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  • sounds good, I'd say at least a 108 center-line on the cam, whats in there for cam?

  • @Fallraptor

    It's a Lunati solid roller, part no. 50103 ... lift is 0.591 int 0.597 exh, and duration is 250 int 259 exh at .050. The LSA is 106, and the ICL is 102.

  • It looks slightly lowed. Is that just the camera angle or did you do something to the suspension?

  • @rydefixies

    It's lowered a little. It already had coils cut in the front, and I removed a leaf and shortened another one in the rear. It's in the process of getting the pro-touring treatment. I'm planning on QA1 and DSE suspension next.

  • Hell's camaro!!

  • Open headers?

  • @21YamahaRacing21

    No. It's got Hooker Super Comp 1.875" headers w/ 3.5" collectors, 3.5" pipes, 3.5" Borla Top Sportsman (XR1) race mufflers, and 3.5" turn-downs at the rear.

  • @70camaro406 wow sounds awesome. im picking up a 406 to build for my 3rd gen. not sure on exhaust yet

  • There is absolutely NO reason why anything should sound this beautiful. My goodness, man -what an absolutely perfect sound. Nice job, and beautiful car. I know you're proud of that jewel.

  • @shift808

    Thanks! And yes, I am...I just hope it sounds just as brutal with the new cam and exhaust that it's going to get when I put it back on the road. It should, though.

  • @70camaro406 : So when are you gonna upload some vid's of your Camaro getting re-done? How is that project coming along??

  • @bmfx1

    Right now it's just the body on a rotisserie...nothing too exciting. I'm hoping to get it stripped, replace the tail panel, and get it into primer by this fall.

  • @70camaro406

    Cool, I wish I could say I was that far along on my 71 camaro, it's still sitting. Have to finish putting together my 67 chevy pickup before I start on my camaro. Soon hopefully. I was looking at using that 'EZ-EFI' fuel injection setup, ever heard any bad feed back on that system?

  • @70camaro406 compliment!!!!!! sound very very very good .top speed?

  • @alessandro78s4

    Thanks! With the 4.10's, it was going through the traps at 121-122mph at around 6500 rpms.

  • havent drooled so much since i was a baby.....

  • Does that camshaft require a bronze drive gear for the dist.?

  • @bmfx1

    Yeah, a solid roller requires a bronze gear, or composite, which is what I have...a Comp Cams #12140, Composite, Carbon Ultra-Poly gear, at $110. They don't wear out like the bronze ones do.

  • @70camaro406 Oh cool, I didn't know they made anything better than the bronze one, I'll have to get one of those for my camaro. How long does a bronze one usually last? I have one in my 67 Chevy pickup but I haven't checked it since I put that engine together back in 02'.

    Which distributor are you using?

  • @bmfx1

    I'm not sure how long they normally last, but if you run it on the street, they'll wear out faster, that's why I went with the poly gear. I'm running the MSD 85551 Pro-Billet distributor with magnetic trigger and mechanical advance, with the springs and weights set so the timing if fully advanced by 2000 rpms.

  • @Mr420fighter A 406 is a 400 bored .30 over I think.

    -Right it is, but it also has 350 rods if I'm not mistaken.

  • @bmfx1

    You both are right. A stock 400 has 4.125" bore and 3.75" stroke with 5.565" rods. An average 406, like mine, has 4.155" bore, 3.75" stroke, and 5.7" rods...however, the size of the rod doesn't change anything as far as size, it just helps in the piston dwell and side-to-side movement during the cycle. The piston pins are located higher up for the longer rods.

  • Man that thing sounds awesome. What elevation are you at? I may have to tune my carb like yours.

  • what lift is that camshaft

  • @chevypower406

    It's a Lunati solid roller, part no. 50103 ... lift is 0.591 int 0.597 exh, and duration is 250 int 259 exh at .050.

  • ive always wondered what a 406 was originally bored from?

  • @Mr420fighter A 406 is a 400 bored .30 over I think.

