why are people hating on Murray? He is an excellent player, just watch a couple of his semis/finals. He reads his opponents so well, his just lacking that little bit extra to get a title.
Perfect description of his face after crushing that forehand waaaay out lol. And to the guy talking about arm size difference....check out the difference between Guillermo Vilas (great lefty clay courter in the 70's and early 80s) left forearm and his right....startling!
@ivantrajce89 lol unlike you dumb shit i dont have to be in the same country as someone to be his fan. Federer has more records than Djokovic will ever have, and you know it. choke on your hate, but Federer wont even know about it, he'll still be the best.
This is one of those matches that Federer really wasn't on it. I mean... Federer losing to Murray like that? If it was either Djokovic or Nadal that's ok, but MURRAY? Ah, come on!
@AntiSocialChannel85 He's the best because he's winning tournaments beating no one ranked higher than him.
Fed's winning best tournaments in indoor conditions where weather means shit. Let's see how he is roasting in best of five in Melbourne midday summer in January.
@ArjunJethwa He beat Nadal didn't he, and owned him 63 60. And your whole argument is stupid because Roger loves the heat in Melbourne and has won there 4 times.
@3timeMVPNash Yeah he beat a tired out of sorts Nadal on an indoor best of 3 tournament at the end of the year. And also, he loves the heat in Australia but as of late now he's older he's not been playing in the heat that well. Nearly lost to Davydenko in 2010, Simon in 2011.
Lets see how he plays in the midday heat, he can't be wasting energy playing useless tournaments in the middle-east.
@ArjunJethwa Also, saying that he beat a tired and out of sorts Nadal on an indoor best of 3 tournament is disrespectful to the great tennis Fed played that day. Nadal was absolutely fine, Roger was just much superior. I could come back and say that Nadal beat Roger on an extremely slow hard court that plays like clay against an out of sorts Federer, and that would diminish his achievement, but I don't.
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why does everyone call murray a pusher, you can't make it to the top 5 in the world, 3 grandslam finals and 17 singles titles whilst being a pusher. He's not even fast enough to be a pusher, and he just knows where to hit the ball smart with just the right enough pace so the opponent doesn't take advantage of it.
@frilloz4 actually, that would be an understatement. Nadal is amazing, but I still contend he's a pusher, a very, VERY advanced pusher. His defensive and retrieving skills are unmatched. If Federer is the ultimate offensive player, Nadal is his ultimate counterpart. Nadal's ability to negate power is otherworldly.
@AceGuitarR7 Its a preference, thats why Llodra, Radek and Mahut still serve and volley. And im sure there are more out there but i still see your point.
@iRuss876 look at how he plays. he changes up the pace consistenly, mixes between loopy and flat shots, places serve well, and puts his shot where he wants. def does not push...he's not roddick.
@MaratSafinVideos It's too much wrist and a shortened backswing these days I think. He used to hit forehands by the use of his legs and a full upper body rotation. He didn't need to swing ultra fast back then, his power and control on the forehand came more natural.
@Stylaz21 What? Federer's racket head speed has definitely decreased over the years so I'm not quite sure where you're heading with that. He's ageing, he's more than a half-step slow, he's mentally fragile against the Murray, Nadal and Djokovic more often than not.
@MaratSafinVideos What I mean is that Federers racket head speed was based on the full use of his body back in the days, only now it seems that he forces to swing faster not necessarily resulting in faster racket head speed. Sounds a bit awkard, but I hope you know where I'm getting to.
@Stylaz21 Maybe. I've definitely noticed that overall there's less upper body rotation, he's less explosive. It's a shame he's lost what once was a flawless stroke. I don't think he'll ever get it back.
@ownthelaws So intelligent that he cannot figure out that he needs to play more aggressively to win the majors. He can win as many of these Masters 1000's that nobody seems to care less about any more, as much as he wants but after it's all said and done, if his career finishes without a slam, then he'll be full of spite.
@MaratSafinVideos Token response, think up something else son. If he hasn't won a slam (not a major you braindead yank cretin) by the end of his career, come back to me then.
@Rafathaman94 But really your comment helps Murray, the fact that Federer had to beat Isner, Soderling and Djokovic back to back shows he was on top form. If Murray had such an easy draw that means he would've got blown in straight sets against a player who had to beat top players throughout. Yet he got blown himself?
