Well, there you have it, the purest proof - poor Salieri didnt have a chance against Mozart - they don't stand comparison, really: Salieri's composition is "well-crafted" at best (though you notice it does not nearly flow as beautifully as Mozart's music), while Mozart's composition is pure genius...
Adorably ,splendidly spiritually pacifying musical work! As I am suffering and am devastated from 3 illnesses at the same time ,this admirably calming musical work act on me so pleasantly!!! Thank you Salieri for creating this so deeply spiritually pasifying musical work !!!
There are superficial similarities with Mozart,but there are few surprises-no moments where i am filled with a sense of wonder.
At 3:57 there's a stunningly beautiful sequence (cycle of 5th?),but it rather laboriously gets repeated in exactly the same way. It feels like a formula.
This isn't a version of Mozart's Requiem, this is an entirely different Requiem by a different composer. I see why you would think it's a diff version, but yeah, no.
@hello152984 No, that's fiction. Mozart's Requiem was commissioned by a nobleman, Count Franz Walsegg, who wanted to use it as being his own composition for his deceased wife. The man who appeared to Mozart with money was a steward of the count.
@ffyfan15 first off all, that was a joke my good man; salieri and mozart hated one another, supposedly ending up in a salieri murdering his rival; same as pac and biggie, with tupac getting shot by biggie smalls. second, if you listened properly to any of their music is alot deeper and heartfelt than shit about bitchs and hoes, thats just the stereotype for rap music. stupid niggers? not really.
@ffyfan15 i did say supposedly, didnt i? i dont think much of it tbh. but eh, tupac, studied shakespeare and poetry at a 3rd level... thats off the point anyway, as if their education had to do with it at all; i made a joke, you responded to it like an absolute nerd, like fair enough for correcting the dates i had, but honestly, taking it personal like that really makes you look like a faggot
@ffyfan15 im not going to comment on anything in that (in the interest of not opening cans of worms) post but the comment about mozart being a dick. I don't think that would be my choice of words, but yes he was a very arrogant man and thought of most other composers as trash and that his pieces should be the ones getting commissioned because he was a superior composer, almost as if his way of writing music was the only way and no one else's was worth listening to.
@MilchundSchokolade13 There is a new recording: absolutely beautiful on SACD, label = Pentatone: Antonio Salieri (1750-1825) Requiem in C minor (1804) Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) Meeresstille und Glückliche Fahrt Op. 112 Franz Schubert (1797-1828) Intende voci (Offertorium) in B flat, D 963 Coro Gulbenkian Chorus Master: Jorge Matta Orquestra Gulbenkian Concert Master: Mihaela Costea Conducted by Lawrence Foster PTC 5186359 DSD recorded
The original piece was written in memory of the executed king of france Louis the XVi. Louis was believed by many to have been a kind and compassionate King and when he was executed by the french revolutionaries even factions of the Revolutionaries were against it. so this was written in his memory.
Most recently the "Requiem" has been released by the Gulbenkian Chorus & Orchestra on modern instruments, directed by Lawrence Foster for the PentaTone-Label. I own this new recording and it's really worth listening (& buying).
As far as Beethoven being deaf goes, he was composing for many years before he became deaf so he had an excellent understanding of what each instrument/note would sound like in his head. (eg think of the requiem scene in amedeus, its more of a dictation process. Not a jam like bands would do these days!) my point being you dont necessarily need to be able to hear. Secondly, I think Salieri is medicore compared to Mozart, but if he had lived in another time he would have been much more respected.
It's a certain known fact that Beethoven himself (a student of Salieri) said thet Salieri was a very loving and appreciative person: He found it absolutely impossible that Salieri colud harm Mozart. Despite, he respected Mozart deeply for his unbelievable talent!!
If the story in Amadeus is true, then this might be the reason why the masked man delivered the message allegedly written by Salieri to Mozart asking him to compose the Requiem to see if his composition of Requiem could be surpassed. Mozart did it great although he wans't able ti finish the masterpiece. Salieri, however, is one of the best composers of his time.
The only reason this is even here is thanks to Peter Schaffer and Amadeus. Salieri's very mediocrity has saved him from obscurity - something his talent clearly could never have done. Mind you, it isn't as conspicuously ordinary as the myth requires - just a bit uninspired.
Why would you call this mediocre? This is well crafted art. Just because a movie had him calling himself midiocre doesn't mean that he was. He was good enough to instruct Beethoven and Liszt.
what most people tend to discard is the fact that Salieri was the master of his time. in vienna his music was the music that was played. it was him who people believed would have his music played more than 100 years from then... it's sad he's such a back drop.
Thanks for uploading this music. After watching Amadeus, I became curious about Salieri's music. While I don't think he comes even close to the depth and emotional substance that is Mozart, I hardly think he was a mediocrity as Amadeus has presented. His music, in my opinion, isn't genius level, but it's not garbage, either. He has composed some nice stuff!
And right you are. Truth be told, complexion in music is not the element that should define beauty and ingeniousness. This Requiem is truly magnificent.
To create the perfect irony, i have it in my play list after Mozart's Requiem, Agnus Dei
@Thrax1982@mariaimmaculata It's probably the recording of the Concertino Notturno Praha / A.Kroper (on period instruments) which was released on a czech label and which is currently unavailable except in the czech republic.
There may be another recording by the BBC Chorus & SO, but it was only broadcasted, not released in any form.
@mariaimmaculata It's probably the recording of the Concertino Notturno Praha / A.Kroper (live on period instruments) which was released on a czech label and is currently unavailable except in the czech republic.
There may be another recording by the BBC Chorus & SO.
