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  • The physics prove that it was just those planes. Do the research, you deluded liar, and you will see. The NIST report explains everything for anyone intelligent enough to read. Go sell crazy somewhere else. The fact are without dispute. Except by your deluded conspiracy theorists.

  • I can do simple math because I am not a deluded conspiracy theorist. The genuine evidence, using sound engineering principles, support only that conclusion. What kind of idiot do you have to be to see an airliner full of fuel hit each of the Towers, causing massive structural damage and fires burning unquenched for hours, and then to say we the majority of Americans are naive for believing what was obviously inevitable? Your kind of idiot, obviously.

  • The damage and carnage of 911 was caused by nineteen Islamist terrorists on four jet airliners. Period. This video, this line of reasoning is about their motivation.

  • @oriolesfan61 Sure....and two planes brought down three buildings...You can't even do simple math, so your simple mind cannot handle the difficult truth. Go back to school, and this time pay the fuck attention in PHYSICS class!

  • Of course the islamists used US support of Israel as an EXCUSE. But if you examine Osama's rhetoric as he rose in influence he first used the presence of US forces in the Muslim holy lands to inflame passions. Later he added the US support for Israel.

  • Mossad, cia, fbi, air farce = partners in crime.

  • truthers ask questions. just like JFK, we will never really "know" the truth. the gov. "let" it happen so we could making trillions from war or to protect the pipeline. When Bush announced he was going to get Sadam, was when I started thinking this just isn;t right.

  • @troutmask1970 truthers ask questions and never recognize an answer when they see it. They waste valuable mental resources and time on fairy tales instead of reality.

    Assholes like Dick Cheney love you guys!

  • @911sausageman so what is this reality that you speak of? Basically, what are you getting at? What is your point? Its obvious you don't have one. You probably believe that Oswald acted alone. 

  • @troutmask1970 well, for one thing: al -Qaeda is a very real organization and threatens the US for very real reasons. why don't you spend some time reading Michael Scheuer instead of listening to Alex Jones all the time?

    And yes, Oswald did act alone. "JFK" warped your brain just like "loose change". Quit wasting your time.

  • @911sausageman So your telling me that middle eastern people that live in caves "flew" planes into WTC? We're safe because Bush your daddy protected us from them mean ole terrorists? The Boogie Men? Al Qaeda Alex Jones can say some stupid things sometimes but he a couple of good points I guess. Sorry I'm not underground enough for you. I hope you and Elizabeth Hasselback enjoy your little tea party together.

  • @troutmask1970 No, I'm telling you that highly educated radical Muslims flew the planes into the towers. Are you AJ's parrot? "live in caves"! What a laugh. You know nothing. I don't see that situation improving!

  • I love Chomsky, but there is more wrong with the world than just a backlash from the Islamic world against our oppressive policies. There is a CIA that funds covert wars through drug sales. There is a CIA that engineers wars to make the planet safer for Israeli terrorism. And there was nano-thermite in the WTC dust. Elements of both Israel and American government, and possibly MI-6 were knee deep in 9/11, basically because the goals of empire and zionism currently match.

  • i thing what were all trying to say is that george bush is a duche bag

  • the iraq was a reason for 9 11

  • TRUE FACT is... CIA wants to drive your attention for what is really goin on... This is not a simple game! Cia IS the real threat to america, generatin chaos and spreeding hate throught the world only to sell GUNS. They killed clinton to keep selling weapons on the vietnam CONFLICT.

    Fuck Bush

    Fuck CIA

    Americans go home.

  • @representativepress... what are you talking about man??? how is the truth movement misdirecting anything? israel is just one part of the puzzle... truth movement wants to get bush first... bush and his cronies planned 911 from the start, orchestrated it all along, and made sure to destroy and suppress any evidence of their involvement... this massive undertaking can only be state sponsored... that state is ISRAEL!!!

  • @representativepress Could u help me out ?!? Im really confused with this thing!! If "an inward bowing of the building facade" was a warning sign of the collapse, they wouldnt fall at nearly free fall speed!! Or would they?? There are fireman saying they heard explosions! How do u explain that ? I dont know of anybody who are more anti-government than Jesse Ventura and Alex jones( "the leaders of the truth movement" )!! How can u suggest tha the truth movement, is a propaganda tool?

  • The problem is, 9/11 is used by many parties for their own interests. And Bush was the first, used this date to justify 2 wars, guantanamo bay, cuttin the civil rights. In the USA there was a nearly fascist wave, makin way free for gov to do nearly anything.

