The bad part of this conversation is that you arent smart enough to comprehend that you might be wrong. Why would a God , that is a Spirit, be a nationality from the created world? The Creator is not a man or a woman or Asian or black or white. but you will only play your game to continue an idiotic attempt to prove your idiotic feeble atheist beliefs.
female as servant "you will bear your chidren in pain yet you will desire the one who impregnates you" is a white folks thing adamic which "will surely die" amen.
@jay1pizza I'm going to make this as simple as I can for you NOT to confuse you as you're already are....One question....Can U carry & or birth a child??!!! So what makes you think a man's value is more higher than a woman. Yes, men are & should definitely be protectors & etc but the WOMAN is Allah & PLEASE define the word Allah for your own sake. Science is Universal....Woman:Billion years of evolution in 9 months....Shalom!
@Mahoganni Brother,too much wasted time has been spent running to the biological defense of women.You defeated your own argument when implied "MEN should definitely be protectors" even woman herself agrees "universally" without genetic denials,questionably why is it "allah" miraculous function of birth exclude self-protecting,self-sustaining capability? What do she need you building up walls around her for PROTECTION? She is 50/50 of allah,that way no (half) is PUT ABOVE nor below!
@Mahoganni The billion year evolutionary theory in 9 mo doesn't help or elevate her cause either.Woman has a profound unique disposition in her existence she's well aware of or we wouldn't necessitate self-esteem boosting words such as ALLAH,QUEEN,DEITY,GODDESS & so on to her.Man is so
utterly technologically beyond himself in evolution and what he creates,she's just a speck of DUST.To love
the creation of her & to not leave behind to the bio-junkyards(extinction) he is challenged babysitter!
@Mahoganni No woman has ever written genetic codes she was not designed with that capacity.She
receives the genetic copying sequence from man via sperm for safekeeping.The instructions of the codes activate once inside the wound environment,& what she does on any level after that to affect the codes is pretty much PRIMITIVE unless she's an alcoholic or smoke.It is MAN who performs & invented artificial insemination when a woman is infertile & wants a child?So,don't ask allah to can he BIRTH!
Someone should summons Louis to teach the VALUE of MEN to women & kill this lopsided messaging,coz if you gotta protect & provide and that is what is expected of men, i'm thoroughly sure MAN"S VALUE IS EVEN HIGHER! .So,Quran-washed minister speak with the same or greater intensity about men in the same vernacular or don't preach at all!
sura 4:34 Men are the maintainers of women,with what Allah has made some of them to excel others and with what they spend out of their wealth, So the good women are obedient,guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded ,And (as to) those on whose part you feel desertion ,admonish them, and leave them alone in the beds and chastise them.so if they obey you ,seek not a way against them.Surely Allah is ever exalted ,Great. where does it say beat them if they disobey you?
Tell me Nation of Islam brothers , why is it that you will jump to the Quran's defense to an extent but do not accept all of the teachings of it . One example being that the Quran tells men to beat their wives if they feel that the wives will be disobedient in An-Nissaa 34 . They teach not to follow that part of the Quran . Did Allah not teach it? Why not follow?An NOI 7thJewlproductions cannot answer this he tip toes around it . SO Any takers why not answer me ?
@CAtholic29 The Arabic word idriboo is commonly translated as hit/beat/strike out, now depending on how you use the word in it's proper context can determine how it is translated properly in English, strike out seems to fit in the context of the full verse. strike out or leave the wife as a last resort if she doesn't change. now why would God allow a word there that can be translated in different ways? Islam teaches that God always tests us to see if we will follow the right path.
@bran1226 I like your take on this . You have given a mature educated argument on this issue and the first person I have come across to give this answer . Impressive and GOd Bless you
i coulda did without Rick Ross's "Everyday Im Hustlin" playin in the background... LMAO !! it honestly distracted me from receiving this message.. i had to rewind it n listen over again.. smh
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i don't know why people add music to the minsiter lectures please it is not good to have a lecture like this and have music in the back ground it like speaking when a person is tryin to speak
i understand that the NOI helped many of the depressed blacks (past / present)...BUT when they practice racism and use twisted scripture (both bible / quran) to get into the mind of the poor listeners (eventually members) , i know for sure that that technique is a flaw...
@MrPsalms27 Ok than who is? most christian preachers don't even Understand the correct interpretation of the Bible, or don't know where christianity came from, because it damn sure did not come from Jesus. You believe Jesus was born of a Virgin Mother, thats insane and it is slavery teachings i don't know your race but The religion Christianity was given to slaves to keep them away from the truth and their original religion before they were captured as such dehumanizing characters in 1555
The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are Muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan is scheduled to deliver a major public address Saturday, June 26, 2010 live at the Boisfeuillet Jones Atlanta Civic Center. “Who Are The Real Children of Israel?” and will be hosted by the Nation of Islam at the Atlanta Civic Center on Saturday June 26, 2010 at 7:00pm Eastern Time. The address is to be made freely available to the public live via webcast@ wwwnoiorg
@brianbmf . all men start out as boys. at that stage of life we have women as authorities in our lives (mothers) and this is a natural order. only when we become men do we assume power and authority. what happens when you age chronologically, yet never develop the mind of a man?.. you are still a boy subject to the guidance of his mother----- Maxine Walker and those like her have a purpose.
"The enemy wants her to use the beauty of her form to attract the natural lust in a man........ The moment you lower a woman, you automatically lower the man".
PEACE. Min. Farrakhan only substantiates the truth that most of us don't (or won't) speak up on. Let it be known, Family.
@Eccentricity360 This is beautiful to make this comment about this man, for he is a spokes man to a nation that has been asleep and is now awakening...
This is a lie, islam demands convesions on pain of death...Dont be be deceived and if your black this is exactly why we are in this state. Noah, had three sons, and black men have always wanted to take the place of God. Just like God rose pharo to destroy he will also raise up others of Mitzriam to show is power. God will destoy all Liars. Repent and beleive Jesus
@ALCALIPHA Because according to the scriptures that is not a womans place,if he doesnt know something the bible says she is to win him over with her behavior and not the word!When God wants him to learn that information he will send a man like he always has!
