I'm very skeptic about such setup. Flight stabilization requires much more sophisticated PID or similar control, which is impossible to achieve with these cheap gyros alone. I'm electronic devices designer with 25 years experience, so I know very well how these things work.
I agree but I have considered doing the same thing just fr laughs, the helicommand works exactly the same way except they spent mega bucks developing PID's and small electronics, trying to come up with your own setup must be near on impossible to get just right but the crude concept is fundamentally the same, be intrested to see this thing fly huh ? and they must be heavy in comparison
does this set up works? i wanted the same thing because i cannot install other stabilization system wont work with me since I fly near buildings...I don't have an open field to play and install those with sensors
I see...I have to improvise coz I don't have that much space to fly around except an open parking lot. My hover is unstable albeit when I had my caliber 5 flown by an expert it's just a breeze..so i think nothing is wrong with my heli...there's something wrong with the way I fly it. :)
I tested the same with 2 gy240s on my bergen observer eb (26cc, 800mm blades) but the head speed was too low to provide stability. I don't think you will manage to provide good result with these gyros, cyclic variations with a flybarless heli are really microscopic and precise. Nice tried though ;)
Well done! Very interested to follow your progress. I had a similar idea, with 3 gyros, but thought it could never work as they would seem to need to "know" of each other... but your proof of concept shows that may not be true. If you pull this off you're going to change the way a lot of us build our models.
Good one Gary. This would be substantially cheaper than HeliCommand ;-) I hope it all goes well, look forward to seeing a video of this.. I think if it works, will cause quite a stir amongst the RC Heli world.
Fabulous. It should work, but in my case, since learning helis before gyros, I would probably crash it cause too stable. LOL. I cant wait to see how it works. It should be so stable, you could tie it to the ground with a cable, get it hovering, run into the house, grab a beer, and return. LOL Now that is stable. 5 stars and good luck.
me thinks testing will be somewhat of a run and hide event (c: should work fine (fingers crossed) not sure how to get it to work on a ccpm heli though. Testing over the next weekend.
Good stuff, I'm very interested to see how this flies.
I think that while it can't guarantee to bring the heli back to a stable hover it should do a good job of smoothing out some of the chop on a blustery day.
The commercial RC "autopilot" systems use and optical sensor to reference the earth's horizon to maintain a positional reference. This system uses inertial and will not correct for the inherent drift (error) .
Yeah I know but the auto pilot version will not work if there is no horizon, ie near buildings or trees etc. the helicommand system works on gyros and an optical sensor to prevent drift, I'm not taking my laser mouse apart to make one of those. (c;
nicely done bruv ;D i was following another lad on a forum who did this with his HBK2 then moved the electronics over to a belt CP, were you following the same thread? if not i will try dig out the thread for ya as matey may have some gyro setting tips for ya ;)
mmmm i like to see a video on what you have done
TheZipper380 2 years ago
I'm very skeptic about such setup. Flight stabilization requires much more sophisticated PID or similar control, which is impossible to achieve with these cheap gyros alone. I'm electronic devices designer with 25 years experience, so I know very well how these things work.
gintaras4bar 2 years ago
I agree but I have considered doing the same thing just fr laughs, the helicommand works exactly the same way except they spent mega bucks developing PID's and small electronics, trying to come up with your own setup must be near on impossible to get just right but the crude concept is fundamentally the same, be intrested to see this thing fly huh ? and they must be heavy in comparison
subarooby 2 years ago
does this set up works? i wanted the same thing because i cannot install other stabilization system wont work with me since I fly near buildings...I don't have an open field to play and install those with sensors
miozombie 2 years ago
It should work in theory though I never got around to fully setting it up in flight.
GaryGraham66 2 years ago
I see...I have to improvise coz I don't have that much space to fly around except an open parking lot. My hover is unstable albeit when I had my caliber 5 flown by an expert it's just a breeze..so i think nothing is wrong with my heli...there's something wrong with the way I fly it. :)
miozombie 2 years ago
Get a decent simulator mate it is the best way to learn, you can become too dependant on a helicommand etc and it restricts your learning.
GaryGraham66 2 years ago
this would stabilize the helicopter, not the position
rodstartube 2 years ago
this is more like a flybarless system than a helicommand. either way great job!
wrxsavvy 2 years ago 2
nice idea!!!!! 5/5
rcman450 2 years ago
GARYi thing you are a ginius!!!!
cypriotkikos 2 years ago
Hi
That's not really a helicommand ...
I tested the same with 2 gy240s on my bergen observer eb (26cc, 800mm blades) but the head speed was too low to provide stability. I don't think you will manage to provide good result with these gyros, cyclic variations with a flybarless heli are really microscopic and precise. Nice tried though ;)
simusfr 2 years ago
Well done! Very interested to follow your progress. I had a similar idea, with 3 gyros, but thought it could never work as they would seem to need to "know" of each other... but your proof of concept shows that may not be true. If you pull this off you're going to change the way a lot of us build our models.
smokytyrz 2 years ago
Good one Gary. This would be substantially cheaper than HeliCommand ;-) I hope it all goes well, look forward to seeing a video of this.. I think if it works, will cause quite a stir amongst the RC Heli world.
Steve
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Lindseyolol 2 years ago
nice!!!
can you test it to see the video?
peris2312 2 years ago
Fabulous. It should work, but in my case, since learning helis before gyros, I would probably crash it cause too stable. LOL. I cant wait to see how it works. It should be so stable, you could tie it to the ground with a cable, get it hovering, run into the house, grab a beer, and return. LOL Now that is stable. 5 stars and good luck.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
me thinks testing will be somewhat of a run and hide event (c: should work fine (fingers crossed) not sure how to get it to work on a ccpm heli though. Testing over the next weekend.
GaryGraham66 2 years ago
great effort bruv 5* tenna per gyro :D how much is a mixer please? i can see this on every heli i will ever own lol :D nice one
0n3m1s1s0 2 years ago
good effort. looks as if its trying to keep the swashplate horizontal.
nice job. hope the test flight goes well.
subzzzzzzzero 2 years ago
How many gyro's???? Nice job
ChappersSP 2 years ago
top work m8...cant wait to see the test of this..just look at the cost different..the saving you would make..unreal..
crazy9catears 2 years ago
Good stuff, I'm very interested to see how this flies.
I think that while it can't guarantee to bring the heli back to a stable hover it should do a good job of smoothing out some of the chop on a blustery day.
I'm looking forward to seeing a test flight.
carlosthecactus 2 years ago
Yeah i like it and i saw r/c superpowers doing this sort of thing but with r/c planes and it works a treat mate,nice one = 5*
startazz 2 years ago
The commercial RC "autopilot" systems use and optical sensor to reference the earth's horizon to maintain a positional reference. This system uses inertial and will not correct for the inherent drift (error) .
It may be difficult to control in this fashion.
tlednaw 2 years ago
Yeah I know but the auto pilot version will not work if there is no horizon, ie near buildings or trees etc. the helicommand system works on gyros and an optical sensor to prevent drift, I'm not taking my laser mouse apart to make one of those. (c;
GaryGraham66 2 years ago
nicely done bruv ;D i was following another lad on a forum who did this with his HBK2 then moved the electronics over to a belt CP, were you following the same thread? if not i will try dig out the thread for ya as matey may have some gyro setting tips for ya ;)
0n3m1s1s0 2 years ago
Brilliant!
FlyByDanny 2 years ago