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  • I wanted to hear what the pope actually said. You mocking him is really unhelpful to the situation by the way.

  • I think that Gays shod be boxed away.

    Any one that want more details just ask me.

  • Just because the Pope corresponds to a gay stereotype doesn't mean he's gay. It just means that a lot of his fans are gay.

  • POWER TO GAYS AND LESBIANS! Tuberculothic mongoloids like MrBuster128 are going crazy. First they said that gays can't have children. Then, they opposed to adoption, and NOW! Now that gays and lesbians can have BIOLOGICAL children, these tuberculothic mongoloidsshould kill themselves. Religionists will putrify while they are still alive!

  • @MrBuster128 therefore, people who can't have children (heterosexual couples) are sinners, right? We are in 2011, how could we possibly tolerate mongoloids like yourself who use religion to justify their stupidity? Since you mormons love to quote Leviticus about homosexuality, Leviticus also said that eating crustaceous was a sin. Why you never quote Leviticus on that?

  • First of all, if sex was aimed solely at procreation, heterosexuals would be sinners more than gays, since heterosexuals are having sex not aimed at procreation, despite the fact that they (heterosexuals) are biologically apt to have children (in your stupid logic). When I hear someone saying that it takes a man and a woman to have children, I feel like I want to take a huge dump in their mouth and cover them with puke. What the fuck does this have to do with being born gay?

  • The only thing I thing about being gay is bad is you can't get pregnant it would be nice if a gay couple could really have a baby of their own.

  • @Cacowninja You have just put more proof out there that being gay is biologically wrong. It takes a man and a woman to have a child naturally. Thank you for pointing that out.

  • @MrBuster128 in your opinion, someone who has always and unambiguously been attracted to people of the same gender, what should they do? No woder there are so many fake marriages where lesbians or gay guys get married and have children, just because they are trying to hide their real orientation. You should talk to women who found out that they were married to a gay guy, they would kill you. They fell betrayed and deceived. You repulsive hypocrite! Stop with the child bullshit!

  • A bunch of unmarried men dressed in weird costume? Not gay? Little boys singing? Not gay? Pope Benedict XVI: "Only Male Whores Can Use Condoms" Hmm, what is he trying to say? That "it" is better without condom? Gay? They don't want to have sex with woman (They hate pussy..) but they live with other man!? WTF?! They are gay! That is why they hate gay...

  • @oneofusall I believe this is the dumbest argument for gays i have ever heard.

  • Gays need help. Homosexuality is a sexual disorder.

  • @MrBuster128 You need MENTAL help. Homophobics need HELP.

  • @slickwillie1947 Those opposed to homosexual behavior are often charged with "homophobia"—that they hold the position they do because they are "afraid" of homosexuals. Sometimes the charge is even made that these same people are perhaps homosexuals themselves and are overcompensating to hide this fact, even from themselves, by condemning other homosexuals.

  • @slickwillie1947 Both of these arguments attempt to stop rational discussion of an issue by shifting the focus to one of the participants. In doing so, they dismiss another person’s arguments based on some real or supposed attribute of the person. In this case, the supposed attribute is a fear of homosexuals.

  • @slickwillie1947 Like similar attempts to avoid rational discussion of an issue, the homophobia argument completely misses the point. Even if a person were afraid of homosexuals, that would not diminish his arguments against their behavior. The fact that a person is afraid of handguns would not nullify arguments against handguns, nor would the fact that a person might be afraid of handgun control diminish arguments against handgun control.

  • @slickwillie1947 he homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way "afraid" of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear. One can disagree with something without fearing it, and the attempt to shut down rational discussion by crying "homophobe!" falls flat. It is an attempt to divert attention from the arguments against one’s position by focusing attention on the one who made the arguments,

  • @slickwillie1947 ..... while trying to claim the moral high ground against him.

  • @seththeorchdork5

    I am Catholic, and God created marriage between man and women, that is why The Catholic Church opposes it.

  • @FindChristFindLife How do YOU know God created marriage ? The bible was written by homophobics.Not God

  • ironic that the advertisment is that devil movie lol

  • why don`t the gays get over it,this pope does`nt like you and he`s entitled to his view as in free society we supposed to have,of course i don`t really like him but i don`t completely disagree with the churches view on gays

  • I AM A CATHOLIC. I BELIEVE THE CHURCH SHOULD BE REFORMED TO ACCEPT GAYS INTO THEIR SOCIETY!

  • @TheCursedChosen1 Must you use caps-lock to share that?

  • @ThreePockySticks I just like to do that for emphasis. Anyway, I'm just sharing my thoughts on how we Catholics need to reform a few teachings. Perhaps a second Catholic Reformation?

