See those big ass launcher tubes? This ship carries 18 missiles with 1000kg warheads or nuclear tipped if necessary. Let's take US anti-ship missiles for comparison - they're smaller alright, but carry ca. 200-500kg warheads.
For what US Navy is needing that might be enough - Russia has those things to go up against carrier groups with super carriers which demands heavy payloads and thus bigger carrier missile.
@181jose Oh dear, taking my comment seriously? I was simply making a joke relating to the stereotypical view that all Russians are alcoholics. Get a sense of humour, then get a fucking life you retarded muppet.
Как же утомили безумные комментарии заокеанских долбоебов. Такое впечатление что они свои мозги давно похоронили под толстым слоем кетчупа в макдональдсе.
Что касается Крейсера Украина ему уже давно крышка чтобы его отремонтировать нужна почти та же сумма денег что и построить новый корпус! А в общем корабль тяжело назвать устаревшим самое главное какое вооружение на нем стоит!
Был я на Москве и на Украине ранее назывались они Слава и Лобов проекта
1164 по бокам крылатые ракеты П-500 базальт и П-1000 вулкан дальность стрельбы 550 км ! Строились на заводе им 61 коммунара в городе Николаеве приходилось на них даже работать в то время на заводе я практику проходил!
If this thing can sink american warships and stop f-35 JSF aeroplanes, then Israel is in deep doo doo. When the american Navy is at ocean bottom, american 'Marines' are helpless overseas. US Air Force, same deal. All that is left is ICBMs. Let's see: New York, Miami, Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Ft. Myers. Am I forgetting anyone?
Russian navy's biggest problem is that when away from friendly coasts, they have little to no air cover leaving them open to air attack. They have AA capability, of course, but the aircraft would never need to come into range and every one knows that missile vs. missile defense, the missile always wins eventually - after all, only one needs to get through!
16 пусковых установок, способных выплёвывать ракеты с ядерным боезарядом малого радиуса действия. 1 этот корабль может превратить в пустыню калифорнию.
If this thing can sink american warships and stop f-35 JSF aeroplanes, then Israel is in deep doo doo. When the american Navy is at ocean bottom, american 'Marines' are helpless overseas. US Air Force, same deal. All that is left is ICBMs. Let's see: New York, Miami, Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Ft. Myers. Am I forgetting anyone?
Este buque, en agrupación con los Kara, los Mokva, los Sovremenny, comandados por los Kirov, fueron la principal amenaza de la OTAN durante la guerra fría...poco puede hacer una agrupación de portaaviones estadonudenses frente un ataque en pleno de este grupo naval y los misisles antibuque lanzados desde aire.
Красивый корабль, кстати, даже в США признают что наши корабли выглядят лучше: более стремительно и грозно - не то что западные "коробки" (правда увлечение "стелс" технологиями может ухудшить знаменитый "грозный" вид российских кораблей но пр.20380 выглядит весьма круто) "Атланты" вообще не зря звались "звериным оскалом социализма" (погуглите "Наши корабли были лучше")
@AloneRW тут дело не в "грозности", на наших кораблях банально больше вооружения всех видов, т.к. конструкторы думали не о попиле бюджета, как в США (и в сенате и в конгрессе сидят официальные "лобби" ВПК, пилящие миллиардные заказы оборонки), а о соответствии ТТХ корабля указанным в ТЗ. О чем думают отечественные конструкторы сейчас мне сложно судить, но, судя по открытым источникам, пока общее суммарное вооружение наших кораблей все еще лучше зарубежных аналогов того же тоннажа.
Насколько я помню, концепция применения советского ВМФ была в максимальном залпе в единицу времени (т.к на второй могло не быть времени). Т.е конструктора и старались сделать вооружение максимальным.У МРК проекта 1234 вообще на вооружение приходилось до 30% водоизмещения - мировой рекорд!! Отсюда и переизбыток вооружения, кроме того кораблей у нас было меньше чем у США и потому они и были перенасыщены оружием.
the Russians play defense fairly well when there backs are right up against the wall...(Moscow in 1944 as example) but otherwise, they seem to royally suck at conventional warfare...of course being real good at WAR is not neccessarily something to be proud of...And America, and some of the other NATO countries are very good at WAR...
@pbgw123456 Russia was battle proven since the beginning, so it's kinda unfair to say that it's not..plus I don't rly think that fightting against rebels with rusty ak47s in Iraq is a battle...with all that technologies states has
@ch0c0lateroollZzz Russia lost in Afghanistan big time. They also have not fought with their high tech weapons. So yoe, Russia proved some stuff in WW2 but I am talking about now. Russia is not battle proven.
@pbgw123456 big time? oh uh the same way states are losing there, also if u don't know soviet army left that place not because they got their asses kicked, but because of political things..and after afghan was chechnya and georgia, soldiers of which was trained by the states lol..it took only 5 days, and that's mean only one thing we always was and will be battle proven cuz countries that can't fight for their interests becoming oil banks )))
@ch0c0lateroollZzz Chechnya and Georgia?? Are you serious? They have no military of any size and they do not have true nationalist fighting them. Russia is no where near as strong or battle proven as the USA.
@pbgw123456 proves u don't know shit about both. georgia has ur nato equip and chechens fought for their land , but back to ur commens afghan and airaq rebels don't have a shit ..really don't..at all.. how easy is that to understand dummy. go play ur e-expert wars somewhere else and don't spam here
@ch0c0lateroollZzz You have proved that you don't know shit. First off Georgia is not a member of NATO. Georgia is a NATO IPAP. US did help train them but the size of their military is no where near as big as Russia. In Georgia there were not insurgents like in Afghanistan, so to compare these to conflict just show me that you no nothing!! Geogia fought Russia by the rules of the giniva convention while insurgents in Afghan and Iraq hide in civilian clothes. YOU ARE A DUMB FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@pbgw123456 lol wtf.. another kid debates ? use caps more son hahah chechen rebels was hiding too, and it doesn't justify ur fault in ir/afg cuz u pretend to be astrongest armmy in the world n shi with all of ur tech n trainings but u just suck it up when some fasg with a gasoline burns the shit out of abrams. nato attacks only poor countries and acts like they r heroes, but face reality even there u r goeing charlie foxtrot
@ch0c0lateroollZzz You are the only kid in this debate you fucking retard!! NATO takes it easy on these countrys that don't have a massive military. USA is the strongest army in the world!!!
@pbgw123456 btw "some stuff" in ww2 means more than 20 millions of lifes and the end of the third reich with a freedom that those peoples bring to the half of a Europe...
well european goes for low number but high quality beacuse they have few men , easter part goes for higher numbers and lower quality beacuse they have a lot of men ( not very good crew , but in large quantity) ad have cheaper armament quality ,bacause in case of real war their number can quickly increase , while the high quality one cant'do do the same ( taks history in ww2 tells us that).
americans have a wide choice good armaments , good crews and large numbers , but expensive in long war.
Soviet Block countries have been building large modern armies and Navies since the late 1800's .. when they have lagged in a technology vs the west, they have made up for it with large numbers of good tanks or ships(NATO tends to build small numbers of super tanks and ships rather than "good" tanks and ships) Soviet block countries have good equipment. but. they lack quality training and experience. hence events like the KURSK and numerous other NAVAL "accidents" ...
@acerr40 They built modern navies from the mid 1800's. They just got repeatedly sunk without having any effect on their opponents other than as target practice.
