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  • You should be happy. I mean who needs a atheist politicians lying to you. When we already have religious one doing that already.

  • Dammit! I knew it. It's all about the mustache. God has one, Jesus has one, and I can't grow a decent one. I'm not worthy. I'm scum. I'm gonna start praying to Tom Selleck.

  • NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species

  • @Mogley52 your ignorance does not count as evidence against the theory of evolution. i mean your ignorance is overwhelming, amazingly overwhelming, but it just doesn't count as evidence against evolution nor for creatardism. but pls keep on entertaining us atheists with your ignorant drivel.

  • NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species

  • NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM

  • I was thinking of Article 6 of the Constitution: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." The tenth amendment extends this provision to the States. I must admit that I cannot see how any State can maintain a requirement that its officeholders not be atheists under these provisions.

  • Surely a requirement that a person be not an atheist - that is, that a person must have a religion to stand for office - is necessarily a "religious test", and hence unConstitutional? Has there never been a case brought in these States?

  • @puffin51 The Constitution states that religion should take no part in government, and overrides any state laws, so technically anybody should be able to run for office regardless of what the state says.

  • In the statistics by the Federal Bureau of Prisons you mentioned there is a large category of people (about 17%!) who did not give any information about their religious affiliation. I think it is not totally unrealistic to suppose that they are unaffiliated to any organization and therefore fall into the category Atheists/Agnostics/Humanists etc. The share of the general US population unaffiliated to a religious group is 15%. So, 17% of unaffiliated jail inmates is nothing to be proud of!

  • @alagodny I'll have a nice life.

    Enjoy wasting your life being 'pure' (although we all know that those who are slaves to religion still fail to follow the guidelines whenever it suits them), only to find that there's nothing after death. I'll be fucking copious amounts of varying people, drinking, gambling, eating meat on Saturday/Sunday (depending which part of the bible you believe), pissing on churches and generally having a good time. Sucks to be you.

  • @alagodny I'm not Christian, therefore I have all rights to embrace my abilities as a human being and judge the fuck out of everybody.

    And don't tell me to read the bible. I used to believe in God until I read it through front to back for the third time, and realised what a ludicrous cunt God actually was.

  • @alagodny Your failure with logic and reason in that comment is only matched by your worshipping of an insanely evil and malicious deity ¬.¬

  • @alagodny Well, if you're a Christian you shouldn't be judging and insulting others - that's all I'm saying.

    Pressuming you are Christian, of course.

  • @alagodny28 How very non-Christian of you.

  • There are several that ban anyone with Christian connections too, grow up.

  • You're absolutely wrong when you say that abstinence is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy.

    I remember this 2000 year-old story about some Jewish chick named Mary who got pregnant while practicing abstinence.

  • 11 pissed off Christians missed the "Like" button.

  • Ok if there is no God ,If you can`t pay for your sin right or wrong you don`t really care if you have to kill why would you not do it if there is no punishment ofcouse if somebody don`t find out about your crime .other thing the Catholic church is a men made religion and there are many ways to interprete the Bible to my condoms are nice but I hate to use them but is not a sin to me

  • way to go south carolina, I found a fun artlcle about it:

    americanhumanist.o r g/HNN/details/2009-12-can-an-a­theist-serve-in-public-office

    "Herb Silverman, the Secular Coalition for America's president and founder, may be one of the most well-known examples of the challenges atheists running for office face. Silverman fought an eight year battle--culminating in $100,000 spent by South Carolina to keep Silverman out of office "

  • What needs to happen in those states is to start a aethist party, then run for a office. The first one to tell you no, sue their ass off, and the state.

  • I believe that Religious authorities apply a lot of quiet pressure to society to sanction atheists whenever and wherever possible. Atheists are their biggest threat. I would not dare to reveal at my workplace that I am an atheist. I can imagine my boss, who I believe is religious, would try to find a way to fire me.

  • The prison/religion link is not really anything to do with religion itself I think - more to do with education. Atheists tend to be more highly educated, and so in good jobs, whilst religious people tend to be less intelligent and so more likely to be out of work and fall into crime.

  • @grisollon Ya, but it comes down to popular vote in the end. There is no official rule, but candidates know if they declare their unbelief then their campaign is doomed.

  • Obama's an atheist.

  • @freethinker923 he's a christain, don't you remember the fun quotes from his pastor during the elections?