@Rafathaman94 Cupcake draw like Nadal in Indian Wells?! Since Federer's draw was so hard it just shows how well he was playing. Yet look at the score of this match...
@Rafathaman94 i didnt say say they are equal on clay. nadal is the slightly better clay court player
youre absolutely right about the psychological advantage nadal has over federer. that and the fact that they mostly met on clay and when nadal was in top form is the only reason why the h2h looks the way it does imo.
but that just does not make nadal the better tennis player. at least not in my book.
both of them playing their best tennis -> nadal has the edge only on clay
@Rafathaman94 yes - a very fair point. I definitely believe nadal has a mental advantage and his game matches up to federers well. but I didnt think nadal played that great in hamburg to get the match back, it was more fed handing it to him and nadal kinda putting pressure on him. still, all respect to nadal for grinding it out
@Aquaboy99 It's true; Murray is a variable wanker. Federer needed to move forward to the short topsin hit ball. I guess he doesn't care now. He just won Basel.
@Ou8y2k2 no I mean it's just that Roger has his own tricks and knowledge that we will never know of and all we can do is guess what his mistakes are...
even if his opponent plays his best tennis he always has his chances anyway and if he takes them he wins. no matter what the guy on the other side of the net does
the one exception being nadal on slow clay. thats the only matchup he can lose when he plays on his top level
@erbgorre totally agree with you. I mean if fed and nadal both played their best on clay,I genuinely think fed would bet him 60% of the time. Just because he wouldnt make those errors and hit unbelieveable shots. If nadal played his best, he just wouldnt miss anything really, but I couldnt see him retrieving the best shots fed has to pull
@MulletMan3108 i kinda have to disagree with those 60% there. obviously nadal wouldnt destroy a top level fed on clay like the h2h suggests but i actually give him the edge there because his game is much more suited to the surface because his spin lets him dominate the long rallies and fed can barely come to the net cause even on a perfect approach he will most likely get passed. so fed just doesnt have as many options there besides trying wild angles and abusing the drop shot to the max
@MulletMan3108 i actually do think that fed played his best clay tennis in the rome finale 2006 and nadal could still hold him off. even tho it was very close. so you gotta give credit to nadal as well. he is the best clay court player ever in my eyes.
@erbgorre Really?I think youve stated some valid points there,however I definitely dont htink fed played his best clay tennis then. He did play well but it was too patchy, and he actually had two match points (with a forehand that was very simple for him). If he was playing his best, he would have had nadal in 4 imo. Tbh, when fed plays his best, the spin doesnt affect him all that much.Maybe I should say actually that 60% of the time nadal would win - thats more realistic dont you think?
@MulletMan3108 yeah well there are always some things that could have been better. there is no perfect match
but it was one of the very few matches between them where they both played on a very high level and even there it showed that its feds only bad matchup cause he has to go to ridiculous lengths to win points there
i guess a 60/40 advantage for nadal on clay seems fitting
Love it how roger reacts :)
SirVetje 3 days ago
Lol roger cracks me up.
Crosby4hyg 4 days ago
you're purposely losing against murray so that you'll make him feel good and forget about the grand slam loses. that's what you're doing roger C:
federerfreak4 4 days ago
why are people hating on Murray? He is an excellent player, just watch a couple of his semis/finals. He reads his opponents so well, his just lacking that little bit extra to get a title.
chazstahs 2 weeks ago
murray is shit he always wait for the opponent to make the mistake shit cunt
Strezkip 2 weeks ago
@Strezkip Yeah your right. I love watching Djokovic, Nadal and Federer... but watching Murray just fucking sends me to sleep.
TheAlexx27 2 weeks ago
Federer is perfection of tenis
peacemaker3042 3 weeks ago
Perfect description of his face after crushing that forehand waaaay out lol. And to the guy talking about arm size difference....check out the difference between Guillermo Vilas (great lefty clay courter in the 70's and early 80s) left forearm and his right....startling!
camvantasco 3 weeks ago
wow look at the difference in arm size! his right arm is much bigger than his left one
SlipStreamRobot 3 weeks ago
thumbs up if you thought that Federer would say, "fucking shit drive"
extrafalario35 3 weeks ago
c était juste coud de bol de murray
leuma1991 1 month ago
roger retard
ivantrajce89 1 month ago
@ivantrajce89 haha go drown yourself you serbian trash, Djokovic will never be as great as Federer.
