Orang Sarawak tak perlu PR. Org sarawak tak payah Anwar Ibrahim. Org Sarawak sangat2 memerlukan Taib Mahmud. Org Sarawak sangat2 memerlukan BN. Sebeb utamanya tanpa mereka rakyat Sarawak tidak akan menikmati rasa dan keadaan kemiskinan yg sebenarnya, harga petrol minyak dan barang makanan semuanya mahal2 belaka. Rakyat Sarawak suka hidup miskin, anak kita pi Khidmat Negara dan mati di sana kerejaan pusat bg kat kita duit dan saudara kita pi kat pejabat sprm, kemudian mati kt sana.
orang sarawak inilah masanya untuk mengobah malaysia.. malaysia adalah harapan dunia untuk melihat dunia menjadi lebih aman dan tenteram bermul dari malaysia.
Change Sarawak, say no to BN no to Corruption, vote for Pakatan Rakyat. Let Sarawak to be one of the leading state in Malaysia, just like Penang, Selangor, Kedah, Kelantan, even Perak (curi by BN later), run by DAP, PKR and PAS..
Enough BN...CHANGE to Better life, Say YES to Pakatan Rakyat..
Jika bgitu,mknanya kita dh tau org tu akn syirikkan jika diberi kebenaran guna Allah.Tp kita benarkan,dan kemudian nnt kita akn selamatkan sbb tggung jwp kita,.
Mengapa kita x sekat sj dari awal sblum Allah disyirikkan oleh org yg mmg kita tau xkn puas slagi kita x ikot mereka(kafirun)(continue to E)
@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan C
(pendapat sy)
Jika sy tidak salah faham dgn komen saudara.adakah saudara bermaksud kan, "Tak apa jika kafirun nk guna Allah,mereka silap pon x apa,tp tanggungjwp kita lah nk betol kan?"
@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan B (sambungan komen tuan.
--->insyaAllah tidak akan sesat. mmg org kafir x akan redha dgn Islam selagi org Islam x ikut mrk.hk org Islam utk curiga sbb itupn perntah Allah.ttp curiga Nabi pn ada tggungjwbnya.mrk guna namaNya & Nabi usaha dkwah betulkn iman mrk trhdapNya.moga kita amik iktibar
@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan A-->betul.sbb itu mazhab yg empat pn tidak menyalahkan satu sama lain malah brbincanglg pandangan2 masing itu dlm perlaksanaan syarak. yg penting, jika berlaku perselisihan baliklah kpd yg asal Allah & rasul (alquran & sunnah).
2)Jd jika mmbenarkan pnggunaan kembali Allah dlm kitab lain,ini seumpama kita merestui kembali apa yg sudah di pesongkan dlm injil dan lain2 kitab sblm Qoran.
Tp...xpa lah...mudah2an kita suma di jalan yg 1..yg Allah takkan murka walau apa pon pndpt kita..krana niat kita jujur dan ikhlas krana Allah
@champion2020 ini bukan pasal anwar or prof harun din or org lain. dalilnya juga jelas. knapa kita prlu dgkalkan fikiran kita dgn menympitkn Islam. letakkan alquran & sunnah pd tmptnya bukn pd mana kita fikir kita suka/tak suka.tidak salah jika tuan sependapat dgn prof harun din ttp tidak lyak juga tuan mnyalahkn org lain sbb kedua2 mereka bersandarkn usuluddin bukan pndgan sendiri. moga Allah bg kita faham..amin
@champion2020 alhamdulillah sudah..sbb itu bg saya pndapat harun din adalah defensive (pndangan org concern dgn iman org Islam ) yg tidak juga salah. 1) jgn politikkan hal hak guna nama 'Allah'. sbb haknya sbg 'nama' juga ada hujahnya. 2)jika Nabi juga benarkn org kafir guna 'Allah' sdgkn merka belum dpt hidayah takkan kita nk jatuh hukum Nabi (saw) kafir juga..nauzubillah. sbb itu kena hati2. jk Islam benarkn kita sokong kebenaran Islam bukn sbb sokong depa. letakkan hak Islam pd tmptnya=adil
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Australian society values equality of opportunity for individuals, regardless of their race, religion or ethnic background- difference from 1malaysia concept??
we malaysia will give 2/3 seat in parliment if you give us are policy anti corruption body the best in the world give if you give are anti corruption we will give the mandate for at lees 3 term
@cheahwilliam1980 hi william. yes muslim cant hold d christians from using Allah as reference to God. i presume u r a believer in Christ. if i am right, i have seen this video ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo and perhaps u can comment..is Allah really d God d Christian believes. if u r not Christian..this msg is my mistake. sorry. just to share
@cheahwilliam1980 Allah is Allah. we intrepreted Him differently. that was my whole point. I suppose if u r a christian believer ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo is a good ref bcoz they debated on d same level. it's not about race whtsoever. if u r not Christian..this msg is my mistake. sorry. ignore me..
@javabeserk :Allah means God, God means Allah. What is the different interpretation ? Christian say Allah refer to God = Creator, Muslim says Allah refer to God = Creator...
@cheahwilliam1980 i wonder where do u put Allah with Jesus. Allah in Islam is alone, he does not beget nor He is begotten. if your Allah begets that is totally a different interpretation from d Muslim's..becoz instead of He is d creator, d christian Allah also begets thus had son..am i wrong?
@cheahwilliam1980 indeed. Allah is the Creator. er..then how do u refer to Jesus..? In Muslim d Creator=One & only, in christian is d 'Creator' = 3 in one/one in 3 maybe? can u clarify pls..