  • its amazing at the hypocrisy of religious people and arrogant WTF yeh that this whole fucking universe was not created for us and only for us how the fuck is that arrogant religious people have the most arrogance of any human beings on the planet its all total bulshit but any one willing to beleive in jonah and the whale has some fucked up logical and reasoning skills

  • @mortuus8 first of all fertillety gods and godesses is not a new concept... it has been around for thousands and thousands of years.

    if u know very little about history and claim a bunch of things u dont know about, well then it might sound dubious.

    i dont bother so much about this discussion that i will get citations.. however look it up for urself: wikipedia ---> birth control ---> history

    as for you, if you dont know about something dont argue like you do.

  • @mortuus8 gffggf

  • @mortuus8 its what i learned in history class aswell as read in articles. i dont know how they knewed it worked or understand how it worked.

    what do u mean whit b? even if it was after christanity how would ppl know that contreceptives would work?

  • 90% of statistics are made up.

  • @awesomenize1 Actually they did a study on that it it turned out that only 73% of statistics were made up. So there :-P

  • 5/5

  • As a Christian I was a missionary among pre-modern people and I saw how brutally hard it is for the children of single parents. They often die from lack of adequate provision.

    While in a modern Western society it is somewhat more feasible for a single parent to raise children, it is still often very hard. In any case, our basic instincts and social values were developed long, long before technology. I think we should respect what evolution built into us. It is there for good historical reasons.

  • I want to make clear that I am writing as a post-Christian. I don't believe anyone is going to hell for fornication. However, I believe that basic sexual morality evolved because certain rules proved conducive to the survival of the species. A taboo against fornication is not a cultural universal, but it is common. The evolutionary reason seems obvious enough: children will be much better cared for by a father than a mother than by only one parent, particularly in a pre-technological culture.

  • Why do people seem so convinced that premarital sexual abstinence is almost impossible? Up until around 1975 or 1980 it was the norm in middle America where I grew up. When I was in high school (1975-79), I would be willing to bet that less than a quarter of the kids had sex before graduation. Back in my parents' high school days probably less than 10% did. Now probably 90 or 95% do. Is abstinence a physical impossibility? No. Should it be the norm? Yes, for many reasons, none religious.

  • @Larsinger58 Genesis 38 states that Onan "spilled his seed onto the Earth." Therefore, he was killed by God.

  • well reasoned. I enjoyed the video!

  • Fantastic video. I've included it on my playlist of atheist/agnostic/humanist videos.

  • 0:24

    hah!

    thats probably how they see atheists too!

  • Great video! Thanks for posting it as a response. Now get to work on more new material!

  • this deserves at least a million veiws....

  • Thomas Jefferson made sure there was a 'wall of seperation' between church and state. Over the the past 230 odd years, religious fundamentalists have tried to tear that wall down. Putting bullshit religious tests for office in state constitutions is part of that.

  • Makes sense.

  • Great video... 5* and sub

  • seriously? athiest can't be elected in 8 states????

    i'm no expert on american law but is that not in breach of the constitution and freedom from religion?

  • Bullshit.

  • No one will give a shit about it until it someone makes a stink. Then, guess what, Fox news will run a story about "Oh these silly atheists. They won't get elected, so why bother!"

  • Isn't it just sad that even if there a great, charismatic politician, who had good intentions, a plan, and knew his/her stuff about law, economics, etc..., this person would likely not be elected, simply because they would not win the religious vote.

  • nah contraceptives have been used thousands of years before christanity, for example during the stone ages they used pig intestines as condoms.

    otherwise ur video is gr8

  • Uuuuuurk: "nah contraceptives have been used thousands of years before christanity, for example during the stone ages they used pig intestines as condoms."

    That statement is false.

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  • @eequalsfb Before contraception infanticide was the most common form of birth control.

    Moses was an example of the common practice of leaving a child to die in the wilderness.

    Religious condemnation meant any found babies condemned to the army or domestic service for religious scum to buy and exploit.

    Religious attitudes to babies has always been sick, many many such killings were done so as not to offend religious dogma.

    Religion wants people to cruely kill their babies like in the bible.

  • @eequalsfb It was sheep bowels they used...(Joke)

  • You really don't know the answer to this? Clearly, 'atheists' don't have the best thinking skills.