    I think at least, the government knew what was goin to happen, lettin it be. Because dozens of facts are speakin to this, i could list you a hundred i think. And if not, why the big cover up, which is even reported by 9/11 comissioners?

  • You say in your video, Bush lied about the reasons for the attack - please, what did he say exactly?

    is there any else possible reason for an attack, than foreign policy? that's what's in everyones mind first, anyway -- so where's the big secret secret here? What to hide or lie about?

    Do i need to quote the CIA to un-cover this fact??

    Maybe i missed something, so please tell me.

  • if we're not talking about the Rothschild dynasty, we're not talking about the root of the matter.

    google: "The Secret of Oz"

  • Well this is total disinformation the truth movement didn't suppress anything and the truth movement in many ways is not one solidified body, it's just the combined total of all who have something, anything to say about the lies perpetrated on 9/11. In fact many parts of the so called truth movement did on fact deal with the bush aspect of 9/11, and all his lies.

  • THE TRUE NORTH AMERICANS DESERVE RESPECT... UNFORTUNATELY ARE REDUCED THE SAME CONDITION OF THE OTHER SUBJUGATED SOCIETY... THEY ARE UNDER THE YOKE OF THE GLOBAL ELITE AND HIS LACKEYS...LIONS AND HYENAS COMPOSED BY ANOTHER PORTION OF NORTH AMERICAN POPULATION... ALL CONTROL STATIONS IN NORTH AMERICAN SOCIETY ARE OCCUPIED BY ELEMENTS THIS ELITE... WHO WILL SAVE THE NORTH AMERICAN PEOPLE ?? SUPER MAN ??

  • @WawsestilL Hey. id settle for aqua man.

  • keep censoring. The media is the front line! Question! U may not find the mainstream american media TO BE BIAS IN ANYWAY but as a fact they are constantly putting themselves up in front of the firing line. It just takes a few to shoot them down. attack is the best form of defence! Hard I know more than others. The British State is a hard one. One where you learn your lessons and have to stay in your place. I pittty the Scots and the English.

  • @cjmastablasta Im scottish and I pity the Americans, the evil going on behind the scenes over there, im glad i dont live there, because its only a matter of time before another false flag attack.

  • The sooner the state of america stops behaving in a way that supposedly allows it to trample over soverighn countries the better. It always ends up in a bad situation be it war or fammine! The two are mostly intertwined. We now know for a fact that the US lied and decieved the american public over the veitnam war efforts at the loss of many american lives and should be of no surprise that they would hit their own people to further their cause. Respect! not war! the brittish state must die

  • representativepress, I was once subscribed to you because you unveil the evilness of Israel, but than you made a video saying 911 is not an inside job, I unsubscribed because there is overwhelming evidence it is an inside job. You should watch Aaron Russo, he explains how everything was planned before.

  • @Thaer35

    There's no evidence for the 911 "truth" cult's inside job delusions; there's only a lot of embellishment of facts and imaginative speculations.

  • @adkinsjr ...wake up dude,,,,,research it PLEASE bud..dont be missled like i was ONCE!! .. Peace bro

  • Bush is a liar just like all the recent presidents including our current one. I wont give names cause it dont matter who it is. America gets decieved everytime to vote for who "they" want. I think Ron Paul might actually be legit but who knows.

  • american revolution!!!! lets kill washing ton!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • It has nothing to do with iraq it was a bunch of pissed off eqyptions and saudi arabians who agreed to blow up the wtc all lead by a saudi arabian guy named osama bin laden aka little pussy hiding somwere in afganastan

  • Wait a minute.

    9/11 truth suppresses the fact that Bush is a liar?

    Wheww. Breathtaking stupidity. This guy's perception of the world is so inaccurate, so twisted I'm amost speechless here...

  • I think it was meant as a statement of irony.

  • what has Iraq to do with 9-11?

  • I think that suggesting that changing our policy on Israel will change the perception of the middle easterner of the United States is as naive as saying that China will stop seeking to destroy the United States if we allow them to take over the free Republic of Taiwan.

    Are you not then also ensuring that the United States has to go into Israel later to take it back after their enemies invade them? Or are you suggesting they won't invade if the US removes critical military and economic support?

  • What I'm saying is it's none of our damn business because it's not our damn country.

    And changing our policy on Israel is just ONE of the many things we should have done to change the Middle Easterners perspective about the U.S. but frankly with this whole Afghanistan/Iraq War thing we pretty much cemented their hatred of us.