Oh now. I think of the female commanders, university professors, instructors and other females that I have served under and learned from. Strong, competent women who have sharpened and instructed both men and women. Perchance, you speak of your religious protocols or cultural biases towards women. I fear you may find such notions outdated in the developed world. Are you so sure of your beliefs that you never question them?
@tribunalfunk Im not talking about jobs,im talking about in the church and in the home the man is the head/leader and that is not outdated at all,that is what a man is supposed to be,he is not supposed to be lead by his woman!Thats backwards and thats how the slave master wanted it!
If you can prove god, that would disprove my belief that religious scripture from said god is fictitious at best, outdated fables at worst. What has religion offered us? War, death, suffering and utter confusion. Religion is a stumbling block, no perhaps even a mountain, that stands in the way of human progress. Surely, your god is greater than what this world has become? Do you look at the state of our world and see your gods hand in it? I would not want to follow your god if so.
@tribunalfunk You are absoulutly right about religion thats why I do not follow religion.God has already proven himself,the world is the way it is because the wicked have their time but soon it will be up.
If you apply the principles, doctrine and traditions prescribed by any "leader" or movement/organization, one could call you religious. There are other precedents, than god and religion. For example, some vegans are "religious" about their beliefs, and many sub-cultures have evolved around that. Some die-hard Trekkies and Star Wars fans have made the respective canons of each franchise into something religious, or cult-like. Interesting that you say god has proven himself. How so?
Furthermore, who is a man to "lead" me if he is not going where I will to go? Who is a man to lead me if I know the trail better than he does? Why does a woman have to be lead anywhere? Why must a man do this leading? Please help me to understand what you are saying. We don't have to agree, but I would like to try and understand where you are coming from. I understand that your religious beliefs play a role in your personal beliefs. It helps to know not everyone thinks the same.
@tribunalfunk When im talking about a man leading im talking about a man qualified,a man is supposed to lead thats his natural role and thats why the slavemaster tried to reverse roles and make the woman the leader because that is backwards.A man is supposed to wear the pants in the relationship and be the leader it has nothing to do with religion its natural order.A real man is a leader of his home and right now we lack that in our communities and need it back.Women are not our leaders!
I see. So what about the men who leave their families to go chase whores and run the streets? Should the woman follow his lead then, too? If the man is buying PS3 games and smoking ounces of weed a week with his friends while his kids need new shoes, should the woman follow his lead then as well? Humans are flawed, all of us are imperfect. No man or woman can stand up and say that they have made no mistake in their lives. How can a flawed human be counted on to always lead others?
@tribunalfunk Like I said before im not talking about that kind of man,im talking about a qualified one,I made that clear in my last statement.You do not have to be perfect to lead that is the mans natural role and again he has to be good and qualified.
@tribunalfunk It has nothing to do with being good all the time,you dont have to be,im talking about what the natural role of the man is to be and thats the leader of his nation and family.
I appreciate your zeal. It's quite enlightening for me to see the way humanity seems to desperately crave religion/god. If I personally followed my husband's beliefs, I'd never seek more knowledge and more challenges for myself. I would have never travelled places I wanted to go, where I felt a calling to. I would have never read countless books to expand my own thoughts and ideas. I would have stuck to only one book, one place mentally. Indeed, I lead my own Self, it is My will.
@tribunalfunk I didnt say nothing about following your husbands beleifs im talking about you respecting him as the man of the house and the head of the house and the one wearing the pants in the relationship being a real man and a leader which is his natural role.It has nothing to do with you believing what your husband does religiously.
@tribunalfunk Well than if you dont want to respect the man in his natural role as the leader you are just part of the problem in our community and have that feminist attitude and slavemaster mentality because thats what the slavemasters goal was is to remove the man from his natural as leader.
I regret our disagreement, but let me be clear. I do not believe one portion of a whole is superior, or fit to lead the other solely based on it's virtue of simply being it's opposite part. Hydrogen and oxygen bond to create water. Is either more important than the other?
@tribunalfunk I never said anything about being superior,it has nothing to do with that.Hydrogen and Oxygen one is not more important than the other but they have a different role just like men and women have different roles and the mans is to be the leader and protector of his family that does not make him more superior that is just his role and who he is to be as a man,both are equally important with different roles!!
Meanwhile, my dear "leader" has snoozed the morning away, and I have washed 3 loads of clothes, cleaned the house, done my homework, prepared a meal, co-ordinated a contractor to come make a few minor repairs, got the kids out the door for school and showered/dressed myself for work. When I need tips on snoring or sleeping positions, I will be sure to consult my "leader", for sure. Fair enough?
hope this 'leader' is out your door. He is not a leader. A leader gets up wondering what they need to do for those he leads that day. What will make your life better.
1. SITUATED HIGHER UP : upper 2: of higher rank, quality, or importance..........4 a : greater in quantity or numbers i.e. escaped by superior speed b : excellent of its kind : better i.e. her superior memory So, as you can see even though there is various definitions in the term--one of them is definitely dealing with rank as one would find in the definition of leader. Also, one can infer that it communicates a MORE THAN meaning.
This MORE THAN meaning can be easily applied to a leader b/c a leader is in a higher position with greater responsibilities than those who follow or work under him/her.
Now, let's look at the definition of Equal: There are various meanings to the term but concentrate on the first:
(1) : of the SAME measure, quantity, amount, or NUMBER AS ANOTHER (2) : identical in mathematical value or logical denotation :EQUIVALENT b : like in quality, nature, or STATUS c : like for each member of a group, class, or society i.e. provide equal employment opportunities
Impartial, Free from extremes, and finally--capable of meeting the requirements of a situation or a task .
Nowhere in the definition does it imply a ranking order or a higher status, which can be found in the definitions of leader and superior. Also, it indicates the ability for a person to meet the requirements of a situation or a task.
Therefore, you contradict yourself when you say men and women are equal, yet the man is a leader. Because the definitions of both terms are contradictory. tribunalfunk is not wrong to use superior as synonymous with leader b/c both definitions share the same meaning in regards to ranking order and having a more than understanding.