@cheahwilliam1980 i read it but i stopped bc 1 found d concept of god is so miserable.i also asked this frm the learned man in comparative religion & they explained d same. worse was Allah begets a son via Mary (a human). just to make Him among human to pardon sins of mankind. is that true? did Allah have go to that extreme just to show he was d creator & forgiver? err..so u said Jesus died, who was he? is it true Jesus was Allah's son..of perhaps similar to Islam, he was his prophet?
@javabeserk Why u arguing he is son of God?? Why you not understand his teaching ??? Put ur eyes in different way. dun b stubborn..Jesus loves you.
In Alquran Al-Baqarah 2:87 And We gave Moses the Book, and after him We sent the messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, the clear proofs, and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your souls do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill!
@cheahwilliam1980 are we talking about Allah as god d creator or Jesus teaching? Al-Baqarah 2:87 is about d Allah's prophet Jesus & not about Allah himself. i put your focus back to d root of d discussion. do u believe Allah's got a son name Jesus (a human)? or u believe Allah just like d muslims believe? if u believe in d latter, then we hve no different interpretation. if u believe in d former, u might need to comment on this ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo.btw why d bible originator reject use of 'Allah'?
@javabeserk haha...how can u add prophet in the phrase as u like...funny la you. U try to change the Al-Quran?
As i said to you, human may got many interpretation. They will say this is my God and tat is my God...but in fact Christian n Muslim understand oni one God which is "Allah" the creator.
@cheahwilliam1980 lol..r u tryng to cherry pick d quran? check this out, Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (quran 5:75). so, does your Allah got a son name Jesus (a human)? or u believe Allah like d muslims do ie Allah is alone Jesus's His prophet?
@javabeserk haha...how can u add "prophet" in the phrase as u like...funny la you. U try to change the Al-Quran?
As i said to you, human may got many interpretation. They will say this is my God and tat is my God...but in fact Christian n Muslim understand oni one God which is "Allah" the creator.
@cheahwilliam1980 contd..indeed Allah is the creator of the heaven & d earth. but dont assume muslim's Allah is d same like yours 'Allah' .simply becoz Allah does not beget nor he is begotten. but yours He had son who died & resurrected. btw why d bible originator reject d use of 'Allah' while d followers like yourself insist to use it though knowing Allah is nowhere in d original bible of d orthodoxy or d roman?
@javabeserk Joke...!!! i like you ..U r so smart..i need to learn from you. at last, u admitted Allah is creator the world and heaven for Muslim and Christian.
The Allah issue was raised because in Indonesia version or in Bahasa Malaysia version...No because in English version or Chinese version..English version they use God....In chinese version they use 上帝.
@cheahwilliam1980 i hve no right to stop even d pagan to use 'Allah' as reference to their god. since u r a msian christian i asked u why not even d original version which was not in english but hebrew & greek. did not refer jesus father as 'Allah' hence even rejected d idea. it's clear now tht ur 'Allah' is different frm d muslim's becoz ur 'Allah' as god did beget via Mary to have a 'son'. who is Jesus btw, was he an 'Allah' too in human form? i'm confused a bit..sorry.
@javabeserk U r wrong, we did not refer Jesus as father...we refer Jesus as God's Word.. Jesus is the TRUTH, the Way and the life no one can go to Father accept thru him.
Thank you for ur understanding not stop us as human using "Allah"... u r so nice..May God bless you in Jesus name I pray. :)
@cheahwilliam1980 so did muslims refer Moses as Allah's word before Jesus (pbuh) who continued his predecessor's in Allah's name and Muhammad (pbuh) afterwards as Allah's last messenger..may Allah show us the right path in His name i pray and dont let us astray. amin. tq
@javabeserk God found favor in Abraham because of his strong faith and believed in God and not bcos thru laws. After Moses lead israelites escape from egypt, God gave many laws to Isrealites thru Moses .
@cheahwilliam1980 finally, u clarify Moses's relation to Allah.tq. my answers 1 - high concentrated fat (lard) 2- harmful 3-modesty 5-cleanliness coz aftr pee we wash d part where our urine squirt. but still im waiting my earliest question? your Allah mention Jesus his son mentioned in ur bible (d trinity). Did your Allah beget to deliver his word to mankind?..
@javabeserk U mean those din circumcise is dirty..? How can u say so? even no circumcise, they can still wash it very clean..wat kind of harmful u mentioned?..
Allah occur in the bible also is urs Allah.....u should understand the word of Allah..u go n read the bible ur self....im not ur eyes ur ear, ur nose, ur brain...
Moses's law is for Israelites....r u isrealites who is people of God...??
@cheahwilliam1980 it can be washed, but do u wash it under d skin or do u wash at all after u peed. alcohol is harmful..it's like a fag. once u adapt to it..u can hardly leave it. not to say statistically sane people become insane when they r intoxicated..no? i bet u already watched this y=JcMzHgq2zRo .it was a fair debate yet u seem to distance urself frm it. i inderstand the word but Allah 4 muslims doesnt beget so yours is different. I'm a muslim Israelites were d generation b4 me.
@javabeserk U teach the law that made by human...so u circumcise bcos of ur dirty pees ??? so wat else the purpose ??
Every made food and drink are harmful if we consume uncontrol..we r not beast..not everyone after drink he/she will become insane..so please dun conclude that u r holy others r evil.
I nvr distance myself to understand Al-Quran, buddhist...even i read their books to understand, visit mosque, temple...how about u..do you study the Jesus's teaching??
@cheahwilliam1980 circumcision is for hygienic sake is good enough. can u compare it to your's with skin on. muslims wash it every time aftr we pee ..do u? :P on consumption we have even a good ettiquete about it. we r asked by our prophet, 'eat when u feel hungry and stop b4 u r full'. on food, pigs hi concentrated lard,alcohol is intoxicating so?evilvsholy? that's your conclusion not mine. we have halal(allowed) @ haram(prohibited). contd..