    They don't like us because we shit in their backyard. Face it.

  • @n0s1r i agree totally with what you have said. we basically shited in their backyard, that's why they hate us! Now...you are going to hate me too because im going to shit on your face!! YOU LOSER!

  • And as for your comment about China wanting to destroy the U.S. all I'm going to say is turn off your fucking T.V. and read a book.

    If America goes to hell in a hand-basket then who the fuck do you think is going to buy all that cheap unreliable plastic CRAP the Chinese make? Europe sure as hell ain't buying that shit. Wake the fuck up.

  • isreal is occupied palestinian territory, how can they "invade" it?

  • Not all truthers ignore this fact.There is some evidence that Israel not only knew about the attacks ahead of time but that they actually helped plan the event.Israeli agents were arrested on 9-11.Witnesses saw them jumping for joy as the buildings came down.New excuses for human rights violations and WARS.Truthers actually shine light on the abuses of all Governments.See Architects and engineers for 9-11 truth.We need to all be on the same page here,no more in fighting.

  • @deathhamster22 You are all so blinded, it wasn't our government or the Israelis, crab people caused 9/11. You see, the crab people knew that America would become prosperous so they knew, to bankrupt america, you need to get them into a war they can't afford. The the Crab people worked in the world trade center and hid explosives in the top floors, then they payed Muslim extreemists to highjack planes and fly them into the building. There were actually eyed witnesses who saw these crab people.

  • @deathhamster22 I see no facts in your statement there is a fact no one can disclaim there were thousands of Innocent people murder and all for what end.Because someone of power use them! the attack has made Muslim weaker and less important to the World And they see them as the aggressor towards Israel and every other nation

  • OMG. people that think 9/11 happened are stupid. i live in carolina and i can assure you that 9/11 never happened. all three towers are still there. 9/11 was a ghey conspiracy by bush so that he could invade iraq and force them to supply wal mart with cheaper products every day. i know this. bush told me. im his dad.

  • haha good one. im suprised no one has taken you seriously yet. i said something like that once as a joke and got response like "what do you mean the buildings are still there? go to NY and see for yourself you fucktard!" some people are so paranoid.

  • I know this. Your mamma told me. Im a good fuck

    thumbs down ahole

  • well, considering other theories faggots have posted, this one doesnt seem to be that far-fetched

  • I can't speak for people as a whole, but I've realized that Alex is probably one of the biggest fear monger out there atm. Every time he speaks, he's just trying to cause hystaria.

  • ha ha ha, JewTube has tampered with the ratings

    to make this video look popular, ha ha ha ha,

    this video is pure low IQ disinfo propaganda, Bolchivic Chit!

    We all know 911 was inside job, completely planned!

  • lol, jewtube!

  • Except that the evidence is so weak in the cases of 9/11, Bilderberg, FEMA death camps, etc. There is literally ZERO peer reviewed evidence.

    Whereas many of our governments & their agencies' real atrocities have not only been proven beyond a shadow of doubt with vast amounts of documentary evidence, but also backed up with acknowledgments from declassified records.

    All covert operations leave trails & most end up being accidentally exposed by leaks & admissions.

  • Are you asking me if I believe that our governments are using Chemtrails & Fluoride to poison us, the masons & the bilderbergs are secretly in control of the world & about to kill us all in FEMA camps & George Bush snr is a Lizard?

  • "you can't even fucking spell the entire sentance without fucking up"

    You can't expect much from these Truther mutts. Most barely got through high school, and damn sure never took Physics or Chemistry.

    Look how they swallow this thermite-thermate bullshit whole, when so far Jones & his crackpot cronies can't even demonstrate thermite cutting vertical structural steel. If these fucks can't MAKE it happen after yearrs of trying, it ain't likely that it happened on 9-11.

  • I wonder how much these shills are getting paid for covering up 9/11. They believe office fire brought down those towers and building 7. Judging from them running amok, the job must be fairly lucrative or their bank account balance must be running pretty low.

  • "They believe office fire brought down those towers and building 7"

    Office Fire?

    I thought Boeings laden with fuel hit each of the twin towers & debris from one of the twin towers collapsing hit WTC7.

    You have evidence that it was merely an office fire?

    You going with the CGI theory then?

  • 911 was done by the pentagon to prep us for the NWO. Bush sr. gave his NWO speech on 9/11/1900. The train bombings in spain were 911 days after 911. NWO by 2012 it cant be stopped so watch it happen.

  • "Bush sr. gave his NWO speech on 9/11/1900"

    Nice trick, considering he wasn't born yet.

