can i gain xp like that on my ps3 i have a total of 3 cotrollers so my caracters can all rank up i tought i would not count awsome im going to play like that lol il rank up 3 caracters in 1 game hahaha :)
I'm playing on the xbox and my stats cap at 70 i.e. Tower Health caps at 70 from hero level ups; yet I noticed the new character had 100 without equipment bonuses. How?
@RoughDivideVIII on pc the have higher levels and more upgrade points to use and bether equipment. iseen a guy have like all the godly clothes and all had over 69 upgrades his pet had 56 upgrades its crazy but the have to pay for the extra stuff BUT its cheap evry upgrade u can buy it in the pc full dlc pack 11 bucks i have a ps3 and it does not seem there going to releas any of the new caracters on either consoles so ! only dlc map packs nothing els announced yet.
now i feel like an ass for ignoring my mage all this time:/ can you tell me your base stats for your sqiure mage and monk? i think i dropped the ball on my countess and monk a bit lol. may have put too much points in attack range and rate.
If ure strong enough, like me :)) , get sum TWR DEF HP + ATK equipments for ure adept, then use fireball towers + monk str aura as tank. All you need is lvl 4 on each tower and u can pretty much AFK entire wave 9 + 10.
Wyvern defences on bridge: ONE magic tower
Wyvern defences on left side: TWO magic towers aiming outwards. is all you need.
It's a Glass Cannon strategy I know, but I use it, it works VERY well.
I believe what thn10606 was talking about was...because you have an extra character out,
you receive a significantly higher amount of creeps per wave.
while it may not be double the amount...
275 -> 411, ~50% increase in creeps is a pretty substantial amount
Having an extra character out at higher waves is even more beneficial to you because higher waves give you an exponentially higher amount of experience.
Wow Vicious, you have the best brain in the world! It worked on hard, crystal only got hit once and my defenses stats are pretty bad but I did perfect, almost flawless! Thanks, keep up the good work.
@thn10606 2 players does not equal 2x the mana, to get 2x mana you would need 2x mobs and drops. It would be realistic to say maybe 10% more MAX not double. Mana is split between players not additive. So having 2 players out means that 1000 mana would get split 500/500 and thus I would still get 1000 mana. If I was alone it would still be 1000 mana just not split.
People are confusing the double item cap with double item drop.
Hey i love all your tutorials and keep them coming. I was just curious if you could make a tutorial about upgrading things. For example i am confused about how to upgrade the guardian pets. Do i upgrade the tower stats or is it better to upgrade the "tower upgrade stats" . And if you have any other tips on what to upgrade on pets/armors/ or weapons that would help a lot.
Great tutorial! The extra XP awards are not multipliers that I can tell, but can add some reasonable extra experience. I wrote down some I got from glitterhelm (Hard) run. Flawless 56K XP for no crystal damage during the whole match. Master Builder 16K per wave I use all my DU. Immortal another 20K if you don't die. I'm sure they are higher numbers on Insane and are an extra bonus use all your DU and keep yourself and crystal safe all waves.
Use all your DU. The master builder bonus will give you extra xp in addition to scaling well with multiple 1.3 multipliers. Since you're generally floating over 1k mana anyways just toss down 4 of the app walls in the center.
Great video, I should probably get back to DD since I'm finally done with skyrim.
This strategy even worked with 3 ogres at one spawn across the map from me; lasted long enough until I could get up there from the most southern point, though it was close to being destroyed. However, at the eastern point, I actually use 1 spike blockade with a harpoon until the apprentice switch; works fine, but you may have to babysit it for the first round due to a sneaky goblin that gets past.
@txt315 Faster, Easier to update PC. Console takes more work and more red tape. I think they even have a fee they must pay to submit updates to the PSN while Valve updates on PC are free.
But when it comes to mods, updates, patches, PC has always been the top of the food chain and always will be.
in the north of Glitter u r placing 2 walls... i prefer placing only 1 and its working fine :P just wanted to let u know maybe u can make something awesome with this inofrmation (3 DU xD)
ur making more money with farming or selling weapons and armor?
how long have it took to be farmed like that -> all chars high EQ?