  • @TheCursedChosen1 I too am Catholic and I believe that all Christain Religions need to realize that by banning and bashing on Homosexuals we are contradicting ourselves. Let's get back to God's way of love, and acceptance.

  • I hope he get shot!

  • Ha, ha, ha This comes from a man that wears a frock, and lies about God.

  • I'd remove the pope and religion with that sad sack of shit... Pope himself probably touched boys like me back in the day

  • catholics paedophile supporting scum

    catholics are the worst immoral scum in human history

    .

  • Im catholic and think the current pope is a knob. Nothing wrong with gay marraige.

  • Religion is soooo evil. Did I just see someone say something like ' stop being gay and you will get better' What a fucking knob....evil religion at play once more.

  • the pope is SOOOOOOOOOOO GAY. He talks shit about gays to divert attention from his gayness. The church has been doing this for centuries. Fucking bastard, all religions should be prohibited, religions are for dumb ass motherfuckers. Homosexuality is genetic, it's not a perversion. People who are against homosexuality should be tortured to death, see their first born eaten by lions and then they should be burned alive

  • @josephineratzinger It has never been proved the the cause of homosexuality is genetic. It's still not well understood today.

  • @joe263263 it's genetic. If it was not genetic, everybody would be potentially gay. If it was nurture over nature, nobody would be gay, since gay have always been ostracized. Enough of this stupid religion

  • @josephineratzinger That doesn't make sense. Of course being gay isn't a choice, but that does it mean it's cause is only genetic. It's probably a combination of environmental and genetic factors, but like I said, it's still not well understood.

  • @joe263263 whether genetic or not, or a combination of nature and nurture, the point is that the pope and all this fucking religions should stick their tongues in their asses and stop demonizing homosexuality. Enough. We are in 2010 and we still believe this BS?

  • @josephineratzinger I agree. Not only did he say that homosexuals are a treat to humanity, but he said using condoms actually give aids. I dunno what's going on in his head, that guy is seriously retarded.

  • @josephineratzinger yes well obviously humans have some genetic predisposition to want to breed hence our organs but perhaps those of a higher intellectual being are not bound by the common laws of genetics and instead seek to find their true match which can only be found in someone similar to them hence same gender.. not fair to say nasty stuff poeple jsut act like they are a waste of space because they cant breed... argh human conformity is th ultimate penalty for life as a human on ths earth

  • @josephineratzinger , wow, you have anger issues which need to be addressed with therapy! I know a nice FRIENDLY priest who can give you a helping hand! o.O

  • @99minerkc look at what the nice FRIENDLY priest has done to you! No, thank you, keep the nice FRIENDLY priest for yourself, honey.

  • @josephineratzinger ahhaha just cos ur a fukn fag.

  • @ChsSami I will post your private messages where you say you like to eat shit while getting fucked in the ass by dogs! You should learn how to write in English.

  • @josephineratzinger wtf... ur a weird kid... i dont want to know about ur fantasies ...im just saying... all priests like it up the bum.

  • @josephineratzinger i agree the pope probably cant come out because the boys he likes are still being weaned off the breast LMAO

  • @josephineratzinger

    thats a bit harsh lol

  • Far from being the moral GIANTS, the Catholic hierarchy want us to imagine them to be, see what moral PYGMIES they have proven themselves to be by Googling "RCscandal" (oneword) and explore my liberalslikeChrist website.

  • @josephineratzinger Many homosexuals argue that they have not chosen their condition, but that they were born that way, making homosexual behavior natural for them.

  • @josephineratzinger But because something was not chosen does not mean it was inborn. Some desires are acquired or strengthened by habituation and conditioning instead of by conscious choice. For example, no one chooses to be an alcoholic, but one can become habituated to alcohol. Just as one can acquire alcoholic desires (by repeatedly becoming intoxicated) without consciously choosing them, so one may acquire homosexual desires (by engaging in homosexual fantasies or behavior)

  • @josephineratzinger .... without consciously choosing them.

  • @josephineratzinger Since sexual desire is subject to a high degree of cognitive conditioning in humans (there is no biological reason why we find certain scents, forms of dress, or forms of underwear sexually stimulating), it would be most unusual if homosexual desires were not subject to a similar degree of cognitive conditioning.

  • @josephineratzinger Even if there is a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality (and studies on this point are inconclusive), the behavior remains unnatural because homosexuality is still not part of the natural design of humanity. It does not make homosexual behavior acceptable; other behaviors are not rendered acceptable simply because there may be a genetic predisposition toward them.