@everagej No its not contradicting because said men and women are NOT equal but we are equally imortant in what we do,so you didnt even read what i said,i never sad men and women are equal because we are not but our different roles are equally important.
Therefore, when you have a leader, there is automatically a shift in balance or equality creating an unequal relationship. Automatically there is the person in charge ( the leader or superior), and the subordinate who answers to the leader. You are colluding the two definitions for it to make it seem less than what it is--sexist and too many men in the religious community do this to prevent women from questioning the logic of male sexism that is rampant in religious institutions.
@everagej No it does not shift the balance,because balance is not to people in the same role and if you have a leader that does not mean the person is subordinate like a mindless robot but they do follow that leadershp and that is not an imbalance and it has nothing to do with sexist,it is not in a man to follow the leadership of a woman that has nothing to do with religion.A realationship does not follow your exact defnitions,its a partnership and the man is the leader.
Furthermore, I do believe men and women are equal and that we are not the same and indeed perform different roles. However, neither the male gender or female gender are inherently more capable of leadership . History has proven, that nature (GOD) endows both men and women with the ability to successfully lead.
@everagej Yes one is more capable of leadership and thats why n every sngle african civilization ther are way more male rulers than female rulers by overwhelming majority because that is a mans natural position/role,its rare to see a woman in that postion it was only rare circumstances wher that happened it was not the normal in any african culture or any culture period.
(2) : a party member chosen to manage party activities in a legislative body (3) : such a party member presiding over the whole legislative body when the party constitutes a majority d (1) : conductor c (2) : a first or principal performer of a group
So, one could infer from the following that a leader holds a position of high rank that presides over and performs important administrative and military tasks and/or duties.
The NOI is an offshoot of ISLAM. ISLAM is not what the indigenous Africans practiced prior to the spread of ISLAM and occupation of Arab foreigners. It is a foreign religion that was brought to Africans by foreigners. By the time the Atlantic slave trade was in full swing--Africans practiced primarily three spiritual or religious traditions--Christianity (foreign), Islam (foreign), and traditional African spirituality. All differed on their views on women.
@everagej No they did not differ because the good people in those relgions all respected and loved their women but in all 3 the women were not the leaders because thats not ther role in all 3 of those systems it was the men who were overwhelming majority leaders and that has nothing to do with religion that s a mans nature to be the protector and LEADER of his nation and home.
@everagej Islam was in existence long before there was any people called Arab. It's the nature of God, and the nature He created man. Islam means submission to the will of God. So when did submission to the will of God begin? Think about that before you make such ignorant statements.
Look clown, Islam was never an African religion prior to Arabs spreading it. Islam is a changed, incomplete, and corrupted cut of the African Spiritual Tradition System. It is not the original , and it was used to destroy traditional African socieites. I study African Spiritual Traditional systems. You are the ignorant one.
@everagej Whatever. You're the one wearing the Bozo suit, and you call me a clown. I studied all of that, and then some. Islam is not an Arab religion. Only the ignorant or the liar would say otherwise. Which one are you?
I am neither, the only liar is you. If you studied all that and then some, you would have never written such foolishness. So, Whatever to you. Stop defending cuts and get back to the Afrikan.
@everagej I study root knowledge. Branch knowledge is fine as long as it takes you to the root. Nothing I said here is a lie. I know what I know. The only foolishness I see is your comments. Islam was here before the continent was ever called Africa. Islam means submission to the will of God. We always submitted to God's will. Islam came with God Himself.
@everagej Hold on brother, can you explain yourself without the cutting remarks towards Minister Farrakhan. I am interested in hearing your opinion but not your bitterness. You might just have a point of interest.
I wasn't attacking Minister Farrakhan. Not one comment I made was against the minister. Also, I am not bitter, I just come off strong when I hear foolishness, esp. when people straight up lie and say that Islam was present in Africa prior to the occupation of Arabs. Africans were considered infidels and non-believers b/c we did not subscribe to Islam--if we were already practicing it there would have been no need to convert us to something we already practiced.
@everagej I believe you might be a little confused... Since the core belief and foundation of Islam is the concept and belief in one God...this concept/belief indeed originated in Africa. It's much deeper than the cultural association of the Arabs. If you are capable of leaving association at the door, then you will see that the concept of one God began in Africa and not Arabia. Hon Minister Farrakhan lecture on this subject many time. check Youtube link by Farrakhan on racism in Islam.
I love hearing Minister Farrakhan, I am just not a member of the NOI. I was getting on some other brothers who were saying some foolish stuff on the webpage. Did you read the commentary. Also, Chancellor Williams the writer of the Destruction of Black Civilization clearly makes it known that we did not practice Islam. Dr. John G. Jackson made the same claim. Also, I am studying an African spiritual system and it has nothing to do with worshipping Allah.
Finally, there was no set system of male and female roles in Africa. It varied from ethnic group and nation. Certain ethnic groups were patriarchal, others leaned more towards matriarchy, and others still were more egalitarian. This sense of men always having the leadership role and it being a natural position came more so from our exposure to Christianity and Islam and people who were foreign to us and our ways.
@everagej Yes ther was set roles for men and women and men were the leaders thats why in every single african civlization ther are way more men rulers than women and women rulers are rare because thats not their role,that has nothing to do with christianity or islam thats is natural and the slavemaster reversed those roles.No civilization in africa was matriarchal,women were not the leaders of the nation and home.The man is the natural leader that is our nature and ths is our ways.
Sir do you understand what a leader and superior actually means? The manager or CEO may be called a leader of a team or a corporation, respectively. Also, a superior could be used as a noun to refer to the manager or CEO.
So, let us review the definition of superior, leader, and equal.
The definition leader part one:
SOMETHING THAT RANKS FIRST, a person who leads: as a : guide, conductor b (1) : a person who directs a military force or unit (2) : a person who has commanding authority or influence c (1): the principal officer of a British political party (2) : a party member chosen to manage party activities in a legislative body
@ALCALIPHA: Woman do teach in a way as mother. Depending the way she acts, if she is a woman of value or not, this will be reflected in her sons or daughter. Thus, her sons will see in all women her mother and will respect and treat good all women.