@tommiatkins yeah...the Russians have always built decent and sometimes excellent equipment..but the ability to use it..particularly in an offensive manner..has always come up a bit short agains "western" forces, and certain "westernized" eastern forces (namely Japan)
Well...the Russians had supersonic anitShip missles back in the late 70's and early 80's so these techs arent new..The Russians buillt some very creative anit ship missles during the cold war and NATO developed counters that would stop them if everything works as designed...to answer your question..yes, think the USN can defend its ships against these weapons..well enough not to get swept from the oceans in a all out gun fight with Russia or China...but defense isnt the key, intel and offense is
I could tell some really funny stories about the Cold War Era Soviet Navy...they built some wonder naval vessels...but the people who operated them...not sure where they learned to run a NAVY...take a look at Russian Naval History in general...They dont have a history of winning at sea...hell...Little old Japan spanked Russia's azz in Russo-Japanese War of 1904...Britian, France and Germany all took their turns spanking the Russian Bear at sea., and on land sometimes....
@acerr40 hey do you think the US navy can defense its ships from these supersonic cruise that russia has developed. the brahmos and the ss-n-27 sizzler?
I served in the USN during the last 6 years of the COLD WAR...I had the oppurtunity to see the "RUSSIAN" navy up close and personal...the Russians built some very solid and capable warships...but they didnt train their crews worth a damn...If u take a look at the coldwar era Soviet ships u may notice they all have lots of redundant radar and tracking systems...anybody here know why that was ?? because 1, their electronics tended to break down ALOT...but even worse the crws werent trained 2 fix..
@Suyamu Sure, of course they did wise azz... I worked in rating where I had access to intel analysis from U.S. and other NATO intelligence services regarding Soviet Naval vessels and Naval operations...And by the way...you could've figure this kind of thing out for youself by following Soviet vessels around in let's say..an intelligence gathering vessel disquised as a fishing trawler taking video and photo's and monitoring radar and radio transmissions from said ships...both sides did this....
@Suyamu where did u learn math...Im 42 now...I was 22 when the 1st Gulf War ended..in 1991...that was for all intents and purposes, the end of the Cold War...although the Soviet Union didnt "publicly" collapse until about a year later...I completed my last year of service in the USN in 1993 at the age of 24...I enlisted in the US Navy in 1987....does the math add up now...???
impressive looking ship, however the missile tubes i think were just for show lol, or if you can't afford or find the technology for a vertical launching system, which could hold more missiles and fire them at a faster rate than the tubes.
@Ctasker5 Russia was using VLS prior to US NAVY boss....KIROV had VLS when she was built...TICONDEROGA class cruisers didnt have VLS till the 3rd ship of the class...
@Ctasker5 U.S. cruisers and Soviet/Russian Cruisers served two differnt purposes. The Ticonderogas are used for air defense, look at the slava for instance her main purpose is anti ship. The Russian Surface Fleet was was smaller and inferior to that of the U.S. so they put more stock into anti ship missiles to bridge the gap.
Hurray!!!! Russia has agreed to recapitalize Nikolayev shipyard, and finish the 4th Slava unit, the "Ukraina" which will then be transfered to Russian Navy, probably the Black Sea Fleet.
On another note, Admiral Nakimov is almost complete its overhaul! Go Russia!!!!
BTW, Slava class and Kirov class are very impressive ships!!
Russia has an interesting and effective approach to countering US carrier battle groups. Not by building a lot of carriers but by building Kirov class battle cruisers and Slava class cruisers to overwhelm the carriers defenses. The AGIS class cruiser was designed to counter this threat.
I am an American and I would much rather fight a sea battle with China than Russia. Russian technology and crew skill is vastly SUPERIOR to the Chinese.
@1138thz there will be no battle with Chinese or Russia. Fighting anyone with nuke is just asking for trouble. Nukes can be used as an offense but also as a defensive. Knowing the Russians and Chinese, they would probably destroy the entire world than to have American armies on their turf every day telling them how to live their lives lol.
Who says the USA is a warlike country and would want to mess with Russia or China? Of course there can be no wars between nuclear powers, its called MAD (mutually assured destruction). My comment was obviously hypothetical and meant only to highlight the fact that at this time the Chinese incompetent at sea compared to the USA and Russia. The USA and Russia have been playing tag for a long...long time.
But the sophistication is no where near Russian.I just need to watch Chinese military parade and compare it to Russian,big difference.Maybe what weapons Russia now has,China might get in 20-30 years.Once China gets it's own space program,gps,complete mobile military and defense than we can talk.I just don't like this China better than Russia or vice versa talk.Both countries have good relations and Russia is still biggest weapons supplier to China.People tend to forget facts.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Actually, Chinese designs are quite advanced, the only thing China are still behind of Russia is in the field of engine technology, this takes time. Russia and China are good neigbors today, selling weapons to China during the 1990s didnt just earned Russia alot of needed hard cash, but are proberbly a even more confidence and relation building act which will benifit both countries security for decades to come.
Chinese military during 90's was nothing!Russia wastly co-operated with China after Putin came to power.China doesn't have anything more advance than Russia has,stop kidding your self.By claiming otherwise shows your lack of knowledge in Russian arms manufacturing.Let me just name few weapons currently in use:Borei,Typhoon,Akula III submarines,S-400/500,Tor-M2,Buk-M2,Panzir-S1AA defense,T-90M,Object 199 Ramka,Black Eagle tanks,Su-35,Mig-35,T-50,Su-34,Mi-28,Ka50/52,it's endless list.
Let me continue so there aren't doubts on your end:Iskander-M,Topol-M,Yars,Satan,nuclear and Bulava,Sineva(submarine missiles),Shkval torpedo,Saphire,Bhramos,Moskit,Sunburn(naval missiles)Club missile systems,improved Smerch,Kastan-M ship defense,even your rifle comes from Russian one.China can't be in forefront because they don't have history in weapon manufacturing and will always,always depend on tech of others to improve.I like both nations same but some things must be clear!
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Oh, pls, true but this is not the 90s anymore, except for some special engines, there is nothing the Russians got now that China cant produce by themself, I repeat, nothing, not anymore, everything from SAM, MBT, fighter, ships, and yeah, rifles too, Type 99B MBT, HQ9A, Type721 CIWS, SeaRAM, new shipborn APAR radar in Aeigis fashion, Type 096 SSBN, 052c DDG, J10B, J20, C601, WZ10a Attack chopper, DF21A, DF31A, standard army rifle are Type 97, nothing to do with the Russians.
I wasn't saying what China can't produce!I was saying what China doesn't have!You can name me all you want but everything there is 2 generations below what Russia now possess.Everything China has it's designed or inspired what Russia has but only name is changed.I have been around weapons from both nations.Does China have Bastion missile system,S-300 for ships,Ocka/Scarab missile.I know you respect your country so do I but your nation is behind in sensitive tech.Believe what you will
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The HHQ9a are installed on 052C DDG, similer to the naval S300 but use different radar and fire control. The scarab, CN's DF-serie missiles go from 300km(DF11) range and up. But I will admit RU still got alot of nice hardwares, I fully respect the country, CN learn alot from RU, but I do not believe what RU got now are generation ahead of CN in anyway, not anymore, whether people want to admit it or not, in some field CN are even leading ahead of RU nowdays with more $ funded.