  • @josephineratzinger For example, scientific studies suggest some people are born with a hereditary disposition to alcoholism, but no one would argue someone ought to fulfill these inborn urges by becoming an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not an acceptable "lifestyle" any more than homosexuality is.

  • @MrBuster128 the comparison with alcoholism is stupid. Do not compare oranges and apple. Then, how do you explain the Klinefelter's syndrome? And the Turner's syndrome? And many other conditions where someone is born with male and female genitalia, at the same time! Christianity and all the other stupid religions want to hide these truths. Any biology textbook will explain hermaphroditism and gonadal dysgenesis. In your opinion, someone who is unambiguosuly attracted to people of the same gender

  • @josephineratzinger i agree... the pope is such a douche

  • @josephineratzinger Hunger for flesh is natural, but wrong and homo's, maybe thy love, but their hunger is much stronger, they want something from their relationship not give something, and that's not love, you can't go around and say that homo's exist just because genes, you can't blame the drive for your choices in life, and you can't classify yourself just because that drive, I'm proud to say that I try to muffle my instincts, my drives. It's the only way to se what you can truly be.

  • @EterIronGen you don't make any sense. You're stupid. You shouldn't be proud for being stupid. What do you want to prove. You are attracted to what you're attracted and that's not a choice. End of the story. Case closed. Do some research on klinefelter syndrome, or androgen insensitivity syndrome instead of keeping your head in your ass. You will see that there are different types of sexuality and that's just the way you're born

  • @josephineratzinger

    Please realize that you are talking about rare cases of sick people and sickness is not normal I was talking about normal people in normal circumstance, And furthermore every problem that people with disabilities, diseases or other problems incounter, has been proven beatable with a conscious effort, the only problems that remain (for all people) are the problems that we don't know of, or we make them normal, and I don't want for our children to not know our mistakes.

  • @EterIronGen if it's not normal, it doesn't need to be stigmatized. And give me a fucking break with the children rhetoric. Children learn what they are exposed to. If they are exposed to the English language, they will consider this as their mother tongue. If they are exposed to Spanish, they will consider Spanish their mother tongue. Children MUST know these things because they are natural, they happen, these are variations that cannot be influenced by your free will. Wither you are or not

  • @josephineratzinger For you first post:

    Children can't learn a language if there isn't a language to learn. We are here for them not them for as.

    Every perversion that we normalize we forget that is abnormal (look at woman lib. we don't se the horror that it took on families for decades) we don't see the other implications only in the future and because in normal then it can't be reverted, please be logical and se the world as it is and take in consideration the hole not the minority.

  • @EterIronGen if you are so sure that through conscious effort you can "correct" homosexuality, that means you've been a homosexual who has cured himself .Otherwise, how can you be so certain.

  • @josephineratzinger and for this:

    I never felt drawn to man, and I never will, but in not hard to extrapolate (I can be a homosexual in my mind) this is how I realize that is two types of love (sex intercourse or whatever): the hunger for flesh and the need to (be) hold in arms, bought are natural in their way, we need the hunger for passion for trust, but both can be so easily perverted and/or betrayed, and we need to hold another in arms for love and that is a lot harder to pervert.

  • @josephineratzinger

    People really need to understand that is difference between love and passion or commitment and trust or other words that represent a bond between two souls, I pray that everyone can se that love is love not other things.

  • STUPID QUEERS STOP WILLFULLY CHOOSING TO SIN AND YOU WILL GET BETTER... continue to live for YOU and you WILL die Stop, desist and repent.

    And life everlasting is available. but eh onus is on you,the sinner and no one else. Repent!

  • @raughammer but i can never be pope like jo ratzinger. isn't his latin name 666?

    and, doesn't he do goofy stuff like forgive Hitler, because he was a catholic?

    So, couldn't we live a wicked life like richard kuklinski and the godfather and then have that voodoo stuff done over our dead bodies and go to paradice anyway?

    do you feel that Jesus was speaking to your fathers in matt. chapter 23?

    well, he was!

    read Matt. chapter 23 to find out what Jesus thinks of your organized religions and tax

  • go fuck ur self dick face

    im gay

    but im scared of god and jesus cause ur soul will never die u mother fucker

    ur body wil be eaten by worms but ur souls god will decide where it will go to either hell or heaven.... so we are all here freely to do anything we want BUT we have to understand that god created everything n this earth and his the most powerfull person in this earth so we have to respect him and love him and prayy to him

    u weirdos fucked up people

    pray

  • @wes2222222222 i'm queer too. in matt. chap, 23 we find jesus addressing this issue and we see him say "ye shut up the kingdom of heaven and won't go in yourselves or let others in."

    these preachers are going to hell , says jesus, and they want to take us with them.

    ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    that was Jesus to the roman empire and jews and tax collecting folks in the churches. Just pray and try to live a holy life. pope is going to hell.

  • Heh heh heh - nice one.

    The pope doesn't like me. And that makes me not like him.

    I find it particularly offensive that he's the president of the largest club of sexual abusers in the world, a club that actively seeks to pervert the lawful prosecution of the abusers, and he still has the gall to present himself as an expert on sexual morality. It is a tribute to humanity's stupidity that anyone takes this man or his doctrines seriously.

  • Religions have no business trying to force their rules on the rest of society. Keep your bigotry to yourselves.

  • nazis never liked the gay

  • You can hate religion all you want, that doesn't make you right and religion wrong. God is real, the Bible is his word, and homosexuals will never see heaven.

  • I dont need the marriege in a church to prove someone else that i love him.

    Another thing: Dont call me faggot unless you are here in front of me and we will see who is the faggot you dick head. You seriously think you are so grown up? Haha, you are just a fat guy who has nothing better to do than have an argue with a "kid" like you say. Please get something better to do....fat ass.

    As i sayd before, church can think and say whatever they want. They never sayd God´s will.

    GL and HF hating!Dick

  • First of all, you sent me a dumb ass comment. Thats how this started. Second, if your so tuff, tell me where you live. I really hope its NYC. Second, if you want to know Gods will, read the Bible. You'll see exactly how God feels about homosexuallity. Your a punk. Your a sissy boy. I would destroy you.

  • Yeah... God aint real - no proof whatsoever. So... Grow up and think for yourself! Yeah... :-)

  • God is very real. Theres plenty of proof. People like you don't want to see it.

  • oh really? Whats that then? The bible - a book written 2000 years ago that anybody couldve written? That contradicts itself and is just a load of x-rated fairytales? Yeah so much proof :D Idiot

  • You should try reading it. There are no contradictions in it. I've heard this song before by selfish, self righteous people. Noone has ever been able to show me a Biblical contradiction. You want to attack the Bible because God condems your way of life.

  • No contradictions? So you will agree, joe, that if you've eaten a lobster or a clam then you're going to hell with the gays, since the Bible says both...

    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)

    "But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

    Care to justify that with contradicting yourself?

  • I do not eat seafood. But thats besides the point. God did not destroy any cities for people eating sea food. He did, however destroy Sodom and Gamora for homosexuality. Hardly an inteligent comparison.

  • They are both "abominations".

    See how quickly you're now contradicting yourself?

    You first said "the bible is God's word". And, the Bible says that both clams and homosexuality are "abominations".

    But that's not good enough for jowear... No, in order to accept this glaring contradiction in his own bigoted little mind, he has to redefine the meanings for himself. So now, apparently it's only an "abomination" if a city's been destroyed! It doesn't matter what the bible actually says!

  • Where does it call sea food an abomination. Your just a sad little liar. You are sick and thats all there is to it. Your name says it all.

  • "But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

    "They (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination." (Leviticus 11:11)

    Have you actually read the bible?

    "Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:12)

  • Like I said, you can try to justify your evil lifestyle all you want, but God is not mocked. How dare you call me a bigot. Your a blasphemer. Just another of the devils pawns trying to decieve people. Go back to your closet devil.

  • Joewar420 originally said: "Noone has ever been able to show me a Biblical contradiction"

    I now know why. The answer is because when presented with the bleeding obvious, joewar's response is to say you are "Just another of the devils pawns trying to decieve people. Go back to your closet devil."

    This is the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LA LA LA - I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

    I'd tell joe to go back to his closet, but apparently he's still in it! HAHA

  • Your just stupid, you make no sense. You were right about seafood though. I'll give you that much. And wheres the contradiction? You saying its a contradiction doesn't make it so. You are are servant of satan, trying to justify sin, is that not the work of satan?

  • Where's the contradiction you ask?

    The bible says homosexuality and shellfish are both "abominations". So either both are abominations or neither are. Therefore, along with all the gays, everyone who eats this seafood is going to hell. You must agree with this statement.

    If not, then you must agree that the bible contradicts itself.

    (And before you mention Soddom etc., the bible does NOT say that something is a sin "only if a city has been destroyed because of it". )

  • First of all, that is not a contradiction. Second I'm not gay and I don't eat sea food. And your argument is trying to justify your sin by comparing it to another sin. Does that make sense? If it is than noone should be in prison, no murderers, rapists, drug dealers, because in your eyes its the same as J-walking.

