God would be to blame (if it exists). Adam and Eve would have no way of knowing that disobeying God's commandment was evil. The fruit they ate was called the fruit of the knowledge of good or evil. If it was evil to disobey God, Adam and Eve could not have known, and thus were innocent.
In islam If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins with wine and everlasting happiness. Isn't it ridiculous that allah lures man with the promise of women in paradise?
In islam If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins with wine and everlasting happiness. Isn't it ridiculous that allah lures man with the promise of women in paradise?
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@dsthegame Lol. God created everything. Sin is disobedience to the will of God. God cannot sin because he is the one that created and decides what is good or what is sin. :)
And WHy is Jesus paying for the Sin of Adam and Eve? So God creates ADAM. Adam sins by eating from the forbidden Tree. Then God becomes a Man and kills himself in order to neutralize that original sin which his creation (adam) commited. What a foolish understanding. Shame on you.
Both Jews and Christians Most Evil Creatures The Christians, Jews and idol worshipers, who do not believe in Mohammed or the Qur'an, are going to burn forever in hell and are the worst creatures on earth (98:6).
This one says it all. Great Religion very tolerant and peaceful to boot.
if no one can bear the burden of others, and we dont inherit the consequences of what adam/eve did........then why does a baby inherit the consequences of its mothers sin. eg mother got hepatitis from drug abuse...the baby in her womb isnt born innocent, its condemned with hepatitis because of her mothers sin.
@smokeybirdman any1 with some logic can refute ur arguement... lets say if a father hits his son then ofcourse the son is going to get hurt, but if the father goes & kills sum1, the police doesnt cone & arrest the son... it would b stupid & against the law.... if u believe in this then would u go 2 jail if the police came to arrest ur father?
@salahdin911 Hmm! of course not, but this isnt what im saying. Adam INTRODUCED sin and death. Consequently we sin and die. Jesus condemned sin(by not sinning) and defeated death(resurrection). In Adam we inherit human nature.(fallen nature that sins and is punished by death) In Christ we are resurrected to live eternally with God. Thats why he is the messiah(saviour) saves us from eternal death, and gives us eternal life. salem.
@smokeybirdman Haha ur pathetic, a mother abuses drugs, its her making the choice to do that, not the unborn baby who cant even think for him/her self fool. Everyone has a mind of their own, its up to them what they CHOSE to do! There is nothing more innocent than a baby, how can u even say a pure innocent sweet baby is a sinner that is just heartless dude, damn christianity has some evil thiings its teaching people. Islam is the way of truth. There is no brotherhood stronger than Islam.
@john1136 Thanks for the nice words. Anyway im not saying that a baby is a sinner!, what I said is this; That we are born suffering 'the consequences' of what Adam did and we are born with a mortal nature prone to sin. Similarily the unfortunate baby born to the junky mum suffers consequences of her actions.
@smokeybirdman If a baby is growing up in wrong enviroment obviously they'll grow up doing wrong, e.g. how black youths are born with out fathers and the result is most of them stereotyped as criminals. We are not born PRONE to sin, it is up to us weather we chose to sin or not. Noone is to blame someone's sin onto others. I can't quite fully understand u to answer u right, but hey forget me look at what brother NAik is sayin, thats the best answer. Peace.
Smokey, if u mean " taking drugs" is the sin, the child doesn't inhert that sin as the child cud be a good man after that, if you believe that the " hypatites" is the sin, no bro, hypatites is not a sin, it is a disease resulting from making a sin which is " taking drugs"... got it?
@MyLifeIsForAllah shabeb Im not saying the child 'sins'! Im saying the child 'suffers the consequences' of its mother's sin (drug taking) yes the child could grow to be a good person, but the child has hepatitis not because it took drugs but because its mum took drugs; thus the child suffers because of mum. salem/Allah ma'eck. :)
@MyLifeIsForAllah yes! but the 'consequences' of their disobedience was mortality and eventually death, instead of eternal life. Thus we as humans and their children also age and die, this is mortality! and this 'mortality' is prone to sin and suffer and age and die. Its our very human/mortal nature that we inherit from our parents Adam/Eve....we inherit this nature instead of a perfect nature that is eternal and perfect. For this nature will come when resurrected to live with God forever.
@smokeybirdman ts our very human/mortal nature that we inherit from our parents Adam/Eve
the devil also sinned. Does that mean we are similar to Devil in nature as well.
u say v inherited Adam & Eve's [a.s] nature of committing sin BUT v also gained their nature of asking forgiveness/repentance from God. Because that is wat God commanded Adam & Eve [as] to do.To seek forgiveness wen doing sin
God forgave Adam & Eve so how come we are responsible for their sin.
@younib100 Christianity teaches Original Sin, which is misunderstood by Muslims. Original Sin simply upholds God’s Law: “Like begets like.” (Gen. 1:24) Since God cannot breaks His own law, a perfect God created a perfect man (Adam). When Adam, by his own choice sinned, he made himself imperfect. As “Like must beget like,” the imperfect man (Adam) begot an imperfect children who had within their nature a tendency toward sin. Original Sin is simply a state of imperfection passed down.
ahan. original sin holds that devil in shape of serpant tricked eve [r.a] to convince adam [a.s] of eating the forbidden fruit. which caused the 'first sin' ur account is wrong as well mate.
adam [pbuh] wasnt imperfect. his sign of perfection is that wen the *sin* happened he then repented to God on earth which was accepted.
us on the other hand are far away from that aspect. v sin constantly knowingly & unknowingly & dont even repent for the most part. so my dear v are imperfect
God created us in such a way that v feel weakness & 'temptation' & adam & eve pbuh were the proof of this. its natural to commit sin mate BUT the humanity lies in were we willingly seek forgiveness from God & then to the best of our ability dont commit that sin again.
adam & eve [pbuh] were tricked by devil agreed but it was devil that did the first sin by refusing God not adam [pbuh]. uunlike devil who didnt seek forgiveness Adam for his MISTAKE seekd forgiveness & dat is human perfection
so that also means, that if your father robs a bank and kills a few people, and disappears... so the police cant catch him, but instead they take you in jail?? because you are his son?? or even reverse, you did the mistake, and your father has to be punished for it?? no my friend.
the child can't choose, he is innocent, but the mother can choose what she is going to do and what not. that the child is ill for the reason you mentioned, is the fault of his mother. she chose to.
@halakukhan salem! I didnt say anything like that. Simply that children inherit 'consequences' of decisions made by their parents. Also i didnt mention diabetes. Salem. ps speaking about facts, the fact is hell is the grave. Death is final and is similar to before you were born...nothing! Death is the result of sin, and the only hope of eternal life is in 'The Way, the Truth and the LIFE' salem!
@smokeybirdman oh wow. does every mother in the world have hepatitis ?? yes a child will get effected if his/her mother has hepatitis but ever heard the saying 'prevention is better than cure' this is wat Islam says. Avoid doing things that will lead u to have such stupid diseases & guilt
there are 100s of women who can't get pregnant.Are they mother mary [r.a] reborn ??
there are tons of guys that can't become fathers due to complications.Are they the chosen men of God for heaven ?? xD
@smokeybirdman Bad logic. If a baby dies of Aids because his mom had AIds does this make the baby go to hell? You have to differ between sin and disease.
@smokeybirdman Because before Adam And Eve there was no humans! Again you sound like disease's automaticly posts you to hell. You have to differ between sin and disease. You make it look like they are the same thing which even goes against your own book Deuteronomy 24:16. Here dr zakir naik talks about the hereafter and you comment like the hereafter is as in this world. Disiease is not result of sin. Tell me when you got a cold does this mean you got it because you or urparen sinned?
@smokeybirdman see the babe will be born sinless in the eyes of GOD... but the mother will pay for her choices!!!!! the child in no way will answer his mom question in the Last day!!!!!
If we are made to believe that we are born in sin then it will in some extend allow some of us to make poor judgments and say we are sinful... no the bible doesn't not teach that this original sin and born again concept evolved in the church way later... please refer to Ezekiel 18:20 (ill let u read)
GOD is holy and therefore hates sin! What does HE do with hate when we sin? Does HE supress it? Does HE comprimise? (which means HE will change) No! Offcoarse not! Therefore "HE is JESUS CHRIST, the one who is truly righteous. HE HIMSELF is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world." GOD does not supress sin! GOD does not change...
And WHy is Jesus paying for the Sin of Adam and Eve? So God creates ADAM. Adam sins by eating from the forbidden Tree. Then God becomes a Man and kills himself in order to neutralize that original sin which his creation (adam) commited. What a foolish understanding. Shame on you.
Adam was meant to live forever! He was never meant to die! It is written, "The wages of sin is death!" JESUS died that death eventhough HE was without sin, that whosoever believeth in HIM shall not perish, but receive eternal life. Offcoarse in Islam you believe that you can obtain eternal life by works and fear of GOD! That is because you are from of Ismael the son born of the slave woman Hagar! Not Abrahams wife! Which means the spirit of slavery rest on your prophet Mohammed.
We obtain eternal life by faith JESUS the CHRIST the Messiahs alone! GOD has opened the way not we! So that no man can boast before GOD oneday among the heavenly beings! If you work for your wages, to get paid is not a option anymore, but an obligation, and GOD is never, never, never obligated to do anything! I am not saying that fasting, circumsition is wrong, but these things should only be the sighn of salvation, and not salvation itself! Salvation is nothing other then GOD's grace to man!
My dear children, I am writing this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate who pleads our case before the FATHER. HE is JESUS CHRIST, the one who is truly righteous. HE HIMSELF is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world. 1 John 2:1-2
lol...stop limiting GOD. HE is greater then we can ever think or imagine...who are we to say what HE can and cannot do?! FATHER and SON are only words to describe the attributes of one GOD- FATHER - righteous and holy; SON - love and mercy! This revealed by the prophets in the Koran, Torah and Bible- GOD loves (SON) HIS people, but HE hates (FATHER) their sin! FATHER and SON are only words to describe the attributes of one GOD!
When the SON (love, mercy) was on the cross HE prayed to the FATHER (righteousness,holiness)...why hath THOU forsaken ME! because the fullness of the holy trinity was living in HIM when HE did miracles, sighns and wonders...but the FATHER left the SON on the cross, because the wrath of the FATHER was laid upon the SON! that whosoever believeth in the SON (love, mercy) gets adopted into GOD'S own family by the FATHER! These are the mysteries we now know in part, but oneday will know fully.
Your BIBLE is incorrect. You think your so called "God" Jesus is love, Jesus says YOU must hate your parents to be his disciple:
"If any man come to me, and HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children. . . HE CANNOT be my disciple." LUKE 14:26
What kind of love is this? Your Bible has been corrupted and God revealed the Qur'an which clears many mistakes from the bible. It is from Allah and through the final messenger. Come to Islam.
Sooooo GOD can create another GOD greater then himself? (if he can do anything?). God can create a rock so large that he cannot even lift it with his power (Can he still do anythign now?). God doesnt do foolish things. The second something comes into existence, it is CREATED. Therefore it is under his control. The Son was Created - spent some time in the womb of mary, therefore he is part of the creation. NOT GOD.
Man cannot become GOD, that is blesphamy!! But why cannot GOD become man?? HE is GOD and can do whatever HE wants...HE appeared to Abraham in the form of a man!!! Please stop limiting GOD! That is blesphamy if you ask me!