@ALCALIPHA Now, in my view, and i don't pretend to say the true, the sciptures forbid women to teach men because men are by nature very proud and close, they do not accept that somebody different teach them, they tend to consider themselves as superior, i guess it is the reason why the Almighty send men as messengers or prophet because if it was women, they will not follow. I think scriptures tell to women to stay quiet in the presence of men in order to not hurt their pride.
@kiessey No thats not the reason,GOD simply chose men as his leaders because thats what he made men to be that is the man's role,thats why he sent men as messengers and prophets.Men were not made to follow the lead of women.
@brianbmf I will not try to argue with you, you are the perfect illustration of what i called men pride or may i say the complex of superiority of men.True the ALMIGHTY send men as messenger but there is prophetess:
Exodus chap 15 v20-21 Miriam, Deborah Judges chap 4, Huldah 2Kings 22 v 14, in the book of Isaiah, he also talks about a prophetess, Anna Luke chap 2 v 36, Acts chapter 2 v 17-19,chapter 21 v 9. Did jesus appear to women when he ressurected and told to women to said it to men?
@kiessey Its not no complex of superiority or none of that,you gave a false reason of why God sent men to do the work.Not one of those prophetess were leaders or teachers over men and not one of them were sent to bring a message to the masses,but the MEN of God were because that is the man's role.Yes jesus did appear to women and told them to tell the men to meeet him in galillee wher he told them to teach all nations and the women were not ther because that is not their job!
@ALCALIPHA Woman are powerful , people said that behind every great man there is a woman...Think about this, the Almighty gave us a mission the one to be kind, patient, good with our men it is for a good reason.
In some african country at time of family meeting men and women are not in the same room, but the head of family never took a decision without counsulting women. When women decided, he went back to men and announced his decision which is quiet often that of women ^_^
@kiessey Women were never the head of the family and did not make the decisions,the men did,yes they consulted their women but the women did not make the decisions at all!
@brianbmf I did not want to say it, but i am from a country from africa and know some people who come from others african countries so i pretty know what i am talking about....Read again what I wrote, all those things to say that women ans men are the same status in the family.... Do you know why in Egyptians represented men and women in the same size, because men and women were equal.
And if you are honest you can see that women are more involved in children education than father are.
@kiessey No you dont what your talking about because in ancient africa until now 95% of the time the man was always the head of the family.Men and women had the same respect in the family and she is of equal importance but the man is still the leader of the family and the nation including egypt and everywher else and has the final decision.
@brianbmf . all men start out as boys. at that stage of life we have women as authorities in our lives (mothers) and this is a natural order. only when we become men do we assume power and authority. what happens when you age chronologically, yet never develop the mind of a man?.. you are still a boy subject to the guidance of his mother----- Maxine Walker and those like her have a purpose.
@stephenzende Thats what im talking about men assume power and authority as men period and as a boy yea we are subject to our mother and our mother is subject to our father!
Essalam Alaikum, This is a disbeliever organization (Mushrik). They believe that Allah the Creator of the Heavens and Earth is a black man called Fard. This is not the islam that all prophets (peace upon them) taught. The Last Messenger ist Muhammad Ibn Abdu Allah (peace be upon Him) who lived in Arabia 1400 Years ago and Elija Muhammad is a liar.
A beautiful quote from Bible and Quran.
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@brianh406
Good argument genius you are so smart I can only say, "A fool in his heart says there is no God."
RevDogo 1 month ago
@brianh406
A fool in his heart says there is no God.
RevDogo 1 month ago
@brianh406
The bad part of this conversation is that you arent smart enough to comprehend that you might be wrong. Why would a God , that is a Spirit, be a nationality from the created world? The Creator is not a man or a woman or Asian or black or white. but you will only play your game to continue an idiotic attempt to prove your idiotic feeble atheist beliefs.
RevDogo 1 month ago
@brianh406
ask them
RevDogo 1 month ago
@thesipp
Amen
RevDogo 1 month ago
@brianh406
He is a man of color, of Arab/Hebrew blood.
RevDogo 1 month ago
@brianh406
He aint white
RevDogo 1 month ago
female as servant "you will bear your chidren in pain yet you will desire the one who impregnates you" is a white folks thing adamic which "will surely die" amen.
lifeinyouisgod 3 months ago
@lifeinyouisgod terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lifeinyouisgod 3 months ago
@lifeinyouisgod great teaching Mr. Farrakhan
tnsassy2 3 months ago
Hello, can you please post a link to this without the music? Thanks!
ktrn2011 4 months ago
All praises due to Allah
alex2sick 4 months ago
@jay1pizza I'm going to make this as simple as I can for you NOT to confuse you as you're already are....One question....Can U carry & or birth a child??!!! So what makes you think a man's value is more higher than a woman. Yes, men are & should definitely be protectors & etc but the WOMAN is Allah & PLEASE define the word Allah for your own sake. Science is Universal....Woman:Billion years of evolution in 9 months....Shalom!
Mahoganni 4 months ago
@Mahoganni Brother,too much wasted time has been spent running to the biological defense of women.You defeated your own argument when implied "MEN should definitely be protectors" even woman herself agrees "universally" without genetic denials,questionably why is it "allah" miraculous function of birth exclude self-protecting,self-sustaining capability? What do she need you building up walls around her for PROTECTION? She is 50/50 of allah,that way no (half) is PUT ABOVE nor below!
jay1pizza 4 months ago
@Mahoganni The billion year evolutionary theory in 9 mo doesn't help or elevate her cause either.Woman has a profound unique disposition in her existence she's well aware of or we wouldn't necessitate self-esteem boosting words such as ALLAH,QUEEN,DEITY,GODDESS & so on to her.Man is so
utterly technologically beyond himself in evolution and what he creates,she's just a speck of DUST.To love
the creation of her & to not leave behind to the bio-junkyards(extinction) he is challenged babysitter!
