23. Or there is no physical evidence of a world wide flood.
Give me hard, empirical evidence, that doesn't rely on the Bible for proof, and then we'll talk. Until then, you're just speaking through your ass. Oh, and the "Appeal to emotions" is a bullshit tactic and makes us hate you further.
!., These could be localized events, including the flood of Genesis.
2. Stupid.
3. Even if we go with creationist's estimates, that still puts 50,000 animals on the ark. Not to mention the food and water for all of them over the course of a year.
4. Look at the Titanic.
Oh, there is also the problem of altitude. The Bible says that all land was covered with 20 feet of water. This includes Mt Everest. If true, then everyone would freeze or suffocate due to low oxygen levels.
It never fails to amaze me that so many people opposed to the flood come to a page as this with no intent but to spurt their opinions.If a person does not believe the flood a fact,why do you care enough to spend your time ranting to those who do believe?People forget God can do anything.They judge Him based on natural laws.He would not be supernatural if His works could be explained and agreed with normal laws of nature-Then you ask questions answered in this very video-You look utterly foolish
Noah, the flood, Moses, Jesus, talking snake, etc. are all plagiarized in The Bible. They are stories created, 3000 years before The Bible was written, about Horus the Egyptian God. All the same stories are also in countless religions hundreds and thousands of years before the Bible was written. However, these stories were made to go along with the Zodiac calendar, not to become literal or a religion.
im not even going to bother with the rest of this videos complete stupidity. it is obvious that the flood never happened anyone with a sense of intelligence knows this. and the video poster is obviously too stupid to think for him/her self and look at anything logically. people like this are so brainwashed by religion they dont see the mental gymnastics required to make sense of any of the idiotic fairy tales in the bible.
not only are we far more advanced with mapping the genome, medicine and mapping the stars, our brains are actually larger then the bronze age man. also the longer life span is BULLSHIT if you added all the ages of noah, adam, moses, joseph and others according to when they supposedly lived then samual WOULD HAVE DIED 50 YEARS AGO.
9 if the highest mountains were covered by 20 feet of water then EVERYTHING IN THE ARK WOULD HAVE DIED FROM LACK OF OXYGEN.
5 problem. speciation. there is in NO WAY enough biological material to continue a specie if only 7 pairs of any "kind" were on the ark.
6 so god had kangaroo's swim from australia to noahs house some 5,000 miles of ocean
7 wow all animals were herbavores, so why are there fossils of raptors (65 mya) who had teeth for eating meat. you must realize that carnivores CAN NOT DIGEST PLANT MATERIAL.
8 how in the FUCK were bronze age people smarter or more advanced then we are today? - cont
1 people scoff the bible because of talking donkey's and snakes. no scientific claims are made in the bible
2 legends are just that, legend. just like the legend of sleepy hollow. legend does not equal REAL.
3 the ark could NOT hold the millions of species of animals and insects. not to mention the continent hoping noah would have done to aquire all the animals.
4 "may have had a moon pool? huh problem NO ARK TO TEST THAT HYPOTHESIS. -cont
@PsychoSymantic good point because there is no arc you could pretty much say "the arc might have had super awesome vendi machine to supply food that never went out" because you cant disprove ther was cuz god can do anything....except exist :P
Another point. Would you rather believe science which says 'well, we looked at the possibilities and this is our proposed explaination which doesn't involve magic, if you come up with a better theory then I'm all ears' or the bible 'this is true, you must believe or burn in eternal hell'? Maybe read 1984 by George Orwell and ask yourself why the bible might scaremonger?
Thank you for posting this. I'm really interested in christian psychology, that is - how anyone can believe something like the ark tale to actually be possible. This was a great insight. The part regarding the intra species super evolution required glossed over at the end of 8 was particularly interesting.
So cute - I was like this when I was 5.... so endearing that people actually believe this....(no maliciousness to my words... genuinely endearing)
So god magicked all the animals to WALK to Noah's house from all over the planet. He then magicked them to not fight. He then magicked rain to fall for a really long time...
Sheesh... Why couldn't he just magic away the people he didn't want without the need for all this hassle? Would have been easier.
@sromag Because the point of it is to be in his bible to tell a story that is true, but yet displays a bigger picture. Ill let you figure that one out.
being spiritually blind is why you couldnt see this.
Look... if it makes you happy then believe in whatever you like and be as sanctimonious as you like also... but don't try to reason it out if you can't string 2 neurons together to understand what a load of nonsense this is.
Apologies if that sounds condescending but it's truly baffling how creationists manage to close their eyes and completely ignore every shred of logic and repeat the same diatribe over and over again.
the rocks contain fossils, fossils only survive in sedimentary rocks, sedimentary rocks are formed under water. Btw, Not all the fish died. Many species of fish are capable of surviving in both salt and fresh water. Also salt and fresh water dont mix due to different density. It is extremely possible and likely saltwater fish survived in pockets of salt water, same with fresh water fish. Many species of fish probably did die off though
please prove that multiple layers can't come from a lot of water in little time. There are plenty of examples on earth where things were formed in a short amount of time
How can each rock layer be laid down in a uniform layer? Why are the fossils that are found in these rock layers found in clusters and often piles of differing fossils? Why are fossilized trees found standing up connecting many rock layers? Why are some of these trees found to be up-side down or (inverted)? Why are many fossilized forests found in the same rock layers? Why is there NO CONSISTENCY between consecutive rock layers throughout the world? your rocks sure do leave a lot of questions
The oceanic crust of the Earth is different from its continental crust. The oceanic crust is composed primarily of basalt, diabase, and gabbro. The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick, and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust. Some of these less dense rocks, such as granite, are common in the continental crust but rare to absent in the oceanic crust.
None of this adresses much. Did the koala's and other marsupials from australia bring their food with them? did Noah bring the seeds to revive the decimated plant population? if the earth was covered in water for 190 days (days of rain plus days before it subsided) all the plants would have died. (besides, if it was over the mountains, no light would have reached them) And all of this neglects the worms, insects, fungi, and other creatures that would have been entirely wiped out.
So pre-flood people had computers? Did they leave any evidence of their intelligence to pass on to future generations? Why didn't Noah collect at least SOME of the "advanced" technology and pass it on to his descendants? I hate how retarded many christians can be sometimes.
1. Wow, how a person can deny proof and evidence is beyond me.
2. How is that fail?
3. Actually, it proves that there didnt have to be so much food and not all animals had to be fed, which many atheists claim it was impossible to feed all animals each day.
4.The earth flat meaning small mountains, not flat like a pancake
5. Morons claim all that stuff, actual scientists claim to have seen the ark stupid ass
6. I get it, there is no point 21, but that was a horrible attempt at making a joke.
1. Deny proof and evidence? This doesn't show proof and evidence, neither does the poster imply this does, he merely states 'Points to ponder'.
2. It's fail because it's proposing that the Ark was built using proof that has not been proved itself, that being the Bible being true.
3. It doesn't prove that the Ark story is true in its entirety I should've said then, it's like saying that because there were animals in that time, they could have them on the boat.
3. After the bad weather, the Bible says the water stayed for 150 days, that's how much food and water would have been needed then.
1. If atheists are to believe this they must have proof, not ponderances.
2. Exactly like the Bible said? Did the Bible say Hitler will invade Poland? Does it say JFK would be shot? Does it say that King Harold would be killed in 1066? Does it ever say anything that is not so vague in it's meaning to be a fulfilled prophecy? After many translations as well?
Seriously? like the fact that it says king Nebuchadnezzar would lay seige to the city of tyre and that the city would never be rebuilt is a twisted passage? By the way, this actually happened the way the bible said, and although the place is inhabited (which the bible said it would be a place for fishing nets, meaning inhabited), it is not a rebuilt city
That passage states that 'with the hoofs of his horses he will trample all your streets. He will slay your people with the sword; and your strong pillars will come down to the ground' amongst other things, however, Nebuchadnezzar II laid siege for 13 years, and never destroyed the city, they only compromised in the end, even the Bible says so, Ezekiel 29:18 says in part, '...but he and his army has no wages from Tyre for the labor that he had performed against it."
Actually, It never says it would destroy the city, but that many nations would attack like waves in the sea. But thank you for pointing out that even the bible said so.
Nebuchadnezzar did infact invade and destroy the mainland part of the city, which is what is read in 26:8, and thats exactly what happened, and ezekial prophecied that the rest of the city on the island would be destroyed by other nations, so infact this prophecy is true
From point number 8: "Animals have diversified into many varieties in the 4,400 years since the Flood."
Here he gives us a date to go by. This means we can use this date to experiment with. The First Dynasty in Egypt was about 5,600 years ago. It looks as though your hypothesis fails.
Waste of time. The first slide is an unsound argument for an empirical phenomenon. The rest of it is digressions and assertions with no verifiable proof.