You blashpheme when you attribute such low level status to the Almighty. When God decrees something it is simply "Be, and it is". Imagine God going to the washroom, bleeding, crying, eating food because he will Die if he doesnt. IF YOUR GOD is EVER LASTING - then by your logic, how can He DIE? You cant have Immortal and mortal at the same time. Thats when you are truly ignorant and follow your faith blindly (most likely cause of your parents or a loved one)
And you better get your head on straight and find the truth, because once you die. Thats it. Times up - Test is over and theres no going back. The Day of Judgement is also called the DAY OF REGRET. Because the disbelivers will regret that they should have not attributed any sons,parterns to God. And Hellfire is their ultimate destination.
GOD revealed HIS love, grace and forgiveness on the cross through the SON! Imagine you offer someone your forgiveness and they dont want to receive it! GOD's arms are always open, revealed by the SON (love, grace and mercy) on the cross, but only for three days! I believe this is a set time for people to receive HIS forgiveness...if they dont HE they will only have HIS wrath, righteousness, holiness (FATHER) to answer too! Me! I humble myself by receiving HIS love and forgiveness.
If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to HIM, HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling GOD a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts. 1 John 1:8-10
I am a Chistian and I like listening to this guy but I can't believe anything he says although I could listen to him all day he does not know the Bible and the Koran is a book full of crap muhammad was not a prophet Jesus is God and I don't care what "Gaberial" "muhammad" or "allah" say because I don't even believe allah is God.
The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
The very Bible denies the original sin: each soul is responsible for its own sins. God is fair, your false god is not: he charges people with sins they did not commit.
Also, in many occasions Jesus calls himself: Barnasha. In Aramaic Bar means "like or son" and "nasha" means man.
The only time he calls himself the "only begotten son" of God is in the gospel of John.
"only begotten son" is a mistranslation, the word in Aramaic is EHEDAYA wich means "different", or "one of a kind". But in no way "his only begotten son".
Renounce your false faith or deal with your hypocrisy.
@aloyblue brother muslim in arabic means person who submit his/his will to allah jesus(pbuh) says in bible "i can of myself do nothing"means he do every thing with the will of god
Muslims accuse christians because of the original sin but muslims speak from both sides of their mouths. you say anyone can be saved even if he or she is not a muslim, just pray to the true God. But the koran says anyone that worships other than allah or sets companions with him will go to hell. by koranic standards everyone will go to hell because almost all religions worship someone or something other than allah!!
No I am willing to Believe Jesus Christ- God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit all three are 1 God they all serve 1 purpose. Jesus Christ is God and muslims will bow before the throne of Jesus when they die.Everyone will be bowing before Jesus Muhammad will bow and so will this guy speaking he will cry and begg Jesus for forgiveness.
statistics ? how about the Iraqi Human rights watch ?? is that an ok source for you ?? or do you just want you lying American media ?
Yes , you have copies of copeis of copies...etc , those scrolls are not the originals , they are COPIES ! any bible scholar will tell you that !!
you know what , this aint goin' no where , you need to open your mind , and stop wasting my time , I'm sick of dealing with fools like you all the time ....you've been already exposed
and I'm tired of your Fakeiyya , why do I hate jews , political reasons , and you never understood the Quran , anyone who actually owns one knows that its concentrated material , not a "once upon a time" story book style like the bible , in order to understand it in context you need to check out the reason of revelation , history and the hadith ....which if you own a quran it is down in the commentary .
have fun being the fool you are , rape in the Quran is ok...typical brainwashed fool !
let me correct you , the Injeel is the revelation GIVEN TO Jesus , not "transmitted by" , Jesus is a prophet not an arc angel .
"Given to" from God to Jesus, and during Jesus's lifetime , he never instructed anyone to write down anything .
The New Testament is supposed to be written by a bunch of "inspired" authors ( by the holy ghost) , so where is the book written by Jesus himself if that is the case ?
LET ME CORRECT YOU JESUS IS GOD. John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." HOW CAN THAT BE, Jesus on Earth & the Father in Heaven and be one God? God can be in two places and transcend space & time. Was Jesus less in "position". Yes Jesus was not in Heaven but was still 100% God AND 100% Man, not man became God or God became man. How can it be 200%? IT IS GOD. Even the Quran says Jesus was born of a Virgin, Sinless, Performed miracles and was resurrected. WHO IS SINLESS? NO ONE but God.
I read your whole debate , and your lies are funny as hell ! typical bashing propaganda , you studied Islam ? i think you studied Anti-Islam , your lies prove it .
The Quran praises the Injeel (revelation given to Jesus) , and the Torah (revelation given to moses) , you got those ?
Which Muslim scholar said the Injeel is the New Testament ? Never heard of one.
Go watch some debates between Muslims and Christians , you might learn a thing or 2 .
WHAT LIES? It's not a debate if you just insult people & CLAIM you're right. FACTS? Get a clue. You have nothing but lies & deception. muslims HAVE NOT one ounce of humility or shame, you're full of your self. Believe as you like but you'll always be Dhimmi, a cursed minority, ruled by the true God's people. There's a reason so many muslims are illiterate, poor, repressed living in fear and violence centers of terrorism in the World, ISLAM FALSE FLAWED EVIL MAN MADE IDEOLOGY. Case closed.
Yeah whatever....Keep yapping...how about you accept the debate challenge by brother am1984ine instead of talking big ? or at least answer the questions I raised , because I'm really interested in knowing your sources , If muslims scholars actually said the New Testament is the Injeel , I'll get baptized tonight .
and by the way "forgive & love thy enemy" turned out to be an addition by a scribe according to most ancient manuscripts , it never existed in the bible .
Where did I say the Injeel is new testament? Show me? Your strawman argument is Pathetic.
FIRST it is spelled Injil & is in Quran 12 times. 3:2, 43, 58; 5:50, 51, 70, 72, 110; 7:156; 9:112; 48:29; 57:27.
It refers to the revelation transmitted by Jesus. WHEN WAS JESUS? The New Testament days. We have 98% of the NEW testament original manuscripts, written during the time or immediately after the time the Lord Walk with Us.
What's your point. Research 1st THAN ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
"Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels." go back and see your posts , I want to know which scholars , then new testament has nothing to do with revelation transmitted through Jesus , and nothing was written down immediately !! The Holy ghost "inspired" writers to write , so where does Jesus come into play ?
and you don't have 98% of the New testament in original manuscripts !
I challenge you to a debate on "the origins of scripture" both Quran and bible
IDIOT, Do you have a google deficiency? Yes it's a typo, Muslim scholars generally dispute the Injil refers to either the entire New Testament or four Gospels, it's a lost book. BORING.
The point u Muslims can't agree & MURDER EACH OTHER (e.g., Sunni & Shiite). No one believes if the world was all muslim it would be a place of peace. Of course that'll never happen, except when the Christians & Jews who come to call Jesus Lord are ruptured. Than it will be true hell on earth. ENJOY.
"Muslim scholars generally dispute the Injil refers to either the entire New Testament or four Gospels" , you know how stupid that sounds ?? which scholar I want to know ! give us a references or a book or something ! every scholar I know doesn't say that , and general Muslim scholars don't say that .
What is stupid about it. JUST BECAUSE YOU NEVER HEARD THIS ITS WRONG? What an arrogant prick you are. No wonder you are attracted to islam. WHO ARE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS? One's with the most bull shit. That's the PROBLEM with islam, Sunni, Shiite, Wahhabism, Dervish and all the sects.
What do Muslim scholars say like idiots like Deedat? He was struck down by God and is dead. Indian idiot Zakir Naik? Even Muslims MOCK him as an idiot that doesn't know ISLAM. Save your games punk, I'm immune.
LOl sorry to use this word but you are '' psychopath'' You have some mental problems also you haven't been taught good manners at all.
You said god stroke ahmed deedat. i say you're an ignorant. Everyone will die one day . your theory is that all people that die are going to hell ! that's what i understood. well you're so wrong you need some education to get in the level of zakir naik. i know u will take this in a bad way can't help it ur programmed to hate the truth :)
I challenge you to debate. Fine bring it on. WE know where the Bible came from WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS. The Quran? It was all destroyed and only "reciters" knew it, who often had different versions of the same sura and often a sura came from only one reciter? Real reliable? Not than it went under many changes and was not finished until 1928 in Egypt.
Before we debate I want ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS AND RESPONSE TO THE VIDEOS & LINKS I POSTED. Explain them to me.
No , thats not going to be arguments , and you don't have the original documents , what you have is copies of copies of copies of copies of the translation of the original , have fun proving those true .
AMERICA is a DEMOCRACY not a Theocracy. Yes we're 80% Christian with superior Judeo-Christian Laws (not barbaric no human rights shariah). We elect representatives, therefore it's a representative DEMOCRACY. Bush SUCKED & made bad decisions.
However in defense 9/11 happened. There are consequences to that. It's called self defense.
Afghanistan, Taliban & Al Qaeda are responsible for 9/11. 15 of 19 hijackers + Bin Laden Saudis.
Saddam? Mass murderer, good riddance. You're welcome World.
Copies of copies? What are you talking about? WE HAVE ORIGINALS, AKA FIRST TEXT EVER WRITTEN: Dead Sea Scrolls (OT) Magdalene Ms (Matthew) John Rylands (name of library where its kept (John) Bodmer Papyrus II (John) Chester Beatty Papyri NT Diatessaron Tatian (Gospels) Codex Vaticanus (Bible) Codex Sinaiticus (Bible) Codex Alexandrinus (Bible) >Is Bible Corrupted =arhNcJqHwxo =yDTOXbUjSrc >Bible/Qur'an Dialogue =b1yxtAg7V4s
and who told you that the Injeel in the Quran is referring to your own bible ? your bible isn't what Jesus taught , nor is it what Jesus preached , and there references to it being corrupt .
The New Testament , a bunch of text that was written decades after Jesus , in the bible we read jesus went somewhere and he "preached to gospel"...you got that Gospel ? that is the Injeel , who cares about John , luke , mark..etc
and btw the word "Injeel" in singular , which means ONE GOSPEL , not 4 .
HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHO JESUS IS & WHAT THE BIBLE IS.
God is ONE with three unique eternal natures. God created the universe & all that's in it, CAN & DID walk in his creation. How? It's GOD!
Jesus is God!
God promised we'd have his complete HOLY WORD & NO OTHER BOOKS or PROPHETS TO COME (except false ones).
ALL OF THE BIBLE IS THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD who has POWER to get his Word published as promised. God got it right the 1st time, NO NEED for Arab DO-OVERS 600 yrs later. Got IT!
Sura 65.4, sex with prepubescent OK! Paste "=ID" into youtube search: >child bride =0h9Fdef_2B4 =yEYuajmVgNM =_BWP9MYDHDk >Ayatollah Khomeini on sex with children =5-1KQW2tYoo >Nightmare Behind the Veil Pakistan (children sex slaves) =BJtOCs5crns treatment of Muslim mother and sister Pakistan =0i_hdWXtnU8 Fix your FILTHY VILE Islamic culture which breads TERRORISM & ABUSE OF WOMAN & CHILDREN before you worry about Jews & Christians.
Why are you people commenting verbally attacking each other this way? How is it relevant to the video? If you like the video, then fine, you like it. If you don't like it, then fine, but you don't have to be so spiteful and angry.