  • And did I comment to you, or did you start this. So who is looking for conflict, the christian or the gay? That makes you evil. You can say you were sticking up for your fellow sissy, whatever. Just keep your gay ways to your self and stop trying to get what you don't deserve.

  • How could you say its ok for a man to have sex with another man, thats the most disgusting thing on earth and people who induldge in such acts should be punished.

  • And men with goatees are the second most disgusting thing on earth and should be punished as well.

    Honestly, what's it to you what 2 men do? Why do you think about it so much if it disgusts you?

    Should everything that disgusts you be punishable??

    Should we be sentenced to death if we like strawberry ice-cream because joewar420 prefers chocolate???

    And you started this by posting your vile comments. I was just asking why christians are the most nasty people. You certainly are.

  • Someone sent me this video, and I made a simple reply that I don't like the Pope, but homosexuality is an abomination. And one of your "brethren" start with this bs. Why don't you read a little further before you get your panties in a bunch? And I don't think about it so much, you fags just keep sending messages.

  • there are animals that eat thier own ofspring, I guess your a canable too, right. It happens in nature so it must be OK, right? Like I said your going to hell, unless you repent your evil gay lifestyle and accept Jesus.

  • So what do you mean by "unnatural" then? Is it good or bad? Please make up your mind.

    I didn't mention the bahaviour of animals in nature, but if you're going to define "natural" like that, then surely NOT eating your offspring is "unnatural" acording to your own definition. I assume you don't eat your kids, joe, so you must be "unnatural" too. See, the word "unnatural" doesn't really mean anything does it?!

  • And I still notice that instead of reasonably addressing ANY of my points, you've resorted to name calling and insults again, thus proving my original claim that, on the whole, christians are the most horrible and uncompassionate people around.

  • I have adressed your claims, but like your religious views you only see what suits your lifestyle. Your just silly. And you are evil. You go against the very substance of life. Go ahead and live your life, just realize what awaits you after, fire and brimstone.

  • ...and I'll bet you can't wait to see me suffer down there, you bloodthirsty little horror. It's easy to see where the *real* evil is here.

    You haven't addressed any of my claims... Simply claiming you have doesn't make it so. For example, when did you decide to stop liking boys dicks? You never did tell us when you "chose" to be straight!

  • Do you really expect me to reply to such a stupid comment? Your sad, really. And believe it or not, I don't hate gay people, I have family that is gay. That doesn't mean I have to believe its ok. I hate the sin, not the sinner.

  • My comment was just as stupid as you saying that gay people "choose" to be gay, or the horror-scenario of 100% of the population "choosing" to be gay! It's completely ridiculous. You don't "choose" your sexuality, as you yourself have demonstrated by your inability to answer my simple question. When did you "choose" to be straight?

  • So you don't hate gay people, but you believe it's fair for your relative to burn in hell for eternity because he is gay.

    Uncaring. Unchristian. Horrible.

  • Yes, of course. We ALL have to stand before God. None are exempt. And you act like I'm sending you to hell, thats your own doing. Your sin, your life, your descision. All are welcome to repent and accept Jesus. So its your choice. you can say what you like but it is what it is. God law, I didn't make it up.

  • I think you think I *deserve* to go to hell. You worship a God who punishes people horribly simply for being the way God made them in the first place!

    Again, you've said being gay is "your decision".

    Either sexual attraction is a choice or it's not.

    If it's NOT a choice, how can you praise god for punishing people who have no choice in the matter?

    If it IS a choice, you'd be able to answer my question: When did you make YOUR choice to be straight, and stop being attracted to boys?

  • Oh, and I guess I'll see all the lobster-eaters in hell too, for they SURELY DESERVE AN ETERNITY OF PAIN for eating the lobster bisque... that sounds fair too! Hahaha

    So as a Christian, joewar seriously believes you deserve eternal punishment if you eat a clam! And you think that's compassionate? Well you must have a different dictionary to me!

    It's so stupid! It doesn't make ANY sense!

    But this is God's law... I didn't make it up!

  • Can you say anything diferent? You keep comparing one sin to another. ALL sin is deserving of hell fire, only through Jesus do we have redemption for our sin. And please stop insulting me by asking " when I stoped liking little boys". Your looking for a fight. And thats just stupid because your in the UK and I'm in the US.

  • I will quit asking you when you stopped liking boys, only when you stop claiming that gay men at some point in their lives stopped liking girls.

    Sexuality is not a choice. If you *disagree*, then please tell me when you made your choice about your own sexuality.

    I doubt that you can, because, as we both know, it was not up to you... it's just the way you "are". Being gay is no different.

  • I told you read up on psycology. It is a proven fact that homosexuality is a learned behavior, whether directly or adversly learned. Heterosexuality is instinctual behavior. Don't believe me, look it up. You cannot fairly compare the two. So if you want to keep this up I will block you.