    Typical Truther math.

  • Sounds like a shill to me. Maybe he doesn't understand it all goes deeper than the Jews.

  • War crimes?

    Jesus Christ... save us from you Alex Clones.

    First of all, you're saying you're going to charge a journalist for war crimes..

    Yet you can't even fucking spell the entire sentance without fucking up

  • I don't know who would believe the stupid statement by Bush that they attacked us because of our freedom.. anyone with any sense knows it was because of the US policy and actions around Israel and the Islamic states..it's not like the US government hasn't caused death and destruction in the middle east for decades with little regard for the people in the region..but then people voted for Bush two times so they have to be stupid enough to believe anything

  • If people believe god, people can believe anything

  • i agree with you 100%

  • Thank You ! The Truth shall set us free ! A is for ALLAH !! I was to be Catholic but I cant Pray for Israel only Plaestine ...You would have to be a NUT to Pray for Israel !

  • Bush isn't just lying about what happened,

    He and his secret society shit were in on it.

    The truth movement in no way tries to protect them you

    phucking little Khazaroach! You greatest fear is that the truth movement will expose you and your filthy disgusting organization, (including Bush and Clinton and Obama) as directly behind the 911 attacks in what is called "False Flag" Your little scuzzybrew tricks dont work.

  • PhuqueU is a fucking moron.

    He doen't realize that for every person you add to a conspiracy the odds it will fail or be betrayed goes up exponentially.

    So PhuqueU...........how many people were involved in 911?

    10? 1,000? 100,000? or 300,000,000?

    And no one refused to join. And no one has spoken out.

    ROFL!

  • You and all of your filthy family in an act of war, sworn to secracy, were involved. since that involves the media we can ascern who your filthy family is. any more Questions? As sure as the Lord lives, you are a disgrace to him.

    Google: "Bush To Veto Ban On Mercury In Vaccines"

    Then ask if Obama will reverse it.

    Multi-national secret society of murderers.

  • Looks to me that PhuqueU refuses to join and is speaking out. Although I don't believe much of what he has to say he still has just as much right to say what he wants as you do. Problem "debunkers" and "conspiracy theorists" seem to have is too much opinion, lies, insults and not enough (if any) evidence to support either claim. This is why in our free and open society we should have nothing less than full disclosure from our government yet instead it withholds and surpesses from the people.

  • LONG LIVE THE NEW WOOKIE ORDER!

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  • definatly an inside job

  • smartass, why there was no insurance payments for the4highjacked planes?

    now go debunk the nanothermite.

  • Jones's nanothermite bullshit is already falling apart

  • You phucking Khazaroach! The Turth Movement has been calling Bush and Clinton "liars" sionce day one! People watch the truth here... Watch Youtube: WTC No Plane Theory (Part 3) WTC No Plane Theory (Part 4) WTC No Plane Theory (Part 5) The planes were photoshopped into footage, to cover over a winged missile. Planes don't ghost walk through steal walls. Bombs in Lobby! Youtube: "9/11: WTC witness Joe Torres" Youtube: "9/11 Eyewitness to Twin Towers Basement Explosion?"
  • THE STEP BY STEP HOW TO BE A 911 TWOOFER GUIDE:

    1) Put a picture of Dr. Steven Jones on your nightstand. Dr. Steven Jones is GOD!

    2) Educate yourself by watching ONLY Loose Change & Zeitgeist.

    3) Troll through youtube typing INSIDE JOB on every 911 video.

    4) Stand on the street corner yelling "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB", but refuse to explain HOW, WHO, and WHY.

    5) Call anyone who challenges your theories sheep.

    6) NEVER ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG. EVEN IF THE PEN IS BLUE, INSIST IT'S RED!

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  • you're an idiot.

    stupid bull shit like the bullshit you just said is what makes people quickly dismiss the idea that the govt was behind 9/11.

    learn how to spell.

  • Not sure what happened on 9/11???

    This simple video explains the EVIDENCE /watch?v=klat9sGGwVU

  • 9/11 was an inside job. It was a pretext for a "war on terror". The 9/11 truth movement focusses on this fact rather than on the media's and politicians' misrepresentations of why Islamic radicals hate the US because the very nature of 9/11 is a fact greater lie.

  • rite-o, OutOfTheDickThinker. i knew 911 was an inside job when i started having explosions in my pants. that told me explosions brawt down the towers. what more does anyone need?

  • OUTSIDE JOB!

  • INSIDE JOB!