Most recently the "Requiem" has been released by the Gulbenkian Chorus and Orchestra on modern instruments, directed by Lawrence Foster for the PentaTone-Label. I own this new recording and it's really worth listening (and buying).
sin duda mozart es mi compositor favorito pero en mi opinion este parese mas un requiem que que hizo mozart, aunque no digo que el de mozart no es bueno,
Arder voglio a quella face, che mi strugge, e che mi piace: e a mio gusto, a mio talento amar posso e disamar. Su quel libero volere, che nell'alme il cielo imprime, il destin non ha potere che lo sforzi a non amar. Arder voglio a quella face che mi strugge, e che mi piace: e a mio gusto, a mio talento amar posso e disamar.
I think it should be considered in its figurative meaning, that is, "humble requiem". As you read in the following part, he defines himself "piccolissima creatura", "very humble creature"... (sorry for my English ;D)
I think I saw it mentioned in more than one place, so likely yes. On the other hand I haven't seen the original score so I can't confirm what exactly is written there :D
while i appreciate that salieri was a great composer, this requiem really just doesn't do it for me. it just seems a bit emotionless? and after a few minutes, you're sort of left feeling no different to how you were when you started, and i don't think that's how music should be. the great requiems, in my opinion, are the ones that just about move you to tears. but i guess it's open to personal interpretation.
haha quite possibly. i have no problem with him being happy and putting this into his music or whatever, this requiem is just not one of my favourites.
I love the tone of this requiem. Its not too overly dramatic as often Mozart's and Verdi's tend to be. You can honor people dying perfectly well without making the music nearly apocalyptic. This is beautiful.
Otherwise I have no habit of blocking people for insulting me. People can say whatever they like about me but don't attack other users and the performers.
Salieri's work DESERVES more of the prominent light of his contemporaries and highly esteemed pupil's, including such greatness a Beethoven and Franz Liszt (who some believe to be the greatest pianist in history) and even Mozart's son was pupil to him.
è significativo che dopo il 1804 salieri praticamente smetta di comporre. il 1804 è l'anno della quinta di beethoven, allievo di salieri... se salieri la sentì, dovette capire che il suo mondo era ormai disfatto. significativamente la sua ultima composizione importante è un requiem. è il guaio dei compositori di transizione: il loro mondo gli muore davanti agli occhi: o spaccano tutto, come beethoven (ma ci vuole talento e voglia) o si ritirano dignitosamente
Ma Salieri, nonstante la sua lunga vita, era un compositore della seconda metà del '700.
E rispetto alla sua epoca (che era appunto quella) era e resta un compositore luminoso e pieno digenio, come questo meraviglioso requiem dimostra a pieno.
infatti! lui appartenne a quella seconda metà del 700... l'extra di 20 anni che gli fu concesso di vivere nell'800 sono stati appunto un periodo in cui non ha scritto praticamente nulla, perché i suoi tempi non erano più quelli. Laddove Beethoven... comunque hai ragione: questo Requiem è il suo capolavoro. C'è un'intensità ignota al Salieri prima maniera.
Noi italiani dovremmo avere più rispetto per i nostri artisti, anziché farci rimbambire dall'hollywodismo di film alla Amadeus.
Quando in Italia apparve quel film, notavo che un po' tutti quelli che lo videro ridacchiavano di Salieri come compositore da strapazzo, che Mozart aveva il diritto di sbeffeggiare, senza capire che in fondo in quel film c'è molta irriverenza per l'Italia.
d'accordissimo. ma del resto, milos forman non ha colpa: lui ha solo fatto un film. sono giunto alla conclusione che in salieri egli non fa altro che ritrarre noi, ciascuno di noi, la nostra umanità inferiore, gretta e meschina, che davanti a questi geni inviati da chissà dove non sa far altro che provare odio e invidia. certamente il salieri vero doveva essere più sereno. tra l'altro in amadeus non fanno sentire nè il requiem di salieri nè certi passi delle danaidi che... aaaahh, godimento
salieri spesso aveva presentimenti. le sue opere buffe hanno dei tocchi rossiniani. l'overture delle danaidi ha un momento beethoveniano all'inizio e non solo. questo requiem riecheggia il primissimo romanticismo - comunque non è più classicismo in senso stretto, credo.
Credo sia giunto il momento di restituire al genio di Salieri ciò che merita.
Basta con le stupide leggende, che tanto hanno fatto male a Salieri e forse un po' troppo beneficio hanno portato a Mozart.
Tutti devono sapere che il finto antagonismo di Mozart sul compositore italiano (presunto medicore musicista) è la personificazione della reazione tedesca all'egemonia della musica italiana nel '700.
Mi perdoni Signor mysterious,avevo mal interpretato i suoi coomenti.Lei,difendendo la verita' storica,si estranea dalla massa che giudica un compositore su pregiudizi e non sul valore delle sue opere,come e' il caso per Salieri.Come puo' il Signor o Signora alistone sostenere che un autore porti sfiga!ma questo e' un clima da vera caccia alle streghe!
"Perfect" music is just an opinion, there is likely no such thing. Salieri and Mozart were no revolutionists, both played much in the style at the time. I don't see how Salieri could be anymore 'naturally gifted' than Mozart. Yeah, his father taught him, but no composer goes anywhere without teaching.
But Salieri has the physical, and the psysical, mean more natural... If Mozart writed operas than young, it's just because his Dad, was VERY hard whit it, and very early in age. He obligated Amadeus to become what he becamed. Salieri did had not a fahter like this... So the destiny helped Mozart, but Salieri was naturally gifted. It,s not a quesion of age you know. If you are 30 oldyears ,by exemple, and gud on the moment, it prove that you're born with it!