jay1pizza 4 months ago
@Mahoganni No woman has ever written genetic codes she was not designed with that capacity.She
receives the genetic copying sequence from man via sperm for safekeeping.The instructions of the codes activate once inside the wound environment,& what she does on any level after that to affect the codes is pretty much PRIMITIVE unless she's an alcoholic or smoke.It is MAN who performs & invented artificial insemination when a woman is infertile & wants a child?So,don't ask allah to can he BIRTH!
jay1pizza 4 months ago
Someone should summons Louis to teach the VALUE of MEN to women & kill this lopsided messaging,coz if you gotta protect & provide and that is what is expected of men, i'm thoroughly sure MAN"S VALUE IS EVEN HIGHER! .So,Quran-washed minister speak with the same or greater intensity about men in the same vernacular or don't preach at all!
jay1pizza 5 months ago
sura 4:34 Men are the maintainers of women,with what Allah has made some of them to excel others and with what they spend out of their wealth, So the good women are obedient,guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded ,And (as to) those on whose part you feel desertion ,admonish them, and leave them alone in the beds and chastise them.so if they obey you ,seek not a way against them.Surely Allah is ever exalted ,Great. where does it say beat them if they disobey you?
jolteonsparks 5 months ago
Tell me Nation of Islam brothers , why is it that you will jump to the Quran's defense to an extent but do not accept all of the teachings of it . One example being that the Quran tells men to beat their wives if they feel that the wives will be disobedient in An-Nissaa 34 . They teach not to follow that part of the Quran . Did Allah not teach it? Why not follow?An NOI 7thJewlproductions cannot answer this he tip toes around it . SO Any takers why not answer me ?
CAtholic29 5 months ago
@CAtholic29 The Arabic word idriboo is commonly translated as hit/beat/strike out, now depending on how you use the word in it's proper context can determine how it is translated properly in English, strike out seems to fit in the context of the full verse. strike out or leave the wife as a last resort if she doesn't change. now why would God allow a word there that can be translated in different ways? Islam teaches that God always tests us to see if we will follow the right path.
bran1226 5 months ago
@bran1226 I like your take on this . You have given a mature educated argument on this issue and the first person I have come across to give this answer . Impressive and GOd Bless you
CAtholic29 5 months ago
@CAtholic29 thank you very much! and may God bless you also.
bran1226 5 months ago
Yes!! Tell the truth Farrakhan!!
everagej 6 months ago
i coulda did without Rick Ross's "Everyday Im Hustlin" playin in the background... LMAO !! it honestly distracted me from receiving this message.. i had to rewind it n listen over again.. smh
shayarzachary 6 months ago
Amen!@tigersforchrist
yzarc0x 6 months ago
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tigersforchrist 7 months ago
if u look directly into his eyes u can see darkness of heart.
tricey2300 8 months ago
Shame on me! I though he was Muslim lollll
PHEOLA1 9 months ago
i don't know why people add music to the minsiter lectures please it is not good to have a lecture like this and have music in the back ground it like speaking when a person is tryin to speak
brendam44 9 months ago
@brendam44 I like the music. Keeps me focused.
trayder29 9 months ago
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i understand that the NOI helped many of the depressed blacks (past / present)...BUT when they practice racism and use twisted scripture (both bible / quran) to get into the mind of the poor listeners (eventually members) , i know for sure that that technique is a flaw...
afterray 10 months ago
Spiritual Food..............
LydaMuhammad 10 months ago
Farrakhan is the best Christian preacher i know
code187G 11 months ago 2
@code187G
he is the preacher of everything :D
monptii 9 months ago
@code187G Come on bro...You just over did it
MrPsalms27 7 months ago
@MrPsalms27 Ok than who is? most christian preachers don't even Understand the correct interpretation of the Bible, or don't know where christianity came from, because it damn sure did not come from Jesus. You believe Jesus was born of a Virgin Mother, thats insane and it is slavery teachings i don't know your race but The religion Christianity was given to slaves to keep them away from the truth and their original religion before they were captured as such dehumanizing characters in 1555
code187G 7 months ago
I understand what farakhan is trying to say but alot of females today dont value themseleves so how can anybody elese value or respect them?
mrgentlemen4u 1 year ago
I really tried to watch but found it hard with Bun B playing in the background.
lovesproduct 1 year ago
@lovesproduct Thats the same thing they do to play with your mind. I apprieciate the music because it will make u listen.
muggledon1 1 year ago
I agree the music is not only distracting it brings down the serious matter of the video content.
hopethadon 1 year ago
wow
dienaarvanYahuah 1 year ago
the music is in bad taste, i love the songs but its really diatracting... maybe if it didnt have dialogue, sister..
jayliovesnomore 1 year ago
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The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are Muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
DRXCIX 1 year ago
the music is annoying please remove it please
Darrielm 1 year ago
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The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
DRXCIX 1 year ago
I agree but, most females dont value themseleves so of course noone elese will.
JGREEN3575 1 year ago
The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan is scheduled to deliver a major public address Saturday, June 26, 2010 live at the Boisfeuillet Jones Atlanta Civic Center. “Who Are The Real Children of Israel?” and will be hosted by the Nation of Islam at the Atlanta Civic Center on Saturday June 26, 2010 at 7:00pm Eastern Time. The address is to be made freely available to the public live via webcast@ wwwnoiorg
vBJazzPFC 1 year ago
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@brianbmf . all men start out as boys. at that stage of life we have women as authorities in our lives (mothers) and this is a natural order. only when we become men do we assume power and authority. what happens when you age chronologically, yet never develop the mind of a man?.. you are still a boy subject to the guidance of his mother----- Maxine Walker and those like her have a purpose.
stephenzende 1 year ago
"For He created you from a single essence, and from that same essence created his mate." Word.
MrFunky789 1 year ago
"The enemy wants her to use the beauty of her form to attract the natural lust in a man........ The moment you lower a woman, you automatically lower the man".
PEACE. Min. Farrakhan only substantiates the truth that most of us don't (or won't) speak up on. Let it be known, Family.