  • AND, by the way, I never asked when you stopped liking "little" boys.... You put that bit in yourself. Was that a Freudian slip?

    Perhaps you ARE attracted to boys, but just choose to be celibate because your religion tells you to.

    This would explain why you think being gay is a choice, if you yourself are attracted to both men AND women. I'd say you're bi.

    Fair enough, but don't expect the rest of us to feel as guilty as you do about yourself.

  • No I'm happily married to a wonderful woman. I think your just being an asshole. So you go be gay all you want and you will recive your punishment from God.

  • Does the thought of my punishment make you happy, you sicko?

    So anyway, you're admitting that sexuality is not a choice, since you can't answer my question.

    I see no evidence to support your "proven fact"... please provide it or I'll assume it's just made up.

    And you've started with the name-calling again. It just goes to show (once again) how horrible and nasty you self-righteous christians really are deep down in your (cold) hearts.

  • So you know your headed for hell. And you don't care? I told you look into psycology. I can't post the whole book on here.

    Human Behavior in Today's World

    by Waris Ishaq.

    Alternatives to Cognition: A New Look at Explaining Human Social Behavior

    by Christina Lee.

    Start with these.

  • I don't believe I'm headed for hell... like I said, God made me in such a way that I'm unable to believe the fairytales which you've bought into. Maybe your childhood indoctrination centre was more successful than my sunday school.

    I can no more make myself believe in Christianity than you can make yourself believe in Zeus.

    What concerns me is the thought that christians think that an enternity in hellfire is a fitting punishment for eating a clam ;-) You're all mad!

    What disturbs me

  • All sin, a lie, a curse, a wicked thought, all punishable by hellfire. And eating foods that God deemed unclean is a sin. And frankly I don't care how you feel or what concerns you. If you were drowning would I try to help you? Yes. Would I want you around my kids? No.

  • I still see no evidence, and frankly I'm surprised you referred me to a female's book, since it says in YOUR little book of quotes "Let a woman learn in peace, fully submitted; but I do not permit a woman to teach a man or exercise authority over him; rather, she is to remain at peace." Tim 2:11

    So I'm afraid poor Christina is a sinner, and going to hell too. And you too, joe, for letting her teach you... oops! See you in hell as well!

    (hey, I didn't make the rules, it's what your book says!)

  • Maybe you should read it again, and try reading a little more than one verse. Paul is saying that woman are not to teacj scripture. Again just another foolish, uneducated comment made by you. Stop your self righteous nonsense. All you "theories" make you blameless, when you are a perversion of Gods creation.

  • There you go again re-interpreting the Bible to suit your own opinions! The passage from Timothy includes BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO teaching in the church.

    Furthermore Sirach 19:2-4 tells us that "women make the mind giddy. He who trusts in them has no sense"

    Have you actually read the bible, because you don't seem to know what it says, joe!?

    I would also refer you to Tim. 3:1-7, Proverbs 2:16-19, Titus 2:1-5, Sirach 3:2 and 1 Cor. 11:7-10 for further evidence of the evils of women.

  • Also, you say I'm self-righteous?! Well, the word actually means "confident of one's own righteousness, esp. when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others."

    Now joe, we know YOU'RE "confident of your own righteousness". We Know YOU'RE "smugly moralistic", and we DEFINITIELY KNOW you're "intolerant of the opinions and behaviours of others" (just look at your previous posts!).

    So it's clear, joewar, that you are the TEXTBOOK DEFINITION of "self-righteous".!!!

  • Furthermore, you say "All you "theories" make you blameless, when you are a perversion of Gods creation. ".

    Yes, and all *your* "theories" make everything that you personally find distasteful a "perversion"!

    Except, of course, when you don't agree with some parts of the Bible, and have to re-interpret it to suit yourself. The sheer hypocrisy of Christians is amazing!

  • Your an idiot, really, You don't know what your talking about. I'm really getting tired of your nonsense. Everything you say is just a twisted persons point of view. So stop your nonsense. the scriptures are clear on the points I mentioned, they need no interpitation. So like a loser, you make up nonsense. If you ever come to NYC let me know.

  • What bit is nonsense? You haven't really rebutted any of my claims, and have again resorted to insulting the messenger rather than dealing in any way with what I've been saying.

    So stick your fingers back in your ears, joe, and keep clinging to your medieval fairytales if they help you deal with life. Whatever works for you, I suppose. Ignorance is bliss, they say.