Ok Mozart was the best. But Salieri was REALLY perfect, and Mozart copied his style, and the one from bach and Haydn... Salieri is born with is talent, like Beethoven or J.s Bahc. That's the TRUTH!! Ok, now we can saiy that Mozart won by his very hard work, but... ;) Listen it, it's perfect, totally !! Nothing to say more! He his a genious too!!
I think it's the opposite, Mozart was writing operas at an age where Salieri was net even allowed to compose yet because his teacher thought he had not learned enough.
Ok, Mozart was BIGGER, and he worked A LOT MORE on his music... ;), but antonio Salieri is a natural born talent, creator and composer. He had the style in him, he had the physical, everything that Mozart did'n't have naturally but learned VERY hardly by his father's help. And no, Mozart music is not perfect, it's desiquilibred sometimes... To much for nothing, sometimes very stupid, NOT perfect.
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Mozart could compose music - entire SYMPHONIES - in his head. I don't believe there has ever been another composer like Mozart who could accomplish this genius-level feat. On that basis alone (ignoring the fact that he composed numerous pieces when he was just a child) it puzzles me that you could imply that Mozart wasn't as talented as Salieri. I think it's clearly the opposite. I wonder what you basis of comparison is other than the music we hear. Read any biographies?
Aren't you forgetting about beethoven? who wrote the best symphony of the history while he was totally deaf. I don't like to compare especially because I love mozart. but i could exchange 40 of mozart's symphonies for only three of beethoven's
well, many scholars say that's romantic myth. Mozart could work out musical ideas quickly, and efficiently, but he was thoughtful about what he composed; Fantasy in C minor K.475, D minor piano concerto etc.
It took him a long time when composing the "Haydn" Quartets, the ones he dedicated to his older friend.
Salieri was a proficient composer, but his requiem doesn't move me as Mozart's does. To me, Mozart's is more Bachlike, and passionate, I adore his Introitus, Kyrie, Dies Irae.
The livlier central section "Te decit Hymnus &c" creates such a striking contrast to the inevitable tread of the opening section, that is very original.
And the spirit of both pieces is different: Mozart's is very, please excuse the term, theatrical. He seems preocupied with the thought that he could be thown into Hell, feeling that he needed to make a last minute confession. Salieri's is somber, but has more of a sense of hope and comfort - FAITH!
Poor old Antonio Salieri was of course not the only composer of the period to be overshadowed by the genius of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. There was, for instance, his own father, Leopold, who could also be much more popular today, but for the greatness of his son. Wolfgang Amadeus is not to blame! Neither are the others... It's our society's fault, for we insist on living in a world of constant comparisons and refuse to judge things/people objectively, on their own merit. Shame on us!
Don't we all? I mean, don't we all have some very strange ideas at times? But many thanks for the link to old Leopold's Peasant Wedding symphony - as well as sharing all your other gems with us!
I have been searching for years for a recording of this. Can someone tell me where I can buy one? I've been accumulating as much of his music, and reading what material there is on him, for 20 years. This has become easier in the recent past, but I still haven't seen this. And while I'm posting, can anyone recommend a decent recording of AXUR? I have one very frail one from the late 80's Sienna festival, but the quality is awful.
I have searched for years for a recording of Salieri's Requiem. Can someone give me any ideas of where to find this? I've been accumulating as much of his music as possible for 20 years now. This has become easier in the last few years, but I have never found this.
While I'm posting, perhaps someone can lead me to a decent recording of Axur?
Peter Shaffer's play and Milos Forman movie are masterpieces, but unfortunately they helped spreading the myth that Salieri was was envious of Mozart's genius and that he was only a mediocre composer, if not a murderer. The two were actually very close and also composed a piece together, "Per la ricuperata salute di Ophelia". This aria was published in 1785, but is now lost. This astounding Kyrie is the proof that unfortunately sometimes music is the only way we can acknowledge the truth.
This requiem is beautiful,people must hear it...is wonderful.Salieri compose another requiem in D minor,in 1815-1820.The requiem in D minor is unfinished and are not cds with the piece.
yes, I love this music, I am surprised those words in quotes are from Salieri? "Piccolo Requiem composto da me, e per me, Ant. Salieri, piccolissima creatura"
Well, there you have it, the purest proof - poor Salieri didnt have a chance against Mozart - they don't stand comparison, really: Salieri's composition is "well-crafted" at best (though you notice it does not nearly flow as beautifully as Mozart's music), while Mozart's composition is pure genius...
chrisQ1000 2 days ago
Beautiful Piece... Salieri was a true genius too, even after what the movie said about him.
lucasvincentcardoso 1 week ago
SALIERI doit être réhabilité!
DELAPORTEYVESDENIS 3 weeks ago
this is so beautiful
aimsteroo 1 month ago
Adorably ,splendidly spiritually pacifying musical work! As I am suffering and am devastated from 3 illnesses at the same time ,this admirably calming musical work act on me so pleasantly!!! Thank you Salieri for creating this so deeply spiritually pasifying musical work !!!
fatalistbg1 1 month ago
Poor old Salieri seemed to get a bad press after the film 'Amadeus' was released.
baroqueman1 2 months ago 9
@baroqueman1 Salieri is een voor velen niet gekend componist, maar voor mij is hij TOP !
MsDawn1954 2 months ago in playlist A. Salieri: Requiem in C minor (1804)
what's the name of the drawing in the star?
staM034 3 months ago in playlist Classical Music - Antonio Salieri
very nice piece
Omgilovelifeabunch 4 months ago
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Well its better than some of the fluff Mozart composed
Linkster2o 2 years ago 8
You must be deaf or something :)
Flames6995 5 months ago
"MOZAAART! MOZAAAAART! FORGIVE ME MOZART!"