@javabeserk Do you believe that u have been brain wash to do i t?? Please think about it...
Many people nvr circumcise but they can keep it clean also...Thus, please dun do such chirldish act to show tat u r very clean or holy...wat for if u circumcise but still Sin....like Mr Bin Ladin ;P he circumcised n people said he is very Islamic but still kill innocent n shred innocent blood...
@cheahwilliam1980 pls.can u come with better rationale than tht last ditched 'brainwashing' thing. i can say everyone is 'brainwashed' too u know + u too.lol. indeed, many can keep themselves clean but practically can they do it every time after they pee?i can, can u peel ur skin every time? circumcision is related to cleanliness, i didnt say 'sinned'. it's your word & d word 'holy' 2 r yours, no? dont avoid d subject, i cant compare bin laden to Bush who legalized invasion + killing more can i?
@cheahwilliam1980 u r not islamic, why cant u? 4 muslims other thn pork & dog meat are ok as long as they are served in halal ways. pls google halal food 4 more. pee..not exactly, earlier i said one of d reasons is 4 cleanliness not holiness..he he.veil is d command of Allah. 4 us it is d sign of modesty. loyalty to husband has nothing to do with veil..1 good reason was given in this video too..ytube=LLefQDMoFdg. enjoy!
@javabeserk@javabeserk thanks for the video...i hope tat muslim believer dun JUST simply listen to Uztaz. most of them not read Al-quran thruroughtly..Which verse u say woman must wear veil?
Cleanliness for wat? u mean u r the cleaniness in the world n others are dirty? how dare u said tat.
God created things are good..how dare u say food is unclean n need to b halal?? U try to segregate urself with others people...Jesus shred his blood for us n he die n raise again....How about ur opinion?
@cheahwilliam1980 muslim listen to learn too. veil..pls read (Quran 7:26,24:31,Quran 33:59). more also frm the hadith of prophet (pbuh). see..muslims pray 5x a day thus we must keep oureselves clean onsistently. thet's why we wash after everytime we use d toilet.'dirtiness' is ur wrd dont put it on me. i asked, do u consistently wash after u pee esp with d skin on?halal vs clean concept..u r confused. pls read google halal again.segregate?when?.jesus blood..good. watch y=7JzDj_HfIMk pls?
@javabeserk Yes i know u r the holy people in the World. :) Peace Jesus love you inportant dun control woman by such stupid act....woman r wonderful n has the right to speak up as well
@cheahwilliam1980 i did answer ur q? didnt i? hve u answered mine yet? contrl woman?..lol. tell me which part of islamic sources can u prove islam control woman. perhaps i can anser ur q?..hows that?..u r looking 4 d truth yes?..
@javabeserk 1) Why woman muct wear veil ? 2) Y u cannot eat pork. 3) Y cannot touch Dog? 4) Y man can marry 4 but woman cannot marry 4? 5) How many books u refer to? Then possible another book will come out? 6) Y u fasting? n y when fasting u need to tell the world u r fasting? 7) Circumcise for ur pees oni? 8) y u pray 5 times a day? 9) Y got Jihad n for wat? 10) y teaching so many practices n nvr spread love? 11) Y when a gal n guy dating they got caught? 12) Y malay must be Islam?
@cheahwilliam1980 wht r u trying to pull here? dont be so dodgy my friend.i asnwerd 4 of your questions remember? u have answered me none.r u a just christian or an evil one? so it's ur turn to answer, start with this 1-your Allah mention Jesus his son mentioned in ur bible (d trinity). Did your Allah beget to deliver his word to mankind?..u still owe me three..ahak2
@cheahwilliam1980 i never distance to any religion bcoz i like to learn & think. i watched this y=JcMzHgq2zRo bcoz i wanted to see how christians think about their Jesus as 'God' & 'father' figure who u claimed as 'Allah'..d muslim guy who indeed a scholar in d bible had put many bible quotation in rational perspective while d christian's side seemed fail to make their stand reasonably..so does your 'Allah' beget? can u reason with that? perhaps..u can clarify..
There were no racial problems in Sarawak before formation of Malaysia, inter marriages were common. If Sarawakan now conscious of racial and religious divides, they learned it from UMNO. There were no repressive laws, no quarrelling over Allah, over dead bodies. Meritocracy was practiced and the composition of civil services was multiracial. Corruption and “ketuanan Melayu” were unheard of, and the undesirable list continues. How not to miss pre-Malaysia days? Vote for changes!!!!!
mcmni,Allah yg muslim guna ialah dinyatakan dgn sifat2 Allah yg muslim tau jika ditukar sifatnya,adalah kufur org tersebut,Allah tidak boleh sama sifatnya dgn jesus yg ada tuhan anak dan mak,tiada konsep trinity dlm sifat Allah.sbb itu jika diizin penggunaannya ,ia bakal mengelirukan ramai org islam dan bkn islam.
cari la penjelasan dari prof harun din,naib penasihat PAS berkenaan isu ini,penerangannya jelas dan lebih tratur.
