@DerPilotMann - That's like asking "IF I buy a lottery ticket will it be a winner" All the expenses of owning an airplane are incurred from the panel forward. A $15,000 Cessna will almost certainly be near it's TBO....have many hours on the airframe,...possible damage history (but not always, of course) and require YOU....yes YOU to do the homework and figure out for YOURSELF it $15k is a bargain or a money pit waiting to happen. An engine overhaul can run $30k. Are you IFR or VFR only????
@iSkateUshuffle You could not understand that? "Number 2 Paul, cleared into the tracks, Smoke off." He was giving Paul clearance to take off.. I'm guessing you never flown in a cockpit of a plane before ;)
The worst decisions of my life was to buy an aircraft. I've had 3, and as the old saying goes, if it flyes , fu**, or floats you don't buy one , you rent one. I was even an active aircraft mechanic and it still didn't help that much. Airplanes are great fun , but if I had gone out and paid for 'block time' in a rental aircraft I would have come out much better financially and had been able to try out several different types of a/c...u are warned ..
The one thing to consider with a new plan is the considerable tax benefits that are currently available for new planes that are not available for used planes. A high income pilot can actually buy a brand new 172 and the first year after taxes he will have more money in his pocket than if he had not bought the plane. The IRS pays about 1/3 of the cost of the airplane, maybe more depending on your situation. You can get similar tax benefits if you buy a new engine or panel 4 your old plane
Most people don't realize how expensive planes really are. I'll put in into perspective: A small Cessna with a decent useful load (carrying capacity) will cost about $600,000 USD
If you were to buy a new small helicopter (like the one on the Magnum P.I. television show), you'd be spending over $1,000,000 !
What about buying a new, basic, 2 seat Cessna that people use for learning to fly? You'll have to spend over $100,000 USD
Buy a used Cessna 150-152 it will be between $10,000-$20,000 and it will be rather old, and probably smell funny. If you get a slightly larger plane still used it can be $40,000 plus. I would not consider buying a new plane unless I won the lottery lol.
@DerPilotMann Isn't that the issue isn't it? A smart man would buy a used plane for they are just as good as new ones but cost less, but without idiots buying brand new planes the industry would go to the shits. So technically the industry survives thanks to idiots. LMFAO. sad but true.
@marick626 If you have the money i don't see the issue in getting a new plane. Newer planes actually are a bit better from what i understand. I don't have numbers to back me up, but when i trained on 172's i was talking to a student who had a much older one (with a newly rebuilt engine and new prop) and he said that although it had better power than some of the other 172's it would just plummet once he cut the throttle. I never did get a chance to fly it...
@ebouwman034 The flight characteristics on the 1964 that I own and the 2006 that I fly in are almost identical... the only difference is that my flap controls are a little worn out to put it correctly :)... I just put a stall kit on mine and the thing takes off like a banshee... it acts like a stol kit.
@meinshnake I guess i can only speak for the planes i've flown/seen. Also i was comparing planes with different engines (a continental vs a lycoming) putting out different performance numbers, the lycoming (which was better) was bolted to a larger prop with a much better profile as well.
So '06 you should have a glass cockpit right? Those looks sweet. And a stall kit... is that the one where you put those vortex generators on the top of the wing near the leading edge? STOL kits are amazing :D
@DerPilotMann one thing 2 consider with a new plan is the large tax benefits are currently available 4 new planes that are not available for used planes A high income pilot can buy a brand new 172 and the first year after taxes he will have more money in his pocket than if he had not bought the plane. The IRS pays about 1/3 of the cost of the airplane, maybe more depending on your situation. You can get similar tax benefits if you buy a new engine or panel 4 your old plane
@martyburbank Yes, but even being able to get the financing for a new aircraft is difficult, especially without already being pretty wealthy. Certainly something to keep in mind about the panel though! Hopefully in about 5 or 6 years I will have the means to purchase a nice plane, hopefully a 210, if not a 182, or a piper (undecided on which model, flew an archer II recently, it was fantastic!)
Real world figures are about $300,000 (180,00 pounds) used for a decent aircraft. You'll be spending over $1,000,000 USD for a race ready aircraft. Remember to add indirect costs to the cost per flight hour flown in addition to the purchase price and required options.