I'm Christian, and I don't agree with this video, but I'm not going to insult this person or his belief. The fact that he loves God is wonderful, and from some of the comments are just shameful. Stop calling each other names, both of you, and watch the darn video!
Peter said: If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, then know this...It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
He is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone." Ps 118:22
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."Acts 4:8-12
the concept or original sin was conceived by the church to pressure the people of the time to convert to christianity. it was a lie, it was deception and it doesnt stand anywhere.
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you'd really love that to be true. Christianity is not dead, there are many faithful christians and the roman catholic church is NOT the place where you will find them. Zakir is Lying, the BIble does not put all the blame on Eve alone, it also puts it on, Adam when he blames Eve which portrays the new condition of his evil heart and of every humans nature. Just know 1 thing my friend. You cannot please God with your good deeds. You are a filthy piece of rotten flesh and only Jesus can save you.
Sure babies helpless. Than for example at age 1.5 or 2 yrs the child refuse to obey or smarts off to the parent? Did the KID get infected with the devil suddenly? Ha ha, no we are ALL imperfect sinners. Muslims are SO FULL OF IT, full of their arrogance, led to believe if they face mecca 5 times daily, mindlessly chant in Arabic (as if God needs arabic), puts bags over women's heads and dance around the Kaaba their HOLLY? LOL! There's only on way to wash the sin away, through Jesus Christ. Amen
There's only one way to wash the sin away, through Jesus Christ. Amen :
Sorry gmcjetpilot ,but we Muslim do not think of god as a washing machine, nor do we think he spits fire and rides angels when pissed off , nor do we believe in a God that is Suicidal, nor do we believe in a god that got murdered by his OWN creation, Consider Islam with care,or ZIP IT cuz you're a shame to whatever religion you follow !
i DON'T CARE WHAT CULT MEMBERS, "Mohammedans" think who follow the cult of a warlord, polygamist, pedophile, liar, possessed, occult believing, mass murdering pagan cult leader. SORRY?
HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS. You don't know the first thing about Jesus or the Father or Holy Spirit (which you mention in the Quran along with the fact Jesus was born a virgin, sinless, performed miracles and whose body was ruptured into heaven (Quran 4:158). MIRICLE! Amen Praise Jesus!
Q29:46 And DO NO argue with the People of the Scripture (CHRISTIANS). We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. (BIBLE = HOLY WORD OF GOD)
Q5:69 Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. (What? Sounds Like Jews & Christians are saved in Islam? LOL!)
It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah 3:3).
Muslim's are arrogant. Islam is unique, based on attacking other peoples faith, religion, culture and nations claiming others NEEDED to be dominated by this evil BEAST called Allah & Islam? I REBUKE U SATANIC ISLAM!
Q10:94 And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those (Christians) who read the Scripture (that was) before thee (Bible). Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee (BIBLE). So be not thou of the waverers.
Q21:7 And We sent not Our messenger before thee other than men (prophets). Ask the followers (Christian) of the reminder if ye know not. (YOU DON'T KNOW SO ASK A CHRISTIAN NOT A LYING MUSLIM)
[021:007] And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation, so ask the followers of the reminder if you do not"
The verse refers to the follower of the INJEEL and TAURAT, and does in no way talk about the letters of paul or the the heresay accounts of the UNKNOWN scirbes of both the New and OLD testament !
Even Muslims think Zakir Naik is a fool. This shows Muslims do NOT know Jesus (because Muslims are deceived by satan who leads them away from YOUR Lord & Savior) Zakir Naik is a Liar! (and fool) Youtube: =bxDI0C9n83E Zakir Naik Fraud & Deception Exposed !!! =MWLh549knKY Muhamamd in the Bible? (Fraud Exposed) Deedat & Naik =gEIc_DIyoL8 Zakir Naik Telling Lie or Not ? Decide yourself =_fVcPRWSP4M Dr Zakir Naik Exposes His lack of Islamic Knowledge =t7zSZ6jHviw
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He says don't judge Islam by what MUSLIMS DO? +13,700 ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACKS SINCE 9/11, KILLING 100's of THOUSANDS. It's irrelevant if its only 10% of Muslims. Islam is the Gas that feeds terrorism.
1) Ontologically, God cannot die a human death, even God in human flesh, therefore this isn't thought as suicide;
2) Epistemologically, Jesus had foreknowledge of the end, self knowledge of his nature, both of which mitigate against common notions of suicide;
3) Teleologically, Jesus not only foreknew the ultimate end but served that end as a mission of love. Suicide as an attempt at non-being, negation of being and to despair. Jesus bears no relationship.
"Jesus... you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men" (Acts 2:23).
According to Matthew's gospel, Jesus himself told his disciples he had to "suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed, and on the third day be raised". Praise Jesus! (Quran agrees 4:158).
Yet you believe in a messenger who believed in "evil eye", spells, thought he was possessed by evil, was depressed and suicidal, all recorded in the hadith. LOL!
Why did you have to resort to web sites to answer my point regarding the suicide of your fire-spitting angle riding god ? don't you have a brain ? or was it just damaged by your belief in the father_son-ghost holy tresome ?
You're insane & sick. Stop your hate. Do your 5 pillars & shut up. Stop your arrogant MUSLIM WAYS: "we're better", Jews are swine and Christians are Shirks, Hindu & Buddhist Infidels, all kuffar that NEED to be judged & dominated or murdered by your stupid evil death cult.
God, my Lord & Savior, will come to Judge everyone, including You. Muslims are NOT Judge, Jury and Executioner. Moses & Jesus didn't pray to Mecca. Allah was NEVER the God of Torah or Bible. You're wrong, repent sinner!
gmcjetpilot : I asked you 2 simple questions: 1)Who are the shcolars you said believe the NT to be the Injeel given to jesus?2)Why did you have to resort to web sites to answer my point regarding the suicide of your fire-spitting angle riding god ? you have been exposed as being a rookie LIAR !
Naming people is irrelevant. GO TO YOUR (evil) QURAN! GO TO YOUR (silly) HADITH FOOL. It's written right there: Surahs 10:94; 21:7; 29:46; 4:136 & 5:46-47,69.
Do you have a Google deficiency? LOOK IT UP!
The word Injil occurs twelve times in the Quran (III, 2, 43, 58; V, 50, 51, 70, 72, 110; VII, 156; IX, 112; XLVIII, 29; LVII, 27) and refers to the revelation transmitted by Isa (Jesus).
HOW STUPID ARE YOU? You're a troll, liar and immature child, but than you're a Muslim, enough said.
You cannot even validate your sources: you , sir, are a FRAUD,
Do you have a Google deficiency? LOOK IT UP!
Re: what kind of prick would ask his counterpart to substantiate his points ? that would be you, you sad ignorant pagan disbeliever, plus, i asked you repeatedly to have a live debate with me, WHY DO YOU CHICKEN OUT ?
We are done, you foul mouth fool punk. You would not say word one like that to my face.
Chicken out? What are talking about punk. LIE? What lie? You have NOT said one intelligent thing or disputed one thing I wrote. So I win hands down. Islam is a false flawed ideology started by a false Arab prophet who made it up with his "Partners" Gabriel (who never existed and Arabs made it up later) and Pagan Moon Idol Allah.
Ha ha don't flatter your self punk. LOL! You are a ridiculous ludacris LIAR.
You have not said one thing but talk crap. That is pathetic. Why bother. I;m 48, have two masters degrees and my title is Captain, B-767. What do you do? Live with your mommy? Beat it loser troll. Run along devil; go pray to your black rock moon idol god, ha ha. Jesus and Moses NEVER prayed to Mecca and Allah was NEVER the God of the Torah or Old & New Testament. You belong to a CULT of death, hate and intolerance.
i thought you deemed "ha ha" to be childish ? man i have confused you so BAD !! What the hell was that; my title is Captain, B-767, hahahahah , your parents must regret not using a condom LOL. Debate me through skype if you were a real man !
This is you, "hahahahahaah". Get over it kid. You embarrassed yourself.
You keep making comments about my parents? What is wrong with you fool.
You BEG me to go to skype? WHY? Is that where you buddies are so you can insult me? No idiot. I will do what ever I want kid, and following you isn't going to happen. I have had enough of your foul ignorant mouth. The good NEWS, this exchange will be on the Internet forever for ALL to see what Islam is, LIES. Repent muzzy, Jesus is Lord, Amen!
That's a PROBLEM muslim. Attack Christiany and the Holy Bible? You realize that the Quran praises and commends the Torah and Bible? You realize that mohammad started claiming he was NOT a new religion but a continuation of Judea Christianity. He claimed he was just like all the other prophets before? (LIE)
HA HA you really need to think that though. All that pagan death cult crap has rotted your brain and made your heart cold & hard to the truth. Jesus Christ is salvation. Islam is death.
The Quran does not talk about the Bible you ignorant,but rather refers to the Torah given to Moses, not the X rated books that you have and which you unjustly call Torah, as for The Gospel given to Issa"jesus" no where in the NT will you find a Gospel according to jesus, but rather, heresay accounts by people who never met jesus,Paul ;to cite a few !
The Quran tells you ignorant Mohammedans to read Bible many times. Christian teaches you the quran. LOL!
Should a Muslim read the Bible?
google: gotquestions org/Quran-reject-Bible
Muslims have no excuse, read the Bible. The Quran commands and praises it: Surahs 10:94; 21:7; 29:46; 4:136 & 5:46-47,69.
Start reading today! Begin with the Gospel of Luke which tells the story of Isa, who alone gives assurance of paradise (which Islam does NOT give unless you martyr suicide bomb yourself).
Quran 29:46- And argue NOT with the People of the Scripture (Christians); and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. (WELL THERE YOU GO, The bad news is Allah has nothing to do with God.)
Q10:93 And We verily did allot unto the Children of Israel a fixed abode (Why do Muslims object to Jews, Israel, when the quran says Jews should have their own Nation, as does the Bible prophesize.)
029:046] If you argue with the people of the scriptures, do it in an amicable manner. But (do not argue) with those of them who are unjust and unfair. Say to them, We believe in that which is sent to us, and that which was sent to you. Our God and your God is only One, and to Him we submit (we are Muslims). This is a call for dialogue, unlike the bibles which order you to kill those who STOP believing in what you call bibles .
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light (Surah 5:44a).
And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (Surah 5:46).
NO BIBLE CURROPTION, JUST YOUR DENIAL OF GOD. (youtube)
Q4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in the Scripture (Bible) which He hath revealed unto His messenger (Jesus), the Scripture (Bible) which He revealed aforetime.
Q5:46 And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel (Bible) wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).
Injil occurs 12 times in Quran (III, 2, 43, 58; V, 50, 51, 70, 72, 110; VII, 156; IX, 112; XLVIII, 29; LVII, 27) and refers to revelations transmitted by Jesus (Isa).
Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels. The word Injil is used in the Quran, the Hadith and early Muslim documents to refer specifically to the revelations made by Jesus (Isa).
Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels: Validate your source.Plus the Quran does indentify the recipient of the INLEEL who was ISSA whom you call jesus, nowhere does it mention the names of the four gosple accounts ALLEDGED writers ;)
Muslims don't even know their own convoluted twisted cult religion. Get your lies straight. As Islam runs into 21st century info age, we see Islams contradictions, errors, lies, false flawed ideology. Muslims kick & scream child like denials. Then Muslims also claim to know Christianity? Muslims speak blasphemy & ignorance.
