Face The Nation, 11.22.09

[Dagney77]

17 trillion in debt = death panels.

Yes, death panels.

[BlameRepublicans]

too bad you have zero proof supporting your cunty post, you fuck.

[warningfireexit]

Think of it like humanitarian aid for Americans. You know people don't debate giving aid to Africans. Fuckin we got to debate this shit. It doesn't make any fuckin sense.

[warningfireexit]

All I know is healthcare in America is fucked up. Ma gets sick in another state because of her cancer and her insurance won't pay for it. You got to get sick only in your state... you can't like visit your relatives for Christmas. That's fucked.

The government doesn't ass fuck you, otherwise you'll revolt.

So if competition leads to more coverage at a lower cost. Good. People shouldn't die for having low cash flow while we provide humanitarian care to other countries.

[BriansVideoHobby]

Explain to me why we need to spend a Trillion dollars to insure ten million AMERICANS who can't afford health insurance and don't qualify for current programs. That's 100,000 a person.

[jwv651]

I hate Bush,Clinton,Obama and poor people...now give me my freedom Damn It!

[stewscum]

Both of these assholes are talking points machines

[1911arthur]

They continue the slaughter of 44,000 great Americans every year just because they are working poor.

Some of our American brothers and sisters who they killed are on namesofthedead web site along with the horor they suffered at the hands of the Republican Party.

Yes, Republicans hate americans when they are poor as they have nothing to offer for them, no profit.

They do love foreigners though as they vote BILLIONS to them each year! Just not Americans. They want you to die if you are poor.

[BlameRepublicans]

Republicans destroyed the economy under Hoover, and FDR saved us. Bush rigged the elections to kill the Clinton boom. Now the racist fucks in the nazi right want to blame Obama.

[DrunkenPublicness]

Still haven't bothered to watch "Frontline" I see.

[DrunkenPublicness]

Washington can't even agree on how many uninsured Americans exist, yet you pull this figure of 44,000 out of thin air and try to sell people on the idea that every single one of them are victims of the system.

I wonder how many of these 44,000 souls are simply victims of their poor choices and unwavering love for pork rinds, Mountain Dew and Lazy-Boys.

[BriansVideoHobby]

And how many are illegal? The super rich? People who simply choose nicer houses or new cars instead of health insurance? How many are already qualified for other programs? The answer is almost all of them. There are only about 10 million Americans that can't afford insurance and 85% of Americans like what they have. We're spending trillions why?

[DrunkenPublicness]

While nobody can possibly know the real numbers, history tells us that government and the MSM will always will add or subtract numbers to make everything seem more dire.

We spend trillions in order to support the agendas of special interest. That is why people like Obama receive $1.7 million in campaign donations from the healthcare insurance industry.

[BlameRepublicans]

Remember everyone - the GOP has murdered 5,000 troops, 3,000 civilians on 9-11 and another 2,500 in the wake of Katrina. The republicans are the enemy. Remember the Clintonboom? I do. Who ruined it? THE REPUBLICANS.

[TAMARLANE]

Everyone? How many imaginary friends you got there Blame?

[BlameRepublicans]

Sorry shit stain - I'm a free thinker. An Atheist. you can go suck cock in Church if you want but luckily my parents protected me from your voo-doo dog shit jesus.

[1911arthur]

Republicans like the way the Emergency Rooms are right now, you know, primary care units for the working poor. A sea of misery.

What an embarrasment. Is this really America or some 3rd world country?

Look at any emergency room in in city and tell yourself, is this what I want to continue?

If you do, your a Republican. If you don't your a Democrat.

[TAMARLANE]

Republicans? We don't got no stinkin' republicans. They all bailed out of the party and became independents during the last two years of Bush's Presidency. No one like the way emergency rooms are forced to be primary care for poor people. You are just lyin' and shuckin' and jivin' and peekin' and hidin'.

[DrunkenPublicness]

By your improper use of the word "you're", it's obvious that you're simply an idiot, incapable of proper grammar or an intelligent debate.

[smileluver]

Schumer is lying. I can see it.

[smileluver]

(England) NHS denies 'effective' cancer drugs due to cost - Health News ...