Anyone can buy one of these... your wallet is the only thing keeping you from owning one ;)
ya know......these days they have pretty fancy cameras....like the one on Discovery's 'Planet Earth' had amazing steady high Res footage from miles away.
Ok so the crappy little camera inside the cockpit can easily distinguish a bright blue sky from a white or grey cloud, every other camera can, why not the one in the supposed chase helicopter?
Here's another thing- the'r entry speed is 370km/h. You show me any helicopter which can maintain that sort of speed in controlled level flight.
...and where is the helicpoter in the side on scene? Look at the scenery in both shots and it's clearly at the same point, yet no "chase plane".
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...good luck flying any thing that close immediately behind another aircraft with no turbulence whatsoever, as this scene shows.
Also have a real good look at how many boats there are moored outside the white tent in the actual footage- HEAPS. Almost none at all in the BS "chase video"
to start it off i thought you were talking about the camera at 0:44 dont ask me why i just assumed. as for the chase video, that could very well have been a zoomed in shot from a chase plane or a simulation, and quite frankly, i dont really give a shit. its a great shot either way
and never mind about "visually challenged" comment, i was just throwing around words there...
There was no chase plane I was at the race personally, this copter does 200 kts and loops, it is specially equipped in fact I believe it is the only helecopter certified in the world to do loops
@DerPilotMann - That's like asking "IF I buy a lottery ticket will it be a winner" All the expenses of owning an airplane are incurred from the panel forward. A $15,000 Cessna will almost certainly be near it's TBO....have many hours on the airframe,...possible damage history (but not always, of course) and require YOU....yes YOU to do the homework and figure out for YOURSELF it $15k is a bargain or a money pit waiting to happen. An engine overhaul can run $30k. Are you IFR or VFR only????
Imustfly 1 month ago
LoL at the guy picking his nose in the beginning !
GeNiTaliA90 2 months ago 5
@GeNiTaliA90
Apparently boogers are good for slicking back eyebrows. Who knew?!
Dajida 1 month ago
alright alright....... but will it blend. and did anyone notice the guy picking his nose in the tower to the right?
gowill2 3 months ago 2
@MrTails94 lol
TheBoeing737Pilot 5 months ago
do they speak like shit on purpose?
cause nobody understands that strange talkind starting at 0:01 - 0:07
iSkateUshuffle 8 months ago
@iSkateUshuffle No problem understanding what he said
MIRCWOOD 8 months ago
@iSkateUshuffle You could not understand that? "Number 2 Paul, cleared into the tracks, Smoke off." He was giving Paul clearance to take off.. I'm guessing you never flown in a cockpit of a plane before ;)
DownriverFlyers 6 months ago
@DownriverFlyers actually he said smoke on, because he was cleared into the tracks..
"maybe youve never flown in a cockpit of a plane before :)"
habbitatares 4 months ago
@iSkateUshuffle I understood it perectly well, maybe you have shit in your ears.
jasonfish07 6 months ago
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@iSkateUshuffle I understood it perfectly well, maybe you have shit in your ears.
jasonfish07 6 months ago
The worst decisions of my life was to buy an aircraft. I've had 3, and as the old saying goes, if it flyes , fu**, or floats you don't buy one , you rent one. I was even an active aircraft mechanic and it still didn't help that much. Airplanes are great fun , but if I had gone out and paid for 'block time' in a rental aircraft I would have come out much better financially and had been able to try out several different types of a/c...u are warned ..
wrh61 10 months ago
The one thing to consider with a new plan is the considerable tax benefits that are currently available for new planes that are not available for used planes. A high income pilot can actually buy a brand new 172 and the first year after taxes he will have more money in his pocket than if he had not bought the plane. The IRS pays about 1/3 of the cost of the airplane, maybe more depending on your situation. You can get similar tax benefits if you buy a new engine or panel 4 your old plane
martyburbank 11 months ago
that takes balls
GriManiac 1 year ago
Oh Common NEVER SEEN BEFORE !!!? I was hoping to see some Body parts or something....!!!?
Ebdan88 1 year ago 2
I remember the race director voice in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil - Very good race of Paul Bonhomme
Pedroc280 1 year ago
that is amazing hands and feet!!!!
