions and the way their churches are laid out a procession is not possible. In deed their ministers do not wear vestments and many just are in a smart suit.

    Strictly speaking the lectionary states that the colours for all saints are gold or white.

  • @x8lover

    Yes, I was organist-choirmaster at this United Methodist Church for over 27 years. The service on the tape was NOT on All Saints Day. The service was the Sunday FOLLOWING All Saints. I do agree the colours for All Saints Day are gold or white. Thanks for listening/watching. Hope you enjoyed the video. - Bob

  • @bob4120 Great job!!

  • @x8lover I was raised in the United Methodist Church in Pennsylvania. This service and hymn is much like those i remember form my youth. If I recall my confirmation lessons correctly John Wesley, from whose influence Methodism developed, never left the Anglican church. Wouldn't one reasonably expect that those Anglican roots might not only just be alive but also be vibrant in some place? This is not a performance but rather heartfelt worship. I am deeply moved.

  • @x8lover I Do agree. John Wesley was "Anglican Methodist" I do see an Anglican sermon in this. I am Anglican though

  • @x8lover - I am originally from Mount Hoole Methodist Church but attended an Anglican High School and while at my church we do proceed with a robed choir and our Ministers wear vestments, the procession (Flag, Cross, etc) in this video is quite Anglican.

  • I often watch this video. I very much like the church.

  • Bob, does the organ have a 32 feet pedal. Seems it could use one?

    Thanks

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  • AMEN to that, Cleo! :-)

  • Love this hymn. For a real knockout, pagentry-esque, elaborate version- you've got to got to Washington Nat'l Cathedral's site and watch the service from November 5, 2006. Best I've ever seen.

  • Of course. This is an Anglican/Episcopal hymn by Ralph Vaughn Williams and no one does it better than an Episcopal church on All Saints Sunday. The procession, choir, clergy.,.it is so uplifting and beautiful. I am Episcopalian and no one does pagentry and dignity better.

  • Beautiful, but performed November 4, 1997 All Saints Sunday that year.

  • I'm an atheist, but I love this hymn.

  • How could anyone be an atheist after listening to the words and grand music of this outstanding song? It is a great example of God's great love and His salvation. Maybe God will save you and you can REALLY enjoy this song as it is meant to be enjoyed, is my prayer for you Donna! Don't give up calling out to God, He will hear you!

  • This is going to help me a LOT. I'm trying to learn this song without sheet music (can't find it online). I think if I sing along with this video often enough, I may be able to handle it by Sunday. It's glorious.

  • Are the clergy wearing green stoles? Please tell me that ain't so!

  • Were you expecting white (or red) in observance of All Saints? It appears my United Methodist Church kept the paraments and stoles "ordinary" green (22nd Sunday after The Pentecost ... in Ordinary Time) until the color change on the 1st Sunday of Advent. - Sorry. LOL

  • Should be white, not green.

  • Always white on All Saints Day...at least in The Episcopal Church and this is one of our finest Anglican hymns.

  • @901cleo In the Lutheran church, too. Although red would also be acceptable in a pinch.

  • Red would do but white preferable. We are in communion with ELCA

  • @dlw412

    Glad I"m not the only one who noticed that.

  • I've always seen white on All Saints; if I saw green, I'd assume that the pastors or Altar Guild had messed up.

    In our Lutheran churches, between Pentecost and Advent, our paraments change for Thanksgiving, Reformation, All Saints and Christ the King Sunday (Last Sunday of the church year, this year the 22nd of November).

  • ETA: I also wouldn't be surprised to see red, as it would be the colour of martyrs, who would count as saints.

    That being said, every church I've been in uses white for All Saints.

  • Used to sing this when I was at school - one of my favourites. You have to thank R.Vaughan Williams for the music and Bishop W.W. How for the words. A splendid song.

  • First 18 seconds with green backdrop quite dreadful.

    Five stars thereafter a delight.

  • Still has the Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Aloysius Glasgow going...

  • "And when the strife is fierce, the warfare long,

    steals on the ear the distant triumph song,

    and hearts are brave again, and arms are strong.

    Alleluia, Alleluia!"

    I know in my church All Saints sunday we always remembered they who fell asleep in the LORD for the passed year...

    This song always holds a special place in my heart, soul and memory...

    It invgorates me to look forward to eventually joining all of the saints of old that fell asleep...

  • This is really a Methodist service?  Wow!

  • i thot the same thing...must be on the Methodist Episcipal side of the merge. we're umc but not near as high church as this.

