J.S. Bach : Choral "Es ist genug, ..." (BWV 60)

[CaptainBluebear08]

zu gehetzt.

[eragon812]

diese harmonik und akkordfolge ist einfach wundervoll..

[musicguy119]

Trying to analyze this chorale is either heaven or hell. Haven't decided yet. The bass part is awesome. 0:08 Descending A Major scale. 0:42 Just really fun. 0:52 - 0:59 Straight chromatic fall. It's just awesome.

[EASYTIGER10]

This is the only Bach choral that uses every note of the chromatic scale. It's partly why Berg used it in his violin concerto. It's always sounded slightly otherworldly to me. On the surface it sounds conventional, but there's a kind of unsettling strangeness to it.

Does anyone else find this?

[GrauenausderTiefe]

@EASYTIGER10 Also the first first 3 notes ending in in an #4 interval fit well into the less tonal idea of Berg.

I thinks its the most modern sounding Bach Choral ever.^^

[fannybaba]

Used to sing this with Shoreham college choir, directed by Andrew Teague

[artois54]

It may be wrong, but in the original voices, written by Bach it ist "genung". I guess, Bach wrote it by mistake. MAy be he wrote it because it sounds better.

[garfreed]

Praise Bach!

[eonicon]

Sehr schön, einzig die Abschlussfermate ist mir etwas zu extrem. Nicht nur, wenn man es als "Einzelwerk" im Chor einübt, sondern sogar als Abschlusskantate... Aber ist wohl Geschmackssache

[artois54]

BAch reads "Es ist genung"

[blackenedchaoz]

@artois54 still, it is "Es ist genug". Whereever you read "genung", it's wrong.

[Timrath]

@blackenedchaoz "Genung" is correct. The original also reads "mein Jesus kömmt" instead of "kommt," a few lines later. That's simply how they spelled it back then. German orthography did change a bit since Bach's times.

[DerletzteMongorianer]

@Timrath

well timrath, i AM german, and they sing "es ist genug" :) "es ist genug herr wenn es dir gefällt"

the word "genung" doesn't exist :)

[Timrath]

@DerletzteMongorianer I'm a native German speaker myself, but that doesn't mean you know enough about 18th century German to have an authoritative opinion about it. "Genung" was the correct spelling in Bach's time and geographic region. The fact that they changed the spelling afterwards is irrelevant.

Haven't you ever read any old German texts? Do you really believe that contemporary spelling applies to bygone times? You shouldn't go patronising people when you aren't informed on the subject.

[DerletzteMongorianer]

@Timrath

dann verfrachten wir das ma auf deutsch xD, wenn du mal deine öhrchen aufmachst hörst du dass die ganz klar genug singen :) ich höre da (selbst nach dem 16. mal) kein n nach dem u

[Timrath]

@DerletzteMongorianer Wie man das heute ausspricht und wie man es damals geschrieben hat, sind zweierlei Dinge. In der Zauberflöte singt heutzutage ja auch kein Mensch mehr "zu Hülfe, zu Hülfe, sonst bin ich verloren", und in Bachs Kaffeekantate singt man auch nicht mehr "Mädgen die von harten Sinnen". Hast du denn wirklich noch nie in die Partitur geschaut? Was dir deine "Öhrchen" sagen, sollte dich zu keinen spekulativen Rückschlüssen über den Originaltext verleiten.

[robbourassaguitarist]

The best. Praise Christ.