    And why would you like to know if I ever come to NYC? To show me some "Christian" hopsitality, I'll bet ;-)

  • Your the one whose twisting everything I say into so bs. Your "claims" are just a load of bs. You are good at twisting peoples words, just like the devil. So either stop this, or come to nyc and we can settle this face to face.

  • I'm not twisting anything. All I originally asked was "why are Christians so horrible", and so far you have...

    1) Been insulting ("You Faggot", "Sissy boy", "You're sick", "You're stupid/foolish/uneducated", "an abomination", "Burn in hell", "You're a loser", "Piss off", "You're a devil/evil", "your'e silly", etc)

    2) Told me you agree that women are not to be trusted, like it says in the Bible.

    3) Told me you think your relatives deserve to burn in hell.

    4) Threatened violence against me.

  • Againg your twisting things. I never threatened you with violence. You started with the insults " when did you stop likeing boys". I never said woman aren't to be trusted. So GET REAL. Your just a fony who is looking to make people mad so you can point a finger and say thier bad. Get lost.

  • 1) "When did you stop liking boys" was the ovious question to ask someone who claims they "choose" their sexuality. Presumably you "chose" to not like boys, and go after girls instead, if you chose to be heterosexual, as you claim.

    2) If you did not threaten violence, then please explain what you meant by the phrase "we can settle this face to face."?

    I am not twisting anything. Please tell me what I have twisted?

  • Then by asking your stupid question, you are implying that I once liked boys. Again twisting things. Now I'm threatinig you. I'm tired of your BULLSHIT. I will find you, I have friends all over the UK.

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  • 3) You did agree that women aren't to be trusted...

    You said the Bible is God's word and "does not need reinterpreting", and as a Christian you are bound to follow God's word.

    The Bible also says quite clearly "women make the mind giddy. He who trusts in them has no sense".

    Therefore you must believe that men who trust women have no sense... unless, of course, you DO want to re-interpret what it says!

  • Women are unlogical and can easily leed a man to sin. Thats what scripture is saying. Your just using it as an excuse to be gay. Keep up this BS and I will find you. I may be christian, but that don't make me a punk. You keep flappin your gums about nonsense.

  • So you agree women are not to be trusted, huh? Interesting.

    Also, you're just using the scripture as an excuse to pay out on things you personally find distasteful, otherwise why aren't you as vocal about all the seafood-eaters as you are about homosexuals?

    You christians are *so* unlike your Christ!

  • Also every quote you make is take out of context. You use a small part of a bibvlical verse and don't bother to read the whole lesson. Smae with my comments, you don't even quote me correctly, just the parts you can twist up. I and I never "chose" my sexuality, I made it quite clear that homosexuality is a choice and hetrosexuality is an instinct. But you want to twist that statement too.

  • So you could choose to be homosexual if you wanted to, you just don't want to right now? Is that what you're saying?

  • Homosexuality is not a choice and your saying it is doesn't change that you're wrong.

  • So I think based on all of that, you've definitely demonstrated that Christians truly are horrible people, if you're an example of a christian.

    Thanks joewar for making it clear to anyone reading this how horrible Christians really are!

  • You want christians to look like horrible people so you can feel good about your evil ways. You are truly delusional. Whatever your smoking, you should stop before you go braindead.

  • So the man who was a naughty potty mouth, thinks women are second-class humans, thinks their relatives deserve to burn in hell, and threatens violence to enforce his own opinions has the hide to call ME "evil"!

    Haha - get a dictionary, buddy, and look up the word "hypocrite"!

  • Like I said, your full of bs. You just twist everything around to suit your purpose. Look at your whole argument. You compare homosexuality with eating sea food. Thats the stupidest comparison ever. So are you coming to nyc?

  • I compare homosexuality and eating seafood because they Bible says they are EXACTLY as sinful as each other... no more no less.

    You're right, it IS stupid, but that's because the bible is stupid! That was rather my point!

    Now YOU can twist facts in your mind as much as you like to make homosexuality come out worse than eating seafood, but the untwised FACT is that the bible says they are both sins.

  • No in the orginal Aramaic homosexuality is not a sin, jesus at no peoint in the bible mentions homosexuality, Homosexuality is not mentioned in the ten commandments. There are many people who break some opf the rules in the ten commandments yet it's homosexuals you choose to ostracize funny that, Sounds like you're just using the bible as an excuse to propogate hate crimes.

  • The Bible calls homosexuality an abomination, in the original hebrew text. Sodom and Gahmora were destroyed by God for the peoples homosexual acts. I don't support crimes against gays, but I don't believe that its ok to be gay. And I didn't mean that you choose to be gay, rather you learn to be gay.

