No. 1 Startup

[Nastafar]

Damn I love the sound of turbines. Great !!! Now I'm hypnotized.

[mharrop396]

it still amazes me that those things hold together...

[oracle2world]

If folks are enthralled by watching a jet engine spin up, they need to get a life.

[DIJITALSON]

@oracle2world if folks have nothing better to do than write bullshit comments on youtube, they need to get a life!

[oracle2world]

@DIJITALSON - well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me! You like that hypnotic spiral? It's okay, you are amongst friends.

[Engineer9736]

@oracle2world It's not the worst group of people on YouTube. There are as well persons who enjoy filming the legs of stewardesses.

[CommercialAirliner]

that spinning would make a good washing machine!

[m88123ify]

u can use the engine center that has the swirly thingy to hypnotize people, great!

[87earth]

i wanna touch it

[rsidney23]

This better than watch porn....beautiful....

[Bsklarski]

Looks like an air start.... took a long time to spool up. I worked with airbuses at United on the ramp and when we had to do an air start, it took a long time to start them, like shown here.

[Skuksy]

Is there a reason for that swirly thing in the centre of the engines?

[lsomex]

@Skuksy Mainly is for the mechanic or ops to realize if the engine is turning, also if the engine is turning on the right direction

[PhilG380]

@lsomex Erm, no. They are put there to drive birds crazy. Birds avoid the "swirly" thing in most instances. You will notice that Pratt and Whitney engines just have a bar that goes in one direction. Trust me, the pilot would be the first to know if the engine was going in the wrong direction. Not to mention, it's fairly impossible for an engine to go the wrong direction. Even with reverse thrust, the engine is still turning the same direction, the thrust just gets vectored differently.

[mwwx429]

@Skuksy To scare the birds rather

[mwwx429]

@Skuksy To scare the birds rather

[JacobApple1]

@Skuksy it is also there to make you dizzy!! ;P

[goingtobeapilot]

@Skuksy And as a ramp worker there is so much noise as it is, you cant always tell just by sound which engine is running. Obviously if you get to close to a running engine you'll get sucked in. The swirly things definitely save lives.

[presstrigga]

how come you and the camera didnt get sucked into the engine?

[kiaksar2142]

The Hair Dryer of Chuck Norris xD

[MrTacos147]

THROW A WATERMELLON INTO IT

[KCBOYZ1307]

@xjt1000 You Wouldnt Call Me A Nerd If You Saw Me... No Glasses, No Highwaters, Play Four Sports, Not Really A Nerd I Just Know ALOT About Planes On Top Of All That

[ifly462]

Thats an airbus a320 engine isent it?

[mharrop396]

be funny if you made sound effects of an old Chrysler starting...

[SteveWard3928]

Think I could attach one of these to my scooter? ;)

[x0men]

your auto focus didn't know what to focus on!!

[mkeblackstone]

it's iae v2500

[yoyoyoyoshua]

delta A319?

[gcoochy]

IAE make the V2500 an engine alliance company mostly owned by Rolls-Royce, the engine powers the Airbus A319/320/321, the CFM is a company alliance with GE and Snecma of France.

[TheNayNayRemix]

tis an IAE V2500

[ernst2able]

Thank you all for interesting information about jet engine start up procedures

[KCBOYZ1307]

It looks like a CFM but im not sure it could be an IAE

[lsomex]

@KCBOYZ1307 It´s an IAE, you can check the spinner, usually the CFM is kinda more "rounded" ;)

[KCBOYZ1307]

@lsomex I see thanks for the info(:

[Mr96little]

@lsomex Thats a genral electric u spaz

[Nastafar]

Can someone tell me what CFM and IAE are? I had no success looking it up. Thanks.

[lsomex]

@Nastafar CFM and IAE are the engines used by Airbus to power the A320 narrowbody family, CFM is the comercial name of the engine developed by GE-SNECMA, IAE stands for International Aero Engines (another joint where Rolls Royce, Pratt&Whitney, MTU and other 2)

Best Regards

[Nastafar]

Thank you for enlightening me on it. I was curious.

[Nastafar]

Thanks. I appreciate the info.