All rationed systems eventually try to reduce costs.

[smileluver]

That 44,000 number is wrong. It should be less than 20,000. Also, fewer people die in America from having no health care insurance than from England's rationed health care ( greater than 25,000)

Rationed health care eventually tries to reduce costs by decreasing the number of advanced medical treatments. That has happened in Canada, England, etc..

[TAMARLANE]

Democrats sy this health care bill they re touting will insure 94% of the populace. That would be 18,000,000 people uninsured. These liars aren't very good at their own trade.

[BlameRepublicans]

Well we all know you are full of shit, so just what you Nazis have to say is unimportant. You fucks had your shot and you destroyed the Clinton boom. Go back to whatever septic tank your whore mother moron father climbed out of. THANKS!

[TAMARLANE]

I must give you credit for being far superior to me in gutter language and thought. I don't go there much. However, when it comes to honesty and critical thinking I am light years ahead of you.

You are definitely one of the worst motherfucking cocksuckers I have encountered on Youtube.

Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

[DrunkenPublicness]

Once again, you're lying through your teeth about Clinton's economy.

[BlameRepublicans]

Moron - we all remember the Clinton boom time, and the bust time with bush. Your little lie here is not holding water. Oh wait let me guess the "liberal media" made the economy only look like it was booming? Fucking idiot!

[DrunkenPublicness]

The bubble was created before and during Clinton. Brooksley Born warned Congress, Greenspan, and Clinton's cabinet about the inevitable collapse (OCT derivitives, specifically), to no avail.

What happened in 2008 was the direct result of Clinton, Bush etc. not listening to stern warnings from people in Washington who knew exactly what they were talking about. You are an ignorant douchebag for believing otherwise, and much too dumb to present an intelligent debate.

[dantheleo]

It's amazing that anyone would listen to Chuck Schumer as if he knew what he was talking about. Chuckles "the clown" Schumer has been called out for all his lies and unconstitutional ideas. He is a danger to the Republic and needs to be voted out of office!

[smileluver]

England doesn't cover many good medicines:

Google:

"Kidney cancer patients denied life-saving drugs by NHS rationing"

"Another cancer drug too dear for Britain: Bowel cancer victims "

"Women denied cancer drug that could extend life"

[1911arthur]

Go to any Emergency Room at any hospital in America and see the sea of misery the Republicans want to continue.

It's embarrasing. The Emergency Rooms have turned into primary care units for the poor working class Americans.

Vote out of office every Republican as they do not care about Americans,only money. They have become corporate whores. We all see it. soon, the party will have no people left. They have sided with the devil and he always loses in the end.

[1911arthur]

You can read some of the 44,000 put to death by the Republicans on thenamesofthedead web site. It's so sad,some of the stories of Americans, who were killed by the corporate whore Republicans only because they were working poor.

Republicans now have American blood on their hands.

They have proved themselves as anti-american,anti-christian,u­ncaring corporate whores. They only love money,not Americans, so these American deaths are insignificant to them.

Sad. I'm glad I'm not a Republican!

[robrigo80]

Im not a republican nor a democrat. And I am sad of the 44000 deaths of americans without insurance. I just think there are other ways to ensure these people have the best chance of survival. Before Medicare was enacted doctors used to give away care for free for those who could not afford it. There were privately funded charitable hospitals. But when Medicare & Managed care began to cut reimbursement to doctors for care, they were forced to make it up with volume. Thus free care was gone

[BlameRepublicans]

You fucking full of shit. You stipd fucks voted for Bush and fucked the nation up and now you cowardly cock suckers won't admit it! Fuck you useless cunt. Shut the fuck up. You've lost you right to an opinion until you fess up and admit you are part of the problem. THANSK!

[robrigo80]

1) I never voted for bush, I voted for gore and kerry. And I didnt vote Obama either, I voted libertarian

2) the country has been fucked up since the turn of this century

3) why are you so angry? -- I will not get into a name calling pissing contest with you. You really have made no valid points. Let me ask you; why has the cost of lasik surgery declined every year of its existence? How about breast augmentation declining as well? Could it be they are paid for by cash?Free market at work

[robrigo80]

The constitution was designed to restrain the federal government. Nowhere does the constitution give the federal government authority to regulate healthcare. No human being has the right to another humans labor. Healthcare, like it or not, is a service, a service provided by your fellow americans. There are better ways than more government to drive down healthcare premiums.  Competition of insurance companies across state lines. HSA expansion. Tort reform. And much more.