Have you seen that Russian radar with two grills on each side?Usually is on the top of the newest ships they have.That's now top for ship radars.T-50 is top fighter now.Borei,Typhoon,Antil and AkulaIII are latest submarines.Shkval torpedo that China has is 200km slower than of Russia.Like I wrote here before-I don't need to look further than military parades of both nations to compare the sophistication.What I don't like is China copying Russian weapons and selling 'em abroad.BRICK=1
@BoxyTheSpaceDog You are talking about the Fregat-MA radar equipt on Udaloy and Sovremenny? China use a similer Type 382(Improved version of Type 381which was installed on 051B Luhai class DDG) radar on its latest 054a class FFG, the PLAN 052C DDG uses a advanced 4 direction APAR similer to the USN SPY1D installed on the Burke class DDG, RU doesnt have such radar system in their inventory yet. The Borei class might still be a gen or a half gen ahead of the CN 095 SSN.T50 are same gen as the J20
@BoxyTheSpaceDog China did copied several systems from Russia, like the SU27, BMP1, but none of those were exported, thats merely propaganda. And many so called copied systems are merely inspired by the Russian system like the HQ9's launch method or plain licensed copies, like the AK760, and some subsystems, payed for. Which system do you refer to as have been copied and exported? I see NONE. Unless you are talking about old AK47 and Mig21s which were actually given blueprint, not copied.
To end this.I like both nations alike(I am Serbian by the way).I like them working together.I also want best for BRICK alliance but I got to tell you this if I was to chose between China or Russia in a war(without nuclear weapons)I would chose Russia over anybody any day!Sure China has money and productive power but Russia isn't just sitting on it's ass!Read RIA Novosti site,there you'll find about new weapons being developed every day.Once China goes to war,wins it, we can compare.
@kiki0391 Haha, says a croat, funny! You wanted to call someone from a 3rd world country you prick! Dont insult my nation! You thought no one would check your channel?! If there wasnt for Serbs you Croats would still be an Austro-Hungarian stableboys...Pathetic!
@BoxyTheSpaceDog lol yeah we've seen that in the last war u fought u dumb serbian shit,we seen who took it long and deep out of 52 wars u fought u lost 50,now shutup u have no right to open your mouth again
I don't know neither do I care but article came out in Serbian newspapers published online.If I wrote wrong they did too.Not my fault.Anyways I don't care about Chinese wannabe superpower military.They lag in everything behind Russia and that's undisputable fact.I won't continue any further,need any reference go back last few pages all my comments are there.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The Chinese probably do know how to tell one number from another. They usually don't make excuses when they're wrong. I don't know, neither do I care what your thoughts are on the Russian Navy. I didn't ask about that, I said your numbers are wrong asshole.
I know it's around 91 billion or so.So what?Why getting so touchy over my mistake that was honest one.I even deleted my comment because it was faulty which means I respected yours in return.And for all that you call me asshole,why?I haven't told anything bad to you moreover I respected your comment as right one,mine as false.My actual thought's weren't on Russian Navy but on differences between Russian and Chinese military's which is huge in Russian favor.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Actually the man is right, officially 91.5 billion dollars, China's defense budget is closer to 160 billion dollars according to the Pentagon. Against these sources, your Serbian newspapers are not credible. They don't evolve.
Who cares?Just read my discussion wit user "havocrein",all I want to replay to you is there.Just so I wouldn't replay myself all the time.He's also in World of doubt as you are so get educated,cheers!
@BoxyTheSpaceDog lol this is hilarious,stolen land?haha u tried to steal our land but u didnt go much further then Vukovar that is the border line between serbia and Croatia,that proves your power,now shutup
@BoxyTheSpaceDog And I can continuie the list, DH-10 LACM, WS2(3 times the range of smerch and with better accuracy), KJ-2000 AWACS which uses APAR(Technically its even more advance than USAF E3, let alone the Russian A50), China have hade 1000s of years experience of making weapons, and its a quick learner, it only lagged behind because of wars and later the culture revolution which stopped everything for more than a decade, I like both nations same too, but yeah some things must be clear also.
Only one weapon now comes to my mind that China will never have-Hrizenthema(Tank Killer).Than we have Refleks,Bastion tank missiles,Kornet-M Atgm,Cactus tank armor,Relikt tank armor,BTR 3,Rifles Ak-100,An 94Abakan,your Awacs is also Russian,lol.Your transport planes are Russian/Ukrainian.You don't have supersonic bomber like T-160,you don't have mobile nuclear forces or defense for it,where's S-400?Where's Iskander-M?Don't jump too high,OK?Win a war or two and than we'll talk,bye.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The DF31a Are mobile ICBM. And you mean Khrizantema? The HJ10 should do the same job. The composite and reactive tank armour on T99a are very advanced as well as fully modular designed. The KJ2000 AWACS only use Russian Il76 plane to carry the system, same system will be installed on domestic C919 airplane later, the radar system are what counts. No supersonic bomber yes, but the improved H6 with a much more powerful engine(Russian) are actually fully capable of supersonic speed
@BoxyTheSpaceDog And arguably, such bombers roll are been replaced by multi-roll fighters such as the Su30, F15C/D, J10A etc. S-400 are quite a unique system, i give you that, its a short range antiBM system, but then again China have successfully tested a anti satelit missile recently, the capability are the same as medium range anti balisticmissile missile, not even the US have showed the same kind of capability yet with thier missile shield program. Russia is good, but CN have catched up.
@OnlyLifeMatters actually, it makes perfect sense why China have higher Defence Budget recently, it is because to replace much of the military hardware which the Russians already had. China is economically strong because they have opened their doors to trade with the Western World and vice versa. USA imports close to 80% of their household products from China, and also all over the world uses things made in China. If China is left alone without global exposure, they are weaker than Russia, alot.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog china does not need to make cheap weapons like Russia. China has proven antisatellite missiles. Russia does not. and u say it cant make something like S-400? lol. I say u stop jumping now ur buying mistral from france lol. The PAK FA is not even stealth. Just a sukhoi 27 in a different upper body.
Where is than theirs S-400?Why not make mobile radar to1800km range and 1200km in height that Russia just rolled out?I am not Russian,France is in total shit over debt and economy and had to sell Mistral to somebody and Russia needs only a ship but tech be Russian on-board!Stealth doesn't mean not seen!It's not any sci-fi tech and as such mentioned is something Russia researched in 60's.Why not check out 7 billion $ deal between Chins and Russia,who needs who more?
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Cuz not every country decides to use SAMS for airdefence. SAMS are very vulnerable and that has been proven in war. China like the U.S decided to build sophisticated large fleet of aircrafts for air defence. And China has gone very far and in some areas excelled more than russia in this field. Russia chose to build SAMS because its territory is too large and it does not have the ability to produce alot of aircraft for total territorial airspace defence.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog I do think the Russian military is of a much higher quality than China, & could probably resist a Chinese invasion, but the Russian military is, for the most part, defensive in nature. It wouldn't stand any real chance of invading China or seizing any of it's foreign assets. I would have to say China has a more viable chance of invading Russia than vice versa. Only due to their superior numbers & viable logistics support.
You don't know anything I must tell you,nothing at all.Russia and China just signed 7 billion $ deal after Putin's visit and China needs Russian resources,nuclear,military,space tech and knowledge!Both Russia and China have national growth of some 7-9% per year!Russia can invade and take China any time it pleases!Kazakhstan just signed security treaty with Russia and allowed nuclear and space tests!Chinese tech is 20-30- years behind,make no mistake!Compare it and you'll see.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Well let's calm down. No one could occupy either country. They are too large. The Russian military is defensive in nature (many heavy SAM's, diesel subs, guided missile boats/corvettes, many interceptors) & isn't meant for sustained operations outside of it's borders. Neither is China & they both have solid economies, but Russia's certainly isn't as powerful as China's. Especially since most of Russia's military & industry is in the west.