Your logic is (MORE THEN) flawed and must be revised.Give me your numbers of the ark size and animals on it and food/water needed, and dont give me that crap about Noah standing 11 feet tall.
Your right they were smarter than us, then we had this point in history "dark ages" or "religious fundamentals running around calling science witch craft" thats when we got stupid. Point 15 thru 19 WE CAN MESURE THE RATE OF DRIFTING CONTINENTS AND IF THIS HAPPENED IN 300 YEARS YOU COULD SEE AFRICA FROM FLORIDA, we can see mountains form from the bottom of the ocean(underwater) to great heights due to volcanoes in Hawaii, thats how sedimentary rock gets up there.
Your 8th thru 13th points states "(seven of some)" Wrong again, seven of clean animals, two of unclean-(i thought that would be all the animals, boy was I wrong) bring seven of every bird(so birds are not clean and their not unclean WTF are they?) "This Diversification is not anything to great claims evolutionists teach" No its not, but one simple fact, millions of years not 4,400. "The pre-flood people were Probably" PROBABLY? i thought you delt in facts
Your 7th point states "Many Bible Scholars" said that man was bigger and therefore the cubits were bigger and the kinds of animals is smaller. Do you understand what you just did? You made the ark bigger and the animals smaller to fit your dumb hypothesis. My bible says scholars have est. 45,000 animals could have fit, without food or water
so Noah living 950 years, thats the real question not this flood, the flood is minuscule compared to Noah, lets see you explain that garbage
"over 500 flood legends from all parts of the world have been found. Most have similarities to the genesis account"
the similarties you speak of must be reversed, the story of Atum in Egypt, the story of many gods destroing the world every 1200 years in Babylonian times and the story of enlil of Assyrian myths CAME WAY BEFORE Genesis and that's just three I wish to point out, there are many more, so you need to edit the statement to "Genesis has many similarties to ..." and not the other way
Okay so, before the "flood" ... people were bigger, smarter, ect; than people today?
Lol. So, god ended up dumbing us down after the initial "cleansing" of sinners?
What I don't understand is, the Bible mentions, before the flood every animal & person was a vegetarian & claims that the world was in harmony, yet, the whole purpose of the flood was to kill the sinners right?.. so who's to say there weren't meat eaters, sinning, all over the world as well?
True scientific objection ism would clearly lead you to believe that neither evolution or creationism can be proven and upon further data their is no ground for experimentation ergo the debate of evolution vs creationism can not be scientific as their is no way to test either model against the experimental model. They are both matters of faith.
Any adult with an iota of education who takes the ark story literally deserves all the scorn they're sure to recieve. If you had even a glimmer of understanding of how ridiculous arguing this makes you look, you'd never show your face in public again. That you're not alone is no excuse. I try to be fair and polite, but some things are just so silly that argument by ridicule is not only justified, it's demanded.
Are we talking 'education' or 'indoctrination'? Modern day education teaches evolution and a very anti-christian curriculum. The Christian student is forced to swim in shark-filled or is it atheist-filled waters? I think so!
Did I mean 'education' or 'indoctrination'? I meant what I said, 'education'. An even slightly educated person deserves scorn if they believe the ark/flood story is actual history, since they should know and think better, and so are "without excuse". An indoctrinated person, by contrast, is a tragic figure who can be expected to believe almost any nonsense.
Evolution isn't anti-Christian; it's empirical science. If a theology's claims are anti-scientific, too bad for that theology.
Your 'empirical science' doesn't add up. Evolution is a dead issue. Creation science is proving the Bible correct and it just bites the evolutionist right in the ass!! The flood story is true and the evidence is irrefutable. Get an education, sonny and keep the faith.
filmfans, it is simply sad to me that the fantasy that is christianity holds you, like so many other millions, so tightly. there is no evidence - none - that stands up to scientific scrutiny to prove a global flood ever occurred. i hope that one day the world is rid of the scourge that is organized religion (x-ianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, all of it) and we can focus on making the world a better place for those living here now. i'm sick of the debate -- god does not live; get over it.
Ron Wyatt was a fraud and a liar; nobody believes he found the ark, or Sodom and Gomorrah, or the site of Jesus' crucifixion. Please remove your head from your ass and wake up; I'm embarrassed for you.
Don't be embarassed for me, moron. Y O U are just another godless fool on your way to the infernal regions. Wake up stupid and smell the coffee!! We are living in the end times and that means judgement is coming for horse's asses such as you. Atheists must count as one of the eight wonders of the world for their shear stubborness in rejecting their own salvation. Amazing!!
you have it backwards. I have an education. I suggest you get one. You don't even know the definition of empirical science and yet you speak against it. "Creation Science" is an oxymoron. There is no evidence for the flood theory. The "evidence" you would point to was falsified as evidence and thusly negated itself. There is only negative evidence for God and the Ark. You have no leg to stand on.
You have an education? What you have mandangalo18 is INDOCTRINATION not education! The faculty at the local college is paid to propagate the same lies over and over again concerning evolution. These atheists are afraid of the coming judgement and they should be. So should you, brother. But you have a choice: repent and turn to the Lord Jesus for your salvation!
who is paying them to spread lies? The best Universities that give us modern medicine are spreading "lies" through medical science only possible because of the understanding of evolution? You sir, fail. Take a critical look at what you know. Whose knowledge comes through erudition of empirical science, and whose is from dogmatic expression? "Indoctrination" into science is an oxymoron. Science is completely objective, indoctrination is subjective and biased. sigh
1. That would be called "strong atheism" refer to Wikipedia for a demarcation of the different types of atheism.
2. I suppose they are talking about things that they do not hold a belief in. Not believing in something is the default human state. Do you believe in Zeus? If not you have a non-belief in Zeus.
In order for a statement to be nonsense, it must fail to convey an idea. Since not believing in a defined entity is a clear idea, this does not qualify as nonsense.
That would be called "strong atheism"-mandangalo18
"Weak Atheism"(implicit) simply implies that one has not "thought about beliefs in gods".
The fact that you would go around attacking believers and then state that you are a "weak" atheist to avoid a counter, quite frankly, "weak" is an understatement.
I never said that I was a weak atheist. I am an agnostic atheist. Point out where I said I'm a weak atheist. You are telling LIES again. Avoiding a counter does not follow from stating a position. That's like saying someone states "I'm a Trinitarian" to avoid a counter to an argument about Islam. They are different positions. Please point out where I did. Otherwise you are spreading more LIES about me.
"loooooool u have down syndrome or somethin? cuz all you have to say sounds like a down syndrome kid!!!lololooolooloolol!!!1111 eleven!one1"- manofthehour690
May I ask, are you a professor at one of those prestigious radical left wing Universities? Sure sounds like it.
if you have the capacity to form a valid and sound argument, then do so and present it to me. I will reply to a sound and valid argument. Otherwise, you can continue with your idiotic drivel until you turn blue; I grow weary of pointing out your willful ignorance and misunderstanding of language and logic.
"I grow weary of pointing out your willful ignorance and misunderstanding of language and logic."-mandangalo18
Likewise.
Why don't you leave people alone who are different than you?
Seriously.
Stop trolling.
You add nothing to the conversation by claiming to be "Atheist" to attack theists and then hide behind "agnosticism" instead of standing up for what you believe in. If anything.
You are taking my comments grossly out of context. You are dishonest; stop misrepresenting what I wrote. I am not supporting the position that Universities spread lies. The way you quoted me makes it seem as if I actually held that position. You have nothing of value to say so you attack me personally through LIES? You are despicable.
Taking my comments out of context is dishonest. Saying that I said I am a weak atheist is a lie. You are a liar. It would seem you hold the position that pointing out erroneous information is "whining".
"Everybody knows who's side you are on."
no, they don't. Neither do you. You fail to grasp logic. Try formulating an argument that is rational. You will need to learn the principles of logic and fallacious reasoning first, so don't try right away.
There wouldn't be logic or reason without God. Plenty of scientific foreknowledge is contained in the Bible. God is everything. Please don't put too much faith in the atheist version of logic and reason. Atheists know there is a God, they just refuse to accept Him.
You're using the Bible to prove the Bible's correctness. That's as credible as saying that pigs fly because I said so.
Also, one does not put "faith" in logic and reason, because the two terms are exact opposites. Logic derives from empirical evidence, while faith works off of paranoid delusions of false hope.
You can follow your "faith" if it makes you feel comfortable, but you won't find answers.
The Bible is divine inspiration not circular reasoning. It is more than just a book. The Bible contains prophecies concerning the "end times" in which we are now living. Check out Matthew chapter 24 and read all of it. In Matthew, Christ tells of His Second coming to put down some kind of calamity that can only be WWIII. In a third world war involving modern weapons, no life would be saved. How did He know? Only God could know this!!!
have faith. the bible says that when jesus comes back non believers wont understand how because they proved him to be fake but he shall break all the scientific laws of this earth. it doesnt say that directly like in a verse but its in there somewhere lol. have faith
your mind already seems to be made up. have a wonderful day. and if im wrong and your mind is not made up, maybe believe it because what is written down in there that they talk about israel is happening right now to them. that is what really convinced me.