  • 3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:

    Larry Silverstein said "pull it", demolishing WTC 7 and collecting millions in insurance. Why would the insurance company pay the claim when there's evidence of fraud?

    If WTC 1 & 2 were destroyed by demolition & NOT damaged by fire, how do you explain video of the exterior columns buckling under heat and stress loads?

    Why doesnt Steven Jones say HOW he obtained the WTC dust samples and WHERE they were stored for the past 7.5 years?

  • you dont even have to look at any evidence from the 9/11 to realise 9/11 gave unlimited freedom to the us goverment. are you happy with the anti terror laws? are you happy that essentially obama has the right to declare martial law for any event he deems appropriate? are you aware why the war was supposed to be fought for? have you heard about the so called economic hitmen that couldnt corrupt sadam hussein? you can try to debunk everything but in the end, you're going to be their slave...

  • are you happy your congress holds meetings in SECRET? are you happy no mass destruction weapons were found? why doesnt the us attack north korea? maybe because they really do have wmds... there are so many things the us population has put up with since 9/11. have u got any idea how many people die from cancer each year? have you got any idea how many us citizens would have been saved from illness if the money went to improve healthcare rather than to the war? i hope there is god to save us.

  • Rock-a-by baby on the tree top, when the wind blows the cradle will rock, you're too smooth man, takes one to know one. Why did the towers have to come down? Should we ask Mr. Silversleim? Or perhaps if we go fishing in that famous Egyptian waterway de Nial we'll catch something. Peace, love and freedom

  • I'd be the1st to admit that Muslims have been treated badly by the Bushes and Clinton and that's a motive for the 9/11 attacks. But facts are not there. No proof that they did it. There's lots of proof that there were explosions and a stand down by US forces. If nothing else the cover up afterward indicates Cheney's guilt.

    If it were Arabs, they were smart. Why did they not see that this would not work out well for them? It was the neocons, the ones who benefitted.

  • neomp5 would like "us" to naively believed that Bush is a pillar of evil, as if Obama was any better! Bush definitely is definitely an important pawn in our self-appointed Masters' game: he was, after all, the marketer-in-chief of the phony war on terror. But 9/11 and the massive corruption it is a symptom of go much higher than Bush or Obama.

    Love,

  • here it comes. which is it this time, the illuminati or the aliens?

  • neomp5 may have asked his first intelligent question, almost as profound as -and certainly more pressing than- his atheistic quest: who are the people who placed the order for 9/11, financed it, organized it, covered it up, and told Bush how to do his marketing job?

    This question, in the absence of a criminal investigation, is still open.

  • if you were open to questions, we would be having a very different discussion. the problem here is that you are too certain of your position. that's called faith. when you have faith, the issue of whether what you believe is true or not becomes unimportant, facts become irrelevant, even downright irritating.

  • Facts, irritating? As much as neomp5 tries to ignore the mainstream media's hype on the WTC liquid steel, it did happen.

    Of course, an easy way out is that since the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST reports ignore the above, it did not really happen.

    If only people had no VCRs...

    Love,

  • neomp5 is working overtime. Tallying his contributions, his difficulty to articulate a coherent argument is obvious. But if we tally the truth-seeking arguments, we find cohesion, reason, and science.

    I guess that neomp5 is a liberal or left-wing gatekeeper; he is part of the Obamist/Democrat/foreign movement that looks for all sorts of crimes committed by Bush & co, while making every effort to ignore 9/11...another weapon of mass distraction.

    Love,

  • why do you talk as though you have an audience? nobody's listening to you. which is itself your purpose, by pretending to oppose bush and convincing people to ignore you, you hope to convince them to ignore those of us who actually do oppose bush. you're a part of the republican strategy, you support them.

  • you're so busy playing spy that you haven't noticed that your government has changed. grow up.

  • and with statements like these, the purpose of the truthiness movement becomes clear. you serve to attack the truth from a second front. you dress up like left wingers and make statements that dissagree with the facts, fooling some left wingers into dissagreeing with the facts, making all left wingers look wrong, driving people to the right.

  • why can't you see the obvious flaw in that argument? if they arranged the attack to blame hussein, THEY WOULD HAVE BLAMED HUSSEIN!

  • if Bush didn't do the 911 i will brake my Laptop:)

  • this is exactly what i've been saying. the "truth movement" only focuses on imaginary crimes, taking attention away from real crimes, and causes people to disregard anyone who talks about real crimes.

  • bush has a 2 inch cock! but balls of greaaaat lies..