@BoxyTheSpaceDog After reading through some of your comments, I can tell you are a big Russian advocate. Which is fine. But the S-300, the 55Zh6ME mobile radar system, Iskander, & a lot of large scale systems are not war winners. Especially when fighting an enemy that majorly outnumbers you in an engagement area far away from Russia's own industrial base. The meat & potatoes of warfare are aircraft & in this scenario large land formations (but usually naval forces).
chinese have all military tech based on russian. they just copy and a little bit modernize, but russia develop new techs. chinese wanted to buy such beatiful torpedo as shkval. all world wanted it, but as they and americunts bought it, russia had allready new one. btw shkval was built 1977. do u really think we dont have something new?oO
@Russia2010 For the most part, that is true. I wouldn't go as far as saying "Americunts" but that's another story.
The Chinese do in fact operate equipment that is to a smaller standard as Russia's, but you cannot argue with China's massive numbers. I think China has over 1 million more men than Russia does in it's armed forces. And without conscripts.
Russia is for the most part more advances, but quantity has a quality of it's own.
That is what the Russians ADMIT. Know that 3/4 of their Navy lurks beneath the waves and they aren't talking about any of it. Their carrier fleet is decades behind ours but their missile boats could be a problem. I only hope that Obatty doesn't blow it with Russia again, the way he did in India.
These and the Kirovs would definatly get the attention of naval warfare planners should one decide to take on the Russian Navy, hopefully not so much that the still very formidable submarine force is able to sneek up on you and get you while yer not looking....lol...cool video.
Defenitly one of the finest Warships of the Late 1900's Conbining both Gunnery and Guided Missles for a Powerfull Balance of Weaponary (there 16 "Granit" [also called "Shipwreck" by "NATO"] could sink any Western Warship)
Em, no. P-700 Granit missiles are using in Kirov class battleships. "Petr Velikiy" for example. For 'Slava" class - P-500 Bazalt or newer P-1000 Vulkan.
@ripwolfram My Mistake, (assuming that the "Slava's" carried the same Missles as the "Kirov" Class, ) Although i must point out that (since ive studied the History of Battleships /Battlecruisers /Pocket Battleships for the past seven Years,) that the Defenition (Based on Size /Beam & Peformance/ Armarment) of the Kirov Class is that of a Battlecruiser rarther than a Battleship (the Last True example of the Former in Russian Service being the Gangut Class { apart from "Sovetsky Soyuz" Class).
@michaelfergusonuk this also depend on nation too in my country the Kalinin renamed Konigsberg is calssified as battleship due defetion but actualty it a battlesruser
на видео флагман ЧФ "Москва" видел красавца в Севастополе !!
ChedufusBON 5 days ago
Экран оператора ЗРК "Форт" зацензурен кругом - военной цензуре респект!
AloneRW 1 week ago
Was a game changer back in the day. nowadays though far smaller and cheaper to run vessels have similar capabilities.
neverfearchrisishere 2 weeks ago
@neverfearchrisishere
riiight.
See those big ass launcher tubes? This ship carries 18 missiles with 1000kg warheads or nuclear tipped if necessary. Let's take US anti-ship missiles for comparison - they're smaller alright, but carry ca. 200-500kg warheads.
For what US Navy is needing that might be enough - Russia has those things to go up against carrier groups with super carriers which demands heavy payloads and thus bigger carrier missile.
Suyamu 1 week ago
russian muscle!
constantmotionish 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
And I want one of those so fucking bad...
KiloByte69 3 weeks ago
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KiloByte69 3 weeks ago
Построен в Николаеве(Украина).
aerbex1980 1 month ago
They may have a stack of missiles and a funk soundtrack, but you know that everyone on board that ship is as drunk as a lord 24/7.
joelg34 1 month ago
@joelg34 if anything, that makes it more dangerous.....
titytit 1 month ago
@joelg34 Дибил ты еслии так думаешь обезьяна ...
ZXZXZNikitaZXZXZ 4 weeks ago
@joelg34 idk what to tell you you are stupid fuck your coment is nonsense you are just a fan boy
181jose 2 weeks ago
@181jose Oh dear, taking my comment seriously? I was simply making a joke relating to the stereotypical view that all Russians are alcoholics. Get a sense of humour, then get a fucking life you retarded muppet.
joelg34 2 weeks ago
@joelg34 ?
Bruno47602 2 weeks ago
Как же утомили безумные комментарии заокеанских долбоебов. Такое впечатление что они свои мозги давно похоронили под толстым слоем кетчупа в макдональдсе.
PromokashkaSP 1 month ago 7
Это 121 - Крейсер "Москва", головной черноморского флота...
dropMyNumber 1 month ago
Big ship, big target...!
MrCoronet32 1 month ago
@MrCoronet32
Это типа - "большому кораблю большая торпеда")))
Jacquinot1982 4 weeks ago
go russia go.fuck the usa deep into his ass.
yetiserol1 1 month ago
Что касается Крейсера Украина ему уже давно крышка чтобы его отремонтировать нужна почти та же сумма денег что и построить новый корпус! А в общем корабль тяжело назвать устаревшим самое главное какое вооружение на нем стоит!
alegator81 2 months ago
Был я на Москве и на Украине ранее назывались они Слава и Лобов проекта
1164 по бокам крылатые ракеты П-500 базальт и П-1000 вулкан дальность стрельбы 550 км ! Строились на заводе им 61 коммунара в городе Николаеве приходилось на них даже работать в то время на заводе я практику проходил!
alegator81 2 months ago
Braća Rusi su najjači :) pozdrav od braće Srba
zbunjolino97 2 months ago
is the Veryag in this footage.
MrDavisCampbell 2 months ago
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If this thing can sink american warships and stop f-35 JSF aeroplanes, then Israel is in deep doo doo. When the american Navy is at ocean bottom, american 'Marines' are helpless overseas. US Air Force, same deal. All that is left is ICBMs. Let's see: New York, Miami, Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Ft. Myers. Am I forgetting anyone?
When you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.
America!
liquetx5 2 months ago
Russian navy's biggest problem is that when away from friendly coasts, they have little to no air cover leaving them open to air attack. They have AA capability, of course, but the aircraft would never need to come into range and every one knows that missile vs. missile defense, the missile always wins eventually - after all, only one needs to get through!
442hoeky 2 months ago
Agree or Not, but Russians are Awesome LoL !!!
khalllllaaas 2 months ago
16 пусковых установок, способных выплёвывать ракеты с ядерным боезарядом малого радиуса действия. 1 этот корабль может превратить в пустыню калифорнию.
32167BD 2 months ago
@32167BD Кто ж его к берегам Калифорнии то подпустит =_=
Думайте, что пишите
AlwizardYE 1 month ago
@AlwizardYE а и не надо к берегам.
с нейтральных вод всю юсу накрывает.
32167BD 1 month ago
@32167BD Юношеский максимализм такой максимализм
AlwizardYE 1 month ago
@AlwizardYE идиот такой идиот, он в моём городе лет 10 простоял.
32167BD 1 month ago
If this thing can sink american warships and stop f-35 JSF aeroplanes, then Israel is in deep doo doo. When the american Navy is at ocean bottom, american 'Marines' are helpless overseas. US Air Force, same deal. All that is left is ICBMs. Let's see: New York, Miami, Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Ft. Myers. Am I forgetting anyone?
When you play with fire, you're gonna get burned.
America!
profnasty 2 months ago
I can say the name of music
TheMarcelobolso100 2 months ago
nice song whats the name? moscow nemesis?
petros311 3 months ago
@petros311
Moscow never sleeps
killern8tor 2 months ago
Este buque, en agrupación con los Kara, los Mokva, los Sovremenny, comandados por los Kirov, fueron la principal amenaza de la OTAN durante la guerra fría...poco puede hacer una agrupación de portaaviones estadonudenses frente un ataque en pleno de este grupo naval y los misisles antibuque lanzados desde aire.
vympel35 3 months ago
Гвардейский ракетный крейсер «Москва». Dead for all owr enemys in black and mediterranean seas
Daemoniify 3 months ago
ow does it brake :-D ?