  • THANKS MAN FOR THE INFO I PUT A 3.5 IN TODAY REALLY HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TUNE ON IT YET CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR MIXTURE SCREWS ARE SET AT MINE ARE 1 TURN FRONT 1 TURN REAR .. MAN YOUR CAR RESPONDS VERY WELL THANKS RICK

  • DO YOU HAVE A DOUBLE PUMPER AND DO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE FRONT AND REAR POWER VALVE I HAVE A 650 DBL PUMPER 82651 HP SERIES CARB WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING THAT THING SOUNDS AWSOME THANKS RICK I THINK MINE NEEDS A 3.5 ALSO ITS 7 INCHES OF VAC AT IDLE

  • @1967nova1

    I'm running a Holley 830 Chokeless race carb, 3.5 power valve in the front, block off in the back, 30cc accelerator pump in the front and 50cc in the back, 76 jets in the front and 86 jets in the back, and #31 squirters front and back. Having the right power valve will make a big difference in slow speed drivability. It made mine easier to drive around town. Sounds like you could use a 3.5 too.

  • DID YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE POWER VALVE IF SO WHAT SIZE POWER VALVE

  • @1967nova1

    I put in a 3.5 power valve.

  • what kind of timing are you running with 93 and 10.8? I was scared with 9.8, but with iron sportsman ll's and 42 degrees, does aluminum make that much difference for spark knock

  • @MrFatalitee

    36 degrees total, all in by 2000 rpms. Never had any pinging, and never had to adjust the timing since installed.

  • that idle is scary

  • how much did you pay for the exhaust on your car

  • @fourwheelerjock

    Between the headers, mufflers and the pipes and hangers, a little over $1k

  • u can tell she has a solid just by hearing it. nice car.

  • That sounds brutal! Clicked on the link & my face just lit up with a big smile at the sound of that engine....and I'm 35 !!! Brilliant....Trouble is though...now I want one too!!

  • set up for a pro street huh

  • frisky thing man. nice car. love to have that

  • thats sooooooooo nice, what a gorgeous sound!

  • i like this, it sounds nice

  • I'm running 40 series flowmasters on my 406 with 3" and crossover. Your Borla mufflers sound better.

  • Nice!!! There goes a gallon of gas!!! gotta love it!!!

  • what cam your running?

  • @anberlinftw1

    Lunati solid roller, #50103...specs are 15 or so posts below.

  • i get off to that sound, i wish my girlfirend could make that sound, haha awsome car man. ill be puttn either a 383 stroker or a 400 sbc in my elcamino with hopes of that sound.

  • beautiful car awesome lopey cam, What more could you want!

  • woooow.... lucky bastard, sounds beautiful!!!!

  • Ok thanks mom. I think you know what I meant

  • Nice idol. Sounds great

  • "Idol" ?

  • @gullf1sk Ya it has a nice lope in the cam

  • You mean "Idle"?

  • @gullf1sk YES! Wow are you alittle slow on pickin stuff up?

  • Hehe, no. Not when people use the correct words for what they mean.

    "Idol" as you said, has nothing to do with "Idle". :)

  • yeah, i knew it had a heavy overlap. thats deffinately a killer torque cam, but not good for blowers at all. the charge will bounce right out the exhaust with a 106 overlap. but DAMN it sounds sweet! i might not put a blower on it, still debating.

    might see what i can do with engine right now. i wanna go with the c400 heads from john kaase. they flow 400 cfm at max lift. those are sick numbers..hence the blower. i have yer email saved..i will check it out from time to time while in iraq..

  • im not building it till i get home anyway...

  • thats good, but i need to dig up the overlap. i am thinking blower and you need a higher lsa for that..

    this sounds like a beat tho, no doubt about it.

  • Here's the Ford Clev cam that's similar from Lunati:

    Solid roller, rough Idle. Good cam for high performance street, oval track, mud bog or bracket racing applications. Has excellent valve train life. Needs 3500-4000 RPM stall converter, headers, 10:1 compression ratio or better and 3.90 gearing or better.