You say Islam has nothing to do with Judeo-Christianity? I agree! Christianity is true. However your false prophet claimed & pretended to be part of what came before. LOL!
Stop lying and answer my question : who are the Muslim scholars who say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels. You are not intellectually capable of discussing these issues, which explains why you had to resort to pasting passages from the web and take credit for them. Your man-god suicide is very good instance !
Typical anti-Christ Muslim can't win on facts, so they call people ignorant & attack Jesus with stupid comments. I have two masters degrees & studied religion for 25 yrs, including islam. You showed your ignorance & embarrassed yourself. Islam = false flawed ideology of lies, leading people away from God. Do the research your self. Reject Islams evil, superstitious, pagan ritual based hate, violence, intolerance & twsting of Judeo-Christianity. I have the full armor of God. I rebuke your cult.
I have two masters degrees & studied religion for 25 yrs, including islam: Great than, would debate me via skype ? you wrote :I have the full armor of God. I rebuke your cult. then why do you dodge my questions ? surely someone who has spent 25 years studying religion won't have to resort to web posts to answer simple questions.you ,sir, are a FRAUD !
I've not dodged questions you liar. Ask a specific reasonable question, but first do basic research, no repeating ignorance like a parrot. 1st READ The BIBLE, at least read the whole Chapter (google: cc bible). Than google:
muslimhope com
answering-islam org
gotquestions org/Muslim-questions
DO YOU REALLY want to KNOW what Christians and real Scholars believe of Christianity? No; you just want to LIE and claim what you believe by CHOICE (no facts just claims) is true. U R A CULT MEMBER.
Muslims don't believe in what Paul the serial killer wrote, nor do we endorse the pornographic materiel that abounds in your man-altered bibles. WE believe in that which was sent to Moses and jesus, something which seems to be difficult to get into you dense head !
"Muslims don't believe" That's your belief, an ignorant opinion based on lies. Allah was one of 360 pagan Idols w/ 99 names; yet u can't understand God has 3 basic natures? God can do anything, including walk in his creation & guide people through divine inspiration to fulfill his promise we have the true holy word, NO NEED for an Arab "do-over" 600 yrs later. God GOT IT RIGHT the 1st time. Jesus changed everything, not Paul. You believe in one crazy false prophet who "heard voices" never God.
Allah was one of 360 pagan Idols: WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ? plus, The arabic bibles contain the word ALLAH refering to God, i can't blame you for missing that, you're just an uneducated hater !
Proof it is called History, Anthropology, Archaeology, Theology, Linguistics and scholarly research in fields of studies at real reputable Universities all over the world.
You deny that Allah was the name of one of the many (approx 360) pagan Arab idols in Mecca? You deny that the Arabs where pagans including Mohammad and his Father who died a Pagan?
You're some kind of powerful stupid. I can't fight your stupid, typical of Muslims who just fold their arms and say, NO! That's not debating.
Historians (Vaqqidi) have shown Allah was actually the chief of the 360 gods (one for each day of the year) being worshipped in Arabia at the time Muhammad rose to prominence. Ibn Al-Kalbi gave 27 names of pre-Islamic deities.
Not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. TRUTH HURTS! Repent Sinner, Jesus is Lord and Savior. You have been deceived by Satan. Jesus=Salvation, not pagan praying to mecca fool.
The Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek & Aramaic. One true GOD in any language is "Yahweh".
Arabic Bible? LOL! The Bible wasn't translated into Arabic until 1200 yrs after the true revelations of God where give to true prophets of the Torah & Bible. Let's translate, Muslims are DESPERATE TO CLAIM allah is in the Bible & Torah, but their claims are easily shown to be weak false deception, showing Islam is a lie.
hahahahaah, you're ignorance is simply APPALING, give me the name of one single gospel written in ARAMAIC ! all you have is a translation, except where jesus was crying to God, God God why have you foresaken me , yeah it DOES sound like jesus was God, hahaha ; Busted ;)
Go ahead and correct my typos, since you cannot answer my questions, or even validate your sources , what a joke you are , GIVE ME THE NAME OF ONE CHAPTER WRITTEN IN ARAMAIC ?
YES Jesus had a God, The Father. The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are ONE but three different natures. The Father in heaven was GREATER in POSITION as Jesus was on Earth. I and My Father are one. I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 10:30-33 & 14:6-7)
How can one God be three? IT'S GOD! Jesus prayed to the Father to show us how, a greater glory was to come in heaven.
You can't understand that GOD can take three different forms and be in more than one place at a time? This is God who created the UNIVERSE AND ALL THAT IS IN IT, INCLUDING THE EARTH LIFE AND MAN.
ALLAH? 1 of 360 pagan idols with 99 names, yet you can't understand God has 3 separate unique natures in ONE?
Child, try and act like a man. Have an intelligent discussion with a child who writes "hahahahahaah" and "BUSTED ;)" is very annoying. Grow up kid.
Jesus said he was a Man, son of man, the bible says God is not neither a man or a son of man, who do you want me to believe you or the bible scribes. as for haha, and busted, well atleast they are mine and they are genuine, i, atleast, did not resort to web posts to answer a "kid", up for a live debate ?
1st you muslims claim the Holy Word of God, the Bible is corrupt and not part of Islam. Than you claim allah is tied to Bible? LOL!
Islam is SCREWED UP. On one hand totally dependant on Judeo-Christianity for legitimacy with false claims of association. On the other hand islam claims it's a last revelations of Bible, while going 100% against all given to the REAL prophets of the Bible & Torah that came way before.
Moses & Jesus did NOT pray to Mecca or do a Hajj, Pagan Arabs did! WAKE UP!
your stupid, muslims dont tied Allah in the bible, where did you get that? can you please tell me? bible believes in trinity, and the Quran tell's us that Allah (God) is One, you like to piss people off eh? will ill ask you a question, whos your real biological father?
LOL! You're a 20 year old punk; watch your mouth boy, who to subscribes to Tupac Amaru Shakur channels. Rap, disrespect of woman, violence, crimes...just like islam. Makes sense. Are you black? Did you know Islam is racist and mohammad enslaved blacks and called them raisin headed ignorant with hearts donkeys (Ishaq:24 & 450, Quran 9:97, Tabari IX:69 & II:11)
I don't tie the Bible to the filthy Quran which is full of errors in history and science and contradictions and plagarism. YOUTUBE VIDS: >Muslim Black slavery history pJhSejBDTPI >Slavery in Islam today Wk1RzkB7VEM >Islamic Child Abuse/Slavery gdi2bdv4nwA >Past and Modern Day Islam Slavery BWOcuxadDkE >ARABS TRADED 30-40 MILLION 5yaVcKAWccU >ISLAM TRICKS AFRICA INTO SLAVERY Knwhbo451YM
My Father's name is John. He & my Mother raised me who I've known all my life. Dad was a decorated WWII Air Force Colonel, loved God and had great wealth & blessings in business. Thanks for asking loser. Your parents should be ashamed of you, making personal attacks of strangers on the internet. May be your parents raised you to hate? May be you don't know your father or clearly didn't teach you the meaning of being a man, or he's a fool like his son. LOL!
Paul is a serial killer? ha ha Mohammad was in over 80 battles in 20 years and in one day ordered the beheading of 900 Jewish men and boys in front of the woman and children, where he personally beheaded as many as 100 himself. Muslims look on this with pride (evil pride).
Pornography? Have you read in the Quran and hadith Mohammad took baths and fondled a 6yr old, had sex with her at 9 and the MUSLIM PAGAN PARADISE IS FULL OF SEX with Boys and Girls and Wine. LOL!
It's not me who said Paul was a seriel killer, he said that he used to oppress the true followers of jesus and that he handed them to Rome to be beheaded ;) are sure you studied the religion for 20 years or days. as for porn in the bible:There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.Ezekiel 23:20 , what do you think Mr ignorant ?
PORN IN THE BIBLE? HA HA Polygamist x12 Mohammad, a sex pervert molested a 6yr old and F'ed her at 9yrs old (youtube videos cut and paste "-ID" into search) >muslims kill their kids for sex (gets good at 1:40) =ZXWGWaQ9Bko >72 virgins in the Muslim heaven? (gets good at 1:00) =6bosvWzHEr4 >sura 65:4 marry 9 yr old, sodomize young ones =5-1KQW2tYoo >Pedophile =xdrMFuCGmlU >X rated paradise =X-OTE-RY8pE
The bible condones polygamy , does it not ? you ignorant, wasn't Mary you're god'mom 12 when she married old joseph who was 90 years old ? could you debate me now through skype ?
NO where in Bible does it condone polygamy. Google: gotquestions org/polygamy
There you go again with the "you ignorant" (your is the proper word)
"Mary was 12"
Prove it. Scholars have no idea but some estimate 15-17. That is different than sick pervert Mohammad, who tricked Aisha parents into letting him take her at 6. Mohammad the sick bastard, rubbed his dick all over her in the bath, than screwed her at 9. DISGUSTING and it goes on in islam today!
God would be to blame (if it exists). Adam and Eve would have no way of knowing that disobeying God's commandment was evil. The fruit they ate was called the fruit of the knowledge of good or evil. If it was evil to disobey God, Adam and Eve could not have known, and thus were innocent.
epicurusrex 3 months ago
Where you get this 70 virgin and wines , don't tell your words is from islam
Moinuku 7 months ago
Zakir Naik is a fast talking evil man. A total liar and manipulator by overwhelming people with facts and twisted logic with fallacious premises.
Spokonzaga 9 months ago
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In islam If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins with wine and everlasting happiness. Isn't it ridiculous that allah lures man with the promise of women in paradise?
islamfalse 10 months ago
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In islam If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins with wine and everlasting happiness. Isn't it ridiculous that allah lures man with the promise of women in paradise?
islamfalse 10 months ago
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rupee2rupee 11 months ago
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Muhammed = Hitler
Koran = Mein Kampf
Islam = National Socialism
Al Qaeda = Gestapo
Political Correctness = Neville Chamberlain
billyshearsnot 1 year ago
just like ahmed deedat... he talked about this before...
mastera7x 1 year ago 3
all people who listen to Dr zakir, Please it is my humbler request try to listen Osho sometime or read him.
i am well sure you will get some idea that till the hindu remain hindu , muslim remain muslim we cant find piece.
Sanjay2381 1 year ago
it was not Adam or Eve done the sin . It was God who done this sin Becoz he was the one who cr8ed the forbiden tree
dsthegame 1 year ago
@dsthegame Lol. God created everything. Sin is disobedience to the will of God. God cannot sin because he is the one that created and decides what is good or what is sin. :)
lifthz 1 year ago
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And WHy is Jesus paying for the Sin of Adam and Eve? So God creates ADAM. Adam sins by eating from the forbidden Tree. Then God becomes a Man and kills himself in order to neutralize that original sin which his creation (adam) commited. What a foolish understanding. Shame on you.
abdraz1986 1 year ago
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Both Jews and Christians Most Evil Creatures The Christians, Jews and idol worshipers, who do not believe in Mohammed or the Qur'an, are going to burn forever in hell and are the worst creatures on earth (98:6).
This one says it all. Great Religion very tolerant and peaceful to boot.