PiroozAzDirooz 6 months ago
very creepy
counterstrifekid 6 months ago
3 people are mozart
counterstrifekid 6 months ago 26
@counterstrifekid Mozarl loved him...
TheNagget 3 days ago
Why can't I find ANY of Salieri's music in the record store?? :(
KamasutraButterfly 7 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly He's horrible underrated - kinda like the movei 'Immortal Beloved' - awesome, yet forgotten.
AnubisMusicOfficial 6 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly It's a shame, isn't it? I've been trying to rescore this requiem for almost a year now, cannot find an original score
ComposerJMA 6 months ago
Nice one, was not aware of its beauty
SandrineSoprano 7 months ago
There are superficial similarities with Mozart,but there are few surprises-no moments where i am filled with a sense of wonder.
At 3:57 there's a stunningly beautiful sequence (cycle of 5th?),but it rather laboriously gets repeated in exactly the same way. It feels like a formula.
allegramente5000 8 months ago
@allegramente5000 That short sequence at 3:58 sounds borrowed from You Know Who's Requiem.
PiroozAzDirooz 6 months ago
I love requiems!!!
niatialeo 8 months ago
these version is much better than Mozarts
hanohypersequence 8 months ago
@hanohypersequence
This isn't a version of Mozart's Requiem, this is an entirely different Requiem by a different composer. I see why you would think it's a diff version, but yeah, no.
megadethrulez1 1 month ago
the pictures are sick
profalconey3 9 months ago
@profalconey3 Ha ha ha ha
SandrineSoprano 7 months ago
This musicpiece sounds allot like a music piece of Mozart.
meenksellaan1 9 months ago
is it true that that he was the man in the black cloak who came to mozart's door? Or does nobody know?
hello152984 10 months ago
@hello152984 No, that's fiction. Mozart's Requiem was commissioned by a nobleman, Count Franz Walsegg, who wanted to use it as being his own composition for his deceased wife. The man who appeared to Mozart with money was a steward of the count.
Grissha 9 months ago
Interestingly enough, the first time this was heard was at Salieri's own funeral.
invaderzimrules132 10 months ago 3
Lisbon Gulbenkian Chorus & Orchestra
directed by Lawrence Foster
theprof1958 1 year ago
That oboe solo is epic! so alone and mournful!
gajda1984 1 year ago
@gajda1984 sorry, cor anglais i meant
gajda1984 1 year ago
You wrote a requiem? 0.o
I just got commissioned for one...
ComposerJMA 1 year ago
I based much of my requiem off of this
WarriorcatsBoards 1 year ago
beautiful
13Andrianna 1 year ago 3
salieri and mozart, the 16th century's tupac and biggie smalls
AuntySemitist 1 year ago
@AuntySemitist try 18th and 19th century.
dumbass.
and how dare you compare them to those stupid niggers.
their music WAS MUSIC and wasn't some primal, instinctive playground bullshit about bitches and hoes.
ffyfan15 1 year ago
@ffyfan15 first off all, that was a joke my good man; salieri and mozart hated one another, supposedly ending up in a salieri murdering his rival; same as pac and biggie, with tupac getting shot by biggie smalls. second, if you listened properly to any of their music is alot deeper and heartfelt than shit about bitchs and hoes, thats just the stereotype for rap music. stupid niggers? not really.
AuntySemitist 1 year ago
@AuntySemitist haha.
what a dumbass.
you believe that because it was in a movie, when in fact, that has no factual portrayal of the true events whatsoever.
and yes, stupid niggers.
they didnt advance their education or study classically in anything.
they just "winged" everything they did and it deserves no analysis becasue there is nothing to analyze other than noise.
now back to GOOD music, salieri did despise mozart because mozart was a dick to everyone, but i'll message you more about this.
ffyfan15 1 year ago
@ffyfan15 i did say supposedly, didnt i? i dont think much of it tbh. but eh, tupac, studied shakespeare and poetry at a 3rd level... thats off the point anyway, as if their education had to do with it at all; i made a joke, you responded to it like an absolute nerd, like fair enough for correcting the dates i had, but honestly, taking it personal like that really makes you look like a faggot
AuntySemitist 1 year ago
@ffyfan15 why are you so hateful just listen to the music and keep your thoughts to yourself
RandomCDS 11 months ago
@ffyfan15 im not going to comment on anything in that (in the interest of not opening cans of worms) post but the comment about mozart being a dick. I don't think that would be my choice of words, but yes he was a very arrogant man and thought of most other composers as trash and that his pieces should be the ones getting commissioned because he was a superior composer, almost as if his way of writing music was the only way and no one else's was worth listening to.
sickley1 11 months ago
@ffyfan15 meant to say 18th century, stupid mistake
AuntySemitist 1 year ago
@ffyfan15
Hush, sir(: you're very stupid. You're annoying.
Love,
Brittanie.
RikaNamida 1 year ago
Thanks, i've been looking for this song.
ihtel 1 year ago
Salieri is often overlooked....Thank you milos forman for resurrecting this previously unknown composer...
101division44 1 year ago
Perfect!
izumrud007007 1 year ago
Perfect.
izumrud007007 1 year ago
The feel made with the... frightening pictures...
WarriorcatsBoards 1 year ago
本人欲與facebook諸樂友分享薩里耶里之聖樂,略作中文解說,感謝您無私提供此一悠揚雅樂,並容我引用!
I would like to share some Sacred Works of Antonio Salieri with my friends in facebook who enjoy classical music.
Meanwhile, try to write an simple introduction for this in Chinese.
appreciate your selfless offer! Please allow me quote.
einkater 1 year ago
The four at the beginning please.
dantreel 1 year ago
These paintings are beautiful, can you tell me who they are or give me links. Please let me have them in my possession.
dantreel 1 year ago
Meraviglioso capolavoro di un genio della musica vocale e corale!
La mediocrità di Salieri esiste solo nella mente dei mitomani.
laurion69 1 year ago
This is very beautiful, but I can't find it anywhere. Do you know where can I find it in mp3?
MilchundSchokolade13 1 year ago
19dutch46 1 year ago
@19dutch46 thank you! Is very good, the problem is that I can't buy from the internet. But well, I will try.
MilchundSchokolade13 1 year ago
The original piece was written in memory of the executed king of france Louis the XVi. Louis was believed by many to have been a kind and compassionate King and when he was executed by the french revolutionaries even factions of the Revolutionaries were against it. so this was written in his memory.
ekamau20 1 year ago
Most recently the "Requiem" has been released by the Gulbenkian Chorus & Orchestra on modern instruments, directed by Lawrence Foster for the PentaTone-Label. I own this new recording and it's really worth listening (& buying).
grosswesir 1 year ago
this requiem was conducted by Franz Shubert in the salieri´s funeral.... Viena = greates musicians of the world
damiancho15 1 year ago
As far as Beethoven being deaf goes, he was composing for many years before he became deaf so he had an excellent understanding of what each instrument/note would sound like in his head. (eg think of the requiem scene in amedeus, its more of a dictation process. Not a jam like bands would do these days!) my point being you dont necessarily need to be able to hear. Secondly, I think Salieri is medicore compared to Mozart, but if he had lived in another time he would have been much more respected.
84eisoj 1 year ago
Simply great music!!
It's a certain known fact that Beethoven himself (a student of Salieri) said thet Salieri was a very loving and appreciative person: He found it absolutely impossible that Salieri colud harm Mozart. Despite, he respected Mozart deeply for his unbelievable talent!!
krisdilen 1 year ago
If the story in Amadeus is true, then this might be the reason why the masked man delivered the message allegedly written by Salieri to Mozart asking him to compose the Requiem to see if his composition of Requiem could be surpassed. Mozart did it great although he wans't able ti finish the masterpiece. Salieri, however, is one of the best composers of his time.
eriesal 1 year ago
genio
carlosLor 1 year ago
Antonio Salieri was, and still is, truly a great composer. It's about time he becomes a recognized composer!!!
krisdilen 1 year ago 3
I'm looking for the right song 2 translate to guitar. He was and is A great Composer.
JasonH42000 1 year ago
The only reason this is even here is thanks to Peter Schaffer and Amadeus. Salieri's very mediocrity has saved him from obscurity - something his talent clearly could never have done. Mind you, it isn't as conspicuously ordinary as the myth requires - just a bit uninspired.
corfangilian 1 year ago
@corfangilian
Why would you call this mediocre? This is well crafted art. Just because a movie had him calling himself midiocre doesn't mean that he was. He was good enough to instruct Beethoven and Liszt.
intervalkid 1 year ago 2
Love the paintings anyone know who there by??
Alexander87oclock 1 year ago
¡¡¡Me parece estremecedor desde los primeros acordes!!! ¡¡¡Es bellísimo!!!
alcarazpurhepecha 1 year ago
muy oscuro y profundo exactamente como me gusta!!
perfectoo!! no puedo pedir mas (:
XBeLaNovOX 2 years ago
salieri was a great composer. this requiem is pure. great italian.
dallexandro 2 years ago 3
what most people tend to discard is the fact that Salieri was the master of his time. in vienna his music was the music that was played. it was him who people believed would have his music played more than 100 years from then... it's sad he's such a back drop.
amkroese 2 years ago 8
@tubez4321
Bach wrote music from his head! So did Beethoven! That is a gift for great composers, they can hear the whole music inside their head!
danielevans89 2 years ago
Adagio - Lara Fabian???
G14LLO 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading this music. After watching Amadeus, I became curious about Salieri's music. While I don't think he comes even close to the depth and emotional substance that is Mozart, I hardly think he was a mediocrity as Amadeus has presented. His music, in my opinion, isn't genius level, but it's not garbage, either. He has composed some nice stuff!
tubez4321 2 years ago 3
Les effets visuels vont très très bien avec ce morceau. Merci.
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Profondo,celestiale!
magicopotito 2 years ago 2
This is extraordinary! Salieri reveals so much of himself with such simple (not complex) music. He's a master.
You're pictures are great. Inspired.
I'm new to the whole opvid thing, but I think I have a model to aspire to.
Oh yea. I'm fightin' 'em back.
DDBartoli 2 years ago 4
And right you are. Truth be told, complexion in music is not the element that should define beauty and ingeniousness. This Requiem is truly magnificent.
To create the perfect irony, i have it in my play list after Mozart's Requiem, Agnus Dei
DaremythSyd 2 years ago 17
excuse me, who is playing & singing? on period instruments, I assume..?
mariaimmaculata 2 years ago
I have no idea.
I would be glad if someone could tell me...
Thrax1982 2 years ago
@Thrax1982 @mariaimmaculata It's probably the recording of the Concertino Notturno Praha / A.Kroper (on period instruments) which was released on a czech label and which is currently unavailable except in the czech republic.
There may be another recording by the BBC Chorus & SO, but it was only broadcasted, not released in any form.
grosswesir 1 year ago
@mariaimmaculata It's probably the recording of the Concertino Notturno Praha / A.Kroper (live on period instruments) which was released on a czech label and is currently unavailable except in the czech republic.
There may be another recording by the BBC Chorus & SO.