Eccentricity360 2 years ago
@Eccentricity360 This is beautiful to make this comment about this man, for he is a spokes man to a nation that has been asleep and is now awakening...
sotrueme 1 year ago
This is a lie, islam demands convesions on pain of death...Dont be be deceived and if your black this is exactly why we are in this state. Noah, had three sons, and black men have always wanted to take the place of God. Just like God rose pharo to destroy he will also raise up others of Mitzriam to show is power. God will destoy all Liars. Repent and beleive Jesus
shirah121 2 years ago
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"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue." -Proverbs 17:28
beatleme2 2 years ago
If maxinne walker is preaching,teaching and instructing men than she is in error and usurping the mans authority and outside of Gods will and order.
brianbmf 2 years ago
@brianbmf
WHY CANT A WOMAN TEACH AND INSTRUCT A MAN ??? WHAT IF SHE KNOWS SOMETHING A MAN DOESNT ??? HOW ELSE WILL HE LEARN THAT INFORMATION ????
ALCALIPHA 1 year ago
@ALCALIPHA Because according to the scriptures that is not a womans place,if he doesnt know something the bible says she is to win him over with her behavior and not the word!When God wants him to learn that information he will send a man like he always has!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
Oh now. I think of the female commanders, university professors, instructors and other females that I have served under and learned from. Strong, competent women who have sharpened and instructed both men and women. Perchance, you speak of your religious protocols or cultural biases towards women. I fear you may find such notions outdated in the developed world. Are you so sure of your beliefs that you never question them?
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk Im not talking about jobs,im talking about in the church and in the home the man is the head/leader and that is not outdated at all,that is what a man is supposed to be,he is not supposed to be lead by his woman!Thats backwards and thats how the slave master wanted it!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
If you can prove god, that would disprove my belief that religious scripture from said god is fictitious at best, outdated fables at worst. What has religion offered us? War, death, suffering and utter confusion. Religion is a stumbling block, no perhaps even a mountain, that stands in the way of human progress. Surely, your god is greater than what this world has become? Do you look at the state of our world and see your gods hand in it? I would not want to follow your god if so.
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk You are absoulutly right about religion thats why I do not follow religion.God has already proven himself,the world is the way it is because the wicked have their time but soon it will be up.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
If you apply the principles, doctrine and traditions prescribed by any "leader" or movement/organization, one could call you religious. There are other precedents, than god and religion. For example, some vegans are "religious" about their beliefs, and many sub-cultures have evolved around that. Some die-hard Trekkies and Star Wars fans have made the respective canons of each franchise into something religious, or cult-like. Interesting that you say god has proven himself. How so?
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@brianbmf
Furthermore, who is a man to "lead" me if he is not going where I will to go? Who is a man to lead me if I know the trail better than he does? Why does a woman have to be lead anywhere? Why must a man do this leading? Please help me to understand what you are saying. We don't have to agree, but I would like to try and understand where you are coming from. I understand that your religious beliefs play a role in your personal beliefs. It helps to know not everyone thinks the same.
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk When im talking about a man leading im talking about a man qualified,a man is supposed to lead thats his natural role and thats why the slavemaster tried to reverse roles and make the woman the leader because that is backwards.A man is supposed to wear the pants in the relationship and be the leader it has nothing to do with religion its natural order.A real man is a leader of his home and right now we lack that in our communities and need it back.Women are not our leaders!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
I see. So what about the men who leave their families to go chase whores and run the streets? Should the woman follow his lead then, too? If the man is buying PS3 games and smoking ounces of weed a week with his friends while his kids need new shoes, should the woman follow his lead then as well? Humans are flawed, all of us are imperfect. No man or woman can stand up and say that they have made no mistake in their lives. How can a flawed human be counted on to always lead others?
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk Like I said before im not talking about that kind of man,im talking about a qualified one,I made that clear in my last statement.You do not have to be perfect to lead that is the mans natural role and again he has to be good and qualified.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
No human is always good. That is my point. No man or woman is 100% good all the time.
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk It has nothing to do with being good all the time,you dont have to be,im talking about what the natural role of the man is to be and thats the leader of his nation and family.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
I appreciate your zeal. It's quite enlightening for me to see the way humanity seems to desperately crave religion/god. If I personally followed my husband's beliefs, I'd never seek more knowledge and more challenges for myself. I would have never travelled places I wanted to go, where I felt a calling to. I would have never read countless books to expand my own thoughts and ideas. I would have stuck to only one book, one place mentally. Indeed, I lead my own Self, it is My will.
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk I didnt say nothing about following your husbands beleifs im talking about you respecting him as the man of the house and the head of the house and the one wearing the pants in the relationship being a real man and a leader which is his natural role.It has nothing to do with you believing what your husband does religiously.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
I don't think so. To each his own. Peace to you.
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk Well than if you dont want to respect the man in his natural role as the leader you are just part of the problem in our community and have that feminist attitude and slavemaster mentality because thats what the slavemasters goal was is to remove the man from his natural as leader.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
I regret our disagreement, but let me be clear. I do not believe one portion of a whole is superior, or fit to lead the other solely based on it's virtue of simply being it's opposite part. Hydrogen and oxygen bond to create water. Is either more important than the other?
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk I never said anything about being superior,it has nothing to do with that.Hydrogen and Oxygen one is not more important than the other but they have a different role just like men and women have different roles and the mans is to be the leader and protector of his family that does not make him more superior that is just his role and who he is to be as a man,both are equally important with different roles!!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf
Meanwhile, my dear "leader" has snoozed the morning away, and I have washed 3 loads of clothes, cleaned the house, done my homework, prepared a meal, co-ordinated a contractor to come make a few minor repairs, got the kids out the door for school and showered/dressed myself for work. When I need tips on snoring or sleeping positions, I will be sure to consult my "leader", for sure. Fair enough?
tribunalfunk 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk Well if thats the kind of man you married I feel bad for you because thats not what a real man does.
brianbmf 1 year ago
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themamaw54 1 year ago
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hope this 'leader' is out your door. He is not a leader. A leader gets up wondering what they need to do for those he leads that day. What will make your life better.
themamaw54 1 year ago
@tribunalfunk Talk to your man let him know where you stand sister. Dont tell us tell him. Thats where it starts. Talk to him let it be known sis.
muggledon1 1 year ago
@brianbmf
Now, moving on to the definition of Superior:
1. SITUATED HIGHER UP : upper 2: of higher rank, quality, or importance..........4 a : greater in quantity or numbers i.e. escaped by superior speed b : excellent of its kind : better i.e. her superior memory So, as you can see even though there is various definitions in the term--one of them is definitely dealing with rank as one would find in the definition of leader. Also, one can infer that it communicates a MORE THAN meaning.