TheFatzapper 1 year ago
if no one can bear the burden of others, and we dont inherit the consequences of what adam/eve did........then why does a baby inherit the consequences of its mothers sin. eg mother got hepatitis from drug abuse...the baby in her womb isnt born innocent, its condemned with hepatitis because of her mothers sin.
smokeybirdman 1 year ago 5
@smokeybirdman any1 with some logic can refute ur arguement... lets say if a father hits his son then ofcourse the son is going to get hurt, but if the father goes & kills sum1, the police doesnt cone & arrest the son... it would b stupid & against the law.... if u believe in this then would u go 2 jail if the police came to arrest ur father?
salahdin911 1 year ago
@salahdin911 Hmm! of course not, but this isnt what im saying. Adam INTRODUCED sin and death. Consequently we sin and die. Jesus condemned sin(by not sinning) and defeated death(resurrection). In Adam we inherit human nature.(fallen nature that sins and is punished by death) In Christ we are resurrected to live eternally with God. Thats why he is the messiah(saviour) saves us from eternal death, and gives us eternal life. salem.
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman Haha ur pathetic, a mother abuses drugs, its her making the choice to do that, not the unborn baby who cant even think for him/her self fool. Everyone has a mind of their own, its up to them what they CHOSE to do! There is nothing more innocent than a baby, how can u even say a pure innocent sweet baby is a sinner that is just heartless dude, damn christianity has some evil thiings its teaching people. Islam is the way of truth. There is no brotherhood stronger than Islam.
john1136 1 year ago 2
@john1136 Thanks for the nice words. Anyway im not saying that a baby is a sinner!, what I said is this; That we are born suffering 'the consequences' of what Adam did and we are born with a mortal nature prone to sin. Similarily the unfortunate baby born to the junky mum suffers consequences of her actions.
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman If a baby is growing up in wrong enviroment obviously they'll grow up doing wrong, e.g. how black youths are born with out fathers and the result is most of them stereotyped as criminals. We are not born PRONE to sin, it is up to us weather we chose to sin or not. Noone is to blame someone's sin onto others. I can't quite fully understand u to answer u right, but hey forget me look at what brother NAik is sayin, thats the best answer. Peace.
john1136 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
Smokey, if u mean " taking drugs" is the sin, the child doesn't inhert that sin as the child cud be a good man after that, if you believe that the " hypatites" is the sin, no bro, hypatites is not a sin, it is a disease resulting from making a sin which is " taking drugs"... got it?
MyLifeIsForAllah 1 year ago
@MyLifeIsForAllah shabeb Im not saying the child 'sins'! Im saying the child 'suffers the consequences' of its mother's sin (drug taking) yes the child could grow to be a good person, but the child has hepatitis not because it took drugs but because its mum took drugs; thus the child suffers because of mum. salem/Allah ma'eck. :)
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
Ok but the bible says that you " Don't inhert the sequeces" it says you are born " sinful"..!
MyLifeIsForAllah 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
But the original sin doctorine doesn't say " suffer the consequences ", it says " sinful"..!
MyLifeIsForAllah 1 year ago
@MyLifeIsForAllah yes! but the 'consequences' of their disobedience was mortality and eventually death, instead of eternal life. Thus we as humans and their children also age and die, this is mortality! and this 'mortality' is prone to sin and suffer and age and die. Its our very human/mortal nature that we inherit from our parents Adam/Eve....we inherit this nature instead of a perfect nature that is eternal and perfect. For this nature will come when resurrected to live with God forever.
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman ts our very human/mortal nature that we inherit from our parents Adam/Eve
the devil also sinned. Does that mean we are similar to Devil in nature as well.
u say v inherited Adam & Eve's [a.s] nature of committing sin BUT v also gained their nature of asking forgiveness/repentance from God. Because that is wat God commanded Adam & Eve [as] to do.To seek forgiveness wen doing sin
God forgave Adam & Eve so how come we are responsible for their sin.
younib100 1 year ago
@younib100 Christianity teaches Original Sin, which is misunderstood by Muslims. Original Sin simply upholds God’s Law: “Like begets like.” (Gen. 1:24) Since God cannot breaks His own law, a perfect God created a perfect man (Adam). When Adam, by his own choice sinned, he made himself imperfect. As “Like must beget like,” the imperfect man (Adam) begot an imperfect children who had within their nature a tendency toward sin. Original Sin is simply a state of imperfection passed down.
123dsj123 1 year ago
ahan. original sin holds that devil in shape of serpant tricked eve [r.a] to convince adam [a.s] of eating the forbidden fruit. which caused the 'first sin' ur account is wrong as well mate.
adam [pbuh] wasnt imperfect. his sign of perfection is that wen the *sin* happened he then repented to God on earth which was accepted.
us on the other hand are far away from that aspect. v sin constantly knowingly & unknowingly & dont even repent for the most part. so my dear v are imperfect
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younib100 1 year ago
God created us in such a way that v feel weakness & 'temptation' & adam & eve pbuh were the proof of this. its natural to commit sin mate BUT the humanity lies in were we willingly seek forgiveness from God & then to the best of our ability dont commit that sin again.
adam & eve [pbuh] were tricked by devil agreed but it was devil that did the first sin by refusing God not adam [pbuh]. uunlike devil who didnt seek forgiveness Adam for his MISTAKE seekd forgiveness & dat is human perfection
younib100 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
so that also means, that if your father robs a bank and kills a few people, and disappears... so the police cant catch him, but instead they take you in jail?? because you are his son?? or even reverse, you did the mistake, and your father has to be punished for it?? no my friend.
the child can't choose, he is innocent, but the mother can choose what she is going to do and what not. that the child is ill for the reason you mentioned, is the fault of his mother. she chose to.
JKDlegend 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
you know the saying: " you are what you eat"..??
right this is the case of your question... you are what your parents teach you, what they educate you... the baby is what his mother eats and does.
the mother knows, that what will happen if she does this and that.
... my friend try to understand the logic.
JKDlegend 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman having hepatitis or diabetes or any other disease CAN NOT send you to hell. disease is not a sin get your fact right. funny ppl!
halakukhan 1 year ago
@halakukhan salem! I didnt say anything like that. Simply that children inherit 'consequences' of decisions made by their parents. Also i didnt mention diabetes. Salem. ps speaking about facts, the fact is hell is the grave. Death is final and is similar to before you were born...nothing! Death is the result of sin, and the only hope of eternal life is in 'The Way, the Truth and the LIFE' salem!
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman
This is not a sin, this is a disease.
MyLifeIsForAllah 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman oh wow. does every mother in the world have hepatitis ?? yes a child will get effected if his/her mother has hepatitis but ever heard the saying 'prevention is better than cure' this is wat Islam says. Avoid doing things that will lead u to have such stupid diseases & guilt
there are 100s of women who can't get pregnant.Are they mother mary [r.a] reborn ??
there are tons of guys that can't become fathers due to complications.Are they the chosen men of God for heaven ?? xD
younib100 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman Stupid man, a baby born with a disease means it a medical disease. Not because of the sins of the mother.
BoyBangla 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman no man thats sin is bearing by mother some child are also having hepatits even their mother is not taking drugs
iremindyou 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman Bad logic. If a baby dies of Aids because his mom had AIds does this make the baby go to hell? You have to differ between sin and disease.
DrXoz 1 year ago
@DrXoz Disease is a result of sin. Before Adam/Eve sin there was no disease/death. It is a result/consequence of sin.
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman Because before Adam And Eve there was no humans! Again you sound like disease's automaticly posts you to hell. You have to differ between sin and disease. You make it look like they are the same thing which even goes against your own book Deuteronomy 24:16. Here dr zakir naik talks about the hereafter and you comment like the hereafter is as in this world. Disiease is not result of sin. Tell me when you got a cold does this mean you got it because you or urparen sinned?
DrXoz 1 year ago
@smokeybirdman see the babe will be born sinless in the eyes of GOD... but the mother will pay for her choices!!!!! the child in no way will answer his mom question in the Last day!!!!!
If we are made to believe that we are born in sin then it will in some extend allow some of us to make poor judgments and say we are sinful... no the bible doesn't not teach that this original sin and born again concept evolved in the church way later... please refer to Ezekiel 18:20 (ill let u read)
mskorkoss 1 year ago
GOD is holy and therefore hates sin! What does HE do with hate when we sin? Does HE supress it? Does HE comprimise? (which means HE will change) No! Offcoarse not! Therefore "HE is JESUS CHRIST, the one who is truly righteous. HE HIMSELF is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world." GOD does not supress sin! GOD does not change...
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
And WHy is Jesus paying for the Sin of Adam and Eve? So God creates ADAM. Adam sins by eating from the forbidden Tree. Then God becomes a Man and kills himself in order to neutralize that original sin which his creation (adam) commited. What a foolish understanding. Shame on you.
furnis1 1 year ago
Adam was meant to live forever! He was never meant to die! It is written, "The wages of sin is death!" JESUS died that death eventhough HE was without sin, that whosoever believeth in HIM shall not perish, but receive eternal life. Offcoarse in Islam you believe that you can obtain eternal life by works and fear of GOD! That is because you are from of Ismael the son born of the slave woman Hagar! Not Abrahams wife! Which means the spirit of slavery rest on your prophet Mohammed.
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
We obtain eternal life by faith JESUS the CHRIST the Messiahs alone! GOD has opened the way not we! So that no man can boast before GOD oneday among the heavenly beings! If you work for your wages, to get paid is not a option anymore, but an obligation, and GOD is never, never, never obligated to do anything! I am not saying that fasting, circumsition is wrong, but these things should only be the sighn of salvation, and not salvation itself! Salvation is nothing other then GOD's grace to man!
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
My dear children, I am writing this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate who pleads our case before the FATHER. HE is JESUS CHRIST, the one who is truly righteous. HE HIMSELF is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world. 1 John 2:1-2
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
God sacrificed himself? Who was looking at the universe when GOD was in the tomb?
furnis1 1 year ago
lol...stop limiting GOD. HE is greater then we can ever think or imagine...who are we to say what HE can and cannot do?! FATHER and SON are only words to describe the attributes of one GOD- FATHER - righteous and holy; SON - love and mercy! This revealed by the prophets in the Koran, Torah and Bible- GOD loves (SON) HIS people, but HE hates (FATHER) their sin! FATHER and SON are only words to describe the attributes of one GOD!
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
When the SON (love, mercy) was on the cross HE prayed to the FATHER (righteousness,holiness)...why hath THOU forsaken ME! because the fullness of the holy trinity was living in HIM when HE did miracles, sighns and wonders...but the FATHER left the SON on the cross, because the wrath of the FATHER was laid upon the SON! that whosoever believeth in the SON (love, mercy) gets adopted into GOD'S own family by the FATHER! These are the mysteries we now know in part, but oneday will know fully.
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
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furnis1 1 year ago
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Your BIBLE is incorrect. You think your so called "God" Jesus is love, Jesus says YOU must hate your parents to be his disciple:
"If any man come to me, and HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children. . . HE CANNOT be my disciple." LUKE 14:26
What kind of love is this? Your Bible has been corrupted and God revealed the Qur'an which clears many mistakes from the bible. It is from Allah and through the final messenger. Come to Islam.
furnis1 1 year ago
Sooooo GOD can create another GOD greater then himself? (if he can do anything?). God can create a rock so large that he cannot even lift it with his power (Can he still do anythign now?). God doesnt do foolish things. The second something comes into existence, it is CREATED. Therefore it is under his control. The Son was Created - spent some time in the womb of mary, therefore he is part of the creation. NOT GOD.
furnis1 1 year ago
Man cannot become GOD, that is blesphamy!! But why cannot GOD become man?? HE is GOD and can do whatever HE wants...HE appeared to Abraham in the form of a man!!! Please stop limiting GOD! That is blesphamy if you ask me!