@champion2020 mmg benar dlm persepsi prof sbg org islam berkenaan iman dgn Allah. realitinya, yg dipersoalkan ialah nama 'Allah' bukan iman org Islam pd Allah. sememangnya x sama iman org islam dgn Allah dgn iman org bukan islam trhadap Allah. nama Allah telahpn digunakan sblum Muhammad (saw) jd nabi lg. hggakan org arab yg bertuhankn berhala pn Nabi redha depa guna 'Allah' sbb kerja nabi bkn betulkn nama itu ttp betulkn iman mrk dgn Allah.oleh itu, nk selamat iman kita, kita kena buat krja Nabi
@champion2020 contd..bila org Islam buat kerja nabi maka insyaAllah iman muslim meningkat & yg bukn Islam akan phm sapa itu Allah sbnarnya.sbb itulah org Arab kuffar sgt risau ttg dakwah nabi sbb Allah yg mereka percaya telah dilenyapkn dgn kebenaran Allah yg nabi bawa. aku rasa lps ini, peluang utk dkwah Islam m'sia kpd kristian khususnya akan lebih baik. sbb dua2 guna nama Allah & bleh buka era dakwah & diskusi antara agama utk sebarkn kebenaran. Allahkn maha benar. brgantung pada kitalah..
Prof berpendirian tidak mngkin golongan kafir ini ingin berbuat kebaikan dgn kalimah ini,selain dari mengelirukan,menghina Allah yg kita faham itu apabila disamakan dgn 3 tuhan mereka.prof kata mereka akn mensyirik kan Allah.dan itu 1 kezaliman yg bsar.
@champion2020 betul.sbb itu mazhab yg empat pn tidak menyalahkan satu sama lain malah brbincanglg pandangan2 masing itu dlm perlaksanaan syarak. yg penting, jika berlaku perselisihan baliklah kpd yg asal Allah & rasul (alquran & sunnah).insyaAllah tidak akan sesat. mmg org kafir x akan redha dgn Islam selagi org Islam x ikut mrk.hk org Islam utk curiga sbb itupn perntah Allah.ttp curiga Nabi pn ada tggungjwbnya.mrk guna namaNya & Nabi usaha dkwah betulkn iman mrk trhdapNya.moga kita amik iktibar
4 people are being f***k in the ass..
lordapekx 7 months ago
jangan ckp bohong nanti rugi oooooooooo............
bal0896 9 months ago
Nicee...i like..
janggutgolong 10 months ago
Mr Java..I ask you a question. Do we from same creator ?? Which we called "Allah".
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
Orang Sarawak tak perlu PR. Org sarawak tak payah Anwar Ibrahim. Org Sarawak sangat2 memerlukan Taib Mahmud. Org Sarawak sangat2 memerlukan BN. Sebeb utamanya tanpa mereka rakyat Sarawak tidak akan menikmati rasa dan keadaan kemiskinan yg sebenarnya, harga petrol minyak dan barang makanan semuanya mahal2 belaka. Rakyat Sarawak suka hidup miskin, anak kita pi Khidmat Negara dan mati di sana kerejaan pusat bg kat kita duit dan saudara kita pi kat pejabat sprm, kemudian mati kt sana.
zakaria2010ize 10 months ago
orang sarawak inilah masanya untuk mengobah malaysia.. malaysia adalah harapan dunia untuk melihat dunia menjadi lebih aman dan tenteram bermul dari malaysia.
TheKalimantang 10 months ago
sokong pkr!!!sokong anwar!!
jmyenz 10 months ago
My dearest Sarawakian, if you still choose the sinful party to be your leader....you deserve to eat shit.
dannydyoh 10 months ago
How can Sarawakeans be poor?
When Sarawak has merely everything.
Open your eyes, be smart & practice your rights.
Prays,
Penangites
skycjj 10 months ago
dear sarawak people..pls change..
nirmalsendro 10 months ago
Change Sarawak, say no to BN no to Corruption, vote for Pakatan Rakyat. Let Sarawak to be one of the leading state in Malaysia, just like Penang, Selangor, Kedah, Kelantan, even Perak (curi by BN later), run by DAP, PKR and PAS..
Enough BN...CHANGE to Better life, Say YES to Pakatan Rakyat..
etkl1 10 months ago
New era, new hope for the people of sarawak.
rhsjye 10 months ago
@javabeserk
Tapi hujah saudara mmng mmbuka minda sy,trima kasih,bru sy fhm apa yg mmbuat kan ada pihak yg berstuju.Trima ksh Saudara.
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk(sambungan)F)Atau kaedah yg sy faham dari Prof Haron Din
1)kita sekat mereka dari teruskan niat tidak ikhlas mereka(sbelum mereka ada peluang menodai kesucian sifat2 Allah)
Pd sy cara Prof Harun Din Sudah skip 1 step yg step itu bakal mengundang bahaya yg puncanya kita yg beri peluang itu .
Jika ingin izinkan mereka guna Allah,mereka wajib stuju "hanya guna Allah pada cara Islam jelaskan,bkn Bible terang kn Allah.
Jika mereka stuju,maka ini sgt dialu alukan. ~n_n
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk(sambungan)E)
Cuba bandingkan jalan yg harus dilalui dari 2 kaedah td..
Kaedah saudara sarankan ialah
1)benarkan mereka gunakan(dan kita tau mreka bakal syirikkan Allah apabila di samakan Allah dgn sifat trinity tuhan mereka)
2)kita pergi dakwah dan betolkan setelah kita yg bg peluang mereka ambil kalimah Allah utk tujuan mereka mensyirikkan Allah.(continue to F)
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk(sambungan)D)
Bgtukah mksud saudara?
Jika bgitu,mknanya kita dh tau org tu akn syirikkan jika diberi kebenaran guna Allah.Tp kita benarkan,dan kemudian nnt kita akn selamatkan sbb tggung jwp kita,.
Mengapa kita x sekat sj dari awal sblum Allah disyirikkan oleh org yg mmg kita tau xkn puas slagi kita x ikot mereka(kafirun)(continue to E)
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan C
(pendapat sy)
Jika sy tidak salah faham dgn komen saudara.adakah saudara bermaksud kan, "Tak apa jika kafirun nk guna Allah,mereka silap pon x apa,tp tanggungjwp kita lah nk betol kan?"