kyuubiyura 3 weeks ago
@kyuubiyura whahahahha aajajajja fuck you switzerland moron , federer(pederer) total mega idiot ever + worst player ever
ivantrajce89 3 weeks ago
@ivantrajce89 lol unlike you dumb shit i dont have to be in the same country as someone to be his fan. Federer has more records than Djokovic will ever have, and you know it. choke on your hate, but Federer wont even know about it, he'll still be the best.
kyuubiyura 3 weeks ago
@kyuubiyura sure ;)
ivantrajce89 3 weeks ago
at 0:21 look how the girl thinks hes going towards her to hit her because of the bad shot... and she runs
santomkd 1 month ago 6
@santomkd that wasn't a serious comment was it?
lleytonhewitt50 1 month ago
the shot at 0:13 look at the curve
mrSnakeeye20 1 month ago 2
0:12 to 0:14
Holy shit, nice effect.
celularfeoz6 1 month ago
federer is the best!
zheresadhe 1 month ago
mhm :)
Salko62 1 month ago
You are baby for Djokovic . . . :))))
Salko62 2 months ago
@Salko62 Huh?
HornyGates 1 month ago
@Salko62 Djokovic is idiot...
MrMilan90 1 month ago
51% of uploaders are assholes
WickederThanThou 2 months ago
bend more your knees would say my coach after this shot :D lololol
slatz20 2 months ago
@slatz20 suck a dick fuckface no one cares
trollMACHINE 1 month ago
@trollMACHINE F:UCK U BASTARD
slatz20 1 month ago
@slatz20 haha you crying buddy.
trollMACHINE 1 month ago
altro bel video del c****
masdev78 2 months ago
I love the incredulous look on Roger's face as if to say, "I can't believe I just did that!"
sd0676 2 months ago
The shot at :12 seems to defy the laws of physics. Federer is contradicting Newton himself.
vrama21 2 months ago
This is one of those matches that Federer really wasn't on it. I mean... Federer losing to Murray like that? If it was either Djokovic or Nadal that's ok, but MURRAY? Ah, come on!
TTFAFF 3 months ago 3
Luckily he came back and now he's the best again
AntiSocialChannel85 3 months ago
@AntiSocialChannel85 He's the best because he's winning tournaments beating no one ranked higher than him.
Fed's winning best tournaments in indoor conditions where weather means shit. Let's see how he is roasting in best of five in Melbourne midday summer in January.
ArjunJethwa 2 months ago
@ArjunJethwa He beat Nadal didn't he, and owned him 63 60. And your whole argument is stupid because Roger loves the heat in Melbourne and has won there 4 times.
3timeMVPNash 2 months ago
@3timeMVPNash Yeah he beat a tired out of sorts Nadal on an indoor best of 3 tournament at the end of the year. And also, he loves the heat in Australia but as of late now he's older he's not been playing in the heat that well. Nearly lost to Davydenko in 2010, Simon in 2011.
Lets see how he plays in the midday heat, he can't be wasting energy playing useless tournaments in the middle-east.
ArjunJethwa 2 months ago
@ArjunJethwa The heat was hardly a factor in those two matches, and even at 30 Fed still has some of the best stamina on tour.
3timeMVPNash 2 months ago
@ArjunJethwa Also, saying that he beat a tired and out of sorts Nadal on an indoor best of 3 tournament is disrespectful to the great tennis Fed played that day. Nadal was absolutely fine, Roger was just much superior. I could come back and say that Nadal beat Roger on an extremely slow hard court that plays like clay against an out of sorts Federer, and that would diminish his achievement, but I don't.
3timeMVPNash 2 months ago
Thumbs up if you think the fool that posted this vid is a complete tool bag.
srmcg288 3 months ago
0:34 ......What the hell is going on here?
Shodai24 3 months ago
Thumbs up if you think smartboy595's comment is redundant.
Ou8y2k2 3 months ago
whoa! awesome-ish
theonewhoisepic 3 months ago
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The true is that Federer is Quentin Tarantino
mrzlcumrzlcu 3 months ago
Que Bello... No te preocupes tanto mi Rey!
tanynature 3 months ago
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wisamz1 3 months ago
Wow....Roger is just so cute!