#12 ,, all were vegetarians ??? where the fuck all the veggies come from ??? god ship em down ?? when will people just simply stop being so fuckin stupid?????
exactly, if everything ate veggies we would not have any true carnivores today, there are lots of animals that simply cannot digest plants they would all die,we would only have omnivores today. 11 foot skeletons? prove it. if it only took a few thousand years to move continents into the position they are today, why did the plates slow dow so drastically? The whole bible is stupid, it has no place in this world other than weird fairy tales for adults.
Large size skeletons and human artifacts such as cooking items, pots and tools have been found in the coal seams of the world; totally blowing to hell the theory of evolution non-sense!!!
"totally blowing to hell the theory of evolution non-sense!!!"
Prove it, lets see it. Show me the scientist who wrote up the findings and submitted them to a reputable peer reviewed scientific journal the the findings were corroborated.
"Who are you to refute the Lord you God? Maybe it just takes a little faith, eh fella?"
Or maybe it doesnt. Why rely on faith when we can rely on reality, evidence and truth?
The evolution theory is kept alive on publicly funded life support. The story of Noah's ark is evidenced by the ark site in Eastern Turkey, petrified wooden beams and iron rivets and all! Ron Wyatt, an amateur archaeologist may not have had the education to make him prominent in the science journals but he had FAITH. It must have generated considerable jealousy in academic circles.
"It must have generated considerable jealousy in academic circles."
More like laughter. If this is the same guy I have heard of, then yeah, it was laughter.
Found this gem on Wiki: "His claims are dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars and most Christian leaders even in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church, but he continues to be quoted (especially on the Internet)."
You're using circular logic : The Bible says God Exists, God (in the bible) says the bible exists and is proof of him, ergo both must be true.
Using the same 'logic' I can say "This book says I'm God, I agree with the book, in fact, this book is proof of my godly existence". All I have to do is show you the book and you MUST accept it as true.
# 1, You do know those stories are coming from heathens right?
# 2, Point taken. No point really to refute.
# 3, How did Noah collect ALL the animals in time and not have them die?
A point here. EXPLAIN THE CHEETAH. The Cheetah is basically screwed. We can take and do skin transfers from Cheetah A to Cheetah B with no problems. That shows how messed up they are. Source: DonExodous2
"18.The continents were notseperated until 100-300 years after the flood (genesis 10:25) the people and anumals had time to migrate anywhere on Earth by then"
HAHAHA yes, continensts only take about 100 years to seperate, at this rate im surprised we havent collided with China yet.
Dont even bother saying the Qu'ran is more accurate book, when in a matter of fact the qu'ran is a direct copy of the bible, written about 300 years after the bible, its took some bits out and added some in completly irrelivent.
True, but them laws were only meant for high jewish rabbi's, when jesus came he stopped them laws because they were too hard to keep, it says so in the new testament, although some still apply to us e.g not to mark the body with tattoo's etc.
And i'll ask again, what passages that the bible suposedly "got wrong", there probably metaphoric yes, but i dont know what "passages" your on about.
Such as? And yes it is sinful to be Gay. Theres more scientific Things in the bible aswell such as Blood is the source of life and death, [we thought sick people should be bled], free float of earth in space [we thought it sat on a large animal apparently] theres more aswell.
All right passages against science, tell me a few, i'd like to hear them.
Please tell me, verse aswell where it says you should kill non believers and not eat shellfish, im intrigued.
How? It states facts that back when it was writted we did not know, e.g, the earth being round [we thought it was flat], inummerable stars[we thought only 1,100 stars], air has weight[we thought air was weightless], light moves[we though it was ina fixed place], wind blows in cyclones[ we thought winde blew staright]etc etc.
A lot of these facts are in the bible, a few of them for example the moon pool and the anchors are assumptions but assumptions with a high probability. Facts such as the animals came to him, the contients and mountains did not form until after the flood etc are in the bible.
If god wiped out everyone for misbehaving then why doesnt he start a flood. oh yea he promised he wouldnt. How convenient? The bible was written to explain what the people could not explain. Someone sat down one day and wrote a story about how earth was created and fools like you take it to heart. "god" has his work cut out for him whenever he decides its time for "Judgement". the bible it nothing more than a story and should be treated as such and nothing more. And no sir i am certaintly not 10
Actually nothing in the bible has ever been proven wrong, its 100% accurate, science even confirms the bible, it has scientific facts in it that we wouldnt believe until we had techonolgy to prove it right, its a book that was written by different people who lived 100's of years apart from each other different backgrounds and everything, and it still fits in all together, perfectly, So dont tell me "someone sat down and writted a story", i know more than you on the subject.
Im rational and believe things that are true. I dont take someones word without proof just like i dont read a book and assume everything is true simply cause a religion follows from it. You even doubt yourself when you say "i dont think there was anything there to start lowering our life span". I apologize if i struck a conformative nerve of yours. God is so easy to defend in an argument because he is "almighty". he is only mighty when he chooses to be. Why doesnt he cure the disease and poverty
Yup, only atheists are rational and everyone else on the planet is stupid for not being atheist. If you honestly think this you have fuckin mental issues. I mean when you have to ask why bad things happen then you really don't know anything. You could honestly fuckin google that question
atheists tend to be a rational lot and they often point out when and where other people are not, but to say atheists believe no one else is rationional is a strawman of atheism. I have met many christians who were rational, but they used their rational minds to try to explain things which cannot and aren't supposed to be rationalized.
And bad things happen, because bad things happen. atheists ask, "if there is an omnibenevolent god, why does he let bad things happen so often? (not verbatim)
Dude, your name is 31guitar and you're discussing theology? Is the world going insane?
No, the above is not my actual opinion, I don't care what people call themselves there are backstories. And just becase I made a mistake at one point in my life i get attacked all the time. Besides this is an ad hominem attack. You only attacked my handle, not my arguement.
I hope my above statement about your name shows you how stupid and petty what you said is.
how can you even attack my name? Yours worships evil while mine is nothing more than my interest. Yeah you made a mistake and you're shocked that people attack you. Nobody will really forgive you for your mistakes in life, thats how humans are. Only one person can forgive you for that, you know who that is.
did you not read that part of my message????? I was showing you that attacking someones name does nothing to discredit their arguements. I am actually used to it and not surprised in the least, I just think it's sad that no one considers what I say, only my handle, it's really sad.
Next time try thinking before you type.
also, consider, how many does god kill in the bible alone? satan?
they actually counted, god is responsible for far more deaths.
You're right, i am more an atheist. Take your blind fold off. Your a puppet for some book. It seems to me that 64 years is more believeable than 900. The human body just doesn't last that long. stop picking and choosing what god does and doesnt do. So god creates man but its mans fault for disease. Just stop. You put 6 billion people together and of course somekind of disease and poverty will arise. Of course there was less disease thousands of years ago, there was simply less people to be sick.
If Harry potter was written in place of the bible if people would follow that too. So if god is all forgiving why does he committs the biggest act of GENOCIDE ever recorded. There is just too many holes in the bible just to blindly belive in it. They even had to write a second testament to cover what they missed. Come on now. Even if an 11 ft. tall man could live longer how the fuck does that explain a 950 year life span that is stated in the bible. Most people cant even reach 95 years old.
You sure your catholic? Sound a lot like an atheist to me. and again i hate ignorant people. do you know how much diseases man has now? how much decay and poverty we have as time goes on, at the beggining of time i dont think there was anything there to start lowering our life span, not so long ago the life expectancy of a man was 26 years old, they could say the same thing back then about how we live to 90, so whats to say we didnt live until 950? You seem like a 10 year old, mentally too.
Watching this makes me ashamed to be catholic,i dont belive a word in the bible or the book of Genesis. It is so easy to say that god can do anything and thus making anything you say about god true. If a doctor told you it was healthier to shit out of your mouth, would you try that to? Please dont post any religious videos on youtube. Just the sentence about being ignorant if you dont belive is ignorant itself. If u take a closer look at the bible all u see is a stack of paper.
How did 8 people manage to feed, water and clean out the shit after that many animals?
from what iwe seen animals usualy gets restless from bad wheather + they where stacked in pens aboard a boat something they never would have done before. Animals gets spooked by new surroundings. And your wentilation system would not work. water going up and down in a central shaft would not feed fresh air down, it would only push the air a bit up then suck it right down again.
Where did you get this nonsense about the ark being a barge, and thus could survive the time at sea. Most of the stresses from hogging and sagging are due to wave motion. Only way to eliminate these are to eliminate waves. That is impossible. there are many other problems with the ark structurally as well, but it could go on for pages. Information such as this comes from people who desperately want it to be true, and don't mind lying to those with no background in the field.