Most recently the "Requiem" has been released by the Gulbenkian Chorus and Orchestra on modern instruments, directed by Lawrence Foster for the PentaTone-Label. I own this new recording and it's really worth listening (and buying).
grosswesir 1 year ago
es muy buen requiem. aunque no tanto como el de Mozart.
requiem150290 2 years ago
sin duda mozart es mi compositor favorito pero en mi opinion este parese mas un requiem que que hizo mozart, aunque no digo que el de mozart no es bueno,
cherubeec 2 years ago
ALEXANDRISCARLATI 2 years ago
Es una música nueva para mi.
Te agradezco hayas subido este requiem.
La música de Salieri es buena y agradable, por algo era el rival de Mozart por asi decirlo. Música fresca para mi.
schubertcito72 2 years ago
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boooooooooooooooring
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
Verkligen inte. Den är hjärtegripande.
Meyerbeer1 2 years ago
inte för mig
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
Jaja, trist att du inte hör storheten i Salieris musik.
Meyerbeer1 2 years ago
In case anyone is interested. I started to upload an earlier mass of his.
Mass in D major "Emperor Mass" (1788)
Thrax1982 2 years ago
What's the thing abut a "Piccolo Requiem"? Please explain!
HerrWarja 2 years ago
What exactly do you want to know?
Thrax1982 2 years ago
What does it mean? i know what a requiem is, a mass for the dead. But, what's a Piccolo Requiem?
HerrWarja 2 years ago
'Small Requiem'
or
'Little requiem'
Thrax1982 2 years ago
Does it not inclued al the parts?
HerrWarja 2 years ago
I think it has all the traditional parts and even some additional.
Thrax1982 2 years ago
I think it should be considered in its figurative meaning, that is, "humble requiem". As you read in the following part, he defines himself "piccolissima creatura", "very humble creature"... (sorry for my English ;D)
carlitosecondo 2 years ago
Yes, indeed.
Or perhaps "insignificant" or something like that.
Thrax1982 2 years ago
"Piccolo Requiem composto da me, e per me, Ant. Salieri, piccolissima creatura" is true that he said th words?
xr1983kr 2 years ago
I think I saw it mentioned in more than one place, so likely yes. On the other hand I haven't seen the original score so I can't confirm what exactly is written there :D
Thrax1982 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this. I am a new-born Salieri fan.
dlondon1144 2 years ago 3
while i appreciate that salieri was a great composer, this requiem really just doesn't do it for me. it just seems a bit emotionless? and after a few minutes, you're sort of left feeling no different to how you were when you started, and i don't think that's how music should be. the great requiems, in my opinion, are the ones that just about move you to tears. but i guess it's open to personal interpretation.
alixbiggs 2 years ago 2
perhaps he was in to bright a mood when he wrote this?
MillyProductions 2 years ago
haha quite possibly. i have no problem with him being happy and putting this into his music or whatever, this requiem is just not one of my favourites.
alixbiggs 2 years ago
i actually think this requiem in its whole is a lot darker then mozart's. which says alot.
MillyProductions 2 years ago 2
Well its better than some of the fluff Mozart composed
Linkster2o 2 years ago 9
@Linkster2o >> Dude mozart is a genius. And salieri Knew it himself. :P
winteramethyst1 3 months ago in playlist Classical Music - Antonio Salieri
@Linkster2o oh, come on
fbaraglia 3 months ago
I love the tone of this requiem. Its not too overly dramatic as often Mozart's and Verdi's tend to be. You can honor people dying perfectly well without making the music nearly apocalyptic. This is beautiful.
oreillyfan360 2 years ago
what a beautiful introit
xav233 2 years ago
Long Live Salieri!
jecksperrow 2 years ago 23
yes... long live... But Mopzart destroyed ALL his music and replaced him =(
DarkShark190 2 years ago
bello
i like
zen2967 2 years ago
not as good as Mozart's requiem
oldbreadandgrandsonA 2 years ago
But then what is?
gspaulsson 2 years ago
Probably listening to Mozart's Requiem without some fuck acting like some great philosopher.
oldbreadandgrandsonA 2 years ago
Please, no personal insults or I will have to start blocking people.
Thrax1982 2 years ago
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Oh okay, you're a vagina. Please block me.
oldbreadandgrandsonA 2 years ago
I'll gladly do it, because you asked for it.
Otherwise I have no habit of blocking people for insulting me. People can say whatever they like about me but don't attack other users and the performers.
Thrax1982 2 years ago
thank u for adding this after a long day this is what i love to listen to
Clemsonandcubsfan1 2 years ago 3
i highly respect your not getting drawn in to an argument by a troll, it shows the more mature side of youtube.
MillyProductions 2 years ago
Lode ai 6866 ascoltatori!
Dimostrazione che esiste ancora una giustizia nell'apprezzare un si' valido Compositore,caduto nell'oblio.
giovanbattistadraghi 2 years ago
beautiful
pseudoalpha4real 2 years ago
Damn Amadeus the movie! Salieri didnt kill
him!!lol
Jonza121 3 years ago 2
Salieri's work DESERVES more of the prominent light of his contemporaries and highly esteemed pupil's, including such greatness a Beethoven and Franz Liszt (who some believe to be the greatest pianist in history) and even Mozart's son was pupil to him.
Truly fabulous.
DarkParagon 3 years ago 6
simplemente, una obra de arte
canicvla 3 years ago
è significativo che dopo il 1804 salieri praticamente smetta di comporre. il 1804 è l'anno della quinta di beethoven, allievo di salieri... se salieri la sentì, dovette capire che il suo mondo era ormai disfatto. significativamente la sua ultima composizione importante è un requiem. è il guaio dei compositori di transizione: il loro mondo gli muore davanti agli occhi: o spaccano tutto, come beethoven (ma ci vuole talento e voglia) o si ritirano dignitosamente
doctormantell 3 years ago 3
Certo, hai ragione...
