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  • Anyone who thinks WoW raiding is too easy. Got a protip for you.

    Disable Healbot. Watch difficulty skyrocket without that popular cheat.

  • Cata did make WOW easier.... the parts were harder but added up and got nerfed....so it became easy because it got nerfed.

  • daddys got u :)

  • wow, i dont recognize you at all lol

  • lol the epic nerd hair lol

  • WotLK was the expansion that was too easy XD

  • THE HAIR

  • His hair is so short!

  • Guys WoW is easy, if WoW had any difficulty, all the noobs would fuck off. None of the elite players are fucking off because they're already hooked.

  • DAT HAIR

  • lol you've come a long way since March, eh Lore? ;)

  • If you're saying cataclysm isn't making wow to easyy

    then you are obviously retarded :D

    this game turned to shit when wotlk came out

    thenn.. cataclysm just made it pathetic

  • @mageslol Are you retarded? Have you done any of the heroics/raids? They actually take skill bro, it's not anymore AoE and burn and oh yeah, bosses actually can kill with their mechanics....

  • @Dillv40 Haha... Kay so then tell my why the first raid was already beaten on 25man heroic...?

    and why someone is able to level from 1-85 in 5 hours rofl

    This game is a joke and so are you xD

  • @mageslol Umm they were able to the same reason people always were able to, and the guy that got from 80-85 (due to the fact going from 1-85 in 5 hrs is impossible) was reset

  • @Dillv40 Yeah right... you obviously never played TBC or Vanilla

    and even still 5 hours really?? to get to 85 thats garbage

  • @mageslol Umm yeah I've been playing since vanilla actually if you must know, and I'm going to have to think you haven't leveled since at least wotLK considering that the first 85s were being hit 8 and 9 hours after the game launched, NOT 8 as you seem to think. Learn to research your arguments before you blindly fight with someone who knows whats up.

  • @Dillv40 NOT 5* Bah I hate mistypes.

  • @Dillv40 I highly doubt that xD

    and its 5 the record is 5 hours 80 - 85 in 5 hours sorry you don't know whats up lolz

    and even if you did ...I'd just laugh at you more just for that fag comment xD

    congratulations you'd know whats up on something gay and gives you no life

  • @mageslol Nah not really I play WoW in my spare time I just happen to be able to keep up with stuff, the fact you have to insult me on my life, which you know nothing about, shows that you really have a pathetic existance, either way, I'm done arguing with a kid so yeah w/e

  • @Dillv40 lol you lose x)

  • Talent tress....N--ot really. You do have to occasionally put one or the other point in a talent wether you want it or not, just to get the next tier open. It does give less choice and favours cookiecutter speccs.

  • I remember wiping on 25 man patchwerk multiple times....

  • @KyanisSunweaver I can make random statistics too. If blizzard catered to the elite, the would lose 2% of their player base, and -1% of their money. Checkmate.

  • lol i'm bandage spec too

  • /facepalm

    Yes Wrath was way too easy. Everything outside of Ulduar, 2 bosses in ICC, and Halion was utter complete faceroll.

  • BANDAGE SPEC! FOR ROGUE! GIEF! Omg that would be so awesome

  • Meh I dont know I still think tanking is a big pain in the ass depending on the group you have, I swear Ive gotten groups who tell me Im positioning a boss wrong and tell me to move me to move him to position x and then we wipe again and they still tell me Im positioning the boss wrong. I think raiding is as hard as your group is unfriendly or incompetent.

  • Cataclysm....HARD try killing the first boss in Stone Core could take around 1 hour.

  • lol in Wotlk when icc was released during 2 months time we made a 25 man pug and one-shoted 10/12 bosses on normal i been there 2 times since the release my role was a tank and i still do not consider myself to be a hardcore pro -raider in conclusion that means that Icc was too easy...

  • damage? ppfffft, im bandage spec!

  • well Lore... around 5 mins u asked if 30% buff will make bad players faceroll lk.... u said it wouldnt happen it did.... alot :(

  • Who the fuck thinks Cata is making WoW easy? Have u been playing WOLK for the last 2 years? Do you remember what CC is?