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
This MORE THAN meaning can be easily applied to a leader b/c a leader is in a higher position with greater responsibilities than those who follow or work under him/her.
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Now, let's look at the definition of Equal: There are various meanings to the term but concentrate on the first:
(1) : of the SAME measure, quantity, amount, or NUMBER AS ANOTHER (2) : identical in mathematical value or logical denotation :EQUIVALENT b : like in quality, nature, or STATUS c : like for each member of a group, class, or society i.e. provide equal employment opportunities
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
The other part to the definition of equal:
Impartial, Free from extremes, and finally--capable of meeting the requirements of a situation or a task .
Nowhere in the definition does it imply a ranking order or a higher status, which can be found in the definitions of leader and superior. Also, it indicates the ability for a person to meet the requirements of a situation or a task.
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Therefore, you contradict yourself when you say men and women are equal, yet the man is a leader. Because the definitions of both terms are contradictory. tribunalfunk is not wrong to use superior as synonymous with leader b/c both definitions share the same meaning in regards to ranking order and having a more than understanding.
everagej 6 months ago
@everagej No its not contradicting because said men and women are NOT equal but we are equally imortant in what we do,so you didnt even read what i said,i never sad men and women are equal because we are not but our different roles are equally important.
brianbmf 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Therefore, when you have a leader, there is automatically a shift in balance or equality creating an unequal relationship. Automatically there is the person in charge ( the leader or superior), and the subordinate who answers to the leader. You are colluding the two definitions for it to make it seem less than what it is--sexist and too many men in the religious community do this to prevent women from questioning the logic of male sexism that is rampant in religious institutions.
everagej 6 months ago
@everagej No it does not shift the balance,because balance is not to people in the same role and if you have a leader that does not mean the person is subordinate like a mindless robot but they do follow that leadershp and that is not an imbalance and it has nothing to do with sexist,it is not in a man to follow the leadership of a woman that has nothing to do with religion.A realationship does not follow your exact defnitions,its a partnership and the man is the leader.
brianbmf 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Furthermore, I do believe men and women are equal and that we are not the same and indeed perform different roles. However, neither the male gender or female gender are inherently more capable of leadership . History has proven, that nature (GOD) endows both men and women with the ability to successfully lead.
everagej 6 months ago
@everagej Yes one is more capable of leadership and thats why n every sngle african civilization ther are way more male rulers than female rulers by overwhelming majority because that is a mans natural position/role,its rare to see a woman in that postion it was only rare circumstances wher that happened it was not the normal in any african culture or any culture period.
brianbmf 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Definition of leader part 2:
(2) : a party member chosen to manage party activities in a legislative body (3) : such a party member presiding over the whole legislative body when the party constitutes a majority d (1) : conductor c (2) : a first or principal performer of a group
So, one could infer from the following that a leader holds a position of high rank that presides over and performs important administrative and military tasks and/or duties.
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
The NOI is an offshoot of ISLAM. ISLAM is not what the indigenous Africans practiced prior to the spread of ISLAM and occupation of Arab foreigners. It is a foreign religion that was brought to Africans by foreigners. By the time the Atlantic slave trade was in full swing--Africans practiced primarily three spiritual or religious traditions--Christianity (foreign), Islam (foreign), and traditional African spirituality. All differed on their views on women.
everagej 6 months ago
@everagej No they did not differ because the good people in those relgions all respected and loved their women but in all 3 the women were not the leaders because thats not ther role in all 3 of those systems it was the men who were overwhelming majority leaders and that has nothing to do with religion that s a mans nature to be the protector and LEADER of his nation and home.
brianbmf 6 months ago
@everagej Islam was in existence long before there was any people called Arab. It's the nature of God, and the nature He created man. Islam means submission to the will of God. So when did submission to the will of God begin? Think about that before you make such ignorant statements.
Originalman320 4 months ago
@Originalman320
Look clown, Islam was never an African religion prior to Arabs spreading it. Islam is a changed, incomplete, and corrupted cut of the African Spiritual Tradition System. It is not the original , and it was used to destroy traditional African socieites. I study African Spiritual Traditional systems. You are the ignorant one.
everagej 4 months ago
@everagej Whatever. You're the one wearing the Bozo suit, and you call me a clown. I studied all of that, and then some. Islam is not an Arab religion. Only the ignorant or the liar would say otherwise. Which one are you?
Originalman320 4 months ago
@Originalman320
I am neither, the only liar is you. If you studied all that and then some, you would have never written such foolishness. So, Whatever to you. Stop defending cuts and get back to the Afrikan.
everagej 4 months ago
@everagej I study root knowledge. Branch knowledge is fine as long as it takes you to the root. Nothing I said here is a lie. I know what I know. The only foolishness I see is your comments. Islam was here before the continent was ever called Africa. Islam means submission to the will of God. We always submitted to God's will. Islam came with God Himself.
Originalman320 4 months ago
@everagej Hold on brother, can you explain yourself without the cutting remarks towards Minister Farrakhan. I am interested in hearing your opinion but not your bitterness. You might just have a point of interest.