Nikola89Chupke 3 months ago
that is probably the son of the yamato class of the japanese navy who was the most heavily armed warship in her time
SwoggerBoy 4 months ago
WWii IN COLOR! Nice.
Burnz2much 5 months ago
@Burnz2much shitz2much.. nice nick..
Cnupoc 3 months ago
I wish the Philippines can have 2-3 of these ships so that China can't bully us in our own territory.
aericzer16 5 months ago
GIGANTIC
sasis23 6 months ago
Красивый корабль, кстати, даже в США признают что наши корабли выглядят лучше: более стремительно и грозно - не то что западные "коробки" (правда увлечение "стелс" технологиями может ухудшить знаменитый "грозный" вид российских кораблей но пр.20380 выглядит весьма круто) "Атланты" вообще не зря звались "звериным оскалом социализма" (погуглите "Наши корабли были лучше")
AloneRW 6 months ago 18
@AloneRW тут дело не в "грозности", на наших кораблях банально больше вооружения всех видов, т.к. конструкторы думали не о попиле бюджета, как в США (и в сенате и в конгрессе сидят официальные "лобби" ВПК, пилящие миллиардные заказы оборонки), а о соответствии ТТХ корабля указанным в ТЗ. О чем думают отечественные конструкторы сейчас мне сложно судить, но, судя по открытым источникам, пока общее суммарное вооружение наших кораблей все еще лучше зарубежных аналогов того же тоннажа.
bodyguardik 5 months ago
@bodyguardik
Насколько я помню, концепция применения советского ВМФ была в максимальном залпе в единицу времени (т.к на второй могло не быть времени). Т.е конструктора и старались сделать вооружение максимальным.У МРК проекта 1234 вообще на вооружение приходилось до 30% водоизмещения - мировой рекорд!! Отсюда и переизбыток вооружения, кроме того кораблей у нас было меньше чем у США и потому они и были перенасыщены оружием.
AloneRW 1 month ago
121 мимо него на Северную хожу. Слава ! и класс, и Кораблю. Да Здравствует Севастополь!!!!!!!!!!!
road1594 6 months ago
ok i like america, but this ship is legitly badass
MegaTechnomaster 6 months ago
@mrpeacefunlove You know nothing about geopolitics.
pbgw123456 7 months ago
I see arguements on this board, but neither can top U>S> technology (8
deepfriedfireball 7 months ago
the Russians play defense fairly well when there backs are right up against the wall...(Moscow in 1944 as example) but otherwise, they seem to royally suck at conventional warfare...of course being real good at WAR is not neccessarily something to be proud of...And America, and some of the other NATO countries are very good at WAR...
acerr40 7 months ago
@acerr40 I agree with your comment. USA and some NATO Countrys are battle proven.
pbgw123456 7 months ago
@pbgw123456 Russia was battle proven since the beginning, so it's kinda unfair to say that it's not..plus I don't rly think that fightting against rebels with rusty ak47s in Iraq is a battle...with all that technologies states has
ch0c0lateroollZzz 7 months ago
@ch0c0lateroollZzz Russia lost in Afghanistan big time. They also have not fought with their high tech weapons. So yoe, Russia proved some stuff in WW2 but I am talking about now. Russia is not battle proven.
pbgw123456 7 months ago
@pbgw123456 big time? oh uh the same way states are losing there, also if u don't know soviet army left that place not because they got their asses kicked, but because of political things..and after afghan was chechnya and georgia, soldiers of which was trained by the states lol..it took only 5 days, and that's mean only one thing we always was and will be battle proven cuz countries that can't fight for their interests becoming oil banks )))
ch0c0lateroollZzz 7 months ago
@ch0c0lateroollZzz Chechnya and Georgia?? Are you serious? They have no military of any size and they do not have true nationalist fighting them. Russia is no where near as strong or battle proven as the USA.
pbgw123456 7 months ago
@pbgw123456 proves u don't know shit about both. georgia has ur nato equip and chechens fought for their land , but back to ur commens afghan and airaq rebels don't have a shit ..really don't..at all.. how easy is that to understand dummy. go play ur e-expert wars somewhere else and don't spam here
ch0c0lateroollZzz 7 months ago
@ch0c0lateroollZzz You have proved that you don't know shit. First off Georgia is not a member of NATO. Georgia is a NATO IPAP. US did help train them but the size of their military is no where near as big as Russia. In Georgia there were not insurgents like in Afghanistan, so to compare these to conflict just show me that you no nothing!! Geogia fought Russia by the rules of the giniva convention while insurgents in Afghan and Iraq hide in civilian clothes. YOU ARE A DUMB FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pbgw123456 7 months ago
@pbgw123456 lol wtf.. another kid debates ? use caps more son hahah chechen rebels was hiding too, and it doesn't justify ur fault in ir/afg cuz u pretend to be astrongest armmy in the world n shi with all of ur tech n trainings but u just suck it up when some fasg with a gasoline burns the shit out of abrams. nato attacks only poor countries and acts like they r heroes, but face reality even there u r goeing charlie foxtrot
ch0c0lateroollZzz 7 months ago
@ch0c0lateroollZzz You are the only kid in this debate you fucking retard!! NATO takes it easy on these countrys that don't have a massive military. USA is the strongest army in the world!!!
pbgw123456 6 months ago
@pbgw123456 so u can go screw urself on this patriotical note homo
ch0c0lateroollZzz 6 months ago
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@ch0c0lateroollZzz We all know you are the HOMO!!!
pbgw123456 6 months ago
@pbgw123456 btw "some stuff" in ww2 means more than 20 millions of lifes and the end of the third reich with a freedom that those peoples bring to the half of a Europe...
ch0c0lateroollZzz 7 months ago
well european goes for low number but high quality beacuse they have few men , easter part goes for higher numbers and lower quality beacuse they have a lot of men ( not very good crew , but in large quantity) ad have cheaper armament quality ,bacause in case of real war their number can quickly increase , while the high quality one cant'do do the same ( taks history in ww2 tells us that).
americans have a wide choice good armaments , good crews and large numbers , but expensive in long war.
bonefaith 8 months ago
Soviet Block countries have been building large modern armies and Navies since the late 1800's .. when they have lagged in a technology vs the west, they have made up for it with large numbers of good tanks or ships(NATO tends to build small numbers of super tanks and ships rather than "good" tanks and ships) Soviet block countries have good equipment. but. they lack quality training and experience. hence events like the KURSK and numerous other NAVAL "accidents" ...
acerr40 8 months ago
@acerr40 They built modern navies from the mid 1800's. They just got repeatedly sunk without having any effect on their opponents other than as target practice.
tommiatkins 7 months ago
@tommiatkins yeah...the Russians have always built decent and sometimes excellent equipment..but the ability to use it..particularly in an offensive manner..has always come up a bit short agains "western" forces, and certain "westernized" eastern forces (namely Japan)
acerr40 7 months ago
Well...the Russians had supersonic anitShip missles back in the late 70's and early 80's so these techs arent new..The Russians buillt some very creative anit ship missles during the cold war and NATO developed counters that would stop them if everything works as designed...to answer your question..yes, think the USN can defend its ships against these weapons..well enough not to get swept from the oceans in a all out gun fight with Russia or China...but defense isnt the key, intel and offense is
acerr40 8 months ago
I could tell some really funny stories about the Cold War Era Soviet Navy...they built some wonder naval vessels...but the people who operated them...not sure where they learned to run a NAVY...take a look at Russian Naval History in general...They dont have a history of winning at sea...hell...Little old Japan spanked Russia's azz in Russo-Japanese War of 1904...Britian, France and Germany all took their turns spanking the Russian Bear at sea., and on land sometimes....
acerr40 8 months ago
@acerr40 hey do you think the US navy can defense its ships from these supersonic cruise that russia has developed. the brahmos and the ss-n-27 sizzler?
mrcharles007 8 months ago
I served in the USN during the last 6 years of the COLD WAR...I had the oppurtunity to see the "RUSSIAN" navy up close and personal...the Russians built some very solid and capable warships...but they didnt train their crews worth a damn...If u take a look at the coldwar era Soviet ships u may notice they all have lots of redundant radar and tracking systems...anybody here know why that was ?? because 1, their electronics tended to break down ALOT...but even worse the crws werent trained 2 fix..
acerr40 8 months ago
@acerr40
yeah?