  • @deathblad13 you should hear people on Private servers playing 3.5, they have never even played Cataclysm and they say it's easy lol. I agree leveling is easy, i know for a fact most of them probably did there first Dungeon in cata and bailed out back to 3.5 and call it easy and that's why they quit, just because they have been calling people Noobs for the last few years and when it finally comes down to skill they end up being the noobs/Nubs, Working together ? whats that.

  • @deathblad13 Have you played it when it first came out? Doesn't seem like it...

  • is cata. making wow to easy?short answer,no.long answer nooooooooooooo.. XD

  • @ BloodAndThunderRetr Sorry... you sound like the most elitist player I've ever seen... and this is YouTube. Try saving it for the game at least, tough guy.

    Polish THAT turd.

  • @DracosBlackwing I think you are reading too much into it man, I've been playing for 4 years plus - so yeah I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, but I'm not elitist - I'm just stating the facts, Elitists to me are those people who think they are top shelf just because they are skilled but lack in personality and manners to match. You give me a raider with a good personality and willing to learn and shows results, I'll show you a great player.

  • PvE died when WOTLk made ICC pugable

  • what a loser

  • thexpacs became easy because at that time you know your toon from the previous patch. its called experience that makes it easy

  • NIGGA im bandage spec...

    HEAL A BROTHA XD

  • lol bandage spec

  • vanilla players think bc was easy, bc players think wotk is to easy and wotk players will think cata will be to easy.

  • @murvan91 lol i doubt about wotlk players.

  • @murvan91 yep

    the whine will never end

  • dude you kill me,

    ciderhelm, "no matter what lore says, i am not in the hospital"

    i think we should be best friendsd

  • @KnightQuickness72 Oh also, I said satirical. I did not say sarcastic.

  • @KnightQuickness72 I can sense it fine.

    Oh and yeah, it's sense not sence.

  • cataclysm will show everyone who the bad players are seriously.

  • @shadowmanksx

    nerd alert

  • WotLK raids were easy shit compared to BC

  • @KnightQuickness72 You knew what I meant. If you didn't realize I was being a satirical smart ass YOU'RE retarded.

  • Fuck blizzard for taking out Path of the titans.

  • @KnightQuickness72 you have 6071 gs and do 14k gs. I don't get it.

  • "Click the prettiest button thats lit up" - lol, love my ret.

  • Paths of Titans is going away. Oh well

  • @ryderawr If wow was so easy, then no server would be bad. and if wow really was so easy, then nobody would have a problem gearing

  • i love how all these comments are saying WoW is too easy, WotLK ruined WoW, Pre bc was the best. This completely isn't true. Take a brand new alt thats dinged 80 last night to the realm Shu'Halo and see how easy to get geared it is. To this date we still have few guilds that have downed the LK, we have the worst trade chat spam of 12year olds fighting, alliance (which i am) gets WG once about every 4-5 days. It's not easy, just try to do it on this realm and then say it's easy.

  • This is absolutely right. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this way.

  • bandage spec lmao

  • LMMFAO ! 1:50 bandage spec lol

  • Stats simplified?Fine by me...as a new 80, it wasHELL for me to understand stats. "Do i use armor pen with spells?it says ranged crit +52, i am a mage therefore i am ranged right? Is Resil okay for raid gear? Only Pvp? Can i use a pvp 264 to replace a 213 with bad stats? It has all my stats i need,but it has spirit and or mp5 so its caster gear? Do i use attack power or spell power??Arent spells technically attacks??Why would i gem haste,it barely does anything right?" Twas very confusing :P

  • No, everyone haven't killed Lich King yet, but they've still accomplished to ruin all the other raids beside Icecrown. What good is raiding EoE, ToC, Ulduar, Naxx, OS when you can achieve better gear from heroics?... Blizzard simply managed to make us raid one raid over and over every week. I think that's why people are so sceptically about Cataclysm.