Ulai777 2 years ago 16
ESPN Air Sports
ALBORNOZ24AMG 2 years ago
what tv station! and what time!?
pimpjuice8921573 2 years ago
for me i live in wisconsin, it is on a local channel at random times
sailindude1221 2 years ago
what tv station brodcasts this?
cessnaN60128 2 years ago
That was IT ??? BFD...
carlosmurphy4u1 2 years ago
no real credit should go to the pilots who are able to pull this off...its amazing. i've never seen anything like this before.
FM2865 2 years ago
Most people don't realize how expensive planes really are. I'll put in into perspective: A small Cessna with a decent useful load (carrying capacity) will cost about $600,000 USD
If you were to buy a new small helicopter (like the one on the Magnum P.I. television show), you'd be spending over $1,000,000 !
What about buying a new, basic, 2 seat Cessna that people use for learning to fly? You'll have to spend over $100,000 USD
likeawhispr 2 years ago
Buy a used Cessna 150-152 it will be between $10,000-$20,000 and it will be rather old, and probably smell funny. If you get a slightly larger plane still used it can be $40,000 plus. I would not consider buying a new plane unless I won the lottery lol.
DerPilotMann 2 years ago 30
@DerPilotMann Isn't that the issue isn't it? A smart man would buy a used plane for they are just as good as new ones but cost less, but without idiots buying brand new planes the industry would go to the shits. So technically the industry survives thanks to idiots. LMFAO. sad but true.
marick626 1 year ago
@marick626 If you have the money i don't see the issue in getting a new plane. Newer planes actually are a bit better from what i understand. I don't have numbers to back me up, but when i trained on 172's i was talking to a student who had a much older one (with a newly rebuilt engine and new prop) and he said that although it had better power than some of the other 172's it would just plummet once he cut the throttle. I never did get a chance to fly it...
ebouwman034 1 year ago
@ebouwman034 The flight characteristics on the 1964 that I own and the 2006 that I fly in are almost identical... the only difference is that my flap controls are a little worn out to put it correctly :)... I just put a stall kit on mine and the thing takes off like a banshee... it acts like a stol kit.
meinshnake 1 year ago
@meinshnake I guess i can only speak for the planes i've flown/seen. Also i was comparing planes with different engines (a continental vs a lycoming) putting out different performance numbers, the lycoming (which was better) was bolted to a larger prop with a much better profile as well.
So '06 you should have a glass cockpit right? Those looks sweet. And a stall kit... is that the one where you put those vortex generators on the top of the wing near the leading edge? STOL kits are amazing :D
ebouwman034 1 year ago
@marick626 Sad, but true - can`t agree more =O
1Nekit1 1 year ago
@DerPilotMann one thing 2 consider with a new plan is the large tax benefits are currently available 4 new planes that are not available for used planes A high income pilot can buy a brand new 172 and the first year after taxes he will have more money in his pocket than if he had not bought the plane. The IRS pays about 1/3 of the cost of the airplane, maybe more depending on your situation. You can get similar tax benefits if you buy a new engine or panel 4 your old plane
martyburbank 11 months ago
@martyburbank Yes, but even being able to get the financing for a new aircraft is difficult, especially without already being pretty wealthy. Certainly something to keep in mind about the panel though! Hopefully in about 5 or 6 years I will have the means to purchase a nice plane, hopefully a 210, if not a 182, or a piper (undecided on which model, flew an archer II recently, it was fantastic!)
DerPilotMann 11 months ago
@DerPilotMann or get a uset kit built and hope the seller knew what he was doing
40joel 4 months ago
@DerPilotMann IF i buy cessna for 15000 is it gonna be reliable ?
bubuteishvili 3 months ago
Real world figures are about $300,000 (180,00 pounds) used for a decent aircraft. You'll be spending over $1,000,000 USD for a race ready aircraft. Remember to add indirect costs to the cost per flight hour flown in addition to the purchase price and required options.
Anyone can buy one of these... your wallet is the only thing keeping you from owning one ;)
likeawhispr 2 years ago
how much do those planes cost? Is there an equvalant available to the public? They look like great fun!!!
redteapot1 2 years ago
They are great fun if you are skilled and fit enough to be able to pull those extreme maneuvers without passing out and killing your self!