(continue)
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan B (sambungan komen tuan.
--->insyaAllah tidak akan sesat. mmg org kafir x akan redha dgn Islam selagi org Islam x ikut mrk.hk org Islam utk curiga sbb itupn perntah Allah.ttp curiga Nabi pn ada tggungjwbnya.mrk guna namaNya & Nabi usaha dkwah betulkn iman mrk trhdapNya.moga kita amik iktibar
champion2020 10 months ago
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@javabeserk komen saudara ini diberi pd sy.dan sy ingin ulas sedikit jika dizinkan A-->betul.sbb itu mazhab yg empat pn tidak menyalahkan satu sama lain malah brbincanglg pandangan2 masing itu dlm perlaksanaan syarak. yg penting, jika berlaku perselisihan baliklah kpd yg asal Allah & rasul (alquran & sunnah).
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk
2)Jd jika mmbenarkan pnggunaan kembali Allah dlm kitab lain,ini seumpama kita merestui kembali apa yg sudah di pesongkan dlm injil dan lain2 kitab sblm Qoran.
Tp...xpa lah...mudah2an kita suma di jalan yg 1..yg Allah takkan murka walau apa pon pndpt kita..krana niat kita jujur dan ikhlas krana Allah
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk
1)xsilap sy,yg diizinkan guna Allah sblum kedatangan Nabi Muhammad ialah pd msa Injil,taurat , zabur belum lg di ubah kandungannya...
Setelah kafirun ubah kandungan injil dan lain2 kitab.termasok ubah mkna dan sifat Allah.
Pd msa itu kitab2 suci lain tidak lg suci dan Allah turunkan Qoran menegaskan kebenaran yg sudah di ubah dlm kitab suci sblum Qoran..
Benaar mmng sudah ada pgunaan Allah sblum Qoran,tp sbbkan isinya sudah di ubah dari mkna sbnar,Qoran pon turun.
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk sy ingin tegas kan (1)sy bkn pnyokong BN,sy juga suka dgr hujah dari saudara anuar ibrahim.
(2)tp sy harus utamakan kebenaran,saudara anuar juga bisa berbuat kesilapan.
kita harus ikot dia selagi dia ikut cara nabi.
dlm bnyk perkara sy sgt berstuju dgn anuar tp dlm isu kalimah Allah,(3)sy lebih yakin pd pndpt Prof Harun Din.
umar berkata ikuti lah aku selagi mana aku mngikuti cara rasul.(bermakna umar yg hebat juga bisa tersilap dan dia bersedia di betulkan)
champion2020 10 months ago
@champion2020 ini bukan pasal anwar or prof harun din or org lain. dalilnya juga jelas. knapa kita prlu dgkalkan fikiran kita dgn menympitkn Islam. letakkan alquran & sunnah pd tmptnya bukn pd mana kita fikir kita suka/tak suka.tidak salah jika tuan sependapat dgn prof harun din ttp tidak lyak juga tuan mnyalahkn org lain sbb kedua2 mereka bersandarkn usuluddin bukan pndgan sendiri. moga Allah bg kita faham..amin
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk harap saudara rujuk tajuk youtube ini..tp jika saudara masih ingin menyokong penggunaan ini itu hak saudara~tak apa..
1)Fatwa Anwar Ibrahim Lawan Datuk Haron Din
2)Kufur Jika Sokong Guna Kalimah Allah - Dr. Haron Din
champion2020 10 months ago
@champion2020 alhamdulillah sudah..sbb itu bg saya pndapat harun din adalah defensive (pndangan org concern dgn iman org Islam ) yg tidak juga salah. 1) jgn politikkan hal hak guna nama 'Allah'. sbb haknya sbg 'nama' juga ada hujahnya. 2)jika Nabi juga benarkn org kafir guna 'Allah' sdgkn merka belum dpt hidayah takkan kita nk jatuh hukum Nabi (saw) kafir juga..nauzubillah. sbb itu kena hati2. jk Islam benarkn kita sokong kebenaran Islam bukn sbb sokong depa. letakkan hak Islam pd tmptnya=adil
javabeserk 10 months ago
Allah is an arabic word , mean to god
before Mohammad born or Islam form there already start to use allah to mention god.
what the fark is BN doing? trying to make racist politic?
baiboyzzz 10 months ago 2
Fight in FB? what the hell is that! just fight in the election la..i can create hundreds of FB account!
tukaibilam 10 months ago
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Australian society values -respect for the freedom and dignity of the individual, freedom of religion, commitment to the rule of law, Parliamentary democracy, equality of men and women and a spirit of egalitarianism that embraces mutual respect, tolerance, fair play and compassion for those in need and pursuit of the public good.
Australian society values equality of opportunity for individuals, regardless of their race, religion or ethnic background- difference from 1malaysia concept??
antusarawak 10 months ago
he is a DAMN GOOD orator
jasonheng85 10 months ago
PR & BN Supportes, lets fight in Facebook:
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rosmaraful 10 months ago 12
give us the best anti corruption body we malaysia give 2/3 seat in parliment
samsonrow 10 months ago
we malaysia will give 2/3 seat in parliment if you give us are policy anti corruption body the best in the world give if you give are anti corruption we will give the mandate for at lees 3 term
samsonrow 10 months ago
Yeah.bcos u have no idea the God's word.and got no confident. So u like to force people not to used the word 'Allah'..