  • What is the point of this video? Demonstrating that Bush is a professional liar? Thank you.

    Now what disservice could the 9/11 truth movement do? If anything, it sheds some light onto a central point of this clip: "why we were attacked." "We the gullible people of the USA" were attacked with shock and awe because our self-appointed Masters wanted to send us to their phony war on terror.

    Afghanistan + Patriot Act + Iraq + threats on Iran/Pakistan = mission accomplished!

    Love,

  • Bush did it, and here's how it went down.

    Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!". If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.

    Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died and the GOP replaced him with a robot clone. For real.

    That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.

  • spam shill alert!

  • AE911 is just as believable as Newton's calculus theory or Darwin's evolution theory. It is straightforward and indisputably the best, simplest and most logical explanation for the triple WTC demolition.

    Governments, media and liberal leaders worldwide have carried the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. Who would make us believe that judges (hybrids between attorneys and politicians) and academics (who spend half their time chasing government grants) would be less corrupt?

    Love,

  • So you're going to tell me the Bush NWO govt. could commit and cover up up 911 but couldn't even keep it secret that they leaked a CIA agent's identity?

    You've seen JFK one too many times.

  • the bush administration wanted to bring down saddam hussein from the day they got into office, this we know

    let's assume for the sake of argument that they then planned and executed an overly elaborate plot to fake an attack using airplanes, involving thousands of real deaths and buildings being brought down with explosives for no reason.

    it follows from the above statements that they would instantly point the finger at saddam hussein alone, and all forged intelligence would agree.

  • neomp5 has a point. It is just one of the many mysteries of 9/11.

    One element of answer may be that the Taliban had to be eliminated because they were too greedy to let a Unocal pipeline go through their territory and they had shut down opium production.

    8 years after the U.S. invasion, both problems have been solved.

    Love,

  • there's no mystery about it. they had no problem with the taliban, but they had to go after al-qaeda for one simple reason: they were responsible for the attack. al-qaeda arranged the attack, so the bush government had no choice but to go after them, and then try to stretch the reasoning to make some implied connection with hussein that would not have held if the american population had been educated.

  • Al-Qaeda, responsible for what attack? Certainly not 9/11! Ashcroft had no qualms about arbitrarily detaining more than 1,000 U.S. Muslims, but failed to even indict any AQ member in connection with 9/11.

    Besides, even mainstream media reported that the Taliban offered to extradite Osama bin Laden if and when the U.S. government would provide them with proof of his involvement in 9/11 and that the U.S. government denounced this offer as a delaying tactic.

    Love,

  • How can Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth be taken seriously when they "search for the truth" while simultaneously filling their pocket books through their online store?

    Why are there NO professional/academic peer reviewed journals or papers substantiating 911 truther theories?

    In a world (and nation) of Bush haters, why has no one taken your absolute proof" to the courts to convict the guilty conspirators?

  • AE 9/11, not serious? We are still waiting for any meaningful response to their slide show that establishes conclusively that the 3 WTC skyscrapers were professionally demolished.

    Why don't academics review their findings rather than burying their heads in the sand? Very good question. Why are politicians and journalists of all stripes afraid of 9/11 truth?

    9/11 raises many simple common-sense questions; alas, answers have not been forthcoming.

    Love,

  • yes, they were responsible for the airplane hijackings and the use of said airplanes as weapons. your inept government dismissed the warnings they received about it, and then had to mount a response purely as a PR move, which obviously could not include a trial and extradition. they had to demonise their attackers to cover their incompotence, and there's nothing like a bombing campaign to get americans to stop thinking.

    only after all that did they try to get iraq involved.

  • Al Qaeda, responsible for airplane hijacks? Then why wouldn't Ashcroft file criminal indictments against them?

    By the way, why didn't the NTSB perform any investigation into these hijacks & crashes?

    9/11 is filled with very unusual yet unexplained behaviors by the U.S. government.

    Love,

  • if you actually do some research, you'll find bin laden was already indicted for the embassy bombings 3 years earlier.

    you keep demanding that they go above and beyond standard procedure to investigate this attack, as if there was some vast mystery or unanswered question about it. there's not. the fictions created by the loose changers are easily refutable and not worthy of the thorough refutation they've received.

    there is no mystery here, no matter how much you might want there to be one

  • Oh, my...neomp5 correctly points out that the U.S. government has OBL indicted for several serious crimes. What these all have in common is that 9/11 dwarfs them, yet we are still waiting for criminal charges to be pressed against him in relations to 9/11. So it is hard to not see something paradoxical her.