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
You blashpheme when you attribute such low level status to the Almighty. When God decrees something it is simply "Be, and it is". Imagine God going to the washroom, bleeding, crying, eating food because he will Die if he doesnt. IF YOUR GOD is EVER LASTING - then by your logic, how can He DIE? You cant have Immortal and mortal at the same time. Thats when you are truly ignorant and follow your faith blindly (most likely cause of your parents or a loved one)
furnis1 1 year ago
And you better get your head on straight and find the truth, because once you die. Thats it. Times up - Test is over and theres no going back. The Day of Judgement is also called the DAY OF REGRET. Because the disbelivers will regret that they should have not attributed any sons,parterns to God. And Hellfire is their ultimate destination.
furnis1 1 year ago
GOD revealed HIS love, grace and forgiveness on the cross through the SON! Imagine you offer someone your forgiveness and they dont want to receive it! GOD's arms are always open, revealed by the SON (love, grace and mercy) on the cross, but only for three days! I believe this is a set time for people to receive HIS forgiveness...if they dont HE they will only have HIS wrath, righteousness, holiness (FATHER) to answer too! Me! I humble myself by receiving HIS love and forgiveness.
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to HIM, HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling GOD a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts. 1 John 1:8-10
GRACE001ful 1 year ago
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Complete whitewash of Christian theology:
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zakuk77 1 year ago
I am a Chistian and I like listening to this guy but I can't believe anything he says although I could listen to him all day he does not know the Bible and the Koran is a book full of crap muhammad was not a prophet Jesus is God and I don't care what "Gaberial" "muhammad" or "allah" say because I don't even believe allah is God.
Jerseygirl8999 2 years ago
Read and renounce your devil faith:
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
The very Bible denies the original sin: each soul is responsible for its own sins. God is fair, your false god is not: he charges people with sins they did not commit.
Victortrotska 1 year ago
Also, in many occasions Jesus calls himself: Barnasha. In Aramaic Bar means "like or son" and "nasha" means man.
The only time he calls himself the "only begotten son" of God is in the gospel of John.
"only begotten son" is a mistranslation, the word in Aramaic is EHEDAYA wich means "different", or "one of a kind". But in no way "his only begotten son".
Renounce your false faith or deal with your hypocrisy.
Victortrotska 1 year ago
muslim means he who submitted to gods will Jesus submitted his will therefore he is a muslim;)
G0DIS0NE 2 years ago
aloyblue...plz tell me where is it written in the bible that Jesus claimed himself God!!
teenpwincess1 2 years ago
nick u said that Jesus Christ is a muslim.
did Jesus Christ said that he is a muslim ?
show me in the bible where it is written ?
aloyblue 2 years ago
@aloyblue brother muslim in arabic means person who submit his/his will to allah jesus(pbuh) says in bible "i can of myself do nothing"means he do every thing with the will of god
rehman122 2 years ago
Listen Dr zakir naik lecture Care fully you will know
You are people who don't want to accept just want to blame and argument
sheikhbpl 2 years ago
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Muslims accuse christians because of the original sin but muslims speak from both sides of their mouths. you say anyone can be saved even if he or she is not a muslim, just pray to the true God. But the koran says anyone that worships other than allah or sets companions with him will go to hell. by koranic standards everyone will go to hell because almost all religions worship someone or something other than allah!!
duio 2 years ago
r u ready to belive two people are your father ?>
sweetmaanu 2 years ago
No I am willing to Believe Jesus Christ- God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit all three are 1 God they all serve 1 purpose. Jesus Christ is God and muslims will bow before the throne of Jesus when they die.Everyone will be bowing before Jesus Muhammad will bow and so will this guy speaking he will cry and begg Jesus for forgiveness.
Jerseygirl8999 2 years ago
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thepedomo 2 years ago
because he always beat christians right ! u people don't like the truth you love illusions
SimoDluffy 2 years ago
illusion ?? truth..... are u on crack ?
thepedomo 2 years ago
whatever !
SimoDluffy 2 years ago
Untrue.
qubezo 2 years ago
100% correct
aloyblue 2 years ago
mashallah, makes us glad that Allah blessed us with Islam
officialpeacetv 2 years ago 18
statistics ? how about the Iraqi Human rights watch ?? is that an ok source for you ?? or do you just want you lying American media ?
Yes , you have copies of copeis of copies...etc , those scrolls are not the originals , they are COPIES ! any bible scholar will tell you that !!
you know what , this aint goin' no where , you need to open your mind , and stop wasting my time , I'm sick of dealing with fools like you all the time ....you've been already exposed
learn a bit
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Tchado1000 2 years ago
and I'm tired of your Fakeiyya , why do I hate jews , political reasons , and you never understood the Quran , anyone who actually owns one knows that its concentrated material , not a "once upon a time" story book style like the bible , in order to understand it in context you need to check out the reason of revelation , history and the hadith ....which if you own a quran it is down in the commentary .
have fun being the fool you are , rape in the Quran is ok...typical brainwashed fool !
Tchado1000 2 years ago
let me correct you , the Injeel is the revelation GIVEN TO Jesus , not "transmitted by" , Jesus is a prophet not an arc angel .
"Given to" from God to Jesus, and during Jesus's lifetime , he never instructed anyone to write down anything .
The New Testament is supposed to be written by a bunch of "inspired" authors ( by the holy ghost) , so where is the book written by Jesus himself if that is the case ?
Tchado1000 2 years ago
LET ME CORRECT YOU JESUS IS GOD. John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." HOW CAN THAT BE, Jesus on Earth & the Father in Heaven and be one God? God can be in two places and transcend space & time. Was Jesus less in "position". Yes Jesus was not in Heaven but was still 100% God AND 100% Man, not man became God or God became man. How can it be 200%? IT IS GOD. Even the Quran says Jesus was born of a Virgin, Sinless, Performed miracles and was resurrected. WHO IS SINLESS? NO ONE but God.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
I read your whole debate , and your lies are funny as hell ! typical bashing propaganda , you studied Islam ? i think you studied Anti-Islam , your lies prove it .
The Quran praises the Injeel (revelation given to Jesus) , and the Torah (revelation given to moses) , you got those ?
Which Muslim scholar said the Injeel is the New Testament ? Never heard of one.
Go watch some debates between Muslims and Christians , you might learn a thing or 2 .
Tchado1000 2 years ago
WHAT LIES? It's not a debate if you just insult people & CLAIM you're right. FACTS? Get a clue. You have nothing but lies & deception. muslims HAVE NOT one ounce of humility or shame, you're full of your self. Believe as you like but you'll always be Dhimmi, a cursed minority, ruled by the true God's people. There's a reason so many muslims are illiterate, poor, repressed living in fear and violence centers of terrorism in the World, ISLAM FALSE FLAWED EVIL MAN MADE IDEOLOGY. Case closed.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Yeah whatever....Keep yapping...how about you accept the debate challenge by brother am1984ine instead of talking big ? or at least answer the questions I raised , because I'm really interested in knowing your sources , If muslims scholars actually said the New Testament is the Injeel , I'll get baptized tonight .
and by the way "forgive & love thy enemy" turned out to be an addition by a scribe according to most ancient manuscripts , it never existed in the bible .
Tchado1000 2 years ago
Where did I say the Injeel is new testament? Show me? Your strawman argument is Pathetic.
FIRST it is spelled Injil & is in Quran 12 times. 3:2, 43, 58; 5:50, 51, 70, 72, 110; 7:156; 9:112; 48:29; 57:27.
It refers to the revelation transmitted by Jesus. WHEN WAS JESUS? The New Testament days. We have 98% of the NEW testament original manuscripts, written during the time or immediately after the time the Lord Walk with Us.
What's your point. Research 1st THAN ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels." go back and see your posts , I want to know which scholars , then new testament has nothing to do with revelation transmitted through Jesus , and nothing was written down immediately !! The Holy ghost "inspired" writers to write , so where does Jesus come into play ?
and you don't have 98% of the New testament in original manuscripts !
I challenge you to a debate on "the origins of scripture" both Quran and bible
Tchado1000 2 years ago
IDIOT, Do you have a google deficiency? Yes it's a typo, Muslim scholars generally dispute the Injil refers to either the entire New Testament or four Gospels, it's a lost book. BORING.
The point u Muslims can't agree & MURDER EACH OTHER (e.g., Sunni & Shiite). No one believes if the world was all muslim it would be a place of peace. Of course that'll never happen, except when the Christians & Jews who come to call Jesus Lord are ruptured. Than it will be true hell on earth. ENJOY.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"Muslim scholars generally dispute the Injil refers to either the entire New Testament or four Gospels" , you know how stupid that sounds ?? which scholar I want to know ! give us a references or a book or something ! every scholar I know doesn't say that , and general Muslim scholars don't say that .
Tchado1000 2 years ago
What is stupid about it. JUST BECAUSE YOU NEVER HEARD THIS ITS WRONG? What an arrogant prick you are. No wonder you are attracted to islam. WHO ARE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS? One's with the most bull shit. That's the PROBLEM with islam, Sunni, Shiite, Wahhabism, Dervish and all the sects.
What do Muslim scholars say like idiots like Deedat? He was struck down by God and is dead. Indian idiot Zakir Naik? Even Muslims MOCK him as an idiot that doesn't know ISLAM. Save your games punk, I'm immune.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
LOl sorry to use this word but you are '' psychopath'' You have some mental problems also you haven't been taught good manners at all.
You said god stroke ahmed deedat. i say you're an ignorant. Everyone will die one day . your theory is that all people that die are going to hell ! that's what i understood. well you're so wrong you need some education to get in the level of zakir naik. i know u will take this in a bad way can't help it ur programmed to hate the truth :)
SimoDluffy 2 years ago
I challenge you to debate. Fine bring it on. WE know where the Bible came from WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS. The Quran? It was all destroyed and only "reciters" knew it, who often had different versions of the same sura and often a sura came from only one reciter? Real reliable? Not than it went under many changes and was not finished until 1928 in Egypt.
Before we debate I want ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS AND RESPONSE TO THE VIDEOS & LINKS I POSTED. Explain them to me.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
No , thats not going to be arguments , and you don't have the original documents , what you have is copies of copies of copies of copies of the translation of the original , have fun proving those true .
Tchado1000 2 years ago
AMERICA is a DEMOCRACY not a Theocracy. Yes we're 80% Christian with superior Judeo-Christian Laws (not barbaric no human rights shariah). We elect representatives, therefore it's a representative DEMOCRACY. Bush SUCKED & made bad decisions.
However in defense 9/11 happened. There are consequences to that. It's called self defense.
Afghanistan, Taliban & Al Qaeda are responsible for 9/11. 15 of 19 hijackers + Bin Laden Saudis.
Saddam? Mass murderer, good riddance. You're welcome World.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
and who told you that the Injeel in the Quran is referring to your own bible ? your bible isn't what Jesus taught , nor is it what Jesus preached , and there references to it being corrupt .
The New Testament , a bunch of text that was written decades after Jesus , in the bible we read jesus went somewhere and he "preached to gospel"...you got that Gospel ? that is the Injeel , who cares about John , luke , mark..etc
and btw the word "Injeel" in singular , which means ONE GOSPEL , not 4 .