PRINCESSVENUS001 3 months ago 2
im doing a great job at battlefield 3 and MW3
mz0196 3 months ago
Commies talking out of their ass as usual; that is exactly the kind of ball Fed wants to start dictating with his FH.
choyothe 3 months ago
@choyothe Yep. "Murray mixing it up" my ass.
kdbq126 3 months ago
@choyothe Agreed. Some players struggle with no pace, but Federer usually destroys sitter balls like that with his forehand.
zdlore1985 3 months ago
johny,la gente esta muy loca?WTF XD
Bolotism 4 months ago
Ok who else watched the video like 4 times to search for the 'what am i doing'......... BUT NOTHING?
theJuicyblues 4 months ago 4
@theJuicyblues I did, then I told myself, "What am I doing?" :)
qzpmwxonqzpm 4 months ago 9
omg no way i cant believe he missed a shot.........
ortonlegend 4 months ago
What's the point of uploading this?
MrRazorblade999 4 months ago
should name the darn clip: why am i watching this stupid clip?!!!!!!!
TheProudsyrian1 4 months ago
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@unowen727 lmao that means you are one of them
itsjonkuo 5 months ago
Why are there so many dislikes? Butt hurt Murray dick riders?
itsjonkuo 5 months ago
in his mind actually saying "wtf i'm doing?"
dellam04 5 months ago
wtf is this? anything not normal? jesus get a life folks
vivs005 5 months ago
That was an awful match by Roger...
aleztfu 5 months ago 3
this video is shit
dhuuhd3 6 months ago 2
@dhuuhd3 Why?
federerbestcIass 6 months ago
@federerbestcIass he missed a shot, everyone does
dhuuhd3 5 months ago
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bestspots1 6 months ago
<333 roger is soo sexy <3
itsjonkuo 6 months ago 97
Top comments are gay.
MrKhacheerio 6 months ago 19
@MrKhacheerio You're gay.
itsjonkuo 6 months ago
@MrKhacheerio Yes. So you're gay!
TheDlork 2 weeks ago
thumbs up if you thought that Federer would say, 'What am I doing "
smartboy595 6 months ago 1339
@smartboy595 he sayed but in his mind
frosttenful 4 months ago
@smartboy595 actualy he would say...how the f**k did i miss that?!
atveus 3 months ago
@smartboy595 Your comment is more popular than the video, good job.
halfw1ng 2 months ago
@smartboy595 bad timing, it happens
jembozzo 1 month ago
@smartboy595 The Face say it all @0:30 u dumb
slatz20 1 month ago
@smartboy595 holy shit look at the amount of likes! lol
Dimaggio88 1 month ago
@ownthelaws ya. Miss a forehand that easily
thevsters9 7 months ago
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thevsters9 7 months ago
That was probably only the 3rd time i saw federer do that. hes a god i tell ya
thevsters9 7 months ago
@thevsters9 Do what, miss a forehand ?
ownthelaws 7 months ago
0:15 shit look at that side spin top spin shit
choubro1 7 months ago
That was an awful match by Federer....
aleztfu 7 months ago
Murray can have the masters, Roger would rather have the slams
gargarensi 7 months ago
ajajjaja no importa Roger, simplemente fue un tiro largo. La reaccion de Rog es increible: pura clase
79alexmartin 7 months ago
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bestspots1 7 months ago
Why are there so many dislikes?? Awesome quality.
toozydude2 7 months ago
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toozydude2 7 months ago
why does everyone call murray a pusher, you can't make it to the top 5 in the world, 3 grandslam finals and 17 singles titles whilst being a pusher. He's not even fast enough to be a pusher, and he just knows where to hit the ball smart with just the right enough pace so the opponent doesn't take advantage of it.
frilloz4 8 months ago
@frilloz4 why not? Nadal's won 10 slams being a pusher. Don't be a sour puss just because Murray's pushing isn't good enough
blindspirit 8 months ago
@blindspirit you can't be a pusher on grass, and he's won 2 slams, the surface is too fast for pushing on that
frilloz4 8 months ago
@frilloz4 you can if you're Nadal. I think you're underestimating how good Nadal is at pushing.
blindspirit 8 months ago
@blindspirit how about just 'how good Nadal is (full-stop)'
frilloz4 8 months ago
@frilloz4 actually, that would be an understatement. Nadal is amazing, but I still contend he's a pusher, a very, VERY advanced pusher. His defensive and retrieving skills are unmatched. If Federer is the ultimate offensive player, Nadal is his ultimate counterpart. Nadal's ability to negate power is otherworldly.