    LC, debunked? We are still waiting for that too. Tellingly, the U.S. government has refused to debate even the LC kids, without an explanation.

    Love,

  • the US government doesn't need to debate anyone. they aren't trying to push any view of how things went down. they're trying to push a view of WHY it happened, with all that "they hate our freedom" bullshit. your movement covers up the fact that people in american intelligence agencies have themselves called it bullshit. you were attacked for supporting isreal.

    there was no need to indict bin laden on the 9/11 charge, you're operating from a misunderstanding of law.

  • i must once again request that you do some research. the people who create these fictions are shameless liars, so i shouldn't have to explain why taking their words on faith is not a good idea. these people quote-mine statements to make them say the opposite of what they meant, they dub sound effects into videos, they adjust calculations. you should, as with all things, and especially as with all people who claim absolute certainty, approach with skepticism.

  • neomp5: "the people who create these fictions are shameless liars"; who are they? if this is about the authors of the official 9/11 fairy tale, their sycophants, and their right-wing & left-wing faithkeepers, I'll agree with that!

    Love,

  • i'm talking about the liars who you believe on faith. the people who changed the context of comission testimony about "the order" still standing to imply it was about a stand-down order, when the question, which they edit out, was about a shoot-down order, the exact opposite of a stand-down order.

  • neomp5 now lectures us on faith.

    The official 9/11 fairy tale, if anything, is a huge test of faith. From start to finish, virtually each major detail does not make any sense, culminating with the incredible and unsubstantiated affirmation that the 3 WTC towers disintegrated in concrete dust, liquid steel, and ready-to-ship beam cuts as an indirect consequence of the impact of 2 airliners.

    Love,

  • well sure, if you're going to change the facts of the situation, of course it's not going to make sense. if you're going to claim that there was liquid steel at the site, of course the collapse wouldn't explain that. of course, demolition wouldn't either. but since there was no molten steel at the site, it's not an issue, is it? if you actually look into the reality instead of putting your faith in a band of liars, things will make a lot more sense.

  • neomp5 is now criticizing "you" for "changing the facts of the situation," alleging the absence of molten steel at the WTC. Well, the liquid steel was a mainstream media story, including corroboration by NASA sattelite pictures. It is still all over YouTube.

    And of course, the molten steel is one-among many-clues that support the hypothesis that the 3 WTC skyscrapers were destroyed in carefully engineered demolitions.

    Love,

  • but again, it is fiction, and fiction proves nothing, because, though this may suprise you, it is not true

    there was partially molten aluminum found at the site, but the fires were not hot enough to melt steel, so naturally there was no molten steel. and a demolition would not melt the steel either, though that's hardly relevant since the collapses were not consistent with any kind of demolition, nor was demolition possible in the cases of buildings 1, 2, and 7.

  • watch?v=7YXzjAKJQOg

  • "partially molten Al found..." neomp5 espouses a classical faith-keeping tactic, on the heels of NIST. The molten steel blatantly contradicts the fire hypothesis. So what did NIST do? Ignore it. What a scientific process!

    Besides, as we all remember from high-school chemistry, liquid Al and liquid Fe exhibit very different colors, leaving no doubt, on top of NASA's records and the multiple testimonies as seen on TV, that the molten substance looked like Fe much more than Al.

    Love,

  • molten steel would contradict the fire hypothesis. but demolition wouldn't explain it either. and since there was no molten steel, it doesn't matter, you're making a fictional claim. you might as well say "the buildings were obviously demolished by explosives, the dragon flying between the towers proves that"

    you are putting faith in the words of people who will photoshop the light of a flashlight and call it molten steel. are you insane?

  • So, per neomp5, there was no need to indict OBL for 9/11. In fact, this is essentially what Blair stated when he released his infamous memo justifying the Afghan invasion, prefacing it with a statement that it was not intended to serve as a basis to charge OBL in a court of law.

    A misunderstanding of law, eh? of course, if our self-appointed Masters and their cronies in the media had enough info to persuade "us the gullible people" to go to war, why seek an indictment?

    Love,

  • they don't need to induiict someone who's already indicted for other crimes. you really should try looking into the reality of the situation instead of repeating the talking points given to you by the so-called conspiracy theorists, who are only spreading these fictions as a smokescreen tactic to distract people from the real failures and crimes of the bush administration.

  • neomp5 seems to exhibit the circular reasoning of some 9/11 liberal faith-keepers. No "need" to indict OBL for the biggest of his crimes...go explain this logic to a professional prosecutor!