[87earth]

@KCBOYZ1307 whats an CFM or IAE? thanks

[KCBOYZ1307]

@87earth They are types of engines... CFM's are realy called CFM56's they're made by GE and they're also used on the whole NG series for the 737, they just have a different nacelle because of how low the wings are set. IAE's are probably made by Rolls Royce in Europe... but i'm not realy sure on that one they are the main engine variant for the A320 series( A318, A319, A320, A321), you can google CFM56 or IAE and most likely somthing about the A320 will show up.... hope this helps

[DaBushy]

@KCBOYZ1307 its an IAE V2500

[KCBOYZ1307]

@DaBushy Those are the only ones... right?

[DaBushy]

@KCBOYZ1307 yep

[KCBOYZ1307]

@DaBushy Okay thanks for makin it clear

[swissboy374]

@KCBOYZ1307 The CFM-56 has no plastic spinner, the spinner of CFM is round and ist metalic..

[KCBOYZ1307]

@swissboy374 I know that now, I didn't know a whole lot about a-busses back then, I know everythig about them now.

[Jebucristo]

Man how'd you get that close to it!

[lsomex]

@Jebucristo zoom helps ;)

[aromchuen]

@lsomex Manual Focus also helps ;P

[ernst2able]

Does a jet engine self "decide" when it is time to ignite the fuel after the starter has been activated or does the piot push a separate buton to ignite?

[lsomex]

@ernst2able

With the new engines, computers do all the trick, but sometimes pilot has to do "manually" for the ignition, it depends on the engine, the parameter you should check for the ignition/start

[yahweh18]

@ernst2able Airbus is completely computerized. All you have to do is move the started switch behind the thrust levers to the on position and monitor that the temperature limit is not exceeded and you don't have a hot start. There are airbus start ups videos on youtube and you can see all of this.

[Farmerpilot13]

@yahweh18 good by to hung starts

[KCBOYZ1307]

@ernst2able on the Airbuses that the FFBW system they dont need to manually hit all of the ignition switches, all Boeing aircraft have them i think Embraers have them too, its mainly just airbuses that dont

[Farmerpilot13]

@KCBOYZ1307 those arent exactly ignition switches.... they arm the start valve and open the bleed valve and start the start up sequence

[bobbj77]

@ernst2able nope, manual fuel on @25%, maybe newer ones do tho

[Farmerpilot13]

@ernst2able  depends...... on crj engines ignition is started by the pilot most of the time it is automatic though..... when an engine is started fuel is not immediatly injected instEAD THE PILOT WAITS FOR N2 to increase and then allows fuel into the engine

[mghaz]

any idea at what RPM it's start injecting Kerosene and it reaches up which RPM at full load

[douro20]

It takes over 200 horsepower to get these engines turning to the speed required for ignition. Electric motors are impractical for turning over engines this big so they are often started with an air motor.

[vobotix]

@douro20

They use air bleed from the APU to start the engines

[lecktDasAciD]

nice video...but v2500 got power like a hoover°°°°

[theironfreak]

Do they start the rotor turning with an electric motor?

[lsomex]

@theironfreak Nope, it´s an pneumatic starter, that´s why the noise before start

[narlzp]

@theironfreak No they use a compressor (compressed air) hence that hissing sound you hear. Its also as lsomex has mentioned called a (pneumatic starter). Electric starters are normally for cars and small trucks. Trucks I think also use pneumatic starters if I am right perhaps the big ones I am not sure.

[Z32spdstr]

@theironfreak the motor is mount inside the nose of the engine thats its housing so the nose has its functional purpose so that also explain the loud hissing of air thats required to power the motor to fire up these bad boys up well when u say pneumatic u think of air just like air tools wratchets, impact guns to remove lug nuts of wheel on cars hammer ect. they require air

[goboy217]

@theironfreak Or the APU along with external power, depending on the Aircraft like the MD 11

[d0rkiishchris]

@theironfreak theres an apu in the rear of the plane that is a tiny jet engine on its own. It provides electrical power and air pressure. The air pressure is ducted throughout the plane and to the engines to start them. The air is blown in to begin them turning. Once they reach a certain N2 fuel is cut on and not too long after the engine will spin on its own.