  • @ProletarPumpkin but you didnt use to be able to get better gear from heroics, it scaled, which is very good, means the people who were lvl 80 at start of wotlk have done all the raids through and through, but the ones who get there later dont have to farm hcs and raids for 6 monthes to get to the latest one

  • "Daddy's got you."

    creeeeppy.................

  • for 1.... if ur standing in fire then u fail... for 2 running to a boss doesnt increase ur dps?

  • @19twinkmanftw No, but as an example, ToC, fighting Icehowl melee DPS and tanks get thrown back, you lose DPS while not being able to smack his face, the move speed buff would allow you to get back to the boss that much faster, allowing you to DPS sooner and therefore increase your overall DPS for the fight.

  • @19twinkmanftw No, but as an example, ToC, fighting Icehowl melee DPS and tanks get thrown back, you lose DPS while not being able to smack his face, the move speed buff would allow you to get back to the boss that much faster, allowing you to DPS sooner and therefore increase your overall DPS for the fight.

  • @MaTTiMeX Well. Blizzard has said themselfes that they're very unhappy about how the gearing system is. Tbh. i think they will even delay Cataclysm if they can't get that to working the way they want. im not sceptical about Cataclysm. as i've watched most of the new landcapes in the Friends and family Alpha. i would not be That sceptical for things to come.

  • pffft no damage pfff im bandage spec LOL!

  • PLAY YOUR FUCKING GUITAR FOR US! i have seen that damn thing every vid and if im going to have to look at it, it might as well make some noise

  • what they need to add is a raid finder like the dungeon finder. Imagine finding ppl for a raid in seconds

  • @doomsday800 all blue geared 80's joining radom raid for icc.....that will work...

  • hmmm - Tanking* not taking .. sry

  • LOL BANDAGE SPEC

  • NERD!!!!!

  • heroic 10man lichking is downed.

  • Stats dont make a player good? Dude, everyone knows top gearscore is top dps

    /sarcasm

  • Lore,you are my idol.

  • LMAOOOO "PFFFTTT IM BANDAGE SPEC" HAHAHHAHAA FUnny shit

  • i dont even think raids take good players. I knew so many bad players who could raid simply because its all strat. Written out and took very very little reaction. I died on wow about half way through wrath. finally hit 80 months after release did ulduar when it was the hardest thing out there and quit. grind rinse repeat isnt tht much fun anymore.

  • LLMMFFAAOO !! "im bandage spec"

  • From what I have gathered about Cataclysm, they are not making the game "easier" but they are making it more generalized. By doing this, it will give every player the potential to see the "end game" raiding content. However, like he said, there still will be bad players. Along with the content you will see that yes a lot of guilds can take down the end game content. However, it is another thing to take it down on heroic. Good players can do this. Bad ones cant. End.

  • Haha

    Short Answer=No

    Long Answer= Noooooooooooooooooo

  • So what your saying is that anyone that has 232 gear is automatically a baddie - even if they are a casual but know how to play their class? Please tell me you aren't that short-sighted.

  • 1:43 to fun!

  • World of Warcraft is EASY if:

    You know your spec/glyphs

    You know your rotation

    You know how to react to raid mechanics

    What makes it hard for good players are dumb players that can do none of those things. You can't polish a turd to be something else - it's still a turd. You can't put lipstick on a pig and want it to be something else - it's still a pig.

  • @BloodAndThunderRetro ANY game is easy if you: know how to play it right. thats obvious. ppl saying WoW is easy are ONLY saying that because they now have a handle on how to play

  • @seshysama knowing how to play is probably 10 % of dealing high damage / taking well / preventing ppl from dying in warcraft in my oppionion. The other 90 % is actually managing to execute what you know, which i would say from personal experience (pugging / guild raiding - Runetotem - Eu) is a quality that around 1-2/25 ppl have... (i'll do the math 4-8%)

  • @wyadevil91

    pff 90 %??

    little bit of experience+decent computer and connection= good wow player(or pc gamer)

  • @sjuffel83

    this coming from a casual

  • @BloodAndThunderRetro only reason its easy is because every new player can skip all the raids to T9+ and makes for more bad players which in turn blizz says ok sorry lets give u a 30% buff in ICC so u can all do it

  • @Thugmonk06 I feel your pain. I think everyone deserves a shot, but if people put out the kind of coordination to beat the encounters, then it's only their own doing. Control the outcome, plan ahead, and study your encounters and you can win.