In 7.12 they're making it so splitscreen characters don't increase the number of items on the ground. Money will probably be closer to 1m to 1.2m per run.
@Caidos87 Does not matter its 2M per single player run, not enough items on the ground to take advantage of the higher 2 person cap. That is more of a thing for survival mode where item cap hits so easily.
@mariofarmer it doesnt matter really cos they are both his chars? even if it was split between both his chars he would still get the same amount of mana
When u do hard mode u can do lvl 70 in 1-2 hours, u need only one hero aprentice, just build like 4 fire and 2 basic towers instead that aura/walls/dps towers combination, from wave 2 u can use your lvl 1 character, shorter run = more gold and more exp, just make sure u and your core dont take dmg and your DU is 165/165 for 90% exp bonus
@MyLaNn9 I did a spreadsheet on this once even with the bonus for no dmg on hard mode it was almost not even half as good as Insane w/ no bonus for XP. Also pretty sure master builder is not a % based bonus. No core dmg 1.3x multi, (30%) No hero dmg 1.3x multi, master builder, its like +2000 or something I do not remember ever seeing it as a multiplier.
@Roler112 I have been doing this since way before super loot, infact nothing I have is really that super at best like a 30^ armor. My weapons are just challenge rewards.
I am on purpose not super decked out on tutorials as I know it would be pointless to produce a tutorial that is only possible by somebody w/ great gear. By far the most important thing here is just your Wall HP and your DPS.
My walls never got even close to past 1/2 HP so your stats can be almost 1/2 of mine easy.
I had an ogre a couple times walk up the middle where you just put the 1 MM. I put a wall there just incase from now on to keep mobs from goin up there. Just have to stick it back a wee bit. And in a couple of spots where you put your walls I put mine alittle bit further forward, like the one on the bottom middle, I put it down at the very bottom of steps .
No dislikes o_o
wiljam666 1 week ago
can i gain xp like that on my ps3 i have a total of 3 cotrollers so my caracters can all rank up i tought i would not count awsome im going to play like that lol il rank up 3 caracters in 1 game hahaha :)
sjors91 2 weeks ago
Do I have to swap out to the others? Because I just want my squire from level 50 - 70
xFLAMETIZZYx 3 weeks ago
Using xbox controller to level alt! FUCKING GENIOUS!!! why i didnt think of it i dont know,i had the controller next to me lol
Layarion 1 month ago
hey vicious does this still work for farming mana? and do I need to do it in insane to get that much mana that you are getting?
Ryoma0z 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
I'm playing on the xbox and my stats cap at 70 i.e. Tower Health caps at 70 from hero level ups; yet I noticed the new character had 100 without equipment bonuses. How?
RoughDivideVIII 1 month ago
@RoughDivideVIII Because I am not playing on xbox... I am on PC
ViciousXUSMC 1 month ago
@RoughDivideVIII on pc the have higher levels and more upgrade points to use and bether equipment. iseen a guy have like all the godly clothes and all had over 69 upgrades his pet had 56 upgrades its crazy but the have to pay for the extra stuff BUT its cheap evry upgrade u can buy it in the pc full dlc pack 11 bucks i have a ps3 and it does not seem there going to releas any of the new caracters on either consoles so ! only dlc map packs nothing els announced yet.
sjors91 2 weeks ago
@sjors91 i ment his pet had 156 not 56 !
sjors91 2 weeks ago
Can i add a new player ingame too on my ps3?
MrAlaiserus 1 month ago
wat are your stats for the tower mage?
DABABYSEAL 1 month ago
how do you have your alt out at the same time?
vasimre42 1 month ago
@vasimre42 Game supports up to 4 player local coop just join in with another player.
ViciousXUSMC 1 month ago
@ViciousXUSMC i think he meant how do you do it so you can get your alt from your own account/computer, out at the same time.
onidead 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ViciousXUSMC do you suggest anything else for mana now? like Insane Alch survival?