    -Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 290/300

    -Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .641/.641

    -LSA: 106

    -RPM Range: 3000-7500

    -Includes: Cam Only

    -Part Number: 511A3LUN

  • Got plans to run a 91 camaro with a 406 stroker with mild lift .515 roller rockers lunati cam scat crank forged i beams on a 5 speed so I like lunati like this camaro and I tell u they really open up a engine. Going with big duration eventhough its streetable mainly for top end power she makes great torque

  • whats yer overlap on that cam? i am trying to match a good lsa with duration for a nice lopey idle but more for top end from a 445 Cleveland with 400cfm heads. i want the lope, but i want 1500-6500 poer band. and this sound right here...

  • Run a Lunati wit 276/284 duration .454/.480 lift and 1500-6000 rpm beast on the street I promise u

  • Sorry for the delay...here are all the specs from the Lunati website:

    -Solid roller, rough idle. Good cam for oval track racing on 1/4 - 3/8 mile tracks. Works well in 350-406 cubic inch motors and has strong mid-range torque and horsepower.

    -Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 282/294

    -Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 250/259

    -Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .591/.597

    -LSA/ICL: 106/102

    -Valve Lash (Int/Exh): .018/.020

    -RPM Range: 3600-7000

    -Includes: Cam Only

    -Part Number: 50103

  • did you have to do alot of piston clearancing for the cam. i got a 415 stroker in my malibu and looking to step up the cam

  • @waytofast79

    It didn't need any piston clearancing. I have flat top pistons with 5.7 rods. The cam is a Lunati solid roller # 50103...Int-0.591" Ex-0.597" with duration at 0.050 at 250 259...This cam works great with these heads. I'd give Lunati a call and see what they recommend. They picked this one out for me.

  • does that super vic seem to work off the line good with your combo? did you have it port matched?

  • It works well right off idle. I bolted it on right out of the box. It matched really close to the 1206 gaskets already.

  • oh ok sweet im building a 406 thats just like the one in your maro thats going in my third gen.. yours sounds pretty dang stout.. great job! cant wait to see it in its pro-touring form

  • is that open header?

  • No, it has 1 7/8" headers, 3 1/2" exhaust pipes with 3 1/2" Borla XR1 race mufflers and 3 1/2" turndowns.

  • ive got an 83 z28 and its got an 350, 272 deg dur int/exh, and a .454 int/exh how would you recommend to get that hp and sound for mine?

  • Get Aluminum ported heads, nice intake manifold, quality headers, mild cam and lifters, and some flowmaster 40's.

  • Compression Compression Compression!!!

  • holy shit now thats an awesome car...what a beast!.. awesome . something you can be proud of

  • 210's are great for anything up to a 427 or so. they can support 550 horsepower easy out of the box.  227's are best for at least a 427 and strictly racing. they would be a real dog on the street below like 3500 rpm with an engine under 400 inches

  • Thanks I think I'll plumb for the new AFR 220s, They have 2.10 valves like the 227's but standard valve spacing like the 195's and 210's

    Cheers.

  • Nice Camaro. Whats thw low end grunt/torque like with the 210's on the 406. I'm condidering 210's but if there is still pleanty of power below 3000 rpm then I may opt for the 227's?

    5 stars for the car!!!!!!

  • Thanks.

    About the power below 3000? Honestly, I don't know...I've only had the car on the road with a TH350 and a 4000 stall converter. Cruising, it felt torquey, but whenever I mashed the gas, the converter would stall around 4k and it would accelerate from there.

    My plan is to put a Magnum T-56 6 spd behind this engine just the way it is. It should have sufficient power down low...my Desktop Dyno shows over 400 ft lbs of torque as low as 2500 rpms. If it's a street motor, then go 210's.

  • Thanks again. I'll take your advice. What do you think about the new AFR 220's? My application is blown with a Procharger F1C and 3000rpm stall. I had a 355 with the same blower and AFR 195's. It was great but I don't want to loose that low end grunt when I change upto a 406.

  • The 220's look great too. Since you're running a supercharger, it's probably not a bad idea. I can tell you though, on my combo, it revs harder and higher than any of my friend's 406's, except for my Dad's, who is running the AFR 227's.

  • Very nice Camaro you have!!! Love the rumpity sound of a Solid Roller Camshaft!!!!!

  • Hey man car sounds sweet! What kind of Heads and Intake u runnin??