Did the Soviets notify you guys every time their systems broke down during the cold war? ;)
Suyamu 8 months ago
@Suyamu Sure, of course they did wise azz... I worked in rating where I had access to intel analysis from U.S. and other NATO intelligence services regarding Soviet Naval vessels and Naval operations...And by the way...you could've figure this kind of thing out for youself by following Soviet vessels around in let's say..an intelligence gathering vessel disquised as a fishing trawler taking video and photo's and monitoring radar and radio transmissions from said ships...both sides did this....
acerr40 8 months ago
@acerr40
Do I get this right, you've served during the last 6 years of the cold war... you are 42 now...
You were what... 15 - 16 years old when you've joined?
Your story doesn't add up.
Suyamu 8 months ago
@Suyamu where did u learn math...Im 42 now...I was 22 when the 1st Gulf War ended..in 1991...that was for all intents and purposes, the end of the Cold War...although the Soviet Union didnt "publicly" collapse until about a year later...I completed my last year of service in the USN in 1993 at the age of 24...I enlisted in the US Navy in 1987....does the math add up now...???
acerr40 8 months ago
what music is this?
pankierownikk 9 months ago
impressive looking ship, however the missile tubes i think were just for show lol, or if you can't afford or find the technology for a vertical launching system, which could hold more missiles and fire them at a faster rate than the tubes.
Ctasker5 9 months ago
@Ctasker5 Russia was using VLS prior to US NAVY boss....KIROV had VLS when she was built...TICONDEROGA class cruisers didnt have VLS till the 3rd ship of the class...
acerr40 8 months ago
@Ctasker5 U.S. cruisers and Soviet/Russian Cruisers served two differnt purposes. The Ticonderogas are used for air defense, look at the slava for instance her main purpose is anti ship. The Russian Surface Fleet was was smaller and inferior to that of the U.S. so they put more stock into anti ship missiles to bridge the gap.
spyderc85 8 months ago
Родная СЛАВА
63Petr 9 months ago
Hurray!!!! Russia has agreed to recapitalize Nikolayev shipyard, and finish the 4th Slava unit, the "Ukraina" which will then be transfered to Russian Navy, probably the Black Sea Fleet.
On another note, Admiral Nakimov is almost complete its overhaul! Go Russia!!!!
BTW, Slava class and Kirov class are very impressive ships!!
mattmatt115 10 months ago
outdated electronics but still a handful for any warship/carrier group. These were fitted with old electrionics but they can still do a job
johannsebastienbach 10 months ago
зае...ли Слава Москва уеб......ки
ILYA1609 10 months ago
Really gruff and muscular looking ship. Worthy of our gruff and muscular Russian Bear!
trent8002003 11 months ago
im not Russian..but the Russian army is good...
thats why my country buy the scorpene from russian...
salute....
MalaysianBoy85 11 months ago
By the way, I LOVE the slava class, its a small Kirov, represent a master peice of the cold war age.
havocrein 11 months ago
Old and rusty
more Russian junk
eee545 1 year ago
@eee545
F@#$ yourself and your stupid comment appearing everywhere!Get a life looser!
BoxyTheSpaceDog 1 year ago
WHAT IS THE MUSIC???
PLEASE!!!
ronaldo110676 1 year ago
@ronaldo110676
dj smash - moscow never sleeps
Muf1oN 1 year ago
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eee545 1 year ago
@eee545 I didn't see any American junk worth the junk Russia has.
Zorg1011 1 year ago
Soviet destroyers are the most beautiful in the world.
p.s.: the music is gay..
people...stop adding music!!!!! let me hear the ocean or whatever
ejasonk 1 year ago 3
Russia has an interesting and effective approach to countering US carrier battle groups. Not by building a lot of carriers but by building Kirov class battle cruisers and Slava class cruisers to overwhelm the carriers defenses. The AGIS class cruiser was designed to counter this threat.
I am an American and I would much rather fight a sea battle with China than Russia. Russian technology and crew skill is vastly SUPERIOR to the Chinese.
1138thz 1 year ago
@1138thz there will be no battle with Chinese or Russia. Fighting anyone with nuke is just asking for trouble. Nukes can be used as an offense but also as a defensive. Knowing the Russians and Chinese, they would probably destroy the entire world than to have American armies on their turf every day telling them how to live their lives lol.
pakjai 1 year ago
@pakjai
Who says the USA is a warlike country and would want to mess with Russia or China? Of course there can be no wars between nuclear powers, its called MAD (mutually assured destruction). My comment was obviously hypothetical and meant only to highlight the fact that at this time the Chinese incompetent at sea compared to the USA and Russia. The USA and Russia have been playing tag for a long...long time.
1138thz 1 year ago
china now has a larger than the russians and is still building at an impressive rate building more and more newer updated and new designs
knightspy 1 year ago
@knightspy
But the sophistication is no where near Russian.I just need to watch Chinese military parade and compare it to Russian,big difference.Maybe what weapons Russia now has,China might get in 20-30 years.Once China gets it's own space program,gps,complete mobile military and defense than we can talk.I just don't like this China better than Russia or vice versa talk.Both countries have good relations and Russia is still biggest weapons supplier to China.People tend to forget facts.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 1 year ago 6
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Actually, Chinese designs are quite advanced, the only thing China are still behind of Russia is in the field of engine technology, this takes time. Russia and China are good neigbors today, selling weapons to China during the 1990s didnt just earned Russia alot of needed hard cash, but are proberbly a even more confidence and relation building act which will benifit both countries security for decades to come.
havocrein 1 year ago
@havocrein
Chinese military during 90's was nothing!Russia wastly co-operated with China after Putin came to power.China doesn't have anything more advance than Russia has,stop kidding your self.By claiming otherwise shows your lack of knowledge in Russian arms manufacturing.Let me just name few weapons currently in use:Borei,Typhoon,Akula III submarines,S-400/500,Tor-M2,Buk-M2,Panzir-S1AA defense,T-90M,Object 199 Ramka,Black Eagle tanks,Su-35,Mig-35,T-50,Su-34,Mi-28,Ka50/52,it's endless list.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 1 year ago 5
@havocrein
Let me continue so there aren't doubts on your end:Iskander-M,Topol-M,Yars,Satan,nuclear and Bulava,Sineva(submarine missiles),Shkval torpedo,Saphire,Bhramos,Moskit,Sunburn(naval missiles)Club missile systems,improved Smerch,Kastan-M ship defense,even your rifle comes from Russian one.China can't be in forefront because they don't have history in weapon manufacturing and will always,always depend on tech of others to improve.I like both nations same but some things must be clear!