[BlameRepublicans]

This lie of "less government" is all shit. It was not the intention of the Founding fathers. Corporations have brainwashed you to repeating their mantra.

[1911arthur]

The Republicans voted 100% to kill 44,000 fellow Americans just because they are working poor yet they vote 100% to give Billions to Israel so their citizens can have Government health care. Then vote more Billions for Iraq, so they can have new schools and mosques. Then more Billions to outer space and the moon?

They now look like total Blue Cross whores who hate Americans but love those foreigners!

Of course, they will ship your job overseas for an extra nickel profit, or pimp their mothers

[TAMARLANE]

Carefully calculated 44,000 to die. Those who will die are all bullshit progressives, like yourself who need to be separated from their Godforsaken lives. Go stand in the dead pile ignoramus.

[BlameRepublicans]

Angry little coward all mad? Aww poor little pussy. ;-(

[TAMARLANE]

Angry little pussy all mad? Aww poor little coward.

[stophypocrisy]

This whole debate is a dog and pony show for gullible Americans. We will be required to buy shitty insurance or face heavy fines or jail time. This is about continuing to loot Americans that are barely making ends meet while the insurance companies (middle men) stuff there pockets full of our cash and continue to deny coverage. You think you are covered but I will tell you every American that doesnt work for the government or multinational has very little coverage, you just don't know it yet.

[doston1]

The only debate is between the corporate interests and the american public. Any American that isn't super wealthy should want a public option, and does. There's plenty of public support, just no political support. That is why we live in a broken democracy. The people's will is never followed, actually, most of the things people really care about aren't even on the radar...worker's rights, fair wages. Stuff that really affects people. Instead we get to debate fetuses and fags. BULLSHIT!!

[BlameRepublicans]

There are only two types of conservatives.

1.) The Rich

2.) The Dumb

[TAMARLANE]

Progressives have it all over consrvatives. There are basically four types of people. Smart, dumb, active and lazy. The smart active ones make excellent field officers Tthe smart lazy ones make excellent staff officers. The dumb lazy ones make good privates. The dumb active ones (progressives) should be shot.

[jimpodi]

i still don't understand why it's necessary to have govt competing against insurance to drive down cost. why don't they have insurance cos competing against each other? this can be easily achieved by allowing people to purchase insurance plans across state lines.

[doston1]

@jimpodi.... or allowing the govt to stop insurance company price fixing, which they do. They're exempt from price fixing laws with drug companies, other insurance companies, etc. Lieberman is only in favor because he has the most insurance interests in his state, but with people's health, it should probably be a govt run ins program the govt is currently barred from negotiating better deals with drug COs, which is ludicrous and unprecedented. Corporate interests as usual.

[iamagiantseaturd]

Singapore here I come!

[HemiHead66]

Who the hell set up this half-ass system of Government where you're allowed to buy a senators vote? This is where all of the "PORK" comes from. Every time these assholes pass a bill it costs taxpayers millions. And the Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. In a few more years these clowns will have this country finished off. And it won't be because of our healthcare. One year of Military spending could almost cover this 10 year bill. Add in the PORK - and you've got the bill covered.

[BlameRepublicans]

Until enough Americans die from the rich man's greed nothing will change. It boils down to waiting on the right wingers to finally sprout some balls. That's not happening anytime soon.

[HemiHead66]

If they haven't figured it out after 3 Republican Presidents with record deficits and job loss - they'll never figure it out.

[okefixico]

The pointy-heads in DC trying to ram this commie crap care need to be horsewhipped until they renounce big government. Enough is enough.

[BlameRepublicans]

Shut the fuck up serf. You don't like America? Fuck you.  Move to Mexico where they have "less government".

[okefixico]

I love America. I hate the little homos like yourself trying to turn it into a third world bastion of communism. You are in the minority, little turd.