  • Thanks. AFR #1103, 210cc runner, 100% cnc'd, 2.08 int, 1.60 exh valves. And the intake is an out-of-the-box Edelbrock Super Victor with a 2" open spacer.

  • What type of mufflers do you have? Are those dumps? Manufacturer,size, etc.

    Its music to my ears... great job.

  • Borla XR-1 race mufflers, 3.5", # 40945...with 3.5" Flowmaster turndowns at 45 degrees.

  • I keep coming back for more. That thing sounds Soooo PISSA !!!!.. Cant wait to see it in Pro Touring Trim. I wanna do one in a Trans-Am format. Set it up for Road racing... Damm that thing is killer... Good Job!

  • Thanks!

  • Nice, what exactly are Flowmaster turndowns? Basically you have Borla exhaust if I am reading this correctly.

  • Sort of...here are the parts and Summit part numbers...the headers are Hooker Super Comps 1 7/8" (2239-1HKR), the exhaust pipes are 3.5" x 4' ( SUM-640035), the mufflers are Borla XR1 race mufflers 3.5" (BOR-40945), and the turndowns are 3.5" ones from Flowmaster (I like their style better) (FLO-T3535). exhaust totalled over $1k). Although I liked how it sounded, for my pro-touring build, I'm going to put a full 3" exhaust with x-pipe and Dynomax Ultra-flo's on it next.

  • great !

  • hey have you ever had that at the track?

  • Yeah, the best run was an 11.05 @ 120.9, with a 1.509 60'. That was pump gas, with air cleaner and mufflers, M/T drag radials, and during the month of August, '07. It's on a rotisserie right now getting restored....into a pro-touring car.

  • What a monster

  • Mine had the Comp 500/300. Man I wish I still had it. Thanks for posting!

  • That Thing KICKS ASS !!!!

  • Damm SON!! I had a 1973 in high school with a Comp Cams 292 Hydrolic grind. SOM DA Moe Bitch if that thing dont sound TUFF. Well Done !!!.

  • Camaro sounds killer! I'm just putting a 572 Chevy 620 HP/ 650 fLbs torque Rat in my 67 Cutlass. Will get some video on soon.

  • Sounds freaking awesome!

    I have the AFR 220's with a huge solid-roller CamMotion cam and cannot wait to start it up...

  • bad ass

  • <3 !

  • awsome sound

  • Please make more, longer vids. That is thee MOST amazing sounding muscle car ever.

  • from the bare block to the carb, with all machine work....I'd say about $5700

  • sounds great

  • Thanks.

  • ha fatto la minkiata!

  • ???

  • What are the specs on the internals?

  • Nothing exotic...Scat 9000 crank (3.75"), Wheeler Sportsman Lite rods (5.7"), Badger hypereutectic flat-top pistons (10.8 w/ 64cc), Lunati solid roller 50103---0.591-0.597 lift, 250 259 dur @ 0.050, AFR 210 comp ported - 100% cnc'd, 2.08 1.60 valves with 66cc chambers, stud girdle, and Miller PVS 1.6 roller rockers.

  • what intake are you running? have you taken it to the track?

  • It's got an Edelbrock Super Victor with a 2" open spacer

  • The best time I got from it was an 11.05 @ 120.9, with a 1.509 60ft. That was with pump gas, air cleaner in place, M/T drag radials, and 85 degree weather. The last time I took it to the track, the weather was in the upper 40's (November), and traction was crap...I ended up breaking an axle due to the tires scratching for traction. They grabbed, spun, then grabbed again...that happened every run, and let go on the 5th run that day.

    The car is currently being rebuilt into a pro-touring car.

  • Sorry to disappoint, but it runs straight pump gas, 93 octane.

  • Brutal ! :D

  • sweet car sounds monster

  • SO SAVAGE!!! love it!

  • sounds mad!!!

  • no, you cant. solid rollers are way more agressive, they pull the intake off the seat a lot quicker, have more duration at .020, all of which contributes to more area under the curve, which translates into more power.

  • i think i just came in my pants

  • I swear im going to make my crown vic sound like this one day hahaha

  • sexy ass :)

  • just beautiful car....and sound !!!

  • thats the best sounding car on you tube!! Just added it to favorites.