BoxyTheSpaceDog 1 year ago 5
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Oh, pls, true but this is not the 90s anymore, except for some special engines, there is nothing the Russians got now that China cant produce by themself, I repeat, nothing, not anymore, everything from SAM, MBT, fighter, ships, and yeah, rifles too, Type 99B MBT, HQ9A, Type721 CIWS, SeaRAM, new shipborn APAR radar in Aeigis fashion, Type 096 SSBN, 052c DDG, J10B, J20, C601, WZ10a Attack chopper, DF21A, DF31A, standard army rifle are Type 97, nothing to do with the Russians.
havocrein 11 months ago
@havocrein
I wasn't saying what China can't produce!I was saying what China doesn't have!You can name me all you want but everything there is 2 generations below what Russia now possess.Everything China has it's designed or inspired what Russia has but only name is changed.I have been around weapons from both nations.Does China have Bastion missile system,S-300 for ships,Ocka/Scarab missile.I know you respect your country so do I but your nation is behind in sensitive tech.Believe what you will
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 10
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The HHQ9a are installed on 052C DDG, similer to the naval S300 but use different radar and fire control. The scarab, CN's DF-serie missiles go from 300km(DF11) range and up. But I will admit RU still got alot of nice hardwares, I fully respect the country, CN learn alot from RU, but I do not believe what RU got now are generation ahead of CN in anyway, not anymore, whether people want to admit it or not, in some field CN are even leading ahead of RU nowdays with more $ funded.
havocrein 11 months ago
@havocrein
Have you seen that Russian radar with two grills on each side?Usually is on the top of the newest ships they have.That's now top for ship radars.T-50 is top fighter now.Borei,Typhoon,Antil and AkulaIII are latest submarines.Shkval torpedo that China has is 200km slower than of Russia.Like I wrote here before-I don't need to look further than military parades of both nations to compare the sophistication.What I don't like is China copying Russian weapons and selling 'em abroad.BRICK=1
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 6
@BoxyTheSpaceDog You are talking about the Fregat-MA radar equipt on Udaloy and Sovremenny? China use a similer Type 382(Improved version of Type 381which was installed on 051B Luhai class DDG) radar on its latest 054a class FFG, the PLAN 052C DDG uses a advanced 4 direction APAR similer to the USN SPY1D installed on the Burke class DDG, RU doesnt have such radar system in their inventory yet. The Borei class might still be a gen or a half gen ahead of the CN 095 SSN.T50 are same gen as the J20
havocrein 11 months ago
@havocrein
It's this radar:watch?v=Xf1t2Yj4yPA
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 5
@BoxyTheSpaceDog China did copied several systems from Russia, like the SU27, BMP1, but none of those were exported, thats merely propaganda. And many so called copied systems are merely inspired by the Russian system like the HQ9's launch method or plain licensed copies, like the AK760, and some subsystems, payed for. Which system do you refer to as have been copied and exported? I see NONE. Unless you are talking about old AK47 and Mig21s which were actually given blueprint, not copied.
havocrein 11 months ago
@havocrein
To end this.I like both nations alike(I am Serbian by the way).I like them working together.I also want best for BRICK alliance but I got to tell you this if I was to chose between China or Russia in a war(without nuclear weapons)I would chose Russia over anybody any day!Sure China has money and productive power but Russia isn't just sitting on it's ass!Read RIA Novosti site,there you'll find about new weapons being developed every day.Once China goes to war,wins it, we can compare.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 6
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Well, they've won a war against India and Vietnam already...and had a tie with Soviet Union.
OnlyLifeMatters 7 months ago
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BoxyTheSpaceDog 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog China
OnlyLifeMatters 6 months ago
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BoxyTheSpaceDog 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog shutup u serbian 3rd world retard u know nothing about reality go back to sleep
kiki0391 6 months ago
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@kiki0391 Haha, says a croat, funny! You wanted to call someone from a 3rd world country you prick! Dont insult my nation! You thought no one would check your channel?! If there wasnt for Serbs you Croats would still be an Austro-Hungarian stableboys...Pathetic!
Baboonmann 6 months ago 5
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BoxyTheSpaceDog 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog lol yeah we've seen that in the last war u fought u dumb serbian shit,we seen who took it long and deep out of 52 wars u fought u lost 50,now shutup u have no right to open your mouth again
kiki0391 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog in the war u fought against us croatians u got wasted,now get lost u dumb prick
kiki0391 6 months ago
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BoxyTheSpaceDog 6 months ago
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BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog China's defense budget is 1.2 billion for the year? Don't think so, check your figures. It's 91.5 billion US, for fiscal year 2011.
dkspartan1 11 months ago
@dkspartan1
I don't know neither do I care but article came out in Serbian newspapers published online.If I wrote wrong they did too.Not my fault.Anyways I don't care about Chinese wannabe superpower military.They lag in everything behind Russia and that's undisputable fact.I won't continue any further,need any reference go back last few pages all my comments are there.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 4
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The Chinese probably do know how to tell one number from another. They usually don't make excuses when they're wrong. I don't know, neither do I care what your thoughts are on the Russian Navy. I didn't ask about that, I said your numbers are wrong asshole.
dkspartan1 11 months ago
@dkspartan1
I know it's around 91 billion or so.So what?Why getting so touchy over my mistake that was honest one.I even deleted my comment because it was faulty which means I respected yours in return.And for all that you call me asshole,why?I haven't told anything bad to you moreover I respected your comment as right one,mine as false.My actual thought's weren't on Russian Navy but on differences between Russian and Chinese military's which is huge in Russian favor.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 4
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Actually the man is right, officially 91.5 billion dollars, China's defense budget is closer to 160 billion dollars according to the Pentagon. Against these sources, your Serbian newspapers are not credible. They don't evolve.
OnlyLifeMatters 6 months ago
@OnlyLifeMatters
Who cares?Just read my discussion wit user "havocrein",all I want to replay to you is there.Just so I wouldn't replay myself all the time.He's also in World of doubt as you are so get educated,cheers!
BoxyTheSpaceDog 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog lol this is hilarious,stolen land?haha u tried to steal our land but u didnt go much further then Vukovar that is the border line between serbia and Croatia,that proves your power,now shutup
kiki0391 6 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog And I can continuie the list, DH-10 LACM, WS2(3 times the range of smerch and with better accuracy), KJ-2000 AWACS which uses APAR(Technically its even more advance than USAF E3, let alone the Russian A50), China have hade 1000s of years experience of making weapons, and its a quick learner, it only lagged behind because of wars and later the culture revolution which stopped everything for more than a decade, I like both nations same too, but yeah some things must be clear also.
havocrein 11 months ago
@havocrein
Only one weapon now comes to my mind that China will never have-Hrizenthema(Tank Killer).Than we have Refleks,Bastion tank missiles,Kornet-M Atgm,Cactus tank armor,Relikt tank armor,BTR 3,Rifles Ak-100,An 94Abakan,your Awacs is also Russian,lol.Your transport planes are Russian/Ukrainian.You don't have supersonic bomber like T-160,you don't have mobile nuclear forces or defense for it,where's S-400?Where's Iskander-M?Don't jump too high,OK?Win a war or two and than we'll talk,bye.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 11 months ago 11
@BoxyTheSpaceDog The DF31a Are mobile ICBM. And you mean Khrizantema? The HJ10 should do the same job. The composite and reactive tank armour on T99a are very advanced as well as fully modular designed. The KJ2000 AWACS only use Russian Il76 plane to carry the system, same system will be installed on domestic C919 airplane later, the radar system are what counts. No supersonic bomber yes, but the improved H6 with a much more powerful engine(Russian) are actually fully capable of supersonic speed
havocrein 11 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog And arguably, such bombers roll are been replaced by multi-roll fighters such as the Su30, F15C/D, J10A etc. S-400 are quite a unique system, i give you that, its a short range antiBM system, but then again China have successfully tested a anti satelit missile recently, the capability are the same as medium range anti balisticmissile missile, not even the US have showed the same kind of capability yet with thier missile shield program. Russia is good, but CN have catched up.
havocrein 11 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog You are quite funny talking like that. Maybe when you learn a fact or two about PLA you're ashamed for those words.