  • Wow, this is beautiful! I think it was John Wesley's desire to enliven the Church of England after his experience of feeling "strangely warmed." I feel "strangely warmed" after listening to this hymn. Father Wesley would be proud of Mount Olivet.

  • Is this a Catholic church?

  • thanks for this posting...it looks just like Miller Chapel, on the Princeton Theological Seminary campus (minus the font), where i rec'd my Divinity degree in 1985...the chapel has since changed, but this really brings back great visuals...

  • Thank you for posting this moving video of one my favorite hymns. If I'm ever in the D.C. area I would like to visit your church, especially if its on the Sunday when you commerate All Staints Day.

  • And yet another Roman Catholic here. Singing praise to God in such a beautiful way can only honor Him, regardless of the denomination of the Christian chuch in which it is being played and sung. Wonderful! Thank you so much.

  • I like it :)

  • The golden evening brightens in the west;

    Soon, soon to faithful warriors comes their rest;

    Sweet is the calm of paradise the blessed.

    Alleluia, Alleluia!

    Amen

  • wonderful. and sure looks anglican to me....but heck maybe we share more than we know!

  • As a good Anglican, I wish many of our churches were so full of this spirit shown by our Methodist brothers and sisters. John Wesley (one of the better products of our Anglican Church) would be proud how you kept his vision. Well Done! Christus vincet, Christus regnat, Christus imperar!

  • Who says mainline churches are dead and everyone wants one of those (awful in my view) "happy-clappy" so called mega-churches? This Methodist place looks full to me. Gives me hope for the other mainline Churches.

  • As a Methodist, it is good to see a large Methodist congregation singing and worshipping in a more tradtional manner. I see TOO many congregations moving towards this praise and worship theme, like the congregation I belong to, and disregarding the time tested roots of the Christian Church.

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  • @Cummins45306 I agree! I'm 15 and would rather see a traditional style of worship(of course, I'm an Episcopalian, not Methodist, but still). If I wanted Christian rock I would turn on The River.

  • @jackam10 Our Episcopal tradition keeps alive the truly great hymns. I would balk if I saw praise worship bands creep into our liturgy. Never let that happen.

  • @Cummins45306 how's this for "time-tested":

    "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.)" I Corinthians 9:20.

    Ooops! Since your "time-tested" music is only, say 500 years old AT MOST, you've been "quadruply-trumped" there.

    Thank God, literally, for people who do not think like you today.

  • @Cummins45306 AMEN!!!!

  • Not bad for a United Methodist Church. Somebody is teaching this congregation well in the ways of Worship!

  • One of the most powerful hymns ever, and done to perfection. I would love seeing more from this fantastic organist/choirmaster and choir.

  • Question: Is this an Anglican church?

  • No. This is a United Methodist Church.

  • @bob4120

    Like the United Methodist Church I remember when I was young. I have been a Methodist all my life. My dad was Evangelical United Brethren but my mother was a Methodist.

    THIS! is the warrior spirit of reverence and nobility that is, sadly, lacking in the Methodist Church as of late. I haven't been to church in a long time for that reason. I am glad to see such FAITH! still exists somewhere in the Methodist Church.

  • Very powerful hymn.  The organist is incrediable! I wish i was as good as him

  • Thanks.  Glad you liked it!

  • This is so breathtakingly inspiring, I can't even put it into words. What a glorious, fitting way to praise the Lord. Absolutely sent a chill down my spine! Glorious!

  • Thanks for your words.  It was a joy to lead the congregation in this hymn as organist-choirmaster.

  • i love that hymn i am roman catholic

  • This past Sunday was the celebration of All Saints Day and the first time I have really heard this Hymn since my Mother passed away in January. The Church presented banners dedicated to those saints closest to our hearts as this was sung. I don't know how I made it through, but I know she was there with me, smiling and saying "All is well my child, I am with Christ."

  • I dedicate this to my father, who just passed from this earth Sept. 10.

    I agree so much with all of the above!

    We sing this in the Episcopal Church. It is ironic, and sad, that All Saint's Day is obscured by the secular day previous to it, All Hallow's Eve, or Halloween.

    Thank you, Bob, for the info on the hymn, and for posting the singing of it at your wonderful church!

  • I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. This past Sunday (November 2) was All Saints' Sunday. We sang this as the closing hymn. It is #422 in Evangelical Lutheran Worship in the Festivals, Commemorations section. Just thought I'd share.