Eurgh, where did you get this nonsense of the ark not being a barge? Did you know from the ark measurements that the first ever ship was built but only abit smaller? That ship has been recorded in history, from the bible's measurements we have ships today, so please, dont come to me saying theres problems with the ark.
Why do you think that the waves care that it is a barge, or v bottomed vessel. It doesn't. What do they do about temporary ballast. What do they do about non-continuous hull sheathing. And as far as the ark being a barge. if you read what I wrote, you will see that I said why would a barge survive at sea where a sailing ship would not. Another question. Do you even know what a barge is? I am guessing not. Are you trained in naval architecture? If not why should I believe your info.
The big thing is why do you argue things that you are not that familiar with. Naval architecture is not as simple as putting wood together, and throwing it into the water. The ark was flawed on many levels, and just because a few stats do seem to be functional, that in no way means the vessel was seaworthy. You have to be ready to back up your claims.
Obviously you don't know what a proof is. Pointing to a book and claiming it was written down by someone is no proof until you present some evidence from outside this book (aka the real world).
Wow...I find it hard to believe someone's "scientific" proof or evidence or whatever when they CAN'T EVEN SPELL!!!
bizarrebehavior1974 2 weeks ago
23. Or there is no physical evidence of a world wide flood.
Give me hard, empirical evidence, that doesn't rely on the Bible for proof, and then we'll talk. Until then, you're just speaking through your ass. Oh, and the "Appeal to emotions" is a bullshit tactic and makes us hate you further.
HimesInu 7 months ago
13. Science proves no man ever lived longer than one hundred an some years. And age doesn't equal being wiser. And faith based.
14. The animals would freeze at this altitude.
15. Bollocks. Science proves it and is faith based. Fail on both parts.
16. Which proves what?
17. And?
18. Bollocks. Why are 70% of marsupials on Australia? And science proves the opposite.
19. Plate tectonics. Read about it.
20. See 19.
21. Why don't we find mammals and dinosaurs in the same layer?
HimesInu 7 months ago
7. These "scholars" don't understand biology at all. And those bones of "giants" were either fake or the identity was mistaken.
8. Evolution doesn't work that quickly. Also, there is no such thing as "kind".
9. Based on faith, therefore redundant.
10. So why the fuck do we have insects, dolphins and whales, or amphibians?
11. No nostril breathing, land animal hibernates for more than three months.
12. Sciences proves this false, so BOLLOCKS.
HimesInu 7 months ago
!., These could be localized events, including the flood of Genesis.
2. Stupid.
3. Even if we go with creationist's estimates, that still puts 50,000 animals on the ark. Not to mention the food and water for all of them over the course of a year.
4. Look at the Titanic.
Oh, there is also the problem of altitude. The Bible says that all land was covered with 20 feet of water. This includes Mt Everest. If true, then everyone would freeze or suffocate due to low oxygen levels.
HimesInu 7 months ago
creationists lol.
NWOshill 8 months ago
I don't think you guys understand that rain does not create water, it only moves it.
AdvancedTraceur 9 months ago
It never fails to amaze me that so many people opposed to the flood come to a page as this with no intent but to spurt their opinions.If a person does not believe the flood a fact,why do you care enough to spend your time ranting to those who do believe?People forget God can do anything.They judge Him based on natural laws.He would not be supernatural if His works could be explained and agreed with normal laws of nature-Then you ask questions answered in this very video-You look utterly foolish
shotsxxx 1 year ago 2
Noah, the flood, Moses, Jesus, talking snake, etc. are all plagiarized in The Bible. They are stories created, 3000 years before The Bible was written, about Horus the Egyptian God. All the same stories are also in countless religions hundreds and thousands of years before the Bible was written. However, these stories were made to go along with the Zodiac calendar, not to become literal or a religion.
dtsbmx 1 year ago
this is dumb
theproperwhy 1 year ago
This video displays such a lack of knowledge and critical thinking skills I'm going to have to go back to school to erase the damage it's done.
But all joking aside, you're incredibly stupid.
I was annoyed until I saw white Jesus at the end, it's always good to get a joke in there.
PaulFace 1 year ago
im not even going to bother with the rest of this videos complete stupidity. it is obvious that the flood never happened anyone with a sense of intelligence knows this. and the video poster is obviously too stupid to think for him/her self and look at anything logically. people like this are so brainwashed by religion they dont see the mental gymnastics required to make sense of any of the idiotic fairy tales in the bible.
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago
-cont
not only are we far more advanced with mapping the genome, medicine and mapping the stars, our brains are actually larger then the bronze age man. also the longer life span is BULLSHIT if you added all the ages of noah, adam, moses, joseph and others according to when they supposedly lived then samual WOULD HAVE DIED 50 YEARS AGO.
9 if the highest mountains were covered by 20 feet of water then EVERYTHING IN THE ARK WOULD HAVE DIED FROM LACK OF OXYGEN.
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago
5 problem. speciation. there is in NO WAY enough biological material to continue a specie if only 7 pairs of any "kind" were on the ark.
6 so god had kangaroo's swim from australia to noahs house some 5,000 miles of ocean
7 wow all animals were herbavores, so why are there fossils of raptors (65 mya) who had teeth for eating meat. you must realize that carnivores CAN NOT DIGEST PLANT MATERIAL.
8 how in the FUCK were bronze age people smarter or more advanced then we are today? - cont
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago
there are so many WRONG points here that its sad.
1 people scoff the bible because of talking donkey's and snakes. no scientific claims are made in the bible
2 legends are just that, legend. just like the legend of sleepy hollow. legend does not equal REAL.
3 the ark could NOT hold the millions of species of animals and insects. not to mention the continent hoping noah would have done to aquire all the animals.
4 "may have had a moon pool? huh problem NO ARK TO TEST THAT HYPOTHESIS. -cont
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago
@PsychoSymantic good point because there is no arc you could pretty much say "the arc might have had super awesome vendi machine to supply food that never went out" because you cant disprove ther was cuz god can do anything....except exist :P
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
Another point. Would you rather believe science which says 'well, we looked at the possibilities and this is our proposed explaination which doesn't involve magic, if you come up with a better theory then I'm all ears' or the bible 'this is true, you must believe or burn in eternal hell'? Maybe read 1984 by George Orwell and ask yourself why the bible might scaremonger?
jimisjoint 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this. I'm really interested in christian psychology, that is - how anyone can believe something like the ark tale to actually be possible. This was a great insight. The part regarding the intra species super evolution required glossed over at the end of 8 was particularly interesting.
jimisjoint 1 year ago
points to ponder>> Where is the mud layer with all the dead bodies mixed together?
gregrutz 1 year ago
So cute - I was like this when I was 5.... so endearing that people actually believe this....(no maliciousness to my words... genuinely endearing)
So god magicked all the animals to WALK to Noah's house from all over the planet. He then magicked them to not fight. He then magicked rain to fall for a really long time...
Sheesh... Why couldn't he just magic away the people he didn't want without the need for all this hassle? Would have been easier.
sromag 1 year ago
@sromag Because the point of it is to be in his bible to tell a story that is true, but yet displays a bigger picture. Ill let you figure that one out.
being spiritually blind is why you couldnt see this.
jathomas901 1 year ago
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@jathomas901
Look... if it makes you happy then believe in whatever you like and be as sanctimonious as you like also... but don't try to reason it out if you can't string 2 neurons together to understand what a load of nonsense this is.
Apologies if that sounds condescending but it's truly baffling how creationists manage to close their eyes and completely ignore every shred of logic and repeat the same diatribe over and over again.
sromag 1 year ago
1.Where are these 11ft human bones?
2.How would you feed all animals after the flood, the enviroment might not go back for decades.
3How would he gather ALL animals? Eve the ones in Austrailia? The Americas?
4.How does 1 fmaily form such a boat? Even if they were big?
5.Where are the sedimentary deposits of a global flood?
6.How does 1 family repopulate the earth? Just a few thousand years before present?
7.Why dont other people live 950 years?
Illier1 2 years ago 6
How can each rock layer be laid down in a uniform layer?
THE BOTTOM OF A SHALLOW SEA.
Why are the fossils that are found in these rock layers found in clusters and often piles of differing fossils?
THEY ARE NOT, RIVERS PILE UP ANIMALS
Why are fossilized trees found standing up connecting many rock layers?
THERE WERE SEVERAL ASH LAYERS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
Why are some of these trees found to be up-side down or (inverted)?
THEY FELL OVER
gregrutz 2 years ago
All the salt water fish would have died from all the rain that came from,,, from....where did all the water come from.? Where did it go?
gregrutz 2 years ago
There is no geologic evidence of a global flood, none.