Jstar141957 3 months ago
@Jstar141957
I wasn't attacking Minister Farrakhan. Not one comment I made was against the minister. Also, I am not bitter, I just come off strong when I hear foolishness, esp. when people straight up lie and say that Islam was present in Africa prior to the occupation of Arabs. Africans were considered infidels and non-believers b/c we did not subscribe to Islam--if we were already practicing it there would have been no need to convert us to something we already practiced.
everagej 3 months ago
@everagej I believe you might be a little confused... Since the core belief and foundation of Islam is the concept and belief in one God...this concept/belief indeed originated in Africa. It's much deeper than the cultural association of the Arabs. If you are capable of leaving association at the door, then you will see that the concept of one God began in Africa and not Arabia. Hon Minister Farrakhan lecture on this subject many time. check Youtube link by Farrakhan on racism in Islam.
ederrick987 3 months ago
@ederrick987
Let's agree to disagree. Because nothing you or I will say to each other is going to change our mindset.
everagej 3 months ago
@Jstar141957
I love hearing Minister Farrakhan, I am just not a member of the NOI. I was getting on some other brothers who were saying some foolish stuff on the webpage. Did you read the commentary. Also, Chancellor Williams the writer of the Destruction of Black Civilization clearly makes it known that we did not practice Islam. Dr. John G. Jackson made the same claim. Also, I am studying an African spiritual system and it has nothing to do with worshipping Allah.
everagej 3 months ago
@brianbmf
Finally, there was no set system of male and female roles in Africa. It varied from ethnic group and nation. Certain ethnic groups were patriarchal, others leaned more towards matriarchy, and others still were more egalitarian. This sense of men always having the leadership role and it being a natural position came more so from our exposure to Christianity and Islam and people who were foreign to us and our ways.
everagej 6 months ago
@everagej Yes ther was set roles for men and women and men were the leaders thats why in every single african civlization ther are way more men rulers than women and women rulers are rare because thats not their role,that has nothing to do with christianity or islam thats is natural and the slavemaster reversed those roles.No civilization in africa was matriarchal,women were not the leaders of the nation and home.The man is the natural leader that is our nature and ths is our ways.
brianbmf 6 months ago
@brianbmf
Sir do you understand what a leader and superior actually means? The manager or CEO may be called a leader of a team or a corporation, respectively. Also, a superior could be used as a noun to refer to the manager or CEO.
everagej 6 months ago
@brianbmf
So, let us review the definition of superior, leader, and equal.
The definition leader part one:
SOMETHING THAT RANKS FIRST, a person who leads: as a : guide, conductor b (1) : a person who directs a military force or unit (2) : a person who has commanding authority or influence c (1): the principal officer of a British political party (2) : a party member chosen to manage party activities in a legislative body
everagej 6 months ago
@ALCALIPHA: Woman do teach in a way as mother. Depending the way she acts, if she is a woman of value or not, this will be reflected in her sons or daughter. Thus, her sons will see in all women her mother and will respect and treat good all women.
kiessey 1 year ago
@ALCALIPHA Now, in my view, and i don't pretend to say the true, the sciptures forbid women to teach men because men are by nature very proud and close, they do not accept that somebody different teach them, they tend to consider themselves as superior, i guess it is the reason why the Almighty send men as messengers or prophet because if it was women, they will not follow. I think scriptures tell to women to stay quiet in the presence of men in order to not hurt their pride.
kiessey 1 year ago
@kiessey No thats not the reason,GOD simply chose men as his leaders because thats what he made men to be that is the man's role,thats why he sent men as messengers and prophets.Men were not made to follow the lead of women.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf I will not try to argue with you, you are the perfect illustration of what i called men pride or may i say the complex of superiority of men.True the ALMIGHTY send men as messenger but there is prophetess:
Exodus chap 15 v20-21 Miriam, Deborah Judges chap 4, Huldah 2Kings 22 v 14, in the book of Isaiah, he also talks about a prophetess, Anna Luke chap 2 v 36, Acts chapter 2 v 17-19,chapter 21 v 9. Did jesus appear to women when he ressurected and told to women to said it to men?
kiessey 1 year ago
@kiessey Its not no complex of superiority or none of that,you gave a false reason of why God sent men to do the work.Not one of those prophetess were leaders or teachers over men and not one of them were sent to bring a message to the masses,but the MEN of God were because that is the man's role.Yes jesus did appear to women and told them to tell the men to meeet him in galillee wher he told them to teach all nations and the women were not ther because that is not their job!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@ALCALIPHA Woman are powerful , people said that behind every great man there is a woman...Think about this, the Almighty gave us a mission the one to be kind, patient, good with our men it is for a good reason.
In some african country at time of family meeting men and women are not in the same room, but the head of family never took a decision without counsulting women. When women decided, he went back to men and announced his decision which is quiet often that of women ^_^
kiessey 1 year ago
@kiessey Women were never the head of the family and did not make the decisions,the men did,yes they consulted their women but the women did not make the decisions at all!
brianbmf 1 year ago
@brianbmf I did not want to say it, but i am from a country from africa and know some people who come from others african countries so i pretty know what i am talking about....Read again what I wrote, all those things to say that women ans men are the same status in the family.... Do you know why in Egyptians represented men and women in the same size, because men and women were equal.
And if you are honest you can see that women are more involved in children education than father are.
kiessey 1 year ago
@kiessey No you dont what your talking about because in ancient africa until now 95% of the time the man was always the head of the family.Men and women had the same respect in the family and she is of equal importance but the man is still the leader of the family and the nation including egypt and everywher else and has the final decision.
brianbmf 1 year ago
@ALCALIPHA The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that Allah gives the child to the woman because she is the best teacher!
gjohnsoningary 1 year ago
@gjohnsoningary
i know ...
ALCALIPHA 1 year ago
@brianbmf . all men start out as boys. at that stage of life we have women as authorities in our lives (mothers) and this is a natural order. only when we become men do we assume power and authority. what happens when you age chronologically, yet never develop the mind of a man?.. you are still a boy subject to the guidance of his mother----- Maxine Walker and those like her have a purpose.
stephenzende 1 year ago
@stephenzende Thats what im talking about men assume power and authority as men period and as a boy yea we are subject to our mother and our mother is subject to our father!
brianbmf 1 year ago
Live long teach on Minister Farrakhan
DAlani123 2 years ago 2
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Essalam Alaikum, This is a disbeliever organization (Mushrik). They believe that Allah the Creator of the Heavens and Earth is a black man called Fard. This is not the islam that all prophets (peace upon them) taught. The Last Messenger ist Muhammad Ibn Abdu Allah (peace be upon Him) who lived in Arabia 1400 Years ago and Elija Muhammad is a liar.
Botschaftnour 2 years ago
whadddyU mean?
MizzMaxi 3 years ago