  • You are actually quite wrong the term used to describe homsexual is actually the term for prostitute. Soddom and Gahmorrah were destryed for raping the angels not for being gay. However you are hatefilled person and will believe whatever version you like. You are only proving that you are only capable of you own biased stupidity. And you are quite wrong about homosexuals not being born that way if it was learned than everyone who isn't a follower of the Abrahamic religions would be gay.

  • The angels were sent to warn Lot to leave and to destroy Sodom and Gomorah. People can't rape Angels. Angels are far more powerful than men. Two angels destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorah. If they were powerful enough to obliterate the cities, what makes you think men can rape them. Now I see how dumb you are. And ALL BEHAVIOR IS LEARNED. Pick up a book and read. Stop going to homo websites for your info.

  • You are completely incorrect, just wondering when did you learn to breath, or control your heart rate, or your metabolism? When did you learn how to eat or digest food. I could go on all day moron.

  • How can you compare breathing or heart function, wich are INVOLENTARY body functions, with being gay, wich is a behavior. Your just stupid. What are you like 14?

  • I'm like infinitely more intelligent than you as all bodily funtions could be construed as behaviour. The sexual impulse is not learned it is more like a bodily function, but you can't come to terms with that can you.

  • There are so many gramatical errors in that sentance that you proved yourself to be a moron. Bodily functions are not considered behavior. Sexual orientation and sexual impulse are two diferent things. Sexual orientation is a learned behavior. Sexual impulse is an instinct, it is the instinct to reproduce. Being gay is a perversion of this instinct, hence it is a behavior.

  • You would like me to use proper grammar. Whatever it's youtube not a fucking essay.

  • Because christians like joewar420, who keep spreading hateful lies, gay people continue to face prejudice and persecution.

    Christians are very wicked and hateful ppl. Period.

  • joewar420, Many of my friends who were born to christian homes do not believe the bible poison. The Youtube saved them! There r so many vid clips proving Christianity is a LIE. Why don't u go fighting these people who "make the little ones fall" but so abnormally obsessed with homosexuality? You must be a closeted homosexual yourself.

  • Eternity with shit like joewar420 would be hell.

  • He will not be condemned to eternal punishment if he sees to it that a good confession is made between himself and a good priest and therefore repented his sins.

    Never speak badly of Homosexual men or Lesbian women, but do not condone of thier Sodom and Gomorrah-like lifestyle either. Pray for them. Always.

  • I agree that they can repent, but not like you say, to a priest. The catholic religion is the most evil entity on the planet. As for your coment about not speaking badly, would you tell Elijah that he was wrong when he battled the prophets of Baal? Or Jesus when he flipped over the tables of the tax collectors? Or any one of the prophets of the Bible who battled against followers of false Gods? The Bible tells us to be angry at these things.

  • Those things are quite different from the issue of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Lot did his best to help save the citizens, and so he did with a few, but with many more facing destruction for thier sins by the Wrath of God.

    Of course the Lord understands outrage over these things. That's why we put constructive criticism in order, speaking very sternly when needed.

    Those things from Elijah to Christ, we are in agreement on.

  • Are they different? God destroyed Sodom and Gammorah for homosexuality. Lot did not attempt to save anyone, he did exactly as the angels told him. He took his family and fled. Nevermind constructive criticism. I knew a guy, who died from aids, he got ais from gay sex. When he was a teen he was curious, he asked a guidence councelor about it. He was told its ok to be gay. If he had been told it was not, he would be alive.

  • @TaeKwonDohBoy he was vexed with the filthy conversation of them.

    conversation meaning, lifestyle of curruption like USA.

    i mention that as in heaven God won't allow anything that offends, and the catholic church offends him...

    not the things that offend you guys

    like the 7 dirty words and stuff like that

    as if the my lai massacre and operation phoenix and masonic rituals don't offend Jesus.

    we can only conclude they don't even believe in God at CIA vatican and are bullshitting folks

  • @joewar420 i do, but it is hard. i don't ever want to be with women after being didled so many times.

    so i must be a eunuch and that is so lonely.

    i couldn't just play it off and diddle kids, they diddled me as a kid and now i'm gay and i wouldn't wish that on anyone

    i felt too dirty to ever be with women

    and cut myself and was sore afraid

  • @TaeKwonDohBoy so what's the problem? i remember when that priest got busted diddling a kid right in vatican city and he said he was trying to show the boy what to watch out for....grinning from ear to ear on national usa Tv it speaks for itself to anyone just with their eyes open matt 23, sir. oh feely my bony bottom says sister mary elephant and thank you! cheech and chong greatest hits altered boy i was after i got diddled lolz now i'm a transsexual you'll all burn in hell