There is no evidence someone can live 950 years.
gregrutz 2 years ago
yeah, i guess the fact that most of the crust is sedimentary rock doesn't say anything, huh
31guitar 2 years ago
No, the rocks tell a story. The earth is very old and there was no flood. go look
gregrutz 2 years ago
the rocks contain fossils, fossils only survive in sedimentary rocks, sedimentary rocks are formed under water. Btw, Not all the fish died. Many species of fish are capable of surviving in both salt and fresh water. Also salt and fresh water dont mix due to different density. It is extremely possible and likely saltwater fish survived in pockets of salt water, same with fresh water fish. Many species of fish probably did die off though
31guitar 2 years ago
Where is your evidence? What is the name of the mud layer with all the bones in it from all the dead animals.
For the answers........watch
Noah's flood debunked 1&2
gregrutz 2 years ago
how do we know there aren't multiple. Where are the date tags on your rock layers? o, there aren't any
31guitar 2 years ago
One flood = one layer of mud with all the bones of the dead mixed together in it.
Does not exist.
gregrutz 2 years ago
please prove that multiple layers can't come from a lot of water in little time. There are plenty of examples on earth where things were formed in a short amount of time
31guitar 2 years ago
Great, there are plenty of examples on earth of things that were formed over millions of years.
Floods do not make distinct layers of different kinds of rock with different fossils in them. Go look at the rocks.
gregrutz 2 years ago
How can each rock layer be laid down in a uniform layer? Why are the fossils that are found in these rock layers found in clusters and often piles of differing fossils? Why are fossilized trees found standing up connecting many rock layers? Why are some of these trees found to be up-side down or (inverted)? Why are many fossilized forests found in the same rock layers? Why is there NO CONSISTENCY between consecutive rock layers throughout the world? your rocks sure do leave a lot of questions
31guitar 2 years ago
Why are many fossilized forests found in the same rock layers?
IT WAS THE SAME VOLCANIC ACTIVITY
Why is there NO CONSISTENCY between consecutive rock layers throughout the world?
BECAUSE THE GEOLOGY IS DIFFERENT ALL OVER THE WORLD, PROOF OF NO FLOOD
your rocks sure do leave a lot of questions
NOT IF YOU STUDY THEM
gregrutz 2 years ago
The oceanic crust of the Earth is different from its continental crust. The oceanic crust is composed primarily of basalt, diabase, and gabbro. The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick, and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust. Some of these less dense rocks, such as granite, are common in the continental crust but rare to absent in the oceanic crust.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You are dumb
Uberhilarious 2 years ago
None of this adresses much. Did the koala's and other marsupials from australia bring their food with them? did Noah bring the seeds to revive the decimated plant population? if the earth was covered in water for 190 days (days of rain plus days before it subsided) all the plants would have died. (besides, if it was over the mountains, no light would have reached them) And all of this neglects the worms, insects, fungi, and other creatures that would have been entirely wiped out.
satanisthetruegod666 2 years ago 2
So pre-flood people had computers? Did they leave any evidence of their intelligence to pass on to future generations? Why didn't Noah collect at least SOME of the "advanced" technology and pass it on to his descendants? I hate how retarded many christians can be sometimes.
hbgoddard 2 years ago
Idiocy. Idiocracy.
If humankind fails, your type will be the cause.
danimationmi 2 years ago
Point 6, many stones found in 1 place.
Yep, that definitely sounds like proof to me.
Point 9+10+12+14+15+18+23, by stating the Bible you are circular reasoning, big fail.
Point 11, completely true! Proves nothing however.
Point 16, and if the Earth was flat we'd fall off the edges.
Point 17, many people have claimed to see Elvis alive, the Loch Ness Monster and aliens.
However i believe point 21 says it all.
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
1. Wow, how a person can deny proof and evidence is beyond me.
2. How is that fail?
3. Actually, it proves that there didnt have to be so much food and not all animals had to be fed, which many atheists claim it was impossible to feed all animals each day.
4.The earth flat meaning small mountains, not flat like a pancake
5. Morons claim all that stuff, actual scientists claim to have seen the ark stupid ass
6. I get it, there is no point 21, but that was a horrible attempt at making a joke.
31guitar 2 years ago
1. Deny proof and evidence? This doesn't show proof and evidence, neither does the poster imply this does, he merely states 'Points to ponder'.
2. It's fail because it's proposing that the Ark was built using proof that has not been proved itself, that being the Bible being true.
3. It doesn't prove that the Ark story is true in its entirety I should've said then, it's like saying that because there were animals in that time, they could have them on the boat.
Damn 500 character limit.
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
1. If it only says points to ponder then why are you saying it has to be proof?
2.Actually the bible is true, all prophecies that have occured for real happened just the way the bible said.
3. No it doesnt prove the ark "story" but it does debunk a common atheist claim
31guitar 2 years ago
3. After the bad weather, the Bible says the water stayed for 150 days, that's how much food and water would have been needed then.
1. If atheists are to believe this they must have proof, not ponderances.
2. Exactly like the Bible said? Did the Bible say Hitler will invade Poland? Does it say JFK would be shot? Does it say that King Harold would be killed in 1066? Does it ever say anything that is not so vague in it's meaning to be a fulfilled prophecy? After many translations as well?
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
please show me one vague prophecy and show me why its so vague
31guitar 2 years ago
You misunderstand me, I feel there are no prophecies, just passages twisted so some people believe them to prophesise events.
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
Seriously? like the fact that it says king Nebuchadnezzar would lay seige to the city of tyre and that the city would never be rebuilt is a twisted passage? By the way, this actually happened the way the bible said, and although the place is inhabited (which the bible said it would be a place for fishing nets, meaning inhabited), it is not a rebuilt city
31guitar 2 years ago
That passage states that 'with the hoofs of his horses he will trample all your streets. He will slay your people with the sword; and your strong pillars will come down to the ground' amongst other things, however, Nebuchadnezzar II laid siege for 13 years, and never destroyed the city, they only compromised in the end, even the Bible says so, Ezekiel 29:18 says in part, '...but he and his army has no wages from Tyre for the labor that he had performed against it."
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
Actually, It never says it would destroy the city, but that many nations would attack like waves in the sea. But thank you for pointing out that even the bible said so.
Nebuchadnezzar did infact invade and destroy the mainland part of the city, which is what is read in 26:8, and thats exactly what happened, and ezekial prophecied that the rest of the city on the island would be destroyed by other nations, so infact this prophecy is true
31guitar 2 years ago
In Ezekial it also says in 26:19 that '...I shall bring up the deep upon thee, and great waters shall cover thee;'
That didn't happen either, the point is that the 'prophecy' of Tyre's destruction is false. Tyre was never destroyed and remains today.
TheGreatGandhi 2 years ago
The great flood is real no doubt it can disprove a lot of stuff evolotionist say to creationist
TheGreatestDebate 2 years ago
This guy has to regret ever posting these vids
LBTennis 2 years ago
Adding weight (anchors) really helps a boat float better. NOT
gregrutz 2 years ago
You're insane.
thirdLeg 3 years ago
From point number 8: "Animals have diversified into many varieties in the 4,400 years since the Flood."
Here he gives us a date to go by. This means we can use this date to experiment with. The First Dynasty in Egypt was about 5,600 years ago. It looks as though your hypothesis fails.
HalfDeath13 3 years ago
I'll admit that I didn't read all of your points, but I must say that number 12 was insanely stupid, and so is 13.
And how about the issue of mixing salt water amphibians and fresh water ones?
hpufo 3 years ago
Insanity.. Im not going to try to convince this guy he's wrong he's just too far gone.
But seriously these people must be stopped, we're not in the stoneage anymore!
We need to protect children from this mental institution.
Let them grow up religion free til theyre old enough to decide on their own!
Stop the brainwashing and hate games, and fearmongering.
Telling little kids they are going to go to hell if they dont believe in something is coersion and we should make it a crime!!
snobsy123 3 years ago
Waste of time. The first slide is an unsound argument for an empirical phenomenon. The rest of it is digressions and assertions with no verifiable proof.
Sardonac 3 years ago
Your logic is (MORE THEN) flawed and must be revised.Give me your numbers of the ark size and animals on it and food/water needed, and dont give me that crap about Noah standing 11 feet tall.