    It is because you don't represent anything. You represent opposition. You're "anti-theist". Why don't you actually make something of yourself instead of opposing everyone else? You're brain dead if you don't understand this.

    As for your claim about lower crime rates... It's no surprise that you're more religious than we are. Stop being a pussy and go get laid and break some laws. Wuss.

  • Just in case you're confused by my statement "It's no surprise that you're more religious than we are". In the past the word religious meant trying to merit favor through adherence to the law. This is what the Pharisees were doing. The Pharisees were the atheists. And notice they were accusing Jesus of breaking the laws.

    You're all cowards. Not to mention dumb as rocks when it comes to understanding anything. Keep bitching about how bad you have it in our free country. Complain. Complain.

  • Everybody knows that the underlying reason for atheists not getting elected is because we eat babies(evolved animal). I prefer mine slow cooked on the BBQ with a mild garlic(evolved plant) rub and 4hr marinade with a pepper(evolved plant) and lemon(evolved plant) mixture. A side of evil satanicly blessed potatoes(artificially selectively evolved plant) and of course, two glasses of unholy water(made safe by science) to chase it down.

  • wow what a comment lmao!

  • I forgot to mention desert.

    My fave is baby hair moose a la chocolat. The tricky part of this dish is to make sure you get the tender hair from the nape of the neck or it gets too stringy. The part where you warm up the hair is crucial to the recipe. If you heat it up too quick, it will burn and come out nasty.

    Garnish with a swirl of baby blood, well oxygenated( fresh kill).

  • omg i hope your joking

  • OMT, yes I am. ;)

  • Personally I could care less as to whether the politician being elected is religious or atheist, as what matters the most is how good they handle their power, and how wise and just their decisions are and whether they *love* the people they rule or are just doing it for themselves, their egos, more power, etc.

  • Can I get a source for the "fewer atheists in prison" bit. I've heard it many times in atheistic arguments, but I've never seen any source, much less a reliable one, cited.

    It seems like one of those factoids that gets tossed around and used because it is convenient and helpful to do so, but most atheists I know can't say where it came from or how they are so sure it is true.

    I just want to know that it is actually true before I go using it in my own arguments against other people's "truths."

  • U.S. Federal Bureau of Prison Statistics

  • Everyone says that, but I have yet to be pointed to any official documentation...just other atheist websites that also claim "Federal Bureau of Prison Statistics."

    Is there a specific report name this came from? A year it was issued? I've been all over the government's official statistic site & I cannot find ANY publicly reported numbers on prisoner religions, much less these numbers.

    Sad day with supposedly rational atheists thumbs down merely for asking for proof for a claim. Sad day indeed.

  • You may have gotten thumbs down because there is a slide in the video with the numbers I was using. It was a 1997 Federal Bureau of Prisons statistic. Try a google search for Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics by religion.

  • I've done just that.

    Near as I can find, these numbers were released by Denise Golumbaski, who claimed (and may be) a Research Analyst for the Federal Bureau of Prisons on March 5, 1997. She sent them direct to Rod Swift at HolySmoke(dot)org.

    But she also just sent an e-mail & I can find NO official documentation to validate or back-up her claim. I've been all over the OFFICIAL justice stats. websites and the ONLY religious statistics they present are for hate crimes and discrimination cases.

  • I guess if you can't find them they don't exist then.

  • You're right to ask for the source. My search has told me so far that the sources are actually quite questionable. They would not be used in scholarly circumstances.

    However note that there has not been any report or statistics that refutes the actual claim until now.

    Nonetheless the argument should not be used in a proper debate.

  • @NekoMouser I was unable to find a first hand information on that matter however I found a response to a freedom of information act request to the Federal Bureau of Prisons dating 2010, that supports the statistics, which , however, is again second hand information. BUT you can do the same request yourself and post the actual numbers then we'll see if they match!

  • very nice vid my friend.

  • This is now featured on Think Atheist! Keep up the great work!

  • 3:50

    The term is Circular Logic btw

    Great points made!!

    Honestly, Atheistic nations (China) last longer, have lower crime rates, and bail countries like good ol' US out when we have hardships. GOOD OL' CHINA COMIN' TAH SAVE THA DAY!!

  • or scandinavia... the scandinavian countries are pretty atheistic and they're doing pretty well...

  • Not true. Kowloon was about as crime ridden as LA back in the day.

