in TCM when we use gua sha we look for the sha caused by qi and blood stagnation, in western terminology they call this technique graston technique and they call sha histomine reaction caused by adhesions... this is good work... I don't know about Graston, he maybe westernizing an ancient technique and giving it a western medical model of why it works. when working with western patient base these terminology are important to explain it this way for their understanding...
I really hate the way "conventional" medicine ridicules TCM and many other ancient forms of healing then decide to bite pieces out of it and sell it as their own.
I beg to differ. I do agree with the rationale of healing, but as far as technique goes, I use a plastic casino chip to relieve soft tissue damage using gua sha Vietnamese style. Give me a patient with soft tissue pain and I reckon I can make them feel just as well using my $1 chip as oppose to your expensive tools. Contact me at Mayo Clinic and send a patient my way. Alex Do (Acupuncturist).
@JookLumFist Yeah but David Graston is part of the "American Dream" so naturally it goes down in history that he developed it. Despite the same technique "Gua Sha" being used in the far east for thousands of years. I looked at David Graston's website. It looks like the work of some bullshit business man who likes to put a $ symbol on everything. Make a few changes to an existing technique and voila, it's your technique and you get millions.
@OwnedOver9000 I agree about the using his name thing, he needs to call it what it is, and explain how it works with his model but don't steal a technique used for thousands of years by many cultures and coin it as your own technique.
@JookLumFist I'm a chiropractor. I know about Gua Sha. This technique is better with science behind it, advanced clinicans in this technique beats gua sha any day based on facia fundimentals.
The only part I like about "Graston Technique" is the slogan, "resolve adhesion, improve circulation, reduce pain" (more scientific linguistics). A good Gua Sha treatment result should work just as well. The sad part is, not many TCM practicioners represent gua sha in it's entirety. It's just a small portion taught in accessorries class. But there are techniques that can go in to detail. Perhaps I will post some of my treatments in the near future. Cheaper and original without a patent name.
@JookLumFist using the scientific explanation is good for understanding, in TCM we use terms like qi and blood stagnation, that is fine for people who are familiar with Chinese medicine but for non practitioners they need to know why you are hurting them with this tool... I was first upset that this man took a basic technique that most Asian parent practice on their children and coined his name to it. now i applaud this man for taking another tcm techniqe and explaining it in modern term
@chineseal a chiropractor isn't a TCM practioner, better with science is good for you and your understanding, it works as well when you don't know the scientific reasoning behind it, in TCM it is used for more than just muscle adhesions caused by injuries... it is also caused by any adhesions caused by illness such as a cold, it is common to gua sha the back and chest. don't be so arrogant cause you have some "science" behind it, as a tcm practitioner I'm tired of waiting for science to catchup
in TCM when we use gua sha we look for the sha caused by qi and blood stagnation, in western terminology they call this technique graston technique and they call sha histomine reaction caused by adhesions... this is good work... I don't know about Graston, he maybe westernizing an ancient technique and giving it a western medical model of why it works. when working with western patient base these terminology are important to explain it this way for their understanding...
MrAcujin92009 1 year ago
I really hate the way "conventional" medicine ridicules TCM and many other ancient forms of healing then decide to bite pieces out of it and sell it as their own.
tuina1 1 year ago
I beg to differ. I do agree with the rationale of healing, but as far as technique goes, I use a plastic casino chip to relieve soft tissue damage using gua sha Vietnamese style. Give me a patient with soft tissue pain and I reckon I can make them feel just as well using my $1 chip as oppose to your expensive tools. Contact me at Mayo Clinic and send a patient my way. Alex Do (Acupuncturist).
JookLumFist 1 year ago
White folks seem to really like taking various cultural artifacts and calling them their own. See also: Rock and Roll.
ddaynyc 1 year ago
just a cheap form of rolfing
lerxt42 1 year ago
This is part of TCM called Gua Sha, who the hell is Graston anyway.... nothing new, good grief.
I'm Vietnamese and we've been doing this for thousands of years already.
JookLumFist 1 year ago 3
@JookLumFist Yeah but David Graston is part of the "American Dream" so naturally it goes down in history that he developed it. Despite the same technique "Gua Sha" being used in the far east for thousands of years. I looked at David Graston's website. It looks like the work of some bullshit business man who likes to put a $ symbol on everything. Make a few changes to an existing technique and voila, it's your technique and you get millions.
OwnedOver9000 1 year ago
@OwnedOver9000 I agree about the using his name thing, he needs to call it what it is, and explain how it works with his model but don't steal a technique used for thousands of years by many cultures and coin it as your own technique.
MrAcujin92009 1 year ago
@JookLumFist I'm a chiropractor. I know about Gua Sha. This technique is better with science behind it, advanced clinicans in this technique beats gua sha any day based on facia fundimentals.
chineseal 1 year ago
The only part I like about "Graston Technique" is the slogan, "resolve adhesion, improve circulation, reduce pain" (more scientific linguistics). A good Gua Sha treatment result should work just as well. The sad part is, not many TCM practicioners represent gua sha in it's entirety. It's just a small portion taught in accessorries class. But there are techniques that can go in to detail. Perhaps I will post some of my treatments in the near future. Cheaper and original without a patent name.
JookLumFist 1 year ago
@JookLumFist using the scientific explanation is good for understanding, in TCM we use terms like qi and blood stagnation, that is fine for people who are familiar with Chinese medicine but for non practitioners they need to know why you are hurting them with this tool... I was first upset that this man took a basic technique that most Asian parent practice on their children and coined his name to it. now i applaud this man for taking another tcm techniqe and explaining it in modern term
MrAcujin92009 1 year ago
@chineseal a chiropractor isn't a TCM practioner, better with science is good for you and your understanding, it works as well when you don't know the scientific reasoning behind it, in TCM it is used for more than just muscle adhesions caused by injuries... it is also caused by any adhesions caused by illness such as a cold, it is common to gua sha the back and chest. don't be so arrogant cause you have some "science" behind it, as a tcm practitioner I'm tired of waiting for science to catchup
MrAcujin92009 1 year ago
my last name is labchuk! and this video was posted on my birthday. sweet science.
bolezhinkov 2 years ago
That's right, it's called gua sha. I can't believe that somebody patented it.
liverqiconstraint 2 years ago
New treatment available? Asians call it Gua Sha...ancient treatment.
Galendore 2 years ago 5