1 star
s11cmansiin 3 years ago
Your right they were smarter than us, then we had this point in history "dark ages" or "religious fundamentals running around calling science witch craft" thats when we got stupid. Point 15 thru 19 WE CAN MESURE THE RATE OF DRIFTING CONTINENTS AND IF THIS HAPPENED IN 300 YEARS YOU COULD SEE AFRICA FROM FLORIDA, we can see mountains form from the bottom of the ocean(underwater) to great heights due to volcanoes in Hawaii, thats how sedimentary rock gets up there.
s11cmansiin 3 years ago
Your 8th thru 13th points states "(seven of some)" Wrong again, seven of clean animals, two of unclean-(i thought that would be all the animals, boy was I wrong) bring seven of every bird(so birds are not clean and their not unclean WTF are they?) "This Diversification is not anything to great claims evolutionists teach" No its not, but one simple fact, millions of years not 4,400. "The pre-flood people were Probably" PROBABLY? i thought you delt in facts
s11cmansiin 3 years ago
Your 7th point states "Many Bible Scholars" said that man was bigger and therefore the cubits were bigger and the kinds of animals is smaller. Do you understand what you just did? You made the ark bigger and the animals smaller to fit your dumb hypothesis. My bible says scholars have est. 45,000 animals could have fit, without food or water
so Noah living 950 years, thats the real question not this flood, the flood is minuscule compared to Noah, lets see you explain that garbage
s11cmansiin 3 years ago
"over 500 flood legends from all parts of the world have been found. Most have similarities to the genesis account"
the similarties you speak of must be reversed, the story of Atum in Egypt, the story of many gods destroing the world every 1200 years in Babylonian times and the story of enlil of Assyrian myths CAME WAY BEFORE Genesis and that's just three I wish to point out, there are many more, so you need to edit the statement to "Genesis has many similarties to ..." and not the other way
s11cmansiin 3 years ago
No matter what you beleive that fact is
SCIENCE IS FACT
RELIGION IS MYTH
what more can i say?
Vimtox 3 years ago
Wow filmfans1961, how in the world have you been able to put your head that up your ass! Unfucking belivable...
killzone999 3 years ago
Okay so, before the "flood" ... people were bigger, smarter, ect; than people today?
Lol. So, god ended up dumbing us down after the initial "cleansing" of sinners?
What I don't understand is, the Bible mentions, before the flood every animal & person was a vegetarian & claims that the world was in harmony, yet, the whole purpose of the flood was to kill the sinners right?.. so who's to say there weren't meat eaters, sinning, all over the world as well?
Now youre just making excuses! :]
Jasexxxxx 3 years ago
True scientific objection ism would clearly lead you to believe that neither evolution or creationism can be proven and upon further data their is no ground for experimentation ergo the debate of evolution vs creationism can not be scientific as their is no way to test either model against the experimental model. They are both matters of faith.
kryptikninja 3 years ago
Evolution does allow predictions to be made.
Where would we find what fossil?
What DNA sequence should be located where?
...
Guess what, they tend to be accurate. Every bit of new information that has been found fits perfectly in the evolution theory and fully supports it.
The discovery of DNA is the biggest one. Until then, yes, evolution was more of a hypothesis, but then it was undebatably confirmed by DNA comparison.
If we compare this with creationist predicitons, they have a problem.
wimscheers 3 years ago
Any adult with an iota of education who takes the ark story literally deserves all the scorn they're sure to recieve. If you had even a glimmer of understanding of how ridiculous arguing this makes you look, you'd never show your face in public again. That you're not alone is no excuse. I try to be fair and polite, but some things are just so silly that argument by ridicule is not only justified, it's demanded.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 3 years ago
Are we talking 'education' or 'indoctrination'? Modern day education teaches evolution and a very anti-christian curriculum. The Christian student is forced to swim in shark-filled or is it atheist-filled waters? I think so!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Did I mean 'education' or 'indoctrination'? I meant what I said, 'education'. An even slightly educated person deserves scorn if they believe the ark/flood story is actual history, since they should know and think better, and so are "without excuse". An indoctrinated person, by contrast, is a tragic figure who can be expected to believe almost any nonsense.
Evolution isn't anti-Christian; it's empirical science. If a theology's claims are anti-scientific, too bad for that theology.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 3 years ago
Your 'empirical science' doesn't add up. Evolution is a dead issue. Creation science is proving the Bible correct and it just bites the evolutionist right in the ass!! The flood story is true and the evidence is irrefutable. Get an education, sonny and keep the faith.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
filmfans, it is simply sad to me that the fantasy that is christianity holds you, like so many other millions, so tightly. there is no evidence - none - that stands up to scientific scrutiny to prove a global flood ever occurred. i hope that one day the world is rid of the scourge that is organized religion (x-ianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, all of it) and we can focus on making the world a better place for those living here now. i'm sick of the debate -- god does not live; get over it.
thedude0866 3 years ago
Chech Ron Wyatt's discovery of Noah's ark. God does live. Too bad for you if you cling to this atheistic nonsense.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Ron Wyatt was a fraud and a liar; nobody believes he found the ark, or Sodom and Gomorrah, or the site of Jesus' crucifixion. Please remove your head from your ass and wake up; I'm embarrassed for you.
thedude0866 3 years ago
Don't be embarassed for me, moron. Y O U are just another godless fool on your way to the infernal regions. Wake up stupid and smell the coffee!! We are living in the end times and that means judgement is coming for horse's asses such as you. Atheists must count as one of the eight wonders of the world for their shear stubborness in rejecting their own salvation. Amazing!!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
you have it backwards. I have an education. I suggest you get one. You don't even know the definition of empirical science and yet you speak against it. "Creation Science" is an oxymoron. There is no evidence for the flood theory. The "evidence" you would point to was falsified as evidence and thusly negated itself. There is only negative evidence for God and the Ark. You have no leg to stand on.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
You have an education? What you have mandangalo18 is INDOCTRINATION not education! The faculty at the local college is paid to propagate the same lies over and over again concerning evolution. These atheists are afraid of the coming judgement and they should be. So should you, brother. But you have a choice: repent and turn to the Lord Jesus for your salvation!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
who is paying them to spread lies? The best Universities that give us modern medicine are spreading "lies" through medical science only possible because of the understanding of evolution? You sir, fail. Take a critical look at what you know. Whose knowledge comes through erudition of empirical science, and whose is from dogmatic expression? "Indoctrination" into science is an oxymoron. Science is completely objective, indoctrination is subjective and biased. sigh
mandangalo18 3 years ago
Nice try Einstein but the Lord knows more than the most educated arrogant bastard. Sigh.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
"and whose is from dogmatic expression?"- mandangalo18
Hi mandangalo18. What would you call a person who believes there is no deity?
And why are so many Atheists going around repeating that they have "non-beliefs" rather than beliefs? Where are they getting this nonsense from?
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
1. That would be called "strong atheism" refer to Wikipedia for a demarcation of the different types of atheism.
2. I suppose they are talking about things that they do not hold a belief in. Not believing in something is the default human state. Do you believe in Zeus? If not you have a non-belief in Zeus.
In order for a statement to be nonsense, it must fail to convey an idea. Since not believing in a defined entity is a clear idea, this does not qualify as nonsense.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"Do you believe in Zeus? If not you have a non-belief in Zeus."-mandangalo18
No. I actually believe that Zeus does not exist.
I have no need to parse words and play nonsensical games in semantics.
Why do you?
Is it because you want to attack others without having to defend yourself?
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
That would be called "strong atheism"-mandangalo18
"Weak Atheism"(implicit) simply implies that one has not "thought about beliefs in gods".
The fact that you would go around attacking believers and then state that you are a "weak" atheist to avoid a counter, quite frankly, "weak" is an understatement.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
I never said that I was a weak atheist. I am an agnostic atheist. Point out where I said I'm a weak atheist. You are telling LIES again. Avoiding a counter does not follow from stating a position. That's like saying someone states "I'm a Trinitarian" to avoid a counter to an argument about Islam. They are different positions. Please point out where I did. Otherwise you are spreading more LIES about me.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"I never said that I was a weak atheist. I am an agnostic atheist."- mandangalo18
No. That is just more Atheist word play to avoid scrutiny.
Then explain the difference between an agnostic-Atheist and an agnostic-theist.
And why would an agnostic-theist attack Atheists rather than theists?
"Point out where I said I'm a weak atheist."- mandangalo18
By implication when you said "that would be "strong atheism".
I don't really care what denomination you identify with. Stop attacking others!
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
"That is just more Atheist word play to avoid scrutiny."
NO. It's a definition of a position
"Then explain the difference between an agnostic-Atheist and an agnostic-theist."
Use a Wiki don't make me be your encyclopedia
"And why would an agnostic-theist attack Atheists rather than theists?"
I am not an agnostic theist.
"By implication when you said "that would be "strong atheism"."
NO. It was an answer to a specific question. Mutually exclusive things do not imply the other. *sigh*
mandangalo18 3 years ago
lol you should leave this guy alone madaglo hes made enough of a fool of himself you dont need to point it out
manofthehour690 3 years ago
"you should leave this guy alone madaglo"- manofthehour690
You should leave everybody alone. Stop attacking people because they different than you!