[Farmerpilot13]

@d0rkiishchris yeah and if you cut starter power to early with fue valves open youl get a hung start

[LafreniereJ]

@theironfreak No, it's Started with Air Pressure from the APU (Aux Power Unit). A Jet engine at the back of the aircraft. The innitial spinning is not the engine itse;f, but the air-pressure being blown into the engine, through tubes inside the aircraft, from the Back of the plane, to this engine. Once enough pressure built up, Fuel fed in, and ignited, and the engine then can self run.

If the APU is broken,. the A/C will need a boost from a truck with an engine called an "Air Start"

[hdyudu]

if you listen carefuly you can actually hear it ignite it sound like a poof and a rooring of the combustion after sound about same sound you hear when your home heating furnace lights up, you can also see it the fan start spining faster

[g17y5wb]

Nice video. Maybe manual focus next time, huh?

[lsomex]

@g17y5wb Yup, done it on the other startup vids ;)

[cycool100]

u do not wanna put a hand finger or nail in there it will kill u in a instant

[TheAppleMan100]

Lets Throw Justin Bieber in there

[RickyboyH]

@TheAppleMan100 That would be a waste of a perfectly good engine! ;)

[pingpongpung]

@TheAppleMan100 Let's stop spamming Youtube with that name!

[Gerleg08]

@TheAppleMan100 poor plane

[tubefluid]

@TheAppleMan100 You would be ruining a perfectly good engine. LOL

[rusupersic]

@TheAppleMan100 no good destroying such an engine :D

[kinsley2108]

This one spins the wrong way.

[kari513lily]

whats the point of having that spiral thing on the engine??

[mohaas05]

@kari513lily It's so that ground personnel can tell if the turbine is spinning, such as at night.

[johngettershow]

@kari513lily the tip has a sensor telling the poilots how fast the engine is going as well. such as rpm and other things

[kizitoutube]

@kari513lily

To scare birds away, they can't percieve the spining fan blades until they're too close but they do notice the wobble effect of the spiral.

[FI1981]

I love that sound

[FernandoEstebanEsteb]

@michaelbobe1 Normaly fuel in when 15% of Max RPM is reached

[redsquirrelftw]

Great way to dry your hair before an early morning flight

[dipu94321]

oh yes,i remember these engines.pretty quiet

[vroomba03]

Jet blue?

[hasanjohnh]

Ducted Fan :D

[Jetairwayscaptain]

@michaelbobe1 We use the generators to turn, once we reach between 22, and 25% rpm, we will open the fuel valves. Because of the density of the fuel, it would not ignite from scratch so the generators bring the fan to speed helping thin out the fuel. and thats a very basic analysis on how, why, when......VERY BASIC LOL

[lsomex]

@michaelbobe1

Around 0:52 is when fuel gets in, usually when the N2 is arround 20%, older IAE´s like the one of the video take their time to start

[Oster910]

Is this united airlines

[killabb24]

Looks like JetBlue blue... JetBlue also uses these types of engines.. I could be wrong :P Engine sounds beautiful

[DenisKomment]

why doesn't a plane move when engines run at full power? good brakes on wheels?

[killman369547]

@DenisKomment pretty much

[nofakeprater]

airbus cfm 56?

[lsomex]

@nofakeprater

Nope, it´s an IAE V2500 engine, indeed on an airbus (A320)

[lionheart270866]

Rival Manufacturers will always use competitor equipment to establish their difference in design and performance from the other. Boeing uses CFM56 engines from a long standing agreement with GE/ CFM Intnl. from the classic series and into the NG series and abandoned the V2500 with the new 717. Also Boeing's military ties. The CFM's are fuel efficient, experienced and well modernized to Boeing's and Airbus including the 320. Clearance was resolved by an engineered cowling and forward placement.

[britishairwayspilot1]

it looks like an a320

[bangladeshb0y]

wat kind of plane is it? a 737?

[lsomex]

Negative, it´s an A320

[golds079]

@lsomex or 321

[cem719]

throw a rock in there and see what happens

[bobbj77]

@cem719 lol, $3million piece of scrap

[fuji2failo]

so.. is like starting a giant vacuum???