blindspirit 7 months ago
@blindspirit agree with your comments so much
ArjunJethwa 7 months ago
@frilloz4 not anymore..... it used to be. why do you think no one serve volleys anymore? the balls are slower too
AceGuitarR7 7 months ago
@AceGuitarR7 Its a preference, thats why Llodra, Radek and Mahut still serve and volley. And im sure there are more out there but i still see your point.
frilloz4 7 months ago
@frilloz4 grass NOW NOW FUCKING NOW FAST ? it is slow as hell right now
mechkapechka 7 months ago
@mechkapechka what if the players got faster, hmmmmm?
frilloz4 7 months ago
@frilloz4 they're not
mechkapechka 7 months ago
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poor Roger. but his expression is sexy and is attractive.. I'm sorry. Roger :( ... OK HOW THE HELL THIS COMMENT GETS 29 THUMBS UP ?!
napleee 8 months ago
Murry is a f'ing pusher!
stikmunkey 9 months ago 6
@stikmunkey he's not though.
cj397 8 months ago
@cj397 i think he is
iRuss876 8 months ago
@iRuss876 look at how he plays. he changes up the pace consistenly, mixes between loopy and flat shots, places serve well, and puts his shot where he wants. def does not push...he's not roddick.
cj397 8 months ago
i love how when roger makes one mistake its a massive deal. when that happens you know he's the best.
blackratpoo 9 months ago 5
This is a typing post 2008 Federer forehand. His forehand prior to 2007 would very rarely leak these kind of errors.
MaratSafinVideos 10 months ago
@MaratSafinVideos It's too much wrist and a shortened backswing these days I think. He used to hit forehands by the use of his legs and a full upper body rotation. He didn't need to swing ultra fast back then, his power and control on the forehand came more natural.
Stylaz21 10 months ago
@Stylaz21 What? Federer's racket head speed has definitely decreased over the years so I'm not quite sure where you're heading with that. He's ageing, he's more than a half-step slow, he's mentally fragile against the Murray, Nadal and Djokovic more often than not.
MaratSafinVideos 10 months ago
@MaratSafinVideos What I mean is that Federers racket head speed was based on the full use of his body back in the days, only now it seems that he forces to swing faster not necessarily resulting in faster racket head speed. Sounds a bit awkard, but I hope you know where I'm getting to.
Stylaz21 10 months ago
@Stylaz21 Maybe. I've definitely noticed that overall there's less upper body rotation, he's less explosive. It's a shame he's lost what once was a flawless stroke. I don't think he'll ever get it back.
MaratSafinVideos 10 months ago
Just Take it Easy
shawn77111 11 months ago
Such a smart point from Murray, easily one of the best students of the game at the moment, knows of Federer;s weaknesses on big points.
ownthelaws 11 months ago
@ownthelaws So intelligent that he cannot figure out that he needs to play more aggressively to win the majors. He can win as many of these Masters 1000's that nobody seems to care less about any more, as much as he wants but after it's all said and done, if his career finishes without a slam, then he'll be full of spite.
MaratSafinVideos 10 months ago
@MaratSafinVideos Token response, think up something else son. If he hasn't won a slam (not a major you braindead yank cretin) by the end of his career, come back to me then.
ownthelaws 10 months ago
@Rafathaman94 I thought you never mentioned Indian Wells but I reread your second comment, I still replied though "But really your comment helps..."
ArjunJethwa 11 months ago
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@Rafathaman94 But really your comment helps Murray, the fact that Federer had to beat Isner, Soderling and Djokovic back to back shows he was on top form. If Murray had such an easy draw that means he would've got blown in straight sets against a player who had to beat top players throughout. Yet he got blown himself?
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ArjunJethwa 11 months ago
@Rafathaman94 Cupcake draw like Nadal in Indian Wells?! Since Federer's draw was so hard it just shows how well he was playing. Yet look at the score of this match...
ArjunJethwa 11 months ago
Murrays a PUSHER!