OnlyLifeMatters 6 months ago
@OnlyLifeMatters actually, it makes perfect sense why China have higher Defence Budget recently, it is because to replace much of the military hardware which the Russians already had. China is economically strong because they have opened their doors to trade with the Western World and vice versa. USA imports close to 80% of their household products from China, and also all over the world uses things made in China. If China is left alone without global exposure, they are weaker than Russia, alot.
StRapier 5 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog
China will just buy russia then russia becomes chinese.
Ortheos2006 4 months ago
@Ortheos2006
Funny,but Russia isn't US.In your dreams and now go take some valium and go back to sleep.Zzzzzzzzzz....
BoxyTheSpaceDog 4 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog china does not need to make cheap weapons like Russia. China has proven antisatellite missiles. Russia does not. and u say it cant make something like S-400? lol. I say u stop jumping now ur buying mistral from france lol. The PAK FA is not even stealth. Just a sukhoi 27 in a different upper body.
MrPeace4everyone 4 months ago
@MrPeace4everyone
Where is than theirs S-400?Why not make mobile radar to1800km range and 1200km in height that Russia just rolled out?I am not Russian,France is in total shit over debt and economy and had to sell Mistral to somebody and Russia needs only a ship but tech be Russian on-board!Stealth doesn't mean not seen!It's not any sci-fi tech and as such mentioned is something Russia researched in 60's.Why not check out 7 billion $ deal between Chins and Russia,who needs who more?
BoxyTheSpaceDog 4 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Cuz not every country decides to use SAMS for airdefence. SAMS are very vulnerable and that has been proven in war. China like the U.S decided to build sophisticated large fleet of aircrafts for air defence. And China has gone very far and in some areas excelled more than russia in this field. Russia chose to build SAMS because its territory is too large and it does not have the ability to produce alot of aircraft for total territorial airspace defence.
MrPeace4everyone 4 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog I do think the Russian military is of a much higher quality than China, & could probably resist a Chinese invasion, but the Russian military is, for the most part, defensive in nature. It wouldn't stand any real chance of invading China or seizing any of it's foreign assets. I would have to say China has a more viable chance of invading Russia than vice versa. Only due to their superior numbers & viable logistics support.
franknbeans4761 4 months ago
@franknbeans4761
You don't know anything I must tell you,nothing at all.Russia and China just signed 7 billion $ deal after Putin's visit and China needs Russian resources,nuclear,military,space tech and knowledge!Both Russia and China have national growth of some 7-9% per year!Russia can invade and take China any time it pleases!Kazakhstan just signed security treaty with Russia and allowed nuclear and space tests!Chinese tech is 20-30- years behind,make no mistake!Compare it and you'll see.
BoxyTheSpaceDog 4 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog Well let's calm down. No one could occupy either country. They are too large. The Russian military is defensive in nature (many heavy SAM's, diesel subs, guided missile boats/corvettes, many interceptors) & isn't meant for sustained operations outside of it's borders. Neither is China & they both have solid economies, but Russia's certainly isn't as powerful as China's. Especially since most of Russia's military & industry is in the west.
franknbeans4761 4 months ago
@BoxyTheSpaceDog After reading through some of your comments, I can tell you are a big Russian advocate. Which is fine. But the S-300, the 55Zh6ME mobile radar system, Iskander, & a lot of large scale systems are not war winners. Especially when fighting an enemy that majorly outnumbers you in an engagement area far away from Russia's own industrial base. The meat & potatoes of warfare are aircraft & in this scenario large land formations (but usually naval forces).
franknbeans4761 4 months ago
@franknbeans4761
chinese have all military tech based on russian. they just copy and a little bit modernize, but russia develop new techs. chinese wanted to buy such beatiful torpedo as shkval. all world wanted it, but as they and americunts bought it, russia had allready new one. btw shkval was built 1977. do u really think we dont have something new?oO
Russia2010 3 months ago
@Russia2010 For the most part, that is true. I wouldn't go as far as saying "Americunts" but that's another story.
The Chinese do in fact operate equipment that is to a smaller standard as Russia's, but you cannot argue with China's massive numbers. I think China has over 1 million more men than Russia does in it's armed forces. And without conscripts.
Russia is for the most part more advances, but quantity has a quality of it's own.
franknbeans4761 3 months ago
@franknbeans4761
yes, thats sadly true.
Russia2010 3 months ago
Great video but ultra gay music... Just sayin =[
16Echo101stID 1 year ago
That is what the Russians ADMIT. Know that 3/4 of their Navy lurks beneath the waves and they aren't talking about any of it. Their carrier fleet is decades behind ours but their missile boats could be a problem. I only hope that Obatty doesn't blow it with Russia again, the way he did in India.
MrRocmike3 1 year ago
What is this song?
xXGarner 1 year ago
@xXGarner DJ Smash - Moscow never sleeps
Oleginkot 1 year ago
@Oleginkot Thank you soooooooooo much. This is fucking amazing.
xXGarner 1 year ago
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what kind of computer this video on 047 to 049, 152 to 155
bestamerica 1 year ago
These and the Kirovs would definatly get the attention of naval warfare planners should one decide to take on the Russian Navy, hopefully not so much that the still very formidable submarine force is able to sneek up on you and get you while yer not looking....lol...cool video.
TheSteelerfan74 1 year ago
@TheSteelerfan74 Only 1 of Kirov class is currently operational in Russian NAVY. Not much of "force" to speak about.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
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adrastea99 1 year ago
This is what a war fighting ship looks like!
Wckedone 1 year ago
It's like, that thing can carry 16 moskit misseles? Well, i think it can put an entire fleet in trouble!
AlbatrossDude 1 year ago
Defenitly one of the finest Warships of the Late 1900's Conbining both Gunnery and Guided Missles for a Powerfull Balance of Weaponary (there 16 "Granit" [also called "Shipwreck" by "NATO"] could sink any Western Warship)
michaelfergusonuk 1 year ago
@michaelfergusonuk
Em, no. P-700 Granit missiles are using in Kirov class battleships. "Petr Velikiy" for example. For 'Slava" class - P-500 Bazalt or newer P-1000 Vulkan.
ripwolfram 1 year ago
@ripwolfram My Mistake, (assuming that the "Slava's" carried the same Missles as the "Kirov" Class, ) Although i must point out that (since ive studied the History of Battleships /Battlecruisers /Pocket Battleships for the past seven Years,) that the Defenition (Based on Size /Beam & Peformance/ Armarment) of the Kirov Class is that of a Battlecruiser rarther than a Battleship (the Last True example of the Former in Russian Service being the Gangut Class { apart from "Sovetsky Soyuz" Class).
michaelfergusonuk 1 year ago
@michaelfergusonuk this also depend on nation too in my country the Kalinin renamed Konigsberg is calssified as battleship due defetion but actualty it a battlesruser
baltic1284 1 year ago
1:48 shows a Kilo-class submarine as well. If any one is intrested in knowing.
T80s 1 year ago
Song is awsome
xRUSSIANMEx 1 year ago
FAKE!!!!!
MY original video here: watch?v=7JpfSUPz2Fs
RusSevastopol 1 year ago 11
Great video anyway.