[flyinga320]

Love V2500 engines!

Coming from someone who operates these things, I prefer the V25 to the CFM 56 - the airline I work for has both.

[damiantymkiw]

Are you a pilot?

[flyinga320]

Yes I am. Flying to Barcelona later on today!

Dan

[damiantymkiw]

Can you tell me what you did to become a pilot. Im 14 and I really want to be a pilot, I've always wanted to be one since I was 8.What do u need to become a pilot? Certain schools, marks?

[SweatyFunSeeker]

@damiantymkiw all the liscenses and a 4 year degree from a college

[christychackojohn]

You dont need a four year degree to work as a pilot.

[SweatyFunSeeker]

you dont but its highly recommended just ask any pilot

[christychackojohn]

Well right now i am currently doing my degree in aeronautical science (professional Pilot) in Embry-Riddle aeronautical university. To work as a pilot you dont need a degree it is recommended because of the tough economy of airlines. If they are in need for pilot some companies do not recommend for a degree but it depends upon the flying hours.

[cessnawings67]

No you do not! Well said.

[ilovelu]

specially in mexico LOL

[cloudbook1994]

@damiantymkiw the only thing you really need is just a clean criminal record

[christychackojohn]

Embry Riddle is the best university.

[InuKun2008]

@christychackojohn Actually, the University of North Dakota (UND) is deemed the best aeronautical university to attend, as classified by both the FAA and the aviation industry, due to the flying conditions at UND and the partnership they have with the onsite Meteorological department. Though Embry is still a great university, only the recruiters declare Embry as #1. The industry disagrees with them on that.

[InuKun2008]

It's for that reason that whilst more expensive than using Embry would be, foreign carriers are only too happy to send their new recruits to UND for training.

[bigkevinpetrona]

@InuKun2008 yeah u r right man i wanted to attend und but im in new jersey and who the hell do i know in that ice-box of a state and the nearest relative is in cali so yeah didnt atend and plus room and board would have eaten me alive out there

[8QQHC]

@damiantymkiw

Your profile says you're 21 - bullshit won't land you a pilot job.

[edubiela]

@damiantymkiw You must find a AirClub or AeroClub and take more informations from there.

[w5cdt]

Wow..that took long enough.

[rodthepimp]

WARNING! Keep genitals away from moving engine blades

[TheBabybus318]

I LOVE THE ENGINE SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!

simply beautiful

[ckelly202]

hypnotised !!!!!!

[EagleTalons1]

I use to like the DC 8's with the older motors on them start up and have that whistle sound after they start #1. I can't remember what that was about though, if it was a valve closing and causing that sound through the air tubes that blow over the windsheild maybe, like a relief? Oh well, still liked the sound it made. lol

[yudasgoat2000]

Really daft question.

Anyone know why Boeing doesn't offer IAE V2500's as an engine option on 737's?

[lsomex]

In a few words, engine size and the height of the plane, the 737 is lower than the A320, IAE will need to make an engine with a smaller fan ratio to fit the 737´s wing and pylon clearance.

[gcoochy]

@yudasgoat2000 yes because this engine is not designed for this class of plane, RR never developed an engine for the 737 because it wanted to go on to the large engine market so left it up to GE/SNECMA to have all the market, it would have been the Trent 600 which was never built

[Cyberacc]

Enjoyed that, thanks. The autofocus on that camera is pulsing badly. Turning off autofocus would have made the video much less jerky.

[piper4seeformerly]

at what rpm is the engine running on its own power and not from the starting motor? I couldn't hear any difference in the engine sound to indicate it was burning fuel.

[lsomex]

more less it starts at about 20% N2; you can hear a slight change in sound arround at 0:54, there´s when the engine starts running by itself

[bernard240vdc]

the fan on these engines generate great thrust due largely to the great size and many blades and efficient baffling of the airflow

[bernard240vdc]

well as far as rpms go iwould say that the fan at the very front of this engine is not turning all that fast this fan is geared down from the main compressor  turbine shaft that would be turning faster also on turbine engines the high picht sound is due to the high number of blades on the turbine shaft passing very close to the stationary blades of the engines stator this gives the impression of higher rpms

[ShokaLion]

It's not geared down, it runs off its own shaft. The N1 shaft connects the front fan to the very rearmost turbines, they turn as one unit. Then the high pressure portion of the engine spins at it's own speed as well. You're right in saying the front fan won't be going nearly as fast as the high pressure part of the engine though.