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 hi william. yes muslim cant hold d christians from using Allah as reference to God. i presume u r a believer in Christ. if i am right, i have seen this video ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo and perhaps u can comment..is Allah really d God d Christian believes. if u r not Christian..this msg is my mistake. sorry. just to share
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk : Do we from same creature which is "Allah"..? Or u got your own presciption that malay muslim from different "Allah"...?
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 Allah is Allah. we intrepreted Him differently. that was my whole point. I suppose if u r a christian believer ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo is a good ref bcoz they debated on d same level. it's not about race whtsoever. if u r not Christian..this msg is my mistake. sorry. ignore me..
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk :Allah means God, God means Allah. What is the different interpretation ? Christian say Allah refer to God = Creator, Muslim says Allah refer to God = Creator...
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 i wonder where do u put Allah with Jesus. Allah in Islam is alone, he does not beget nor He is begotten. if your Allah begets that is totally a different interpretation from d Muslim's..becoz instead of He is d creator, d christian Allah also begets thus had son..am i wrong?
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk I refer "Allah" to God = Creator. In Muslim says Allah = Creator? In Christian says Allah = God = Creator.
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 indeed. Allah is the Creator. er..then how do u refer to Jesus..? In Muslim d Creator=One & only, in christian is d 'Creator' = 3 in one/one in 3 maybe? can u clarify pls..
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk Allah send Jesus for us..after Jesus dead and resurrection and He send Holy Spirit for us..
That is why u never read BIBLE..U should read first only ask question..
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 i read it but i stopped bc 1 found d concept of god is so miserable.i also asked this frm the learned man in comparative religion & they explained d same. worse was Allah begets a son via Mary (a human). just to make Him among human to pardon sins of mankind. is that true? did Allah have go to that extreme just to show he was d creator & forgiver? err..so u said Jesus died, who was he? is it true Jesus was Allah's son..of perhaps similar to Islam, he was his prophet?
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk Why u arguing he is son of God?? Why you not understand his teaching ??? Put ur eyes in different way. dun b stubborn..Jesus loves you.
In Alquran Al-Baqarah 2:87 And We gave Moses the Book, and after him We sent the messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, the clear proofs, and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your souls do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill!
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 are we talking about Allah as god d creator or Jesus teaching? Al-Baqarah 2:87 is about d Allah's prophet Jesus & not about Allah himself. i put your focus back to d root of d discussion. do u believe Allah's got a son name Jesus (a human)? or u believe Allah just like d muslims believe? if u believe in d latter, then we hve no different interpretation. if u believe in d former, u might need to comment on this ytube=JcMzHgq2zRo.btw why d bible originator reject use of 'Allah'?
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk haha...how can u add prophet in the phrase as u like...funny la you. U try to change the Al-Quran?
As i said to you, human may got many interpretation. They will say this is my God and tat is my God...but in fact Christian n Muslim understand oni one God which is "Allah" the creator.
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
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@cheahwilliam1980 lol..r u tryng to cherry pick d quran? check this out, Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (quran 5:75). so, does your Allah got a son name Jesus (a human)? or u believe Allah like d muslims do ie Allah is alone Jesus's His prophet?
javabeserk 10 months ago
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@javabeserk haha...how can u add "prophet" in the phrase as u like...funny la you. U try to change the Al-Quran?
As i said to you, human may got many interpretation. They will say this is my God and tat is my God...but in fact Christian n Muslim understand oni one God which is "Allah" the creator.
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 contd..indeed Allah is the creator of the heaven & d earth. but dont assume muslim's Allah is d same like yours 'Allah' .simply becoz Allah does not beget nor he is begotten. but yours He had son who died & resurrected. btw why d bible originator reject d use of 'Allah' while d followers like yourself insist to use it though knowing Allah is nowhere in d original bible of d orthodoxy or d roman?
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk Joke...!!! i like you ..U r so smart..i need to learn from you. at last, u admitted Allah is creator the world and heaven for Muslim and Christian.
The Allah issue was raised because in Indonesia version or in Bahasa Malaysia version...No because in English version or Chinese version..English version they use God....In chinese version they use 上帝.
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 i hve no right to stop even d pagan to use 'Allah' as reference to their god. since u r a msian christian i asked u why not even d original version which was not in english but hebrew & greek. did not refer jesus father as 'Allah' hence even rejected d idea. it's clear now tht ur 'Allah' is different frm d muslim's becoz ur 'Allah' as god did beget via Mary to have a 'son'. who is Jesus btw, was he an 'Allah' too in human form? i'm confused a bit..sorry.
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk U r wrong, we did not refer Jesus as father...we refer Jesus as God's Word.. Jesus is the TRUTH, the Way and the life no one can go to Father accept thru him.
Thank you for ur understanding not stop us as human using "Allah"... u r so nice..May God bless you in Jesus name I pray. :)
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 so did muslims refer Moses as Allah's word before Jesus (pbuh) who continued his predecessor's in Allah's name and Muhammad (pbuh) afterwards as Allah's last messenger..may Allah show us the right path in His name i pray and dont let us astray. amin. tq
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk God found favor in Abraham because of his strong faith and believed in God and not bcos thru laws. After Moses lead israelites escape from egypt, God gave many laws to Isrealites thru Moses .
U hav been asking me a lot..can i ask u back?
Y muslim cannot eat pork?
Y muslim canot drink alcohol?
Y muslim girl must wear tudung (Veil)?
Y u circumcise?
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 finally, u clarify Moses's relation to Allah.tq. my answers 1 - high concentrated fat (lard) 2- harmful 3-modesty 5-cleanliness coz aftr pee we wash d part where our urine squirt. but still im waiting my earliest question? your Allah mention Jesus his son mentioned in ur bible (d trinity). Did your Allah beget to deliver his word to mankind?..