  • @BloodAndThunderRetro

    That's PvE. PvP is a diffirent story.

  • @BloodAndThunderRetro PvP is hard :>

  • @BloodAndThunderRetro I agree.

  • Paragon of Lightning's Blade killed the Lich King on Heroic at 11:28 March 26

  • Nobody can tell me heroics arent fucking easy right now. NOBODY@!!! They hand out epic gear like its candy.

  • @freshtendrills They always have been hand out epics

  • They havent "always" handed out epics. Running BWL and ZG wasnt "handing out epics" Hell TBC didnt "hand" em out. It was def easier, but it was still a challenge. All im saying is blizz has started really bad habits with wrath. You shouldnt be able to aoe zerg a heroic. If they change it in Cat, most of the player base will fucking lost. Its gonna be shit for ppl that can play.

  • @freshtendrills

    Only baddies care about 232 gear.. OH!! and the 2-3 pieces 245! Seriously who cares?

  • I care cause these fucking idiots come from heroics and dont know how to fucking play. My god dude, this community is fucking retarded.

  • @freshtendrills

    If a person's bad he's bad no matter if he's done old raids before or not.

  • @Rolgnart exactly some people just arent great at certain things.

  • It's already too easy. There's no struggle. All content before ToC25 is obsolete, you'll have no use for anything that might drop before ToC25.

    Doing fucking 5-man heroics (that they've nerfed even though gearlevel has increased) is SO PHUCKING BORING. I stopped playing in early december last year, I didn't even need heals while tanking 5 man HCs, me and a Frost DW DK 2-manned several HCs. I've seen Blood DK's solo HCs, 2x arcane mages doing old kingdom hc etc... Yet they keep nerfing 5-mans?

  • its quite hard . my guild is cinda good but we only downed lichking with 1 of ouer 3 10 man groups and have 2 bosses left in 25 man. so no its not to easy

  • <3.

    end.

  • Sure buddy, whatever u say. I see you found the caps lock key. Good for you!!!

  • wow is an easy game to play.. but its hard to play WELL, people think gearscore is *OMG U HAVE A GS THATS OVER 9000!!!!! UR AWESOME!!!!! and they do 500 dps... good players are ones that can be lesser geared and do more damage than the other geared guy because they know their class, they know whats going on and where they need to be for stuff

  • I think that the changes coming with Cataclysm are going to bring WoW back to what makes Blizzard games Blizzard games: Simple complexity. At least that's what I like to call it. I often use the example of chess. In chess you have just a few different things to learn, but the depth of the game is such that even in the centuries that it's been around, you can still see something new. That's my thought on the direction.

  • My jesus fucking lord, you are so shit full of "failure". Lay off the fucking caps button fuckstick. Now that you can aoe your way thru heroics, shit stains like yourself certainly think the games better. You didnt get fucking close to vanilla, and prob dont even know what bwl is. Your a fucking tard, and your losing at internetz!! deal bitch!

  • lol I'm damage spec!

  • no but youre gay

  • Hallelujah. I'm getting tired of all the "ITS TOO EASY BOOHOO" whineage. If you claim the only thing Blizz cares about... well, ever heard of this company called EA?

    That said; what WOTLK did was make raiding more accessible to people who aren't completely hardcore. And hardmodes exist to keep them happy. And personally, I am very glad that they make gearing up easier - I just dinged 80 on an alt that now might actually have a chance to see anything past Naxxramas 25 before Cata gets released.

  • "ppphhhh, no... i'm bandage spec!" lmfao

  • pre-bc was the best WoW.

    BC ruined it, Wotlk ruined it and theres no doubt in my mind that Cataclysm is going to ruin it. I'm glad I stopped playing this game when I did because all the old school players who still play this game tell me that Pre-BC was hands down the best time for this game..