AvousYelmurc 1 month ago
oh and how far do you get on survival with that build?
outlaw0987654321 2 months ago
now i feel like an ass for ignoring my mage all this time:/ can you tell me your base stats for your sqiure mage and monk? i think i dropped the ball on my countess and monk a bit lol. may have put too much points in attack range and rate.
outlaw0987654321 2 months ago
If ure strong enough, like me :)) , get sum TWR DEF HP + ATK equipments for ure adept, then use fireball towers + monk str aura as tank. All you need is lvl 4 on each tower and u can pretty much AFK entire wave 9 + 10.
Wyvern defences on bridge: ONE magic tower
Wyvern defences on left side: TWO magic towers aiming outwards. is all you need.
It's a Glass Cannon strategy I know, but I use it, it works VERY well.
mastela88 2 months ago
I believe what thn10606 was talking about was...because you have an extra character out,
you receive a significantly higher amount of creeps per wave.
while it may not be double the amount...
275 -> 411, ~50% increase in creeps is a pretty substantial amount
Having an extra character out at higher waves is even more beneficial to you because higher waves give you an exponentially higher amount of experience.
xxlehomaxx 2 months ago
Wow Vicious, you have the best brain in the world! It worked on hard, crystal only got hit once and my defenses stats are pretty bad but I did perfect, almost flawless! Thanks, keep up the good work.
TerrariaIdiot 2 months ago
Well, since you had 2 players out, you got double the mana, since the second player gets mana too, and they're both tied to the same bank so...
thn10606 2 months ago
@thn10606 2 players does not equal 2x the mana, to get 2x mana you would need 2x mobs and drops. It would be realistic to say maybe 10% more MAX not double. Mana is split between players not additive. So having 2 players out means that 1000 mana would get split 500/500 and thus I would still get 1000 mana. If I was alone it would still be 1000 mana just not split.
People are confusing the double item cap with double item drop.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago
@thn10606 ye thats funn on my ps3 il use 4 controllers for a 4 split screen lol il get x4 mana and xp for my caracters lol :)
sjors91 2 weeks ago
lovin your videos...everything about them, commentary, the details, great!
KamelJabber1 2 months ago in playlist Dungeon Defenders Tutorials & Guides
Some co-op tutorials will be nice.
Good job so far, thx.
DolevSan 2 months ago
Hey i love all your tutorials and keep them coming. I was just curious if you could make a tutorial about upgrading things. For example i am confused about how to upgrade the guardian pets. Do i upgrade the tower stats or is it better to upgrade the "tower upgrade stats" . And if you have any other tips on what to upgrade on pets/armors/ or weapons that would help a lot.
MrSuki123 2 months ago
Great tutorial! The extra XP awards are not multipliers that I can tell, but can add some reasonable extra experience. I wrote down some I got from glitterhelm (Hard) run. Flawless 56K XP for no crystal damage during the whole match. Master Builder 16K per wave I use all my DU. Immortal another 20K if you don't die. I'm sure they are higher numbers on Insane and are an extra bonus use all your DU and keep yourself and crystal safe all waves.
thelordhughes 2 months ago
Use all your DU. The master builder bonus will give you extra xp in addition to scaling well with multiple 1.3 multipliers. Since you're generally floating over 1k mana anyways just toss down 4 of the app walls in the center.
Great video, I should probably get back to DD since I'm finally done with skyrim.
schuldrich 2 months ago 5
This strategy even worked with 3 ogres at one spawn across the map from me; lasted long enough until I could get up there from the most southern point, though it was close to being destroyed. However, at the eastern point, I actually use 1 spike blockade with a harpoon until the apprentice switch; works fine, but you may have to babysit it for the first round due to a sneaky goblin that gets past.
ABYAY 2 months ago
Why won't they update anything for PS3?? I feel lack of support on the PS3.
txt315 2 months ago
@txt315 Faster, Easier to update PC. Console takes more work and more red tape. I think they even have a fee they must pay to submit updates to the PSN while Valve updates on PC are free.