  • Absolutely beautiful! I never had heard that hymn, until I joined a Disciples of Christ church. It has become one of my favorites, and I want it played at my funeral...which should be MANY years away! :)

  • This is a fabulous presentation of this beautiful hymn! It's so refreshing to hear it sung to the majestic sound of your pipe organ. You and your choir really made my heart soar in worship.

  • Just yesterday we held the memorial service for my mother, who would have been 89 on All Saints Day, but passed away on Oct. 27th. It was a joy to hear this hymn played on the pipe organ as we exited the church. Hearing it whetted my appetite to hear it again, so I decided to see if it was on YouTube. The rendition on this video was especially beautiful. Thank you!

  • My prayers are with you during this difficult time of loss. I'm pleased you found my video and that it was a source of beauty ... both in text and music.

  • Thanks for the inspiration. It's great to know that we have saints we can ask to pray for us. I'm writing this on All Saint's Day -- not 'the day after Hallowe'en.

  • Great rendition. It is nice to see a church sing all six verses of this moving hymn!

  • Thanks. I enjoyed leading the congregation in this hymn each All Saints' Sunday.

  • Thanks for sharing the processional along with this special hymn. Lovely church, and how nice to see it packed!

  • I am a lover of music of all kinds especially that which lauds the name of Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour! It is an honor to listen (even in the wee hours of the morning) to a hymn that is well executed and performed with the optimum level of precision. I remember singing this in the United Methodist Church and remembering the beauty that rang through. Thanks for sharing so unselfishly from your services...God's blessing be with you.

  • I can't begin to tell you the emotions this hymn stirs up for me. It brings tears to my eyes. Shortly before my dear beloved mother went to meet Jesus, she sang this hymn in perfect pitch, loudly, with great clarity, all verses, not missing a single word, though she was 93, had dementia, and could normally only speak in a raspy whisper with great difficulty. I can't explain this, except to say that with God all things are possible. Thank you for posting this lovely inspired hymn, Bob. God bless.

  • I am honored that this hymn (via this recording) brought forth emotions of inspiration and good memories of your mother. Music is a marvelous gift. When coupled with words of faith, it can move us to that infinite realm of mystery and joy!

  • here here, i am sorry for your loss though.

  • Love this hymn....

    "and when the strife is fierce, the warfare long, steals on the ear the distant triumph song, and hearts are brave again and arms are strong"...

    My favorite stanza... An excellent "pick me up" when things go tough...

    Thanks for posting this beautiful hymn

  • You're welcome! Thanks for your words. I agree that those words are powerful!

  • Alas, that verse has been relegated to a footnote in my church's hymnal and we never sing the verse any more. You see, it's not politically correct to have hymns with the word "warfare" in it -- even in an allegorical sense. Sigh.

  • Interesting. Which hymnal is this?

  • Beautiful. Human beings at their best. I love to see this and join in, in the singing It is beautiful and comforting. I love it.

    Praise God, Alleluia!

    Thanks for sharing.

    Welldone.

  • i like the little old lady towards the end coming in late!

  • Thanks for your words about the essence of this music, text, faith, etc. I'm thinking now what that dear lady had to go through JUST TO GET TO church. I recently received word that she died a few months ago.

  • She's so cute...God Bless her heart!!!

  • there no need to get all proud about the words just cos u know them! it is well sung tho, well done choir!

  • i dont needs the lyrics and i didnt grow up

    in the Episcopal church. I know it from doing it in my choir.

    love it though

  • I like it :)

  • Those of us who grew up in the Episcopal church and know this hymn don't need the lyrics posted across the screen ):

  • Mmany thanks, that was very uplifting; especially as today would have been my Silver Wedding, if my Husband had survived.

  • The text and music of "For All the Saints" remains a favorite of mine. I'm glad you found this recording uplifting on this special day in your life.

  • Your words please me greatly! I am inspired to share more "processional" recordings.

  • As I look at the score and listen to your version again, I'm fairly certain you inserted additional harmonizations in all of the verses? Am I correct? For example I hear a note in the 8th measure that is a 6th higher than it should be. I could just be hearing things...psychoacoustic compression used by youtube can play tricks on one's ears. Whatever you did it sounds great. The church was lucky to have you as an organist!

  • Thanks. I am not aware of anything special in the 8th measure; although, I arranged this for the "Sinfonia" that Sunday to play with the organ. It could be the overtones of the organ and violins (played up the octave), etc. Who knows? So much of my playing was spur of the moment "orchestral" realizations, "working the acoustics of the room" etc., while striving to maintain steady tempi.