  • skill level wise BC wasn't even that bad tbh, if I remember correctly Kara,ZA,BT,Sunwell,& tons of others weren't an easy walk in the park. WoTLK was awful you're right, any scrub can farm heroics all day and get good gear.

  • You're right BC was not the end of wow. BC heroic 5 mans were still a really good challenge, heroic shekketh halls was a bitch. CC was still required. You couldnt just mindlessly aoe everything like you do now. Higher end raids are still def tough, but most of the pop still doesnt get to even 25 man icc. They mostly grind mindless hours in shit heroics or low end 10 mans. Hell Kahrazan wasnt easy. Blizzard has started really bad habbits with the player base. And once you make it easy,no goingbak

  • ummm....whats wrong with bandage spec O.O!! you know...not that i am one! >.>

  • When many of the older players think about difficulty in World of Warcraft over the years, they most likely thing of progression if the form of tiered dungeons. LK eliminated tiered dungeons and and put the focus on encounters and badge upgrades. The game world itself mostly suffers (skipping content, no attunement, gear level decided on gearscore instead of epics and stats) but encounters for the most part still stay interesting and difficult. Cataclysm won't really change anything.

  • Dont be an idiot.  It partially IS in fact stat/gear/talent changes. But for me, the difficulty isnt in character changes. Its the difficulty and environment of the dungeons. Things like cutting down the number of times Svala does her sacrifice or things like that.

  • I'd rather do Naxx, EoE, OS, Uld, Ony, TotC and get geared the real way than do Heroic Dungeons all night and be bored out of my mind. Not to mention Heroics Dungeon are too easy. If you're going to make us only raid the latest raid, at least make the Heroic Dungeons a lot more challenging. I was able to down Halls of Reflection in a one shot the day it came out. Sure it's hard to retards but it was a joke to me.

  • i completely agree...

  • I disagree, this game has gotten so easy and boring that I just refuse to play it anymore. I sold my account and until Blizzard can stop being cock suckers, I'll stick with other games from now on. Seems like all they care about is the money they get from casual playing aka people with jobs/careers. Money > Gamers GG

  • Wotlk made it too fucking easy.

    232 epics from HC instances, what a load of bullshit this expansion is.

  • Well, those HC instances that drop those you have to be decently geared before hand, you can't just go in them with a team full of quest greens and expect epics like you think.

  • You said we haven't seen a HC lich king kill yet, Method got the heroic lich king on 10 man down 3 weeks ago.

  • PPFFFF... Im BANDAGE spec.

  • ok good vid, but you are just ugly as all hell

  • @ChickenAP11 i bet trolls are too.

  • Simple =\= Easy.

    Granted some may say that due to the lack of the complexities of gearing and the changing of stats make the game easier, Gearing and choosing which stat is more important isn't something we play the game for. We play the game for the fights, be it pvp or pve. None of that will change. If anything, the new stat changes is going to educate people on what they need to stop failing in raids.

  • please enjoy responsibly

    took me some time to find it this time :>

  • Bitch you didnt touch wow in vanilla. If you even came fucking "close" to the supression room in BWL, you wouldnt be making a fucktard statement like that. The games easier, and all cataclysm is trying to do is reset a lot of the convoluted bullshit in the game now. They need to just reset to fucking 60 so I can ass rape ur gimped ret pally "faggot"!!??....

  • Pfft DMG.. PFFFFFFFFT Im speced to heal and im a rogue whats wrong wit that?

  • Lolz Im Bandage Spec

  • Warcraft is an easy game. Real gamers smoke the MAJORITY of content. You do not define the difficulty of a game by it's least common denominator.

    Is it "too easy"? No, and it will not become so. When every mouth breather in the game has heroic Deathwing on farm, you have achieved that point. Not happening. Most guilds I have tried still get flustered at Gluth and Heigan dancing.

    Apparently many people cannot look at the entire scope of WOW and see this simple ass concept.

  • ROFL!! Bandage spec!! LOOOOOL!!!!!!