[BlameRepublicans]

No you dont love America. You hate America. You are an insignificant piece of shit. Ive killed people in defense of America. Have you? I just need the legal mandate from my President, and would love to kill *real* enemies of America the right wing greedy pig cowards like you. Prove your "love". Give me your name and address.

[okefixico]

I am prepared to kill domestic tyrants who are mucking up the constituion. Thomas Jefferson himself said the the tree of liberty needs to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Who knows more about the intent of the constitution, the people who wrote it, or the deluded dumbasses like you and your boy in the white house? Please humor me with your nonsensical response.

[BlameRepublicans]

Moron - have you seen just who is President? It's you who are in the minority. Your failed agenda was soundly rejected by America. You *talk* all sorts of trash but I've actually killed in combat in Iraq. You are a silly hump.

[ILIADsOdyssey]

The crap that was passed under the guise of healthcare is anything but

DONT PASS this CRAP!!!

It increases costs and the death panels are back.

[BlameRepublicans]

Anyone else get a laugh from the GOP whining about mammograms? They're so interested in making sure women have their mammograms they fight the rform to do it tooth and nail.

[HemiHead66]

Yeah - I got a laugh from the GOP whining about mammograms. Since when do the GOP give a shit about women? They've always thought of women as second class citizens. They won't even give women equal pay for equal work on the job. They're lying Hypocrites. I think the only reason most of them are against abortion is because they want to keep those profits flowing. Just one more person to keep buying useless shit for.

[Zile77]

Sucky Schumer is just another librul liar trying to get more control over people's lives, and this time it's about having say over who lives and who dies!

The latest Rasmussen Poll Reports Only 36% of the public now favor this bill. That's down from 47% just one week ago. No wonder Sucky is so pissed!

Hey libs, you and the damned government can get the hell out of our lives forever! Move to Russia or China for your socialist dreams, idiots!

[Francebrasil]

Go to Walmart and keep on buying your Chinese socialist goodies!!!!! IDIOT!!!!!!

[MrCondorandino]

Senators Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) Does make sense. Go public option and health care for all !!!!

[1911arthur]

Republicans vote 100% to kill 44,000 Americans just because they are poor, yet vote 100% to give our Billions to Israel so their people can have 100% government health care for all their people. Then vote Billions to send to the moon and outer space?

Republicans love money, just not Americans.

Who are the good guys here?

[HemiHead66]

Yeah - aren't they Hypocrites! They also fund Israel's Military. They pay the Iraqi's to stop fighting. Spend billions to rebuild Iraq, and everything is just sitting there because the Iraqi's don't know how to use the equipment. They fund the Pakistan Military and give them aid. Now they want to rebuild Afghanistan. What a bunch of lo-life shit-bags we've got running this country. The Military Industrial Complex and pet projects are more important than our healthcare. They're the socialists.

[BlameRepublicans]

let's not forget the 5,000 the Republicans lead to slaughter in Iraq.

[DrunkenPublicness]

Too bad for your party that Democrats also supported it, huh? Hillary Clinton comes to mind.

[100days2bestseller]

"we all know that there is waste, fraud, abuse, duplication, inefficiency...." Is he referring to the CONGRESS? yes we need to get rid of this guy and all the other thieves in DC.. including Obama.

[megarational]

3) So the GOP says that the pubic option doesn't guarantee you could keep your own insurance.

Answer: You have no guarantee of keeping your insurance even now. a) As premiums continue to rise more & more employers are switching to cheaper plans with less coverage & higher deductibles & co-payments. b) as h.c. premiums continue to rise more Americans will be unable to afford them.

Also: CBO est.s only 3% of the pop. would be on the public option, so that doesn't really impact most people.

[megarational]

So the GOP says they have only 2 objections to the public option. 1) "might lead to single payer". Answ: If it's this much trouble to get even a modest pub. opt., why should anyone fear that a single payer bill would pass both House & Senate". 2) "The gov'.t would be both player & umpire". Answ: any insurance co. rules would apply equally to both private insur. & pub. opt. insur.

3) (see continuation on other comment)

[megarational]

The good ol' GOP, doing what citizens want. Of course the GOP says the 60% to 70% of Americans that want the public option can go fuck themselves.

[WillmaticVideo]

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