But when it comes to mods, updates, patches, PC has always been the top of the food chain and always will be.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago 8
Hey Vicious ;)
i watched all ur vids and have to say GJ MAN :D
wanted to let u know something i focused out
in the north of Glitter u r placing 2 walls... i prefer placing only 1 and its working fine :P just wanted to let u know maybe u can make something awesome with this inofrmation (3 DU xD)
ur making more money with farming or selling weapons and armor?
how long have it took to be farmed like that -> all chars high EQ?
would be nice if we will play someday together ;)
continue this pls
Xtr3mxD 2 months ago
next turorial plese play like that sonja.
PLESE?
davidkrzic 2 months ago
True, but your other hero's stats are pretty good too :P oh well the build is there.. Ill try it today!
Roler112 2 months ago
In 7.12 they're making it so splitscreen characters don't increase the number of items on the ground. Money will probably be closer to 1m to 1.2m per run.
Caidos87 2 months ago
@Caidos87 Does not matter its 2M per single player run, not enough items on the ground to take advantage of the higher 2 person cap. That is more of a thing for survival mode where item cap hits so easily.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago
So Im guessing you do Survival for gear now this isnt good for it.
DazTora 2 months ago
forgot to say since u kicked the other character you get all the mana and it didnt split.
mariofarmer 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@mariofarmer it doesnt matter really cos they are both his chars? even if it was split between both his chars he would still get the same amount of mana
silverstyle136 2 months ago
cant really say u get 2m mana per run if its solo since less monsters and less items dropped. other than that nice guide
mariofarmer 2 months ago
When u do hard mode u can do lvl 70 in 1-2 hours, u need only one hero aprentice, just build like 4 fire and 2 basic towers instead that aura/walls/dps towers combination, from wave 2 u can use your lvl 1 character, shorter run = more gold and more exp, just make sure u and your core dont take dmg and your DU is 165/165 for 90% exp bonus
MyLaNn9 2 months ago
@MyLaNn9 I did a spreadsheet on this once even with the bonus for no dmg on hard mode it was almost not even half as good as Insane w/ no bonus for XP. Also pretty sure master builder is not a % based bonus. No core dmg 1.3x multi, (30%) No hero dmg 1.3x multi, master builder, its like +2000 or something I do not remember ever seeing it as a multiplier.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago
@ViciousXUSMC If u need to make some money just do alchemic lab/ramparts survival. This bonus lvl is good just for exp :)
MyLaNn9 2 months ago
@MyLaNn9 What's DU...90% bonus xp? How don't I know about this! :O
Nekrodream 2 months ago
thanks Vicious!!!
zaxer2009 2 months ago
Just finished my 3rd run on this map... and now you upload this, could have used some advice before hand :P
DILSTROYER 2 months ago
thank you for answering my request
i´ll share you on facebook
V1P3R4L 2 months ago
Any reason why haven't enabled Fast Menu Transitions option?
orinlboy 2 months ago
@orinlboy Because it was broken and yeah forgot to turn it on now that its working.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago
Will be hard for People without super loot, most of ur chars have 300 hp/atk tower stats..
Roler112 2 months ago
@Roler112 I have been doing this since way before super loot, infact nothing I have is really that super at best like a 30^ armor. My weapons are just challenge rewards.
I am on purpose not super decked out on tutorials as I know it would be pointless to produce a tutorial that is only possible by somebody w/ great gear. By far the most important thing here is just your Wall HP and your DPS.
My walls never got even close to past 1/2 HP so your stats can be almost 1/2 of mine easy.
ViciousXUSMC 2 months ago
I had an ogre a couple times walk up the middle where you just put the 1 MM. I put a wall there just incase from now on to keep mobs from goin up there. Just have to stick it back a wee bit. And in a couple of spots where you put your walls I put mine alittle bit further forward, like the one on the bottom middle, I put it down at the very bottom of steps .
TwistedFire85 2 months ago
How do you share experience amongst your heroes?
i4ybrid 2 months ago
Great guide as always ;D could you pm me your steam name? I would really like to play with you sometime :D
mra7xgreenday 2 months ago