  • I bet that if an atheist ran in 08 he surely would've won. we've tried to be so unbiased to everyone that we've indeed tipped over the scales and had those who are presented as 'minorities' now held up as the majority had been. Simple, look in your scholarship application book, how many scholarships are out there for 'African Americans' and mothers, compare that to working class white males, I have found only about 10 in the whole book so far the last one being the Warren Fencl Scholarship.

  • (BTW. I say 'African American' Because I do not believe that the majority of black people living here in the USA were born in Africa, or were their parents. yes there are some, but i do not consider myself a german american or him an english american, or her a french american, we are all americans, we need to stop the diversity, diversity is not unity and this is the United States of America.

    It just makes sence.

  • Smart comment, I agree. We are all descendants of Europe, are we European American? No, just American.

    We still have a lot of issues to work out in this country regarding minorities, atheism included. People don't understand it so they reject it as something evil or bad.

    Let science be taught in schools, religion in churches and allow everyone the freedom to learn and discover beliefs on their own.

  • great comment, I have been saying that for years. I just call them black Americans.

  • Excellent, succinct and true. Favorited and subsribed!

  • Gah..I live in one of those states that prohibit me from running for office. How I weep at the obvious discrimination.

  • I'm shocked to find out about these laws. They remind me of times when slavery was accepted, and women were not allowed to vote.

  • Well, I could probably run based on a 1961 precedent, even if it is still technically illegal.

  • I agree with you that that is completely biased, land of the free? not quite.

    I wouldn't go as far as to say it reached the edges of slavery or how women weren't allowed to vote, (slavery being a little more intense i suppose, and well you still have more rights than women did at the time), but none the less this discrimination is disgusting.

  • (This coming from a firm Christian girl with a non-biased background [aka parents, Chirstian as they were, didn't instill church, I chose it for myself])

  • Ah, the ancient timeless truth: everyone wants to have some Irish in them. Even if it's securely wrapped in the filthy, stinky guts of a dead sheep.

  • True about the whole Tom Selleck thing... I can't grow a 'stache worth a crap. He's definitely my facial hair higher power.

  • To true! There are very few modern moustachionados. Eddie Murphy is another, and Sean Connery. And the new kid on the block is Luke Wilson in The Darjeeling Ltd. Add to that Gary Oldman in The Dark knight.

    Great Video. Well measured and humourous.

  • Quite interesting.

    kimbo Slice is easily more powerful than me. For those of you who don't know who he is, well...he eats Tyson ears for breakfast.

  • Were you joking? For the millionth time; OBAMA IS NOT MUSLIM! He has gone to a Christian church for DECADES.  Where do you think the controversy over REVEREND WRIGHT came from?? Muslims don't have REVERENDS. Sheesh.

  • Don't you get wikipedia on your computer? He's not a Muslim. He's much worse than that - he's a politician.

  • true true

  • Great again. Especially the last minute or two. which could have been a five-star video on its own.

    Thanks for these.

  • "Tom Selleck can grow a mustache better than me"

    LOLLL!!!!

    Hilarious.

  • A very well worded and level headed treatise, favorited and subscribed! I hope this opens a few eyes.

  • Let's hope...btw, I love your name. LOL

  • great stuff. 5 stars

  • 5 stars

  • Great vid.

  • Great video. 5 stars !

  • Alas Atheist groups cannot fight against the Christian Reich in America out of fear of reprisal. In America Christians are well know for preaching how peaceful and accepting they are, while at the same time condemning and often attacking verbally and physically anyone that disagrees with their beliefs. Look up a video call "Wife Swap: God Warrior" and you will learn exactly what kind of people American Christians are.

  • Age 3: I realized that the Easter Bunny was made up and confronted my mother asking "Why did you lie to me?", and she tried to convince me that the he was real. It bothered me that she had lied to me about something like that.

    Age 4: I figured out that Santa Claus was fake, as well. I challenged my mother on the issue, again asking why she had lied to me. I got an answer to this effect: "It wasn't a lie, it's just fun for kids to believe".

  • Age 7: I deduced that this 'god' character must also be fake. I concluded that churches were like baseball fields or movie theaters- just entertainment for grownups.

    My friends and I enjoyed pretending to be superheroes and such, adults must like to play pretend too, right?