  • Hey ur right the same can be applied to magic the gathering is not just using the cards u own it's but it's how u use them i mean theres no point to have a jace enless u know hot to use him. the point im trying to make is ur right ppl shoulndt jump to conclusions that just because things give u more advantge dosent make the game play easier.

  • wotlk = too easy. end.

  • lol the end

  • yes the game is easy BUT what makes the game complicated and difficult is idiots and noobs that doesn't read shit doesn't understand shit just go there and face roll everything! that is why the game is NOT easy!

  • Hey dont diss bandage speck i can heal a whole raid :D

  • @celitrias. thats why they have hc mod on the raids

  • Pfffftt no!....im Bandage Spec! lmao, that made my day.

  • hahahahahaha,

  • wow has been easy since burning crusade was released

  • Link Lich king Harmode achive then Mr.Rossmage

  • Uhm, the game have been to easy since WotLK is released. There will always be good player and bad players. It's the content that's to easy!

  • The game wasn't hard before WotLK, players just weren't as informed as they are now. There wasn't many, if any websites that would hold your hand through encounters, specing, your optimal rotation, etc. Those weren't around in vanilla until very late and started coming to the forefront until people started nearing the end of TBC. Then you have to look at how the game was designed, which was for people to wipe over and over on gearcheck bosses. There's nothing fun or hard about that.

  • you name me a SINGLE business whos sole business model is to alienate their 'legacy' members (the people who are the sole reason they are as big and powerful as they are today)

    there isn't one.. except blizzard

    and why? cause they can, cause we let them

    cause for every 1 hardcore that quits.. there are 50 mouth-breathing window-licking retards just waiting to take your place, that could tell you what 'line of sight' is to save there lives.

    so grats casuals, grats terribles. rejoice!

  • Ok, how about every retail business in the world. Their sole purpose is to bring people in. they strive off getting a crap load of customers to buy things on a regular basis.

    Why would they concentrate on the customer who already buys $500 worth every visit? they're already getting that crap load of money, and bombarding them with new ideas will only scare them off.

    NO. they need people in the door. the $500 customer is already here, what more can you do? Blizz is much the same.

  • it happened slightly in BC.. it started to landslide in LK.. and now they arn't even trying to hide it anymore with cataclysm.

    soon youll just be able to log in, hit the 'LEVEL ME' button then go and visit some goblin in your start town for your 'FREE GEAR' wich will then port you directly to whatever dungeon you will want.

    its sad. its pathetic.

    blizzard got lazy

    blizzard got greedy

    harcore players suffered, and continue to suffer

  • cry me a river.

    WoW is now a casual-friendly game, more people can play it and enjoy it, just because virgins like you where farming for weeks to get a single item dosent mean that everyone else should be a no-lifer like that. get over it.

  • @ruffwm oh who cares

  • oOo___oOo

  • [Check]Do more damage

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  • He is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world he gave His one and only son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life"

    there's a heaven and a hell......there's your personal saviour.

  • >implying WoW was ever not easy

  • nerd

  • nooooooooooooooooo

  • blizzard: rogues you wanna do more dmg ??

    rogues: dmg bfff am bandge spec lol

  • @wowplayer00 win

  • I bet the people who are saying "WoW was good pre-BC" are the same people who stood in SW by the AH and Bank to show off their purples that no one that had a life could get.

    It's much better now that a new 80 can spend a couple weeks casually farming heroics and catch up to end game. Even then though you still have to prove yourself.

    The hard core still have their hard modes why us that only have 6 hours a week to raid can at least say we experienced the end game content.

  • Great job Lore =)

  • Wow is to easy, someone playing for years wasn't as good as i was in 2 months, i was better geared, better guild, and a better raider, and it was so easy to find out how to do fights, they are so straight forward, there needs to be some algorithms or something that changes the encounter and the main attack of the boss each time so it chances always, or else its the Same loop each week, Raid -> Wait and do heroics, Patch Raid Heroics, got bored of this, it's like watching this video 1000 times

  • lool "pffftt nooo im bandage spec" lool

  • I prefer bannanas....