Not too many people can endure 10G of load and be able to have the mental capacity to maneuver the aircraft with this kind of precision.
LeontariF1 2 years ago 3
This was filmed by a helicopter with a high tech camera. Just looks close but its not. Watch the RedBull races on TV and you would know that..
adslparts 2 years ago
makes sense
pvtdangles 2 years ago
it is reall deal with it!
salcombesurfer 2 years ago
it couldve just been filmed before the race as a bit of extra footage by a chase plane ya dickheads
pvtdangles 2 years ago
It's real. You're a fucking moron.
hsd628 2 years ago
of course its real dickhead..
pvtdangles 2 years ago
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From 0:17 to 0:32 is fake. The rest is obviously real...how can you people not see it?
sirmelon 2 years ago
but it looks real?
f22raptor861 2 years ago
Some computer games today look so lifelike it's difficult to tell the difference. It's a real credit to the creators of the games and the hardware .
sirmelon 2 years ago
I know the person who was behind the camera. What do you say to that, you big fucking liar?
hsd628 2 years ago
ya know......these days they have pretty fancy cameras....like the one on Discovery's 'Planet Earth' had amazing steady high Res footage from miles away.
djkidchaos 2 years ago 3
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i used to really enjoy this stuff...now, as i get older i have become more impressed with a flock of geese or the flight of a hummingbird.
jjjazzycraig 2 years ago
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That is quite obviously a fake- look at the sky in the "chase" shot compared to every other shot. It's a flight sim.
sirmelon 2 years ago
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complete genius... no more word needed for you srimelon
zizikelizike 2 years ago
they used different cameras for that shot thats why it looks different. either that or you must be visually challenged
a155099 2 years ago
Ok so the crappy little camera inside the cockpit can easily distinguish a bright blue sky from a white or grey cloud, every other camera can, why not the one in the supposed chase helicopter?
Here's another thing- the'r entry speed is 370km/h. You show me any helicopter which can maintain that sort of speed in controlled level flight.
...and where is the helicpoter in the side on scene? Look at the scenery in both shots and it's clearly at the same point, yet no "chase plane".
sirmelon 2 years ago
Wow, I really never thought the world had this much capacity for true dimwits.
DarkAlex174 2 years ago
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...good luck flying any thing that close immediately behind another aircraft with no turbulence whatsoever, as this scene shows.
Also have a real good look at how many boats there are moored outside the white tent in the actual footage- HEAPS. Almost none at all in the BS "chase video"
You're the one who is visually challenged.
It's a good fake- nothing more.
sirmelon 2 years ago
to start it off i thought you were talking about the camera at 0:44 dont ask me why i just assumed. as for the chase video, that could very well have been a zoomed in shot from a chase plane or a simulation, and quite frankly, i dont really give a shit. its a great shot either way
and never mind about "visually challenged" comment, i was just throwing around words there...
a155099 2 years ago
Or could be one big cloud.
Uberpsycho994 2 years ago
u are stupid sirmelon, " that is quite obviously a fake"???? u chat shit
whiteass92 2 years ago
Go and get an education you child.
sirmelon 2 years ago
There was no chase plane I was at the race personally, this copter does 200 kts and loops, it is specially equipped in fact I believe it is the only helecopter certified in the world to do loops
jazzinman 2 years ago
yING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
joetomamymon 3 years ago
Totaly Sick!
joetomamymon 3 years ago 3
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cLICK ON mE
joetomamymon 3 years ago
how do they get that camera that follows him the whole time before he enters the course
ShowerCurtain31 3 years ago 2
Helicopter...
The Red Bull Helicopter follows them through the course.
katana4 3 years ago
yeah that is what i was thinking. i just never seen the helicopter behind it so i didn't know if it was that or what
ShowerCurtain31 3 years ago
when was the last time you saw a helicopter going 200 knots?
drick64 3 years ago
The first shot is from a chase plane, then it cuts to the helicopter just before he enters the course.
you238 3 years ago
uh pretty baller
rsxxxrsownage 3 years ago
That's So Cool
Egghead83 3 years ago