  • Thanks for the compliment.

  • Always thought borlas were overpriced, but that is an awesome sound.

  • after listening a few times your video i thing i prefere your sound of mufller than my flowmasters super 44. what type of borla muffler you have? tanks

  • It's their Top Sportsman...now called XR-1 Race muffler, in 3 1/2" size...the number is BOR-40945.

  • Why so big for the size of the pipes? isnt that a little to big for a v8?lol

  • It was set up for street/strip and I didn't want any backpressure, plus my dad had the same exhaust on his Nova, and I liked the way it sounded. The next exhaust, however, will be a full 3" w/ x pipe and Dynomax Ultra-Flo's.

  • That will wake the neghbours, right?

  • Nasty. Just added it to our favorites.

  • Cool, thanks. It's the 50103 solid roller. I love it.

  • god that camaro sounds amazing i Love it

  • My god that is beautiful. Nice cam, really sounds mean, great exhaust sound too

  • That's one mean sounding camaro

  • amazing sound man what size cam do you have

  • With the 1.6 rockers, it's .630 .637 lift, 250 259 dur @ .050, 106 CL 102 LS.

  • the roller cam is that what gives it that quick rev

  • Actually, what gives a good fast rev is 1. a really lightweight rotating assembly, or 2. really good volumetric efficiency, both coupled with a really good tuning on the carb. Roller cam just reduces friction a small amount, not the cause of a quick rev.

  • intake centerline has a great effect, along with lobe separation. the rotating mass has the biggest effect. less weight is less inertia. will rev up quick and come back to idle fast

  • ooh my God

  • dude i love this car were did you get it i would like to buy one

  • sounds mean

  • i want a muscle car when you here those things take off you get an Adrenalin rush!

  • NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • marshallman dosent have a clue and probably drives n races a prius lmao

  • with that engine and a good body condition around 20.000 dollars

  • Great car, excellent sound. I was wondering, how much does a car like this cost novadays?

  • soundz like a marching band playing sweet...

  • hey man it sounds a little flat and its mid range when you rev it just dosent sound strong enough or at least to its full potential, it may just be the video but thats my opinion.

  • It does sound different on this video as it does in person. I took the video with a Kodak Easyshare digital camera, so it's a pretty basic vid. The car is healthy enough to run low 11's...with a best of 11.05 at 121, in the same tune as the video.

    Listen to it in my other videos, I rev it much higher in those.

  • how did u record with sound on ur camera i cant figure that out on my easyshare CD1013

  • Sounds good

  • cool sound!

  • It sounds good

  • Thanks.

  • How much horsepower do you think it has?

  • between 500-550. It's been 11.05 @ 121 with a 1.509 60'.

  • What kind of compression are you running. I've got a 18 degree 358 with a mild 9.5:1

  • 10.5:1 compression. I run pump 92 or 93.

  • At the time, I was looking at all-out performance. But really, if I drove it more than 1,000 miles a year, I'd go hydraulic roller, but since I don't put that many miles on it, I set the lash once a year and forget it. With poly locks and a stud girdle, it's rarely a hair off on lash anyway. I though about changing it, but you're talking another $1,000 to change over to hyd roller. That's okay, it runs too good to change cams. If I did anything, I'd go to an RPM Air-Gap intake.

  • i have 1 of them air gaps on my 78 camaro 454..love it

  • When you gonna smoke them up. Ive been seeing all your videos. My uncle has a 70 with about 600 hp. They are nice cars.

  • Sends shivers up my spine. I jump everytime i hear it rev even tho i know its coming. Nice car.

    I entered a raffle to with a 1968, so im watchin vids getting my hopes up. Wish me luck :) .

  • Man this car sounds hungry for some rice lol... sounds awesome..

  • oh ok thanks i was just wondering i have a 407 big block it is a 396 bored 60 out

  • 406 big block or small block?

  • Small block. It's 400 bored .030 over.

  • you got my old school wheels!

  • They are stock 2nd gen Z28 wheels with 255/60-15's inback, and 245/60-15's in front. My other video shows it with the Weld wheels and 275/60-15 M/T Drag Radials.