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk U mean those din circumcise is dirty..? How can u say so? even no circumcise, they can still wash it very clean..wat kind of harmful u mentioned?..
Allah occur in the bible also is urs Allah.....u should understand the word of Allah..u go n read the bible ur self....im not ur eyes ur ear, ur nose, ur brain...
Moses's law is for Israelites....r u isrealites who is people of God...??
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 it can be washed, but do u wash it under d skin or do u wash at all after u peed. alcohol is harmful..it's like a fag. once u adapt to it..u can hardly leave it. not to say statistically sane people become insane when they r intoxicated..no? i bet u already watched this y=JcMzHgq2zRo .it was a fair debate yet u seem to distance urself frm it. i inderstand the word but Allah 4 muslims doesnt beget so yours is different. I'm a muslim Israelites were d generation b4 me.
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk U teach the law that made by human...so u circumcise bcos of ur dirty pees ??? so wat else the purpose ??
Every made food and drink are harmful if we consume uncontrol..we r not beast..not everyone after drink he/she will become insane..so please dun conclude that u r holy others r evil.
I nvr distance myself to understand Al-Quran, buddhist...even i read their books to understand, visit mosque, temple...how about u..do you study the Jesus's teaching??
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 circumcision is for hygienic sake is good enough. can u compare it to your's with skin on. muslims wash it every time aftr we pee ..do u? :P on consumption we have even a good ettiquete about it. we r asked by our prophet, 'eat when u feel hungry and stop b4 u r full'. on food, pigs hi concentrated lard,alcohol is intoxicating so?evilvsholy? that's your conclusion not mine. we have halal(allowed) @ haram(prohibited). contd..
javabeserk 10 months ago
@javabeserk Do you believe that u have been brain wash to do i t?? Please think about it...
Many people nvr circumcise but they can keep it clean also...Thus, please dun do such chirldish act to show tat u r very clean or holy...wat for if u circumcise but still Sin....like Mr Bin Ladin ;P he circumcised n people said he is very Islamic but still kill innocent n shred innocent blood...
cheahwilliam1980 9 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 pls.can u come with better rationale than tht last ditched 'brainwashing' thing. i can say everyone is 'brainwashed' too u know + u too.lol. indeed, many can keep themselves clean but practically can they do it every time after they pee?i can, can u peel ur skin every time? circumcision is related to cleanliness, i didnt say 'sinned'. it's your word & d word 'holy' 2 r yours, no? dont avoid d subject, i cant compare bin laden to Bush who legalized invasion + killing more can i?
javabeserk 9 months ago
@javabeserk Can i eat beef in raw meat..i think beef have no virus same to chicken, duck, mutton..
Now i know it u circumcise bcos of peeeeeeeeeeeeessssss...
So now y woman need put on veil...y dun man blind their own eyes so to show the loyalty to their wife as well....
cheahwilliam1980 9 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 u r not islamic, why cant u? 4 muslims other thn pork & dog meat are ok as long as they are served in halal ways. pls google halal food 4 more. pee..not exactly, earlier i said one of d reasons is 4 cleanliness not holiness..he he.veil is d command of Allah. 4 us it is d sign of modesty. loyalty to husband has nothing to do with veil..1 good reason was given in this video too..ytube=LLefQDMoFdg. enjoy!
javabeserk 9 months ago
@javabeserk @javabeserk thanks for the video...i hope tat muslim believer dun JUST simply listen to Uztaz. most of them not read Al-quran thruroughtly..Which verse u say woman must wear veil?
Cleanliness for wat? u mean u r the cleaniness in the world n others are dirty? how dare u said tat.
God created things are good..how dare u say food is unclean n need to b halal?? U try to segregate urself with others people...Jesus shred his blood for us n he die n raise again....How about ur opinion?
cheahwilliam1980 9 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 muslim listen to learn too. veil..pls read (Quran 7:26,24:31,Quran 33:59). more also frm the hadith of prophet (pbuh). see..muslims pray 5x a day thus we must keep oureselves clean onsistently. thet's why we wash after everytime we use d toilet.'dirtiness' is ur wrd dont put it on me. i asked, do u consistently wash after u pee esp with d skin on?halal vs clean concept..u r confused. pls read google halal again.segregate?when?.jesus blood..good. watch y=7JzDj_HfIMk pls?
javabeserk 9 months ago
@javabeserk Yes i know u r the holy people in the World. :) Peace Jesus love you inportant dun control woman by such stupid act....woman r wonderful n has the right to speak up as well
cheahwilliam1980 9 months ago
@cheahwilliam1980 i did answer ur q? didnt i? hve u answered mine yet? contrl woman?..lol. tell me which part of islamic sources can u prove islam control woman. perhaps i can anser ur q?..hows that?..u r looking 4 d truth yes?..
javabeserk 9 months ago
@javabeserk 1) Why woman muct wear veil ? 2) Y u cannot eat pork. 3) Y cannot touch Dog? 4) Y man can marry 4 but woman cannot marry 4? 5) How many books u refer to? Then possible another book will come out? 6) Y u fasting? n y when fasting u need to tell the world u r fasting? 7) Circumcise for ur pees oni? 8) y u pray 5 times a day? 9) Y got Jihad n for wat? 10) y teaching so many practices n nvr spread love? 11) Y when a gal n guy dating they got caught? 12) Y malay must be Islam?
cheahwilliam1980 9 months ago
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@cheahwilliam1980 wht r u trying to pull here? dont be so dodgy my friend.i asnwerd 4 of your questions remember? u have answered me none.r u a just christian or an evil one? so it's ur turn to answer, start with this 1-your Allah mention Jesus his son mentioned in ur bible (d trinity). Did your Allah beget to deliver his word to mankind?..u still owe me three..ahak2
javabeserk 9 months ago
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u need to research about Islam about all your questions above, fren. :)
Mytube8898 1 week ago
@cheahwilliam1980 i never distance to any religion bcoz i like to learn & think. i watched this y=JcMzHgq2zRo bcoz i wanted to see how christians think about their Jesus as 'God' & 'father' figure who u claimed as 'Allah'..d muslim guy who indeed a scholar in d bible had put many bible quotation in rational perspective while d christian's side seemed fail to make their stand reasonably..so does your 'Allah' beget? can u reason with that? perhaps..u can clarify..
javabeserk 10 months ago
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@javabeserk "Allah" sent Jesus for us, after Jesus dead for our Sins and resurrection then he send Holy spirit for us.