Tchado1000 2 years ago
HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHO JESUS IS & WHAT THE BIBLE IS.
God is ONE with three unique eternal natures. God created the universe & all that's in it, CAN & DID walk in his creation. How? It's GOD!
Jesus is God!
God promised we'd have his complete HOLY WORD & NO OTHER BOOKS or PROPHETS TO COME (except false ones).
ALL OF THE BIBLE IS THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD who has POWER to get his Word published as promised. God got it right the 1st time, NO NEED for Arab DO-OVERS 600 yrs later. Got IT!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Arrogant little Boy google these:
reclinercommentaries com/2009/08/christian-girl-faces-possible-death
petercglover com/wiresblog/2009/8/19/christian-girls-under-iranian-threat-of-death
keeptonyblairforpm wordpress com/2009/08/11/executing-virgins-iran-style
2005_Indonesian_beheadings_of_Christian_girls
jihadwatch org/dhimmiwatch Iran 30 converts from Islam to Christianity arrested
WHY ARE MUSLIMS NOT OUTRAGED? Why does Islam resort to fear & TERRORISM (fact) if it's great?
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Naik avoiding answering a question, the LONG way!
watch?v=ke32l6xKF6k
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Why are you people commenting verbally attacking each other this way? How is it relevant to the video? If you like the video, then fine, you like it. If you don't like it, then fine, but you don't have to be so spiteful and angry.
I'm Christian, and I don't agree with this video, but I'm not going to insult this person or his belief. The fact that he loves God is wonderful, and from some of the comments are just shameful. Stop calling each other names, both of you, and watch the darn video!
SundayRoseDE 2 years ago
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Peter said: If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, then know this...It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
He is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone." Ps 118:22
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."Acts 4:8-12
snnicky 2 years ago
the concept or original sin was conceived by the church to pressure the people of the time to convert to christianity. it was a lie, it was deception and it doesnt stand anywhere.
what a total bullshit
zakir naik is great.
szuberi 2 years ago
I have tried a number of times to post a video responce ( A challenge to all Muslim scholars) but have always been blocked.
Let the truth be known.
Christthebridge 2 years ago
right now we can see your message, none of your message is blocked...
fawadkabuli 2 years ago
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you'd really love that to be true. Christianity is not dead, there are many faithful christians and the roman catholic church is NOT the place where you will find them. Zakir is Lying, the BIble does not put all the blame on Eve alone, it also puts it on, Adam when he blames Eve which portrays the new condition of his evil heart and of every humans nature. Just know 1 thing my friend. You cannot please God with your good deeds. You are a filthy piece of rotten flesh and only Jesus can save you.
aldoivan16 2 years ago
Sure babies helpless. Than for example at age 1.5 or 2 yrs the child refuse to obey or smarts off to the parent? Did the KID get infected with the devil suddenly? Ha ha, no we are ALL imperfect sinners. Muslims are SO FULL OF IT, full of their arrogance, led to believe if they face mecca 5 times daily, mindlessly chant in Arabic (as if God needs arabic), puts bags over women's heads and dance around the Kaaba their HOLLY? LOL! There's only on way to wash the sin away, through Jesus Christ. Amen
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
There's only one way to wash the sin away, through Jesus Christ. Amen :
Sorry gmcjetpilot ,but we Muslim do not think of god as a washing machine, nor do we think he spits fire and rides angels when pissed off , nor do we believe in a God that is Suicidal, nor do we believe in a god that got murdered by his OWN creation, Consider Islam with care,or ZIP IT cuz you're a shame to whatever religion you follow !
am1984ine 2 years ago
i DON'T CARE WHAT CULT MEMBERS, "Mohammedans" think who follow the cult of a warlord, polygamist, pedophile, liar, possessed, occult believing, mass murdering pagan cult leader. SORRY?
HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS. You don't know the first thing about Jesus or the Father or Holy Spirit (which you mention in the Quran along with the fact Jesus was born a virgin, sinless, performed miracles and whose body was ruptured into heaven (Quran 4:158). MIRICLE! Amen Praise Jesus!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Q29:46 And DO NO argue with the People of the Scripture (CHRISTIANS). We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. (BIBLE = HOLY WORD OF GOD)
Q5:69 Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. (What? Sounds Like Jews & Christians are saved in Islam? LOL!)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah 3:3).
Muslim's are arrogant. Islam is unique, based on attacking other peoples faith, religion, culture and nations claiming others NEEDED to be dominated by this evil BEAST called Allah & Islam? I REBUKE U SATANIC ISLAM!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Q10:94 And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those (Christians) who read the Scripture (that was) before thee (Bible). Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee (BIBLE). So be not thou of the waverers.
Q21:7 And We sent not Our messenger before thee other than men (prophets). Ask the followers (Christian) of the reminder if ye know not. (YOU DON'T KNOW SO ASK A CHRISTIAN NOT A LYING MUSLIM)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Shakir:
[021:007] And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation, so ask the followers of the reminder if you do not"
The verse refers to the follower of the INJEEL and TAURAT, and does in no way talk about the letters of paul or the the heresay accounts of the UNKNOWN scirbes of both the New and OLD testament !
am1984ine 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Typical Muslim making up things:
Surplus Woman Zakir Naik Exposed
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Dr Zakir Naik Exposes His IDIOT'S MIND
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Zakir Naik-Specious explanation about bin Laden and Taliban
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He says don't judge Islam by what MUSLIMS DO? +13,700 ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACKS SINCE 9/11, KILLING 100's of THOUSANDS. It's irrelevant if its only 10% of Muslims. Islam is the Gas that feeds terrorism.
Google: thereligionofpeace com
Muslims killing muslims? Peace? LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"Believe in a God that's Suicidal"
1) Ontologically, God cannot die a human death, even God in human flesh, therefore this isn't thought as suicide;
2) Epistemologically, Jesus had foreknowledge of the end, self knowledge of his nature, both of which mitigate against common notions of suicide;
3) Teleologically, Jesus not only foreknew the ultimate end but served that end as a mission of love. Suicide as an attempt at non-being, negation of being and to despair. Jesus bears no relationship.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"believe God is Suicidal"
"Jesus... you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men" (Acts 2:23).
According to Matthew's gospel, Jesus himself told his disciples he had to "suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed, and on the third day be raised". Praise Jesus! (Quran agrees 4:158).
Yet you believe in a messenger who believed in "evil eye", spells, thought he was possessed by evil, was depressed and suicidal, all recorded in the hadith. LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Why did you have to resort to web sites to answer my point regarding the suicide of your fire-spitting angle riding god ? don't you have a brain ? or was it just damaged by your belief in the father_son-ghost holy tresome ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
You're insane & sick. Stop your hate. Do your 5 pillars & shut up. Stop your arrogant MUSLIM WAYS: "we're better", Jews are swine and Christians are Shirks, Hindu & Buddhist Infidels, all kuffar that NEED to be judged & dominated or murdered by your stupid evil death cult.
God, my Lord & Savior, will come to Judge everyone, including You. Muslims are NOT Judge, Jury and Executioner. Moses & Jesus didn't pray to Mecca. Allah was NEVER the God of Torah or Bible. You're wrong, repent sinner!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot : I asked you 2 simple questions: 1)Who are the shcolars you said believe the NT to be the Injeel given to jesus?2)Why did you have to resort to web sites to answer my point regarding the suicide of your fire-spitting angle riding god ? you have been exposed as being a rookie LIAR !
am1984ine 2 years ago
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gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Naming people is irrelevant. GO TO YOUR (evil) QURAN! GO TO YOUR (silly) HADITH FOOL. It's written right there: Surahs 10:94; 21:7; 29:46; 4:136 & 5:46-47,69.
Do you have a Google deficiency? LOOK IT UP!
The word Injil occurs twelve times in the Quran (III, 2, 43, 58; V, 50, 51, 70, 72, 110; VII, 156; IX, 112; XLVIII, 29; LVII, 27) and refers to the revelation transmitted by Isa (Jesus).
HOW STUPID ARE YOU? You're a troll, liar and immature child, but than you're a Muslim, enough said.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
You cannot even validate your sources: you , sir, are a FRAUD,
Do you have a Google deficiency? LOOK IT UP!
Re: what kind of prick would ask his counterpart to substantiate his points ? that would be you, you sad ignorant pagan disbeliever, plus, i asked you repeatedly to have a live debate with me, WHY DO YOU CHICKEN OUT ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
What source validation what source?
"What kind of prick....."?
We are done, you foul mouth fool punk. You would not say word one like that to my face.
Chicken out? What are talking about punk. LIE? What lie? You have NOT said one intelligent thing or disputed one thing I wrote. So I win hands down. Islam is a false flawed ideology started by a false Arab prophet who made it up with his "Partners" Gabriel (who never existed and Arabs made it up later) and Pagan Moon Idol Allah.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
WHY ARE YOU ACTING DUMB ? I HIT YOUR PSYCHE HARD you are simply afraid of me , and you are an exposed liar who resort to web post whenever busted
am1984ine 2 years ago
Ha ha don't flatter your self punk. LOL! You are a ridiculous ludacris LIAR.
You have not said one thing but talk crap. That is pathetic. Why bother. I;m 48, have two masters degrees and my title is Captain, B-767. What do you do? Live with your mommy? Beat it loser troll. Run along devil; go pray to your black rock moon idol god, ha ha. Jesus and Moses NEVER prayed to Mecca and Allah was NEVER the God of the Torah or Old & New Testament. You belong to a CULT of death, hate and intolerance.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
I give you all the references and you still deny?
DO YOU HAVE A GOOGLE DEFICIENCY? Ha ha you look it up kid, I have researched this for 24 years and you don't know crap.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
i thought you deemed "ha ha" to be childish ? man i have confused you so BAD !! What the hell was that; my title is Captain, B-767, hahahahah , your parents must regret not using a condom LOL. Debate me through skype if you were a real man !
am1984ine 2 years ago
This is you, "hahahahahaah". Get over it kid. You embarrassed yourself.
You keep making comments about my parents? What is wrong with you fool.
You BEG me to go to skype? WHY? Is that where you buddies are so you can insult me? No idiot. I will do what ever I want kid, and following you isn't going to happen. I have had enough of your foul ignorant mouth. The good NEWS, this exchange will be on the Internet forever for ALL to see what Islam is, LIES. Repent muzzy, Jesus is Lord, Amen!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Bible is a book of super Fiction and the Church is nothing more than a racket.
xamarconnect 3 years ago 7
That's a PROBLEM muslim. Attack Christiany and the Holy Bible? You realize that the Quran praises and commends the Torah and Bible? You realize that mohammad started claiming he was NOT a new religion but a continuation of Judea Christianity. He claimed he was just like all the other prophets before? (LIE)
HA HA you really need to think that though. All that pagan death cult crap has rotted your brain and made your heart cold & hard to the truth. Jesus Christ is salvation. Islam is death.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The Quran does not talk about the Bible you ignorant,but rather refers to the Torah given to Moses, not the X rated books that you have and which you unjustly call Torah, as for The Gospel given to Issa"jesus" no where in the NT will you find a Gospel according to jesus, but rather, heresay accounts by people who never met jesus,Paul ;to cite a few !
am1984ine 2 years ago
The Quran tells you ignorant Mohammedans to read Bible many times. Christian teaches you the quran. LOL!