Ma Salieri, nonstante la sua lunga vita, era un compositore della seconda metà del '700.
E rispetto alla sua epoca (che era appunto quella) era e resta un compositore luminoso e pieno digenio, come questo meraviglioso requiem dimostra a pieno.
laurion69 3 years ago
infatti! lui appartenne a quella seconda metà del 700... l'extra di 20 anni che gli fu concesso di vivere nell'800 sono stati appunto un periodo in cui non ha scritto praticamente nulla, perché i suoi tempi non erano più quelli. Laddove Beethoven... comunque hai ragione: questo Requiem è il suo capolavoro. C'è un'intensità ignota al Salieri prima maniera.
doctormantell 3 years ago
Noi italiani dovremmo avere più rispetto per i nostri artisti, anziché farci rimbambire dall'hollywodismo di film alla Amadeus.
Quando in Italia apparve quel film, notavo che un po' tutti quelli che lo videro ridacchiavano di Salieri come compositore da strapazzo, che Mozart aveva il diritto di sbeffeggiare, senza capire che in fondo in quel film c'è molta irriverenza per l'Italia.
laurion69 3 years ago
d'accordissimo. ma del resto, milos forman non ha colpa: lui ha solo fatto un film. sono giunto alla conclusione che in salieri egli non fa altro che ritrarre noi, ciascuno di noi, la nostra umanità inferiore, gretta e meschina, che davanti a questi geni inviati da chissà dove non sa far altro che provare odio e invidia. certamente il salieri vero doveva essere più sereno. tra l'altro in amadeus non fanno sentire nè il requiem di salieri nè certi passi delle danaidi che... aaaahh, godimento
doctormantell 3 years ago
salieri spesso aveva presentimenti. le sue opere buffe hanno dei tocchi rossiniani. l'overture delle danaidi ha un momento beethoveniano all'inizio e non solo. questo requiem riecheggia il primissimo romanticismo - comunque non è più classicismo in senso stretto, credo.
doctormantell 3 years ago
Grazie, Antonio Salieri,piccolissima creatura, ma grandissimo Compositore,per il Requiem composto per Te ma che io ascolto con immenso piacere.
riccardovignanelli 3 years ago 5
This is fabulously beautiful!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago 3
Che bellissima composizione!
Meravigliosa.
Credo sia giunto il momento di restituire al genio di Salieri ciò che merita.
Basta con le stupide leggende, che tanto hanno fatto male a Salieri e forse un po' troppo beneficio hanno portato a Mozart.
Tutti devono sapere che il finto antagonismo di Mozart sul compositore italiano (presunto medicore musicista) è la personificazione della reazione tedesca all'egemonia della musica italiana nel '700.
laurion69 3 years ago
Mi perdoni Signor mysterious,avevo mal interpretato i suoi coomenti.Lei,difendendo la verita' storica,si estranea dalla massa che giudica un compositore su pregiudizi e non sul valore delle sue opere,come e' il caso per Salieri.Come puo' il Signor o Signora alistone sostenere che un autore porti sfiga!ma questo e' un clima da vera caccia alle streghe!
riccardovignanelli 3 years ago
Also, it's not like Antonio's father was completely against music. Antonio was learning how to play instruments while he was still alive.
jnosk15 3 years ago
"Perfect" music is just an opinion, there is likely no such thing. Salieri and Mozart were no revolutionists, both played much in the style at the time. I don't see how Salieri could be anymore 'naturally gifted' than Mozart. Yeah, his father taught him, but no composer goes anywhere without teaching.
jnosk15 3 years ago
ahhh..so much salieri around the internet it's nice.
MillyProductions 3 years ago 4
This made my day, thank you. Where did you find the recording? Is it available on CD anywhere?
nordenfan 3 years ago
I talked about Mozart on last post ;-)
Justice to Salieri!...inspired directly by god, not just a sponge brain evil that copy the true inspired artists...
mystereous 3 years ago 2
He was very analytic, and yes very talented, but he did not had pianist hands...
mystereous 3 years ago
But Salieri has the physical, and the psysical, mean more natural... If Mozart writed operas than young, it's just because his Dad, was VERY hard whit it, and very early in age. He obligated Amadeus to become what he becamed. Salieri did had not a fahter like this... So the destiny helped Mozart, but Salieri was naturally gifted. It,s not a quesion of age you know. If you are 30 oldyears ,by exemple, and gud on the moment, it prove that you're born with it!
mystereous 3 years ago 2
Let's say it takes a fair amount of natural talent to be good at anything, hard work alone will never be enough.
Thrax1982 3 years ago
Beside, not all know the most part of Mozart's works untill the age of 12 were composed by his father, as shows the recent studies on autographies.
And not all know Salieri was an incredible enfant prodige, since he became at 24 the youngest Chapel of history of music.
Movies and legends often blur real vision of things!
laurion69 3 years ago
May be, but for each time someone listen a Salieri composition, 1000 is listening to Mozart... that´s not a legend, that's true.
Salieri was an enfant prodige? Then that makes an even more greatest Mozart.
Legends can never be destroyed...
aequesadacr 3 years ago 4
Ok Mozart was the best. But Salieri was REALLY perfect, and Mozart copied his style, and the one from bach and Haydn... Salieri is born with is talent, like Beethoven or J.s Bahc. That's the TRUTH!! Ok, now we can saiy that Mozart won by his very hard work, but... ;) Listen it, it's perfect, totally !! Nothing to say more! He his a genious too!!
mystereous 3 years ago 3
I think it's the opposite, Mozart was writing operas at an age where Salieri was net even allowed to compose yet because his teacher thought he had not learned enough.