[uptheirons1986]

woooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!! 5 stars

[FPVsean]

holy shit, youd be FUCKED if you threw the camera in there...

[Bradlz193]

bahahahahahahahahaha i no aye fark

[adooma1984]

These are also used on the MD 90s

[CNe7532294]

the yellow swirl was tripping me out LOL great startup =D

[0Bastiaan0]

Don't dare put your finger in it now XD

[Juliansworld]

how many revolutions per second are those blades spinning?

[lsomex]

In theory, at idle that engine is spinning at about 8-10,000 rpm´s, I´m not so sure and not being able to confirm

[tonyppe]

haha good vid. if you could see round the back you sometimes get to see a puff when the fuel gets injected and ignited, or you get to see the distortion in the air because of the exhaust gas.

also this video is funny because you camera cant understand why it cant focus :D

[lsomex]

That´s more often on low by-pass ratio engines like the JT8, i´ll try to shot some of those (if I don´t catch fire on the attemp....)

[cjellwood]

i think i have a fetish for jets lol

[n787mx]

we all do :D

[Oster131]

Sounds like my Xbox!

[Boeing94]

@Oster131 hahaxD

[blkMafiaMan]

@Oster131 Exactly what I was thinking.

[pilotanthony]

@Oster131 looool

[TheNieker1]

@Oster131 then you have a nice Xbox XD

[michaely94]

do you know what is the meaning of zoom ?? -.-

[Cooterrob]

so ground crew knows the compressor is spinning.

[monkeynuts76]

sounds like my toyota corolla.

[adooma1984]

It looks like a v2500 international aerospace engine on either an a320 or an a319 but I could be wrong

[lsomex]

yup, it´s a IAE V2500-A1 on a A320

[schwenk9]

I belive that you would be sucked in if you got within fifteen feet . Im basing that on info I have on a GE-90 that says it will pull in anything in a 25 foot radius.I guessed a lower number as it is smaller than the near 12 foot fan in the GE90.I gleaned it from a text book on gas turbine maintainance.Thanks for the video,it is nice to know other people like to stare at turbofans. I have told my wife that I want my ashes to be sucked into a JT8D9A upon my passing.

[r3000sky]

lmfao

[ADVSebastiao]

Nom tem graça nenhuma.

[d0rkiishchris]

wow dude, now you know to use the manual focus. very annoying

[miguelthepilot]

i wonder what would happen to you if you are right in front of those engines?

[cxon]

Slurp!!!

[Thisizmyname]

you'll go in as 1 piece and come out in 6

[skilos18]

You d wish they where only 6 pieces.... i imagine it like geting in solid and leaving from the back of the engine liquid... or sometimes dont leaving the engine at all..

[chercle]

Did you find out the RPM yet? How does that compare to the RPM at full throttle?

[Airplanesaremything]

ok....just wondering

[Airplanesaremything]

can you tell what series(like for example 737-800) just by looking at the plane?

[lsomex]

If you look to the entire plane, yes, it´s possible.

[poisunoskid]

yes, its not hard to tell the difference, maybe with an a320 and a319 but yh u can tell the difference

[deeejaychrissyb]

Ahh here we go a typical airbus, boeing argument. Guys who actually fly them understand they both have their floors and advantages over the other. With regards to the V2500, it has a 50second dry crank (its actually 51) to stop fan blade bowing before the fuel is injected and thrust is produced. No more Airbus dissing please, I once agreed with those comments then I was happily proven WRONG.

[dogday2319]

It's an airbus the little airplane made outa

junk,take a look at the gear the drag brace

is a dead give away. Airbus the purest from

of crap ever made.lol

[TheFudgeFlyer]

airbus use some of the most advanced technology to build their aircraft but i love boeing too!!