Should a Muslim read the Bible?
google: gotquestions org/Quran-reject-Bible
Muslims have no excuse, read the Bible. The Quran commands and praises it: Surahs 10:94; 21:7; 29:46; 4:136 & 5:46-47,69.
Start reading today! Begin with the Gospel of Luke which tells the story of Isa, who alone gives assurance of paradise (which Islam does NOT give unless you martyr suicide bomb yourself).
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Quran 29:46- And argue NOT with the People of the Scripture (Christians); and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. (WELL THERE YOU GO, The bad news is Allah has nothing to do with God.)
Q10:93 And We verily did allot unto the Children of Israel a fixed abode (Why do Muslims object to Jews, Israel, when the quran says Jews should have their own Nation, as does the Bible prophesize.)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
029:046] If you argue with the people of the scriptures, do it in an amicable manner. But (do not argue) with those of them who are unjust and unfair. Say to them, We believe in that which is sent to us, and that which was sent to you. Our God and your God is only One, and to Him we submit (we are Muslims). This is a call for dialogue, unlike the bibles which order you to kill those who STOP believing in what you call bibles .
am1984ine 2 years ago
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light (Surah 5:44a).
And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (Surah 5:46).
NO BIBLE CURROPTION, JUST YOUR DENIAL OF GOD. (youtube)
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gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Q4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in the Scripture (Bible) which He hath revealed unto His messenger (Jesus), the Scripture (Bible) which He revealed aforetime.
Q5:46 And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel (Bible) wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
You keep on insisting that the Quran speaks about the bible: IT DOES NOT ! All the verses you quoted are irrelevant ! LOL
am1984ine 2 years ago
Heard of the Injil or Injeel (Arabic إنجيل )?
Injil occurs 12 times in Quran (III, 2, 43, 58; V, 50, 51, 70, 72, 110; VII, 156; IX, 112; XLVIII, 29; LVII, 27) and refers to revelations transmitted by Jesus (Isa).
Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels. The word Injil is used in the Quran, the Hadith and early Muslim documents to refer specifically to the revelations made by Jesus (Isa).
LOL! Christian teaches Muslim Islam!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Muslim scholars say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels: Validate your source.Plus the Quran does indentify the recipient of the INLEEL who was ISSA whom you call jesus, nowhere does it mention the names of the four gosple accounts ALLEDGED writers ;)
am1984ine 2 years ago
Muslims don't even know their own convoluted twisted cult religion. Get your lies straight. As Islam runs into 21st century info age, we see Islams contradictions, errors, lies, false flawed ideology. Muslims kick & scream child like denials. Then Muslims also claim to know Christianity? Muslims speak blasphemy & ignorance.
You say Islam has nothing to do with Judeo-Christianity? I agree! Christianity is true. However your false prophet claimed & pretended to be part of what came before. LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Stop lying and answer my question : who are the Muslim scholars who say Injil refers to the entire New Testament or four Gospels. You are not intellectually capable of discussing these issues, which explains why you had to resort to pasting passages from the web and take credit for them. Your man-god suicide is very good instance !
am1984ine 2 years ago
Typical anti-Christ Muslim can't win on facts, so they call people ignorant & attack Jesus with stupid comments. I have two masters degrees & studied religion for 25 yrs, including islam. You showed your ignorance & embarrassed yourself. Islam = false flawed ideology of lies, leading people away from God. Do the research your self. Reject Islams evil, superstitious, pagan ritual based hate, violence, intolerance & twsting of Judeo-Christianity. I have the full armor of God. I rebuke your cult.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
I have two masters degrees & studied religion for 25 yrs, including islam: Great than, would debate me via skype ? you wrote :I have the full armor of God. I rebuke your cult. then why do you dodge my questions ? surely someone who has spent 25 years studying religion won't have to resort to web posts to answer simple questions.you ,sir, are a FRAUD !
am1984ine 2 years ago
I've not dodged questions you liar. Ask a specific reasonable question, but first do basic research, no repeating ignorance like a parrot. 1st READ The BIBLE, at least read the whole Chapter (google: cc bible). Than google:
muslimhope com
answering-islam org
gotquestions org/Muslim-questions
DO YOU REALLY want to KNOW what Christians and real Scholars believe of Christianity? No; you just want to LIE and claim what you believe by CHOICE (no facts just claims) is true. U R A CULT MEMBER.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Muslims don't believe in what Paul the serial killer wrote, nor do we endorse the pornographic materiel that abounds in your man-altered bibles. WE believe in that which was sent to Moses and jesus, something which seems to be difficult to get into you dense head !
am1984ine 2 years ago
"Muslims don't believe" That's your belief, an ignorant opinion based on lies. Allah was one of 360 pagan Idols w/ 99 names; yet u can't understand God has 3 basic natures? God can do anything, including walk in his creation & guide people through divine inspiration to fulfill his promise we have the true holy word, NO NEED for an Arab "do-over" 600 yrs later. God GOT IT RIGHT the 1st time. Jesus changed everything, not Paul. You believe in one crazy false prophet who "heard voices" never God.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Allah was one of 360 pagan Idols: WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ? plus, The arabic bibles contain the word ALLAH refering to God, i can't blame you for missing that, you're just an uneducated hater !
am1984ine 2 years ago
Proof it is called History, Anthropology, Archaeology, Theology, Linguistics and scholarly research in fields of studies at real reputable Universities all over the world.
You deny that Allah was the name of one of the many (approx 360) pagan Arab idols in Mecca? You deny that the Arabs where pagans including Mohammad and his Father who died a Pagan?
You're some kind of powerful stupid. I can't fight your stupid, typical of Muslims who just fold their arms and say, NO! That's not debating.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Historians (Vaqqidi) have shown Allah was actually the chief of the 360 gods (one for each day of the year) being worshipped in Arabia at the time Muhammad rose to prominence. Ibn Al-Kalbi gave 27 names of pre-Islamic deities.
Not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. TRUTH HURTS! Repent Sinner, Jesus is Lord and Savior. You have been deceived by Satan. Jesus=Salvation, not pagan praying to mecca fool.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"arabic bibles contain the word allah"
The Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek & Aramaic. One true GOD in any language is "Yahweh".
Arabic Bible? LOL! The Bible wasn't translated into Arabic until 1200 yrs after the true revelations of God where give to true prophets of the Torah & Bible. Let's translate, Muslims are DESPERATE TO CLAIM allah is in the Bible & Torah, but their claims are easily shown to be weak false deception, showing Islam is a lie.
"uneducated hater", that's you devil!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
hahahahaah, you're ignorance is simply APPALING, give me the name of one single gospel written in ARAMAIC ! all you have is a translation, except where jesus was crying to God, God God why have you foresaken me , yeah it DOES sound like jesus was God, hahaha ; Busted ;)
am1984ine 2 years ago
"you're ignorance is simply APPALING"
The word is YOUR, not "you're".
Appalling has two L's. LOL!
Aramaic? Google: Wiki Books of the Bible.
I expect an apology you punk, this is common knowledge. Shall I call YOUR IGNORANCE APPALLING.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Go ahead and correct my typos, since you cannot answer my questions, or even validate your sources , what a joke you are , GIVE ME THE NAME OF ONE CHAPTER WRITTEN IN ARAMAIC ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
"God God why have you foresaken me:
YES Jesus had a God, The Father. The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are ONE but three different natures. The Father in heaven was GREATER in POSITION as Jesus was on Earth. I and My Father are one. I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 10:30-33 & 14:6-7)
How can one God be three? IT'S GOD! Jesus prayed to the Father to show us how, a greater glory was to come in heaven.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are ONE ?
Is jesus the Father ?
Plus, didn't jesus say my father is greater than i, how's that make him equal to the father ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
Again, why do you refuse to debate me ? are you that afraid of an educated Muslim ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
You can't understand that GOD can take three different forms and be in more than one place at a time? This is God who created the UNIVERSE AND ALL THAT IS IN IT, INCLUDING THE EARTH LIFE AND MAN.
ALLAH? 1 of 360 pagan idols with 99 names, yet you can't understand God has 3 separate unique natures in ONE?
Child, try and act like a man. Have an intelligent discussion with a child who writes "hahahahahaah" and "BUSTED ;)" is very annoying. Grow up kid.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Jesus said he was a Man, son of man, the bible says God is not neither a man or a son of man, who do you want me to believe you or the bible scribes. as for haha, and busted, well atleast they are mine and they are genuine, i, atleast, did not resort to web posts to answer a "kid", up for a live debate ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
1st you muslims claim the Holy Word of God, the Bible is corrupt and not part of Islam. Than you claim allah is tied to Bible? LOL!
Islam is SCREWED UP. On one hand totally dependant on Judeo-Christianity for legitimacy with false claims of association. On the other hand islam claims it's a last revelations of Bible, while going 100% against all given to the REAL prophets of the Bible & Torah that came way before.
Moses & Jesus did NOT pray to Mecca or do a Hajj, Pagan Arabs did! WAKE UP!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
your stupid, muslims dont tied Allah in the bible, where did you get that? can you please tell me? bible believes in trinity, and the Quran tell's us that Allah (God) is One, you like to piss people off eh? will ill ask you a question, whos your real biological father?
spread9hysteria 2 years ago
"your stupid"
LOL! You're a 20 year old punk; watch your mouth boy, who to subscribes to Tupac Amaru Shakur channels. Rap, disrespect of woman, violence, crimes...just like islam. Makes sense. Are you black? Did you know Islam is racist and mohammad enslaved blacks and called them raisin headed ignorant with hearts donkeys (Ishaq:24 & 450, Quran 9:97, Tabari IX:69 & II:11)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"whos your real biological father?"
My Father's name is John. He & my Mother raised me who I've known all my life. Dad was a decorated WWII Air Force Colonel, loved God and had great wealth & blessings in business. Thanks for asking loser. Your parents should be ashamed of you, making personal attacks of strangers on the internet. May be your parents raised you to hate? May be you don't know your father or clearly didn't teach you the meaning of being a man, or he's a fool like his son. LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Paul is a serial killer? ha ha Mohammad was in over 80 battles in 20 years and in one day ordered the beheading of 900 Jewish men and boys in front of the woman and children, where he personally beheaded as many as 100 himself. Muslims look on this with pride (evil pride).
Pornography? Have you read in the Quran and hadith Mohammad took baths and fondled a 6yr old, had sex with her at 9 and the MUSLIM PAGAN PARADISE IS FULL OF SEX with Boys and Girls and Wine. LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
It's not me who said Paul was a seriel killer, he said that he used to oppress the true followers of jesus and that he handed them to Rome to be beheaded ;) are sure you studied the religion for 20 years or days. as for porn in the bible:There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.Ezekiel 23:20 , what do you think Mr ignorant ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The bible condones polygamy , does it not ? you ignorant, wasn't Mary you're god'mom 12 when she married old joseph who was 90 years old ? could you debate me now through skype ?
am1984ine 2 years ago
"The Bible condones polygamy"
NO where in Bible does it condone polygamy. Google: gotquestions org/polygamy
There you go again with the "you ignorant" (your is the proper word)
"Mary was 12"
Prove it. Scholars have no idea but some estimate 15-17. That is different than sick pervert Mohammad, who tricked Aisha parents into letting him take her at 6. Mohammad the sick bastard, rubbed his dick all over her in the bath, than screwed her at 9. DISGUSTING and it goes on in islam today!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago