Cell Companies Keep Texts, Private Data

[2anime4ever]

For a second there, I thought I heard Cenk say "Obama his head" instead of "a bomb on his head".

[Saaduk92]

In other news, the sky is blue.

[FreestylaBoy]

"Those who would trade liberty for security, deserves neither"

- Benjamin Franklin

[FamilyRoyalty]

@FreestylaBoy you mean "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

[afshin021]

why is this news everyone has known this for years 

[LuvZippy]

@LiveFreeFromFallacy actually a lot of murders are solved that way, a lot of alibis, and a lot of criminals got locked away.

[DrunkyMcSwervencrash]

The Founding Fathers wanted to keep people from listening in on phone sex. ;)

[lShishkaBerryl]

virgin is awesome, i love their service.

[imcrazy85]

im switching tomorrow

[CamaroHappy]

ever read "amusing ourselves to death" that is what is happening with this damn Country!!

[treysparker]

Brilliant Cenk, very well said.

[hannahmobrien]

what about sprint?

[MiPedoteTUMBA]

Damn it! I have ATT! All those drug deals! NOOOOOO!

[Partyffs]

You Americans are blind.

It's called population control.

[MCsuperChristina]

Virgin & T-mobile are UK companies. We have the Data Protection Act 1998, which means that it is illegal for them to keep your information. When I started my job at npower (massive corporation) DPA and what it means for the company are a part of the training.

[grmpf]

@MCsuperChristina T-Mobile is a German company (being a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom). Theoretically, data protection in Germany should be just as strict as you described, but more recent laws have kind of softened it. Furthermore, T-Mobile has a history of badly-protected and stolen customer data.

Most importantly, T-Mobile will be acquired by AT&T, thereby no longer falling under Deutsche Telekom company policy.

[EmilyRoseLR1]

I'm glad I'm on T-Moblie now...

[ubermisogynist]

Anyone who didn't already know this is pretty stupid. I got rid of my cell phone

[FistoRobusto]

As if I needed another reason to hate AT&T.

[fab006]

So but when it comes to the Second Amendment, you're all for taking away constitutional rights in the name of safety, huh?

[gupsphoo]

Ana, it took me a while to read what's on your T-shirt. Your boobs are too big.

[futurestoryteller]

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

[treysparker]

@futurestoryteller

Prove it.

[futurestoryteller]

@treysparker Prove what?

[phoboskibbity]

Our conservative government in Canada tried to do this ( and will certainly try again ) but we Canadians stopped them.

[MrRaven92]

wow.

[muma0449]

DAYUMN! I Cant sext anymore! :/

[Nightdrone]

Yeah I'm going to keep my SIM card removed for a while...

[pastafarian37]

What about Getro PCS?

[RaabBlog]

ATT gets to see the growth of my penis over the course of 3 years. i should call them up and see how im doing.

[mistacramer]

These fucking assholes!

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

Virgin Mobile it is then! I will NEVER give my money to these parasitic Constitution destroying corporations.

[b3rtne]

/ Fuck T-Mobile for keeping our shit for any amount of time.

[DisturbedHavok]

The Tea Party opposes the Patriot Act, but I bet they hate the ACLU as well. The ACLU is the FIRST line of defense in protecting our rights, but the Tea Party probably thinks guns are. Guns should be the last line of defense. Things are pretty damn dire when you are into using violence. Even our Founding Fathers understood this.

[paladinvince]

How many terabytes of dicks is 3 years worth?

[BrutalBorat]

The police in NZ can now film you without you knowing and use it as evidence against you in court........

[pvtpain66k]

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." ~ Thomas Jefferson

[DanimalCollective]

Shit, I gotta stop texting my weed guy.

[duracellh]

Hepting v. AT&T

[slantmaster]

The cell phone text records are really helpful for lawsuits.

[MirraSyren]

Ana doesn't care either, Cenk, ~she's faking it, & she's more interested in her own fakey smirk & how she sounds. Listen to her response when Cenk says the 4th amendment is gone, ~she goes "yeah, it is" like it's pretend-reality that doesn't need to be dealt with because the drama is what Ana cares about, -not what to do to protect our rights.

[LiveFreeFromFallacy]

I don't care if they know what I'm doing! I have nothing to hide! However if someone day decides to accuse me of a murder and I have no alibi because I didn't know I needed one I would love that my phone company had my location and calls I was on while I was there. A criminal might not want this but I would. Plus if someone goes missing we should have that info ready and available to find them as fast as possible.

[spiderpig85]

@LiveFreeFromFallacy The problem is that this is not how that information is getting used. This information is being sold to other companies for use with direct advertising. Someone is spying on you and getting rich by doing so. This is COMPLETELY illegal.

[Rudolph4223]

I like how the use anna boobs for advertising, lol, its a pretty effective idea though.

[MrJekyllDrHyde1]

The data helps the operators to analyze traffic data & then use it to offer better deals, price-plans etc. It would also help them to provide better customer care.

[PatFizzle22]

@MrJekyllDrHyde1 In a perfect world, yes

[TheUSMetalhead]

If you have privacy issues the very first thing you must do is get rid of your smartphone. Getting a new congress wouldn't hurt either.

[Beatle911]

Who cares? lol. If you have nothing to hide, you should really care less.

[mecher3k]

@Beatle911

It's the principle you moron.

[Beatle911]

@mecher3k 9/11 has taught us that we can't be safe. If people can look at us naked at the airport, I don't see what the problem is about snooping cell phone data. You liberals are just so paranoid.

[mecher3k]

@Beatle911

I see you're just a fail troll.



[Beatle911]

@mecher3k I don't agree with you=troll? Nah, I'm just a conservative. The government stops multiple terrorist attacks per day due to this.

[mecher3k]

@Beatle911

Bullshit. You have no facts to back it up.

[Beatle911]

@mecher3k  And these guys who are providing a one sided argument do? lol.

[mecher3k]

@Beatle911

Yes, Verzion even admits to this.

Me = someone who keeps up to date, especially in the tech world.

You = fail troll on 4chan.

[Beatle911]

@mecher3k lol, please tell me why you're against this.

[Beatle911]

@mecher3k lol, you're just another liberal. You have no logic behind your points. Admit ignorance, accept defeat. :)

[daveelderdotcom]

Walking down the street the cameras that you don't see

are picking up the pictures and the sound.

And when some stranger knows more about you than he ought to

you might start to wonder how.

Somebody's watching...

[JayRedd69]

damn Verizon must be enjoying all those cool pictures of my dick

[mecher3k]

@JayRedd69

Go back to xbox live fool.

[andrewsaccount09]

@JayRedd69 Anthony Weiner's username?

[muma0449]

@JayRedd69 lmao nice

[harrysadlermusic]

@JayRedd69 LLLOOOOLLLL!

[aaronpolitical]

@JayRedd69 It's kinda odd-shaped, though, innit? Sorry, just doing a little "research" into our file servers...

[kuunami]

@JayRedd69

they can't enjoy pictures of mine. They don't cell phone screens that are widescreen enough.

[ginko27]

On new cars, the big insurence companies have had "black boxes" instaled. They record and send up to 10hrs of driving info, like how fast you are going, if you turned too sharp, or did anything else it deems as reckless.It records that info and sends it into your insurence co.They can use it to raise or lower your rates. It also records "suspicious activity" for law enforcement too. Your not told about it and it's not in your manual, so you have to go online and findout how to deactivate it.

[Khustla10R]

How in the hell can Cenk talk about The Constitution and our Founding Fathers and standing the 4th and "checks against the government" but yet be so stupid with the 2nd Amendment? He's all for gun control but don't you dare say he can't talk freely on this show, he'll fuck you up!

[CognosSquare]

@Khustla10R what do you even mean? Are you for 0 gun control? The fricking NRA does not even want that. Everyone cant have a bazooka or a minigun. You cant go around drunk and shoot in the air.

Of course there is going to be gun control.

[musiclovinggurl123]

Stop sexting people :P

[11ammas]

Why do you care if the government can read your text

[RKAddict101]

Any cell phone companies that don't do that at all?

[knucklez92]

cell phone companies always did this. that why police go through people phone in murder cases. not that shocking

[PatFizzle22]

@knucklez92 Very true. Having served on a jury myself, the cell phone evidence was a key factor that resulted in a conviction.

[RAMKING61]

When are people going to understand? Everything you say on a phone or typed on a computer is being witnessed.

[DarthAzabrush]

The British CID have to get a warrant for phone records but when it's a missing kid or a murder normally officers cut corners by guilt tripping the company into consenting.

Hence our murder clear up is 95%.

As for other crimes, I'd be surprised if they even make 30%

[595o]

@DarthAzabrush Murders are solved by looking at phone records? Who would have though… :->

[salmonline]

Get over it, Cenk. He's dead and it's a good thing.

[TransHero]

Odd... this is sort of the thing that Stephen Harper wants to do to us in Canada?

We're all fucked...

[cirruscloud751]

I guess there are apps that extra-encrypt text messages if you have exchanged (off-line) common encryption keys with the receiver. A very rough and non-elegant software, that needs lots of key, would be just 50-100 source code lines long.

[Sykotix1]

Did Ana just quote Jesse Ventura?

[isaacBrockofthe41]

This is why Niccolo Machiavelli hated the masses.

[595o]

@isaacBrockofthe41 You mean the character in The Prince that had resemblance to the Medici.