    Age 10:  I first spoke of my idea. By this time I was thoroughly immune to all stupidity virii. Oddly, adults still 'believed'.

    I assumed(correctly) that someone had forgotten to tell them it was make believe.

  • I suspect the cold war propaganda slogan 'godless commies' has something to do with the how atheists are viewed in the US.

  • No, my comment was a response to some retard. The video is great.

  • subscribed

    only one side note, scripting your videos would greatly increase their quality

  • You didn't actually subscribe, but thanks for the suggestion.

  • kay i clicked it again

    bizzare

  • very, very nicely done. i like the point that rational people can accept new information and therefore be free to amend their opinions and actions.

  • Great point about the 8 states! And I love the blue balls!

  • atheism is a threat to their entire worldview. I really don't think they're capable of understanding atheism. (and I say this as an ex-christian) So it makes them nervous.

  • "I really don't think they're capable of understanding atheism.", there really isn't much to understand. Everyone starts out an atheist. You are either convinced by emotional blackmail and shockingly bad fiction or you are not.

  • When you're born into a religious family, there's not much chance that you won't be successfully indoctrinated. and once you accept the "emotional blackmail", Faith is the main requirement, and doubt is evil. So even asking yourself questions is something to fight against.

  • Wow, after watching this video I will be sure to look into your other videos. I agree 100% with pretty much everything you said.

  • well thought out - great points!

  • good video man, i was surprised you didn't go into the atheism and communism argument that some theists like to use. Perhaps for another day ey.

  • Yea, that does need to be addressed, doesn't it?

  • As ever, 5.

    If America was a single mind, Lady Liberty, the fact that it is actually illegal to be an atheist and stand for office in even one of her states would (or should) be embarrassing. How on Earth did they get THAT law around the constitution? Are States free to pass laws that contradict the constitution?

  • Thanks, Phil. Good to see you on the tubes, even if it isn't in video form. : )

  • To answer your questions, I don't know. It doesn't sound right to me either.

    These are apparently old laws that were never removed from the books.

  • It used to be that states could do as they pleased, the US constitution only protecting people from federal oppression. Most of these ridiculous laws and state constitution clauses date from that period.

    But after the civil war, the Reconstruction Amendments were passed. One of these, the 14th amendment, arguably includes a principle called incorporation which applies bill of rights guarantees to the states.

    Now anti-atheist laws and clauses would be ruled unconstitutional if taken to court.

  • What the shit?

  • to procommenter

    100% violent crimes are from ppl who act atheisticly? Then god acted atheisticly in bible?(by killing lots of children) What about stone all who work on sabbath? Or kill all who drink alchohol? and so on, and on, bible is one filthy book, So shut your vile lie christian shit deep to yourself!!

  • procommenter ==> Be quiet, adults are talking.

    Blocked.

  • Typical Christian response, anyone that disagrees with your dogma is ignorant. Meanwhile you will beat an atheist with the cross while calling them heathen, godless, and a dozen other names, but if they dare try to fight back you accuse them of not showing you respect.

    Ignorance: Making people feel undeservedly rightous for over 2000 years.

  • My comment was a response to some other guy. I am an atheist too.

  • Excellent, as always. Keep making more videos - it's important that more people watch things like this.

  • Thanks for the encouragement, Nick.

  • Fantastic video, Paul. You always hit the nail on the head.

    The 'least trusted' statistic was the first thing I heard about attitudes towards atheism in the US. I was stunned. You pick apart the ideas behind it extremely eloquently.

  • I appreciate it, Doug!

  • great video!

  • Excellent video.

  • excellent.

    thank you!

  • Damn dude, you never cease to impress. This video was very eloquently delivered and really conveyed your position well. Well done brother.

  • Thanks, Matt.

  • GREAT Vid!!!

  • Just friggin awesome.

  • Amazing that you can have something on the statute books that requires someone to have a religious belief in order to hold office.

  • Excellent video.

    The godless atheist label comes from the "red scare" of McCarthyism when communists were labeled evil and godless. If anyone suggested they were atheists they were labeled as communists and enemies of America.

  • Great vid! Thanks for posting it.

    Around 30% of the adult population of my country said in the last census that they have no religion. (5% didn't know/wouldn't say). It's higher for people under 50.

    I'm just beginning to appreciate the difference it makes to public life!

  • Rub it in, why don't ya. ; )

  • Very well done.