    Besides, "we the gullible people" are still waiting for the U.S. government's promised proof of OBL's involvement.

    Authorizing 9/11, covering it up and marketing it into the phony war on terror is, by far, the Bush administration most serious crime.

    Love,

  • but it is FICTIONAL. do you not see that accusing someone of something fictional accomplishes nothing at all?

    there is no shortage of proof of bin laden's organisation carrying out the task, but there is no reason for them to indict him yet again just to appease you and disprove your fantasies. please develop some skeptical sense and learn to think.

  • No need to indict OBL for the biggest crime he ever committed? What a strange concept! Which prosecutor would ever concoct that?

    "No shortage of proof of OBL's organization carrying out the task?" Which task? 9/11? In this case, why didn't the U.S. government accept the Taliban's request to share their proof with them instead of launching the Afghan war? And why hasn't the U.S. government shared their "proof" with "us the people?"

    Love,

  • the "bigness" of the crime is irrelevant, he was already indicted.

    i told you, the afghan war was a PR move. stop behaving like a bleeding tape recorder and think of something new to say. i have no time for your government-approved talking points, o'reilley

  • neomp5 is starting to lose his nerves and resorting to insult rather than some sense of reasoning. Oh my...

    "The 'bigness' of a crime being irrelevant" to an indictment. The law school neomp5 graduated from has a very peculiar curriculum.

    The failure to file a single charge against OBL related to 9/11 is one more mystery of the official 9/11 fairy tale, whether neomp5 likes it or not.

    Love,

  • don't you think if they'd faked the attack, they'd have all the proof they want?

    your view of the world is incredibly childish.

  • "incredibly childish?" neomp5 has officially resorted to insult. The rest of that comment of his is hard to understand. Who could "you" and "they" be? Oh, well...

    Shall we assume that neomp5 means that if 9/11 was a U.S. job, then the U.S. government would have have offered it to "us the people" on 9/11 a fabricated proof of OBL's guilt?

    This argument makes much sense. It is one more mystery of 9/11. An easy answer is that this part of 9/11, like many others, was miserably botched.

    Love,

  • that's not an insult. you are judging the situation with a childishly simplistic view, like a theist. you're a theist, i presume?

    what a perfect example of religious "reasoning". i show you an inconsistency in your argument, a flaw in your beliefs, and you say "no, it's not inconsistent at all. it's just that bush works in mysterious ways".

  • neomp5 almost confesses to atheism; this would prove that he is capable of denying what his mind most desires if he finds that it is unbelievable; not many people have the courage to go that far.

    Who knows? As he spent agonizing days trying hard to justify Divine existence before concluding to its non-existence, maybe after agonizingly clinging to the official 9/11 fairy tale long enough, he will realize that it is buttressed by less evidence than the existence of some divinity.

    Love,

  • it's called null hypothesis. look it up.

  • Null hypothesis? Would neomp5 master elements of statistics? If he has had the determination of convincing himself of the non-existence of the Divine, would he care to identify, review and tally the errors & omissions in the 9/11 Commission Report?

    Null hypothesis: each 9/11 CR error or omission has the same probability of favoring and disfavoring the official story. Using a simple test, determine if NH is not credible.

    As a good faith-keeper, dont look for the answer of the web!

    Love,

  • you did not look it up. if you had, you'd know that null hypothesis means that i don't have to convince myself of the nonexistence of the divine, i simply need to not convince myself of the existence of the divine. unlike you,. i use the scientific method. i reach my conclusion after doing reseearch. you start with your conclusion, and then do research, admitting only things that support your foregone conclusion. this is a characteristic of the faithful mind.

  • I was hoping neomp5 would have a basic college education that would allow him to use mathematical tools to gather information out of non-certain data. But his atheism is the most basic kind, respectable, but supported by minimal reasoning. My bad...

    And of course, he does not have to think. His Masters will do that for him...

    Love,

  • The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it. The truth movement was a total bait and switch.

    Any time someone outright claims to have "THE TRUTH", it's almost certainly bullshit.

  • do something about it then....get some money n take em to an international court maybe?

  • 9/11 truth movement is not suppressing anything but using actual scientific evidence of what happened that day.People have lost loved ones and they have questions.You say it blindsides from the real issue when are policies have been so distorted for the past 20 yrs.We are to blame by letting bullshit media, outragious entertainment,and our own personal civil wars within not only democrates or republicans but even online mislead us.Now is the time we should work together towards a better future.

  • Amen bro