[isaacBrockofthe41]

@595o actually, the prince was meant for the Medici, but was inspired by Cesare Borgia

[cl1mbat1ze]

okay, so in Norway there was a lot of resistance from many people when we had to implement an act from Eu that would order isp's and cellphone providers to store ip information(who you're communicating with) for 6 months. But that kind of pales in comparison to this. Sweden refused the same act but was fined 150 million euros(This is from memory btw) and complied after that I think. Just, wow... I'm not surprised, since it's in corporate america, but it's just incredible nonetheless...

[cirruscloud751]

1.I guess maybe Cenk should have pointed out that TYT has something to hide because of journalism (it is OK and normal).

2.Most people have banking secrets to hide from thieves. Some of that is in SMS messages.

3.How about NSA etc. bosses giving their hired snoopers free porn, masturbation breaks etc. ?

4.If phone sex is so fun to listen as third party, is there a genre of audio porn and acted phone sex in "radioplay" format?

5.Insurance companies...

6.Celebrities...

[GBGWARLORD100]

CENK SENIN AMINA KOYIM OROSPU COCUKU GOT VEREN PIC

[ahclem1]

Yet another Big Brother moment, go to Truthout and search for "License plate recognition".

We know where you live, we know where you're going and where you've been, and we can find you whenever we want.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin

[StoneTNo5]

thats why i text in code

[MistressArte]

@seriospaul Because those conservative fuckers put a ban on human cloning. T___T

[MistressArte]

The government has NO business hearing me complaining about my PERIOD!!!! Although knowing this now I will add extra detail to make whatever third party reading it gag as my revenge. Enjoy my clot descriptions, it was said just for you. ;-)

[underbjorn]

Americans don't see this is the same practice as that criminal Murdoch, infringing on people.

.

They work like police state dictatorships, or like criminal corporations.

Just that in the U.S, it's all upside down anyway.

[badboyying]

Didn't conspiracy theorists like David Icke and Alex Jones mention about government policies taking away your freedom, and human rights etc. Wake up people! We are all living in prison. Freedom yeah fucking right, your delusional if you think your free ha ha. Plus tracking phones and checking text msgs has been going on for years anyway.

[UtubeMyAccountName]

I don't really see why people are surprised that businesses keep this information.

...and unless they contractually agreed not to, you don't have any justifiable reason to be upset. What should upset you, is the bureaucrats passing legislation that allows them to access your private correspondence, in blatant violation of their oaths.

[mike61524334251]

The Fourth Amendment, Freedom of Privacy, man I've missed it, I wish I can have the fourth amendment again.

[StoneTNo5]

@mike61524334251 yea ive missed that too... along with ALL THE OTHER ONES

[mike61524334251]

@StoneTNo5 No kidding, I missed the other too, except the tenth and the sixteenth amendment (which I heard there both unconstitutional, now I didn't get this from that idiot Rick Perry).

[romanmir01]

Ron Paul

watch?v=MAOPZVK2q0M

[crayyawn]

yeah this would be okay, keeping it for law enforcement, if there was no patriot act and our 4th amendment rights were still intact. whooops

[EverybodyStalfos]

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[MachinaSapien]

this video sounded like cenk is a ron paul supporter, which is awesome. he's the only democrat/republican who had the balls to speak out against this cia strike

[fab006]

@MachinaSapien Nah, they bash Ron Paul wherever they can... They like the constitution except when they don't...

[aaronpolitical]

@fab006 I was for the Constitution before I was against it.

[MachinaSapien]

@MachinaSapien I didnt mean he actually WAS a Ron Paul supporter, I just meant his views in this video completely align with Ron, which means he SHOULD be. I hope you read this Cenk, from a supporter in Canada.

[ParadoxEcho]

Didn't some liberal faciast once say "they who forfeit their freedom in the name of perceived safety deserve neither"?

Ehh, he was probably just some redskin err uhh, carpet bagger..that is i mean jew, no no, i meant to say dirty communist.. well, what i really mean is he was an islamist. definitely a dirty islamist..

Now that i joke about this.. its funny, there's always a scapegoat, isn't there. Believe it or not, you know who the next people to be vilified are? Paradoxically, the rich..

[tooosweeet]

who are the two assholes who disliked this video? "Fuck you, and uh, fuck you too." - c.lo

[orchoose]

@yetanotherdumbmonkey well i guess Ännas atitude was like... Ach they will look there anyway so why not put add there... and there is no hypocrisy in it.... Should she paint her face with add? ofc its on t shirt....

I like this idea its clever and funny:D

[inadaizz]

@liberalviewer please do a story on this.

[phuynh3]

I want to suck major pp please

[Nayr747]

I just want to say that other than not keeping your personal info unlike like the big carriers, Virgin is also WAAAAAY less expensive and gives great service, no contract, etc. I just switched from Verizon where you'd pay around $90 a month for a smartphone, and Virgin is only charging me $35 a month for unlimited everything but minutes on a LG Optimus V (which is awesome btw). It's fucking great!!