  • An absolutely splendid rendering. Thanks for posting it.

  • What a superb rendition this is.

    It is one of my favourite hymns and the Music by Vaughan Williams is outstanding.

    Brilliantly Sung.

  • We often sang For All the Saints at school assembly in the mornings. Another favourite hymn was Ye Holy Angels Bright! If there is one hymn the words of which I still remember so well then it's that one!

  • We sang this for the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist, this previous summer. I would really like to sing this for All Saints' Day, but our Organist usually has us sing "Lift High the Cross".

  • This was one of my father's favorite hymns, and was sung as the final (recessional) hymn at his funeral in 1985. Your congregation's version is one of the finest I've heard.  Thank you for posting it.

  • I'm glad you found this video meaningful. "For All the Saints" is a favorite hymn of mine, as well.

  • This was sung at the 500th anniversary of the founding of my school back in 1987, and it has remained close to my heart ever since...

    thanks for posting

  • I am so pleased this hymn brought back happy memories for you.

  • This hymn was written by Ralph Vaughn Williams for the long, stately, dignified processions we love in the Anglican (Episcopal) tradition. Far better than Onward Christian Soliders, musically and lyrically. It is uniformly sung on All Saints Sunday in the Episcopal Church. This is a sweet, little procession by the Methodists, choir is quite good, and would be considered good low church. We do love pageantry in the Anglican Church, the bigger and more glorious, the better.

  • Awesome!! Love this hymn, i play it often, on our Casavant!!

  • Thanks. I really respect the sound of Cassavant organs. I'm sure your church's instrument is beautiful.

  • Almost as good as "Onward Christian Soldiers"!

  • This hymn never fails to bring tears to my eyes. It is unutterably moving.

  • Beautiful !  it is very approporate for funerals.

  • Very Impressive!

    This is one of the few hymns in our hymnbook that has a different harmonization for certain verses. It is a nice touch.

  • This great hymn appeared in the Baptist Hymnal 1976 edition. We often sang it in the small Southern Baptist Church in which I served as pastor in Columbus, Georgia. Great arrangement! Wish we had more great organists instead of the constant "contemporary" instrumentation of many churches today.

  • Thanks for your words. This is one of my favorite hymns. I enjoyed leading the choir and congregation as organist-choirmaster.

  • Great to see Methodists playing at being

    Anglicans (Are those Cottas the Choir is wearing?). You never see processions and Cotta'd Choirs in methodist chruches in England, far too High Church.

  • Thanks. The choir vestment is a cathedral length surplice over cassock.

  • With square yokes? that says cotta to me, but if you say so!

  • Perhaps, either cotta or surplice could be used. The children's round yoke garment worn over cassock was called "cotta" by the robe company (not as long as the full "cathedral" length surplice). Anyway, this church has a long nave and nice acoustices that work well for processionals. [Great to "talk" with you.]

  • In the Church of England Cottas (square yoked to waste) would only altar servers.

    Surplices (round necked of varying length, depending on how "high Church you are) are worn by the Choir.

    Both Garments may be worn by Priests but not when at mass.

  • Thanks! I welcome receiving that information.

  • probably a bit "over the top" with arrangement but otherwise absolutely fine.

  • I love "over the top!"

    Way over!

  • Fab him, just sang it in our baptist church

  • I absolutley love this piece but it is never played in sothern baptist churches

  • Another great hymn, thank you Bob. Motivational and inspiring.

  • Thanks!  I'm glad to share.

  • i never cared much for the tune for this hymn, i like the words tho. Nonetheless, very well done here.

  • Bob, I've recorded a 3disc CD of hymns of which Sine Nomine is included (9 mins. long!). I'd like to send you the 'sampler' CD (minus Sine Nomine on it) if we can figure out just how to do that. I think you would enjoy it, so please let me know. -Mark

  • Another well done job Bob. My all time favorite hymn. My once a year church attendance is always on the 1st Sunday in November, just so that I can hear Sine Nomine. I'll be in church tomorrow Sun. 11/4/07 Thanks Bob!

  • This is a difficult hymn to find on the internet. Thank you so much for the video!

  • You're welcome! I hope to upload more majestic hymns like this.

  • It is indeed. I just looked for it unsuccessfully a couple weeks ago. Many thanks!

  • Magnificent, really magnificent! I'm touched...

  • Thanks! I have many processional hymns like this on video. I enjoyed making the music and words special for the people.

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