Thrax1982 3 years ago
Ok, Mozart was BIGGER, and he worked A LOT MORE on his music... ;), but antonio Salieri is a natural born talent, creator and composer. He had the style in him, he had the physical, everything that Mozart did'n't have naturally but learned VERY hardly by his father's help. And no, Mozart music is not perfect, it's desiquilibred sometimes... To much for nothing, sometimes very stupid, NOT perfect.
mystereous 3 years ago 3
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Mozart could compose music - entire SYMPHONIES - in his head. I don't believe there has ever been another composer like Mozart who could accomplish this genius-level feat. On that basis alone (ignoring the fact that he composed numerous pieces when he was just a child) it puzzles me that you could imply that Mozart wasn't as talented as Salieri. I think it's clearly the opposite. I wonder what you basis of comparison is other than the music we hear. Read any biographies?
tubez4321 2 years ago
Aren't you forgetting about beethoven? who wrote the best symphony of the history while he was totally deaf. I don't like to compare especially because I love mozart. but i could exchange 40 of mozart's symphonies for only three of beethoven's
ezev8logos 1 year ago
well, many scholars say that's romantic myth. Mozart could work out musical ideas quickly, and efficiently, but he was thoughtful about what he composed; Fantasy in C minor K.475, D minor piano concerto etc.
It took him a long time when composing the "Haydn" Quartets, the ones he dedicated to his older friend.
Salieri was a proficient composer, but his requiem doesn't move me as Mozart's does. To me, Mozart's is more Bachlike, and passionate, I adore his Introitus, Kyrie, Dies Irae.
Superstarrockmetal 1 year ago
I enjoy the Mozart Requiem, and the Salieri.
The livlier central section "Te decit Hymnus &c" creates such a striking contrast to the inevitable tread of the opening section, that is very original.
And the spirit of both pieces is different: Mozart's is very, please excuse the term, theatrical. He seems preocupied with the thought that he could be thown into Hell, feeling that he needed to make a last minute confession. Salieri's is somber, but has more of a sense of hope and comfort - FAITH!
olcorganist 1 year ago
es bonito
natestcrat 3 years ago
Poor old Antonio Salieri was of course not the only composer of the period to be overshadowed by the genius of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. There was, for instance, his own father, Leopold, who could also be much more popular today, but for the greatness of his son. Wolfgang Amadeus is not to blame! Neither are the others... It's our society's fault, for we insist on living in a world of constant comparisons and refuse to judge things/people objectively, on their own merit. Shame on us!
Hamlynhyde 3 years ago 2
Leopold Mozard had some very strange ideas,
enjoy his Peasant Wedding symphony.
watch?v=GP7WZpajofU
;)
Thrax1982 3 years ago
Don't we all? I mean, don't we all have some very strange ideas at times? But many thanks for the link to old Leopold's Peasant Wedding symphony - as well as sharing all your other gems with us!
Hamlynhyde 3 years ago
this sounds nice :)
31killa 3 years ago
I have been searching for years for a recording of this. Can someone tell me where I can buy one? I've been accumulating as much of his music, and reading what material there is on him, for 20 years. This has become easier in the recent past, but I still haven't seen this. And while I'm posting, can anyone recommend a decent recording of AXUR? I have one very frail one from the late 80's Sienna festival, but the quality is awful.
nordenfan 3 years ago
I posted a new clip, this time it's
Tuba mirum and Rex tremendae
Thrax1982 3 years ago
New clip is up - Recordare & Confutatis
Thrax1982 3 years ago
And the next one is up - Lacrimosa.
Now it's going to be a bit longer pause before I move on with this.
Thrax1982 3 years ago
New upload
Domine Jesu Christe & Hostias
Thrax1982 3 years ago
New clip is up.
Thrax1982 3 years ago
Sanctus & Benedictus is up now, 2 more to go.
Thrax1982 3 years ago
The entire requiem is up now, enjoy!
Thrax1982 3 years ago
I have searched for years for a recording of Salieri's Requiem. Can someone give me any ideas of where to find this? I've been accumulating as much of his music as possible for 20 years now. This has become easier in the last few years, but I have never found this.
While I'm posting, perhaps someone can lead me to a decent recording of Axur?
nordenfan 3 years ago
Damn i didn't knew Salieri was this good .
xSnoweyexp 3 years ago 2
you had no idea.. its just that he was overshadowed by Mozart.
tuiteleleapaga 3 years ago
Well i think his wish became reality after all.
xSnoweyexp 3 years ago
Peter Shaffer's play and Milos Forman movie are masterpieces, but unfortunately they helped spreading the myth that Salieri was was envious of Mozart's genius and that he was only a mediocre composer, if not a murderer. The two were actually very close and also composed a piece together, "Per la ricuperata salute di Ophelia". This aria was published in 1785, but is now lost. This astounding Kyrie is the proof that unfortunately sometimes music is the only way we can acknowledge the truth.
marylovesfrank 3 years ago
YEs i do wanna believe that. I mean after all it is just a movie.
xSnoweyexp 3 years ago
They did help to spread the myths but they also generated a lot of interest. All publicity is good publicity ;)
Thrax1982 3 years ago
This requiem is beautiful,people must hear it...is wonderful.Salieri compose another requiem in D minor,in 1815-1820.The requiem in D minor is unfinished and are not cds with the piece.
haydnsalieri8 3 years ago
yes, I love this music, I am surprised those words in quotes are from Salieri? "Piccolo Requiem composto da me, e per me, Ant. Salieri, piccolissima creatura"
berthos2 3 years ago