[Capng123]

Anyone who finds this surprising either hasn't being paying attention for the last decade or is from another planet, in which case let me be the first to say welcome to Earth, the universe's comedy channel!

[Tony007corp]

So i have an Alibi...

[cheddyrod]

Sounds like Ana and Cenk are for Ron in 2012 :P

[lukegreen37]

National Security is an Orwellian misnomer.

[boricuamm707]

It's not unconstitutional because they sometimes buy the information or simply ask for it. They aren't ceasing it from the company.

I disagree with it, but legally it's fair play.

[sycotic51]

Tell em to email me my txt I want my memories :)

[Supralobe]

No surprises here.

[Zackaryleslie]

ACLU steps a little too far in a few instances in my opinion. But for the vast majority of times, like this one, thank God an organization like them is out there.

[MaceMeetFace]

Look, Uncle Sam.

If you wanted to see pictures of my cock.

All you had to do was ask.

Geez!

[bb1televator]

"Every time a governmental official says they're trying to keep you safe, get ready because they're about to take some of your constitutional rights away."

Did Ana just quote Jesse Ventura?

[RustyRazor2010]

Virgin Mobile and T-Mobile may not keep it THEMSELVES, but you can BYA they don't destroy it.

[bevivian22]

it's even more worse as in Germany :/

(depends what kind of data - up to 6 month what I have read)

[blabbertymcbla]

"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."

-Padmé Amidala

[kadsl123]

@blabbertymcbla Bad movie, but the quote is true.

[TheCagedTiger]

@blabbertymcbla

and to think that seemed fictional before..

[Spageraptor]

@blabbertymcbla One of the only good lines George Lucas actually wrote

[kainniak1]

@blabbertymcbla y cause america is the only county with liberty jeez

[qland]

@kainniak1 ever so shrinking though...C U @ the surf prty

[qland]

@blabbertymcbla  Who would of thought Lucas could be so wise ...or prolific, well maybe Joesph Campbell.

[unabomberman]

@blabbertymcbla

So scary that George Lucas wrote something right...

[ChameleonLost88]

@blabbertymcbla One of my favorite quotes !!!

[cpufightclub]

@blabbertymcbla virgin for life much? its just a movie, bro. repeat : STAR WARS IS JUST A MOVIE.

[blabbertymcbla]

@cpufightclub It's just a quote, bro. Repeat: JUST A QUOTE.

[ginko27]

@blabbertymcbla "I'm a bom-bad senator now!" -Jar Jar Binks

[CognosSquare]

@ginko27 very poignant Sir.

[RebornLegacy]

@blabbertymcbla

Natalie Portman star wars reference lol 

[544001]

@blabbertymcbla lmao a quote from the prequels, really? lol

[biggydx]

-_-

[MrFreeCookie]

and these people want the government in charge of the economy...

[Xenite227]

Hermann Goering said just tell people they are under attack and you can get them to do anything, Including giving up rights and going to war.

[Clanki]

@Xenite227 And that is what America KEEPS doing and works on 50% of people in the usa who are morons (aka sarah palin and michelle bachmann fans)

[ahclem1]

Good quote, here's another.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels

[thetechgeneration]

you would think that republican politicians wouldn't want their messages saved

[dafttool]

Must explain the outrageously high prices they charge storing all of this data. :-/

[AndrewMatt16]

Good thing I switched to Virgin Mobile!

[calibur12001]

You can copy and paste this text, because I want to be the first to say it nnow... "By the end of 2012 the United States of America will no longer be a democracy."

[iamsean90]

Telecommunications act 1997

[NeccoWecco]

This information does do a lot to find missing people. I know from personal experience.

[yes4me]

Sprint????

[trier4952]

a person with nothing to hide hides nothing.

[TheStonerification]

@LindwurParty well TYT did a bad job presenting that point. Entire video seemed centered on the phone companies (including the vid title).

[TheStonerification]

You signed a contract. Has nothing to do with the Constitution.

[LindwurParty]

@TheStonerification The issue isn't that Verizon keeps the information, the problem is the government being allowed to demand it without probable cause.

[UberNoodleX]

@TheStonerification You are missing the point. By your logic, Constitutional rights can be waived by an appropriate contract and signature with a private entity. Yet, the same transnational corporations already strong arm developing nations into signing away far more vital rights than privacy. It's clear that this process can only end up coerced, forced or normalised. What's a citizen to do when their only option is to sign up for exploitation? It has EVERYTHING to do with the Constitution.

[Chaoitcme]

Makes me happy that I don't have a cell phone.

[laila046]

What about Sprint?

[OrangeSaint420]

you cant stop them from keeping records of the service they provide you with. if you dont like it dont buy it. they probably shouldnt sell your information or just release it but read your contract when you sign up everything is in there.