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
loooooool u have down syndrome or somethin? cuz all you have to say sounds like a down syndrome kid!!!lololooolooloolol!!!1111eleven!one1
manofthehour690 3 years ago
"loooooool u have down syndrome or somethin? cuz all you have to say sounds like a down syndrome kid!!!lololooolooloolol!!!1111 eleven!one1"- manofthehour690
May I ask, are you a professor at one of those prestigious radical left wing Universities? Sure sounds like it.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
"I am not an agnostic theist."-mandangalo18
How do you know? The point is to exhume some sort of critical thinking from you.
"NO. It's a definition of a position"- mandangolo18.
No. It is two definitions of two positions.
1) Atheism- Used to attack theists, especially christians.
2) Agnosticism-(red herring) used to avoid defending your Atheist beliefs. "You are despicable."- mandangolo18
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
if you have the capacity to form a valid and sound argument, then do so and present it to me. I will reply to a sound and valid argument. Otherwise, you can continue with your idiotic drivel until you turn blue; I grow weary of pointing out your willful ignorance and misunderstanding of language and logic.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"I grow weary of pointing out your willful ignorance and misunderstanding of language and logic."-mandangalo18
Likewise.
Why don't you leave people alone who are different than you?
Seriously.
Stop trolling.
You add nothing to the conversation by claiming to be "Atheist" to attack theists and then hide behind "agnosticism" instead of standing up for what you believe in. If anything.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
"I will reply to a sound and valid argument."- mandangalo18
Ok.
You are a troll.
I claim that you have nothing to add. You enjoy harassing and putting down those who are different than you.
Where am I going wrong Mr. "agnostic"?
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
"Where am I going wrong Mr. "agnostic"? "
Read a book about logic and argument and you will see.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"Read a book about logic and argument and you will see."- mandangalo18
Read a book about freedom of religion, which protects people from being attacked or harassed because of their religious beliefs.
Read the Bill of Rights.
Then look up "troll" in your dictionary and defend yourself.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
"The best Universities that give us modern medicine are spreading "lies" "-mandangola18
Do you mean the Universities who are hiring radical left wing Atheist terrorist professors?
"Professors" who use "global warming" doctrine to attack the right wing, as the world is cooling and entering the next ice age?
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
You are taking my comments grossly out of context. You are dishonest; stop misrepresenting what I wrote. I am not supporting the position that Universities spread lies. The way you quoted me makes it seem as if I actually held that position. You have nothing of value to say so you attack me personally through LIES? You are despicable.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"You are taking my comments grossly out of context."- mandangalo18
Stop being such a whiny baby. Everybody knows who's side you are on.
And nobody has attacked you personally with any "LIES".
Please!
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
Taking my comments out of context is dishonest. Saying that I said I am a weak atheist is a lie. You are a liar. It would seem you hold the position that pointing out erroneous information is "whining".
"Everybody knows who's side you are on."
no, they don't. Neither do you. You fail to grasp logic. Try formulating an argument that is rational. You will need to learn the principles of logic and fallacious reasoning first, so don't try right away.
mandangalo18 3 years ago
"Saying that I said I am a weak atheist is a lie. You are a liar."- mandangalo18
You claimed to be an Atheist.
Which is defined as "a person who believes there is no deity."
You claimed not to be a "strong" Atheist.
So I assumed you were claiming to be a "weak" atheist.
You then claimed to embrace agnosticism AND Atheism and then you started calling names.
As usual.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
Filmfans1961, I present you with one question.
Why is the Bible correct over all logic and reason?
56Rubix56 3 years ago
There wouldn't be logic or reason without God. Plenty of scientific foreknowledge is contained in the Bible. God is everything. Please don't put too much faith in the atheist version of logic and reason. Atheists know there is a God, they just refuse to accept Him.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
You're using circular logic here.
You're using the Bible to prove the Bible's correctness. That's as credible as saying that pigs fly because I said so.
Also, one does not put "faith" in logic and reason, because the two terms are exact opposites. Logic derives from empirical evidence, while faith works off of paranoid delusions of false hope.
You can follow your "faith" if it makes you feel comfortable, but you won't find answers.
56Rubix56 3 years ago
The Bible is divine inspiration not circular reasoning. It is more than just a book. The Bible contains prophecies concerning the "end times" in which we are now living. Check out Matthew chapter 24 and read all of it. In Matthew, Christ tells of His Second coming to put down some kind of calamity that can only be WWIII. In a third world war involving modern weapons, no life would be saved. How did He know? Only God could know this!!!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Why is the Bible correct over all logic and reason? - Filmfans1961
For the same reason that Atheists Dress in black and bury fresh meat to rot six feet deep instead of making jerky out of it for the winter.
"Some things ya just can't explain to those who already understand."- Yogi Berra
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
ooloololololo do urself a favor and dont comment anywhere again ur too retarded to argue with anyone about anything
manofthehour690 3 years ago
Hi manofthehour690. How are you today?
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
have faith. the bible says that when jesus comes back non believers wont understand how because they proved him to be fake but he shall break all the scientific laws of this earth. it doesnt say that directly like in a verse but its in there somewhere lol. have faith
snapascrew 3 years ago
and why should I believe the Bible?
mandangalo18 3 years ago
your mind already seems to be made up. have a wonderful day. and if im wrong and your mind is not made up, maybe believe it because what is written down in there that they talk about israel is happening right now to them. that is what really convinced me.
snapascrew 3 years ago
#12 ,, all were vegetarians ??? where the fuck all the veggies come from ??? god ship em down ?? when will people just simply stop being so fuckin stupid?????
guahould 3 years ago
exactly, if everything ate veggies we would not have any true carnivores today, there are lots of animals that simply cannot digest plants they would all die,we would only have omnivores today. 11 foot skeletons? prove it. if it only took a few thousand years to move continents into the position they are today, why did the plates slow dow so drastically? The whole bible is stupid, it has no place in this world other than weird fairy tales for adults.
tjmcawesome 3 years ago
Large size skeletons and human artifacts such as cooking items, pots and tools have been found in the coal seams of the world; totally blowing to hell the theory of evolution non-sense!!!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Who are you to refute the Lord you God? Maybe it just takes a little faith, eh fella?
filmfans1961 3 years ago
"totally blowing to hell the theory of evolution non-sense!!!"
Prove it, lets see it. Show me the scientist who wrote up the findings and submitted them to a reputable peer reviewed scientific journal the the findings were corroborated.
"Who are you to refute the Lord you God? Maybe it just takes a little faith, eh fella?"
Or maybe it doesnt. Why rely on faith when we can rely on reality, evidence and truth?
itry2brational 3 years ago
The evolution theory is kept alive on publicly funded life support. The story of Noah's ark is evidenced by the ark site in Eastern Turkey, petrified wooden beams and iron rivets and all! Ron Wyatt, an amateur archaeologist may not have had the education to make him prominent in the science journals but he had FAITH. It must have generated considerable jealousy in academic circles.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
"It must have generated considerable jealousy in academic circles."
More like laughter. If this is the same guy I have heard of, then yeah, it was laughter.
Found this gem on Wiki: "His claims are dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars and most Christian leaders even in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church, but he continues to be quoted (especially on the Internet)."
itry2brational 3 years ago
2:41 The bible says the highest mountains were covered by 15 cubits of water.
2:47 The large mountains we have today did not exist until fter the flood
2:58 There is enough water in the ocean right now to cover the Earth 8000 feet deep if the surface of the Earth were smooth.
This is priceless
thecommonsenseguy 3 years ago
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youtube . c o m /watch?v=Q88r9jUarCc
thecommonsenseguy 3 years ago
You're using circular logic : The Bible says God Exists, God (in the bible) says the bible exists and is proof of him, ergo both must be true.
Using the same 'logic' I can say "This book says I'm God, I agree with the book, in fact, this book is proof of my godly existence". All I have to do is show you the book and you MUST accept it as true.
ZarathustraDK 3 years ago
The only good thing in this video is the music -_-
Terrencje 3 years ago
# 1, You do know those stories are coming from heathens right?
# 2, Point taken. No point really to refute.
# 3, How did Noah collect ALL the animals in time and not have them die?
A point here. EXPLAIN THE CHEETAH. The Cheetah is basically screwed. We can take and do skin transfers from Cheetah A to Cheetah B with no problems. That shows how messed up they are. Source: DonExodous2
watch?v=rIlWKp44T50
Good luck refuting.
Pawn2King4 3 years ago
"18.The continents were notseperated until 100-300 years after the flood (genesis 10:25) the people and anumals had time to migrate anywhere on Earth by then"
HAHAHA yes, continensts only take about 100 years to seperate, at this rate im surprised we havent collided with China yet.
thecommonsenseguy 3 years ago
Another video with copied Hovind arguments. This is getting old.
The11thgrape 3 years ago 2
Wonderful video, I will be accepting the response. The video I am working on now is very similar to this one.