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0:27-0:28: "what the fuck was that...."
misterlonely1446 1 year ago 2
@Rafathaman94 i didnt say say they are equal on clay. nadal is the slightly better clay court player
youre absolutely right about the psychological advantage nadal has over federer. that and the fact that they mostly met on clay and when nadal was in top form is the only reason why the h2h looks the way it does imo.
but that just does not make nadal the better tennis player. at least not in my book.
both of them playing their best tennis -> nadal has the edge only on clay
thats all im saying
erbgorre 1 year ago
@Rafathaman94 yes - a very fair point. I definitely believe nadal has a mental advantage and his game matches up to federers well. but I didnt think nadal played that great in hamburg to get the match back, it was more fed handing it to him and nadal kinda putting pressure on him. still, all respect to nadal for grinding it out
MulletMan3108 1 year ago
"... murray just doesnt give players what they want"
federer getting a little of his own medicine from murray
foul01 1 year ago
look at the spin on that forehand up the line, holy fuck
cj397 1 year ago
gosh so fucking cute
katherineli 1 year ago 66
@katherineli
wow are you gay?
MadBanana39167 7 months ago
@MadBanana39167 Her name is Katherine sooooo...yeah....
enigma81581 7 months ago 2
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my name is madbanana. does that mean im a vega table?
MadBanana39167 7 months ago
@katherineli gay
Silligk 6 months ago
nice quality
Beechaii2 1 year ago 7
He didn't move forward to the shot and chose to open up the racket face too much.
Ou8y2k2 1 year ago
@Ou8y2k2 lol it's so funny to read such comments
Aquaboy99 1 year ago
@Aquaboy99 It's true; Murray is a variable wanker. Federer needed to move forward to the short topsin hit ball. I guess he doesn't care now. He just won Basel.
Ou8y2k2 1 year ago
@Ou8y2k2 no I mean it's just that Roger has his own tricks and knowledge that we will never know of and all we can do is guess what his mistakes are...
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poor Roger. but his expression is sexy and is attractive.. I'm sorry. Roger :(
federerbestclass 1 year ago 36
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@federerbestclass why You. do like talk. This? / You stupid idiot.
ArjunJethwa 1 year ago
@federerbestclass
dude are you gay?
Hamed420 1 year ago
@Hamed420 maybe shes a girl?
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@federerbestclass
faggot
anismessi 7 months ago
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@federerbestclass No, is ugly expression. You gay,.
federerbestcIass 6 months ago
Yea Roger, what the h*** were you doing??? seriously though, he had quite a few chances in this match even though Murray played near perfect.
Elwink 1 year ago
@Elwink thats why hes the best ever
even if his opponent plays his best tennis he always has his chances anyway and if he takes them he wins. no matter what the guy on the other side of the net does
the one exception being nadal on slow clay. thats the only matchup he can lose when he plays on his top level
erbgorre 1 year ago
@erbgorre totally agree with you. I mean if fed and nadal both played their best on clay,I genuinely think fed would bet him 60% of the time. Just because he wouldnt make those errors and hit unbelieveable shots. If nadal played his best, he just wouldnt miss anything really, but I couldnt see him retrieving the best shots fed has to pull
MulletMan3108 1 year ago
@MulletMan3108 yep, but that would only happen in a perfect world
hattrickster33 1 year ago
@MulletMan3108 i kinda have to disagree with those 60% there. obviously nadal wouldnt destroy a top level fed on clay like the h2h suggests but i actually give him the edge there because his game is much more suited to the surface because his spin lets him dominate the long rallies and fed can barely come to the net cause even on a perfect approach he will most likely get passed. so fed just doesnt have as many options there besides trying wild angles and abusing the drop shot to the max
erbgorre 1 year ago
@MulletMan3108 i actually do think that fed played his best clay tennis in the rome finale 2006 and nadal could still hold him off. even tho it was very close. so you gotta give credit to nadal as well. he is the best clay court player ever in my eyes.
so for me its
clay: nadal >/= federer
grass: federer > nadal
hard: federer >> nadal
erbgorre 1 year ago
@erbgorre Really?I think youve stated some valid points there,however I definitely dont htink fed played his best clay tennis then. He did play well but it was too patchy, and he actually had two match points (with a forehand that was very simple for him). If he was playing his best, he would have had nadal in 4 imo. Tbh, when fed plays his best, the spin doesnt affect him all that much.Maybe I should say actually that 60% of the time nadal would win - thats more realistic dont you think?
MulletMan3108 1 year ago
@MulletMan3108 yeah well there are always some things that could have been better. there is no perfect match
but it was one of the very few matches between them where they both played on a very high level and even there it showed that its feds only bad matchup cause he has to go to ridiculous lengths to win points there
i guess a 60/40 advantage for nadal on clay seems fitting
erbgorre 1 year ago