Please read BIBLE la brother...before you ask any question.
cheahwilliam1980 10 months ago
inspiring speech! deym!! Vote For Change!!!
becksbacks 10 months ago
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There were no racial problems in Sarawak before formation of Malaysia, inter marriages were common. If Sarawakan now conscious of racial and religious divides, they learned it from UMNO. There were no repressive laws, no quarrelling over Allah, over dead bodies. Meritocracy was practiced and the composition of civil services was multiracial. Corruption and “ketuanan Melayu” were unheard of, and the undesirable list continues. How not to miss pre-Malaysia days? Vote for changes!!!!!
antusarawak 10 months ago
Free Sarawak from the CORRUPT THIEF Minister Taib Mahmud !
REFORMASI ! see how Penang,Selangor ,Kelantan and Pakatan States are run on Justice, Non Corruption and Non Racism !
Hidup Rakyat ! Hidup Reformasi !
MatSetia 10 months ago 28
Free Sarawak from Taib !! Change now !!
lukeraditude 10 months ago
go for CHANGE
yapct 10 months ago
isu Allah nk bg ?
meng ia kan isu ini,boleh mmbawa kpd kufur.
jwp hari akhirat nnt
Naib Mursidul Am Pas sudah beri pnjelasankn....
champion2020 10 months ago
@champion2020 iman dgn Allah mmg tak boleh kompromi. tapi Allah dgunakan sbg nama tuhan sdgkn penganut itu bukan muslim apa masalahnya ya?
javabeserk 10 months ago
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mcmni,Allah yg muslim guna ialah dinyatakan dgn sifat2 Allah yg muslim tau jika ditukar sifatnya,adalah kufur org tersebut,Allah tidak boleh sama sifatnya dgn jesus yg ada tuhan anak dan mak,tiada konsep trinity dlm sifat Allah.sbb itu jika diizin penggunaannya ,ia bakal mengelirukan ramai org islam dan bkn islam.
cari la penjelasan dari prof harun din,naib penasihat PAS berkenaan isu ini,penerangannya jelas dan lebih tratur.
champion2020 10 months ago
@champion2020 mmg benar dlm persepsi prof sbg org islam berkenaan iman dgn Allah. realitinya, yg dipersoalkan ialah nama 'Allah' bukan iman org Islam pd Allah. sememangnya x sama iman org islam dgn Allah dgn iman org bukan islam trhadap Allah. nama Allah telahpn digunakan sblum Muhammad (saw) jd nabi lg. hggakan org arab yg bertuhankn berhala pn Nabi redha depa guna 'Allah' sbb kerja nabi bkn betulkn nama itu ttp betulkn iman mrk dgn Allah.oleh itu, nk selamat iman kita, kita kena buat krja Nabi
javabeserk 10 months ago
@champion2020 contd..bila org Islam buat kerja nabi maka insyaAllah iman muslim meningkat & yg bukn Islam akan phm sapa itu Allah sbnarnya.sbb itulah org Arab kuffar sgt risau ttg dakwah nabi sbb Allah yg mereka percaya telah dilenyapkn dgn kebenaran Allah yg nabi bawa. aku rasa lps ini, peluang utk dkwah Islam m'sia kpd kristian khususnya akan lebih baik. sbb dua2 guna nama Allah & bleh buka era dakwah & diskusi antara agama utk sebarkn kebenaran. Allahkn maha benar. brgantung pada kitalah..
javabeserk 10 months ago
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champion2020 10 months ago
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nabi izin kan golongan kafir guna nama Allah dlm injil??
erm..
wallahuaqlam..
champion2020 10 months ago
@javabeserk mcm2 pandangan ada kan..
aku cuma merujuk pd kenyataan Prof Harun Din.
Prof berpendirian tidak mngkin golongan kafir ini ingin berbuat kebaikan dgn kalimah ini,selain dari mengelirukan,menghina Allah yg kita faham itu apabila disamakan dgn 3 tuhan mereka.prof kata mereka akn mensyirik kan Allah.dan itu 1 kezaliman yg bsar.
champion2020 10 months ago
@champion2020 betul.sbb itu mazhab yg empat pn tidak menyalahkan satu sama lain malah brbincanglg pandangan2 masing itu dlm perlaksanaan syarak. yg penting, jika berlaku perselisihan baliklah kpd yg asal Allah & rasul (alquran & sunnah).insyaAllah tidak akan sesat. mmg org kafir x akan redha dgn Islam selagi org Islam x ikut mrk.hk org Islam utk curiga sbb itupn perntah Allah.ttp curiga Nabi pn ada tggungjwbnya.mrk guna namaNya & Nabi usaha dkwah betulkn iman mrk trhdapNya.moga kita amik iktibar
javabeserk 10 months ago
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champion2020 10 months ago
Go pkr!! Change for serawak ! change for malaysia!
aanritz 10 months ago 2
11:30 "Remember, remember, remember.."
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YuenchiLian 10 months ago