5/5
AmI2Hvy4ya 3 years ago
Dont even bother saying the Qu'ran is more accurate book, when in a matter of fact the qu'ran is a direct copy of the bible, written about 300 years after the bible, its took some bits out and added some in completly irrelivent.
kornissues9 3 years ago
True, but them laws were only meant for high jewish rabbi's, when jesus came he stopped them laws because they were too hard to keep, it says so in the new testament, although some still apply to us e.g not to mark the body with tattoo's etc.
And i'll ask again, what passages that the bible suposedly "got wrong", there probably metaphoric yes, but i dont know what "passages" your on about.
kornissues9 3 years ago
Such as? And yes it is sinful to be Gay. Theres more scientific Things in the bible aswell such as Blood is the source of life and death, [we thought sick people should be bled], free float of earth in space [we thought it sat on a large animal apparently] theres more aswell.
All right passages against science, tell me a few, i'd like to hear them.
kornissues9 3 years ago
Please tell me, verse aswell where it says you should kill non believers and not eat shellfish, im intrigued.
How? It states facts that back when it was writted we did not know, e.g, the earth being round [we thought it was flat], inummerable stars[we thought only 1,100 stars], air has weight[we thought air was weightless], light moves[we though it was ina fixed place], wind blows in cyclones[ we thought winde blew staright]etc etc.
kornissues9 3 years ago
I keep on typing "Writted" for some reason, sorry i mean "Written".
kornissues9 3 years ago
Your so-called facts are here say,,and not in the bible. read the bible for yourself, don't rely on what someone heard that it says...
If you want to do a web search try "the Bible said first"
gerry37g 3 years ago
A lot of these facts are in the bible, a few of them for example the moon pool and the anchors are assumptions but assumptions with a high probability. Facts such as the animals came to him, the contients and mountains did not form until after the flood etc are in the bible.
kornissues9 3 years ago
"Facts such as the animals came to him, the contients and mountains did not form until after the flood etc are in the bible."
Those are not 'facts'.
itry2brational 3 years ago
How do you know? Were you there?
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Mutatis mutandis. Would you care to prove the flood myth then?
itry2brational 3 years ago
why dont you type "Why do people laugh at creationists?" in the search bar and start watching those videos.
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
If god wiped out everyone for misbehaving then why doesnt he start a flood. oh yea he promised he wouldnt. How convenient? The bible was written to explain what the people could not explain. Someone sat down one day and wrote a story about how earth was created and fools like you take it to heart. "god" has his work cut out for him whenever he decides its time for "Judgement". the bible it nothing more than a story and should be treated as such and nothing more. And no sir i am certaintly not 10
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
Actually nothing in the bible has ever been proven wrong, its 100% accurate, science even confirms the bible, it has scientific facts in it that we wouldnt believe until we had techonolgy to prove it right, its a book that was written by different people who lived 100's of years apart from each other different backgrounds and everything, and it still fits in all together, perfectly, So dont tell me "someone sat down and writted a story", i know more than you on the subject.
kornissues9 3 years ago
Im rational and believe things that are true. I dont take someones word without proof just like i dont read a book and assume everything is true simply cause a religion follows from it. You even doubt yourself when you say "i dont think there was anything there to start lowering our life span". I apologize if i struck a conformative nerve of yours. God is so easy to defend in an argument because he is "almighty". he is only mighty when he chooses to be. Why doesnt he cure the disease and poverty
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
Yup, only atheists are rational and everyone else on the planet is stupid for not being atheist. If you honestly think this you have fuckin mental issues. I mean when you have to ask why bad things happen then you really don't know anything. You could honestly fuckin google that question
31guitar 2 years ago
atheists tend to be a rational lot and they often point out when and where other people are not, but to say atheists believe no one else is rationional is a strawman of atheism. I have met many christians who were rational, but they used their rational minds to try to explain things which cannot and aren't supposed to be rationalized.
And bad things happen, because bad things happen. atheists ask, "if there is an omnibenevolent god, why does he let bad things happen so often? (not verbatim)
satanisthetruegod666 2 years ago
Dude, your name is satanisthetruegod666, and you're calling yourself a rational thinker? Is the whole world going insane?
31guitar 2 years ago
Dude, your name is 31guitar and you're discussing theology? Is the world going insane?
No, the above is not my actual opinion, I don't care what people call themselves there are backstories. And just becase I made a mistake at one point in my life i get attacked all the time. Besides this is an ad hominem attack. You only attacked my handle, not my arguement.
I hope my above statement about your name shows you how stupid and petty what you said is.
satanisthetruegod666 2 years ago
how can you even attack my name? Yours worships evil while mine is nothing more than my interest. Yeah you made a mistake and you're shocked that people attack you. Nobody will really forgive you for your mistakes in life, thats how humans are. Only one person can forgive you for that, you know who that is.
31guitar 2 years ago
"No, the above is not my actual opinion"
did you not read that part of my message????? I was showing you that attacking someones name does nothing to discredit their arguements. I am actually used to it and not surprised in the least, I just think it's sad that no one considers what I say, only my handle, it's really sad.
Next time try thinking before you type.
also, consider, how many does god kill in the bible alone? satan?
they actually counted, god is responsible for far more deaths.
satanisthetruegod666 2 years ago
You forgot about scientists, who cares what athiests think.
Facts prove the bible wrong, again and again.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You're right, i am more an atheist. Take your blind fold off. Your a puppet for some book. It seems to me that 64 years is more believeable than 900. The human body just doesn't last that long. stop picking and choosing what god does and doesnt do. So god creates man but its mans fault for disease. Just stop. You put 6 billion people together and of course somekind of disease and poverty will arise. Of course there was less disease thousands of years ago, there was simply less people to be sick.
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
If Harry potter was written in place of the bible if people would follow that too. So if god is all forgiving why does he committs the biggest act of GENOCIDE ever recorded. There is just too many holes in the bible just to blindly belive in it. They even had to write a second testament to cover what they missed. Come on now. Even if an 11 ft. tall man could live longer how the fuck does that explain a 950 year life span that is stated in the bible. Most people cant even reach 95 years old.
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
You sure your catholic? Sound a lot like an atheist to me. and again i hate ignorant people. do you know how much diseases man has now? how much decay and poverty we have as time goes on, at the beggining of time i dont think there was anything there to start lowering our life span, not so long ago the life expectancy of a man was 26 years old, they could say the same thing back then about how we live to 90, so whats to say we didnt live until 950? You seem like a 10 year old, mentally too.
kornissues9 3 years ago
Watching this makes me ashamed to be catholic,i dont belive a word in the bible or the book of Genesis. It is so easy to say that god can do anything and thus making anything you say about god true. If a doctor told you it was healthier to shit out of your mouth, would you try that to? Please dont post any religious videos on youtube. Just the sentence about being ignorant if you dont belive is ignorant itself. If u take a closer look at the bible all u see is a stack of paper.
atomicfallout246 3 years ago
How did 8 people manage to feed, water and clean out the shit after that many animals?
from what iwe seen animals usualy gets restless from bad wheather + they where stacked in pens aboard a boat something they never would have done before. Animals gets spooked by new surroundings. And your wentilation system would not work. water going up and down in a central shaft would not feed fresh air down, it would only push the air a bit up then suck it right down again.
knusern666 3 years ago
Where did you get this nonsense about the ark being a barge, and thus could survive the time at sea. Most of the stresses from hogging and sagging are due to wave motion. Only way to eliminate these are to eliminate waves. That is impossible. there are many other problems with the ark structurally as well, but it could go on for pages. Information such as this comes from people who desperately want it to be true, and don't mind lying to those with no background in the field.
quedorf 3 years ago
Eurgh, where did you get this nonsense of the ark not being a barge? Did you know from the ark measurements that the first ever ship was built but only abit smaller? That ship has been recorded in history, from the bible's measurements we have ships today, so please, dont come to me saying theres problems with the ark.
kornissues9 3 years ago
Why do you think that the waves care that it is a barge, or v bottomed vessel. It doesn't. What do they do about temporary ballast. What do they do about non-continuous hull sheathing. And as far as the ark being a barge. if you read what I wrote, you will see that I said why would a barge survive at sea where a sailing ship would not. Another question. Do you even know what a barge is? I am guessing not. Are you trained in naval architecture? If not why should I believe your info.
quedorf 3 years ago
The big thing is why do you argue things that you are not that familiar with. Naval architecture is not as simple as putting wood together, and throwing it into the water. The ark was flawed on many levels, and just because a few stats do seem to be functional, that in no way means the vessel was seaworthy. You have to be ready to back up your claims.
quedorf 3 years ago
Funny how the Egyptians in their continuous records from the period never mentioned a global flood.
fail.
mrAndersen72 3 years ago
Proof, please.
Johannes9126 3 years ago
Proof of what?! it's all in the video :S
kornissues9 3 years ago
Obviously you don't know what a proof is. Pointing to a book and claiming it was written down by someone is no proof until you present some evidence from outside this book (aka the real world).
Johannes9126 3 years ago