Do humans perceive time objectively? Pt.II

[brindow1]

The narrator aims to use mathematics to prove God ! LOL. He is not scientific. We do not know how the universe arose..so lets create God ! ! His problem is that he is trying to comprehend the universe from the standpoint of a human mind[which is indeed limited in universal terms]. From a human standpoint the universe is seen as complex' .. but is this reason to suppose it was created by a supreme being ? Yes, well I suppose it is to some people.

[adriansalamandre]

@brindow1 Er...where did I say the word Prove? The label God is just another word for universal consciousness. How do you explain how nothing became something? Science is currently studying phenomena like NDE (near death experience) and cases of re-incarnation that are revolutionizing our understanding. The last big revolution came when Copernicus and Galileo proved the rotation and orbit of earth around the sun...and it took centuries for it to be accepted!

[brindow1]

@adriansalamandre It IS NOW KNOWN that something does come out of nothing ! With modern day technology this has been observed-and accepted ! Take any area of space, say a cubic metre [in the same room as you if you like] and it will be observed that virtual particles pop into existence from nothing ! .. and they continue popping in and out of existence. It is difficult for the human mind to accept this - but apparantly it is so.

[adriansalamandre]

@jrsampson2000 er, I think that it matters quite a lot that the perception of time by humans may be subjective and that higher and lower perceptions of time could exist in nature. If we perceived time objectively, would we have perfect memories?

[nickharvey7]

Could the difference between quantum and classical physics be because quantum represents the passage of time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π itself?

This theory is based on two postulates

1. Is that the quantum wave particle function explained by Schrödinger’s wave equation represents the forward passage of time or Arrow of Time itself photon by photon

2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆p×≥h/4π that is formed by the wave function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event

[deapitts]

So if I slowed or stop time would would X's speed increase or the distance from A to B decrease? Because If time is stop how would we define distance between two objects?

[deapitts]

I just want to know if this sounds right. If you where able to slow or stop time. Then with time being stop or slowed an object that moves thought space at a certent rate of speed would travel faster if time was slowed? compared to the time it takes an object to get from point A to B. EX. It takes X to get to B from A 10 min and the distance from A to B is 10 miles. So the speed of X would be 1 mile per minuet.

[snotnosejoe]

do you have a dog? They may not have "projection" like us but i believe your concept of time is VERY unobjective. maybe even subjective. there i said it.

[adriansalamandre]

@snotnosejoe Thank you! er, that's the point, our concept of time is subjective. btw, I do not have a dog, nor a plant. lol

[snotnosejoe]

do you have a dog? They may not have "projection" like us but i believe your concept of time is VERY unobjective.

[RobDeManc]

Animals do have a concept of time. They would not be able to hunt if they didn't. They are not that far behind us in their understanding of time.

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc I think an animals ability to hunt has nothing to do with it's concept about time, but more to do with the neccesity to eat food.

[RobDeManc]

@adriansalamandre Of course. But the animal must have a concept of 'later', a concept of itself catching the animal it wants to eat, otherwise it wouldn't make the effort hungry or not. Animals also have social structures and hierarchies, just like humans. They understand consequences, consequences are things that happen 'later'. It is very arrogant of humans to think animals have no concept of time.

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc Methinks you are projecting an awful lot of concepts onto animals that don't even have a written language with which to concretise abstract ideas. Most humans are constantly distracted from the present moment and are "elsewhere". Try and remember the present moment for as long as possible and see how quickly you forget. You will be surprized how easily we get distracted. Now apply this to an animal consciousness and maybe you will understand my point.

[RobDeManc]

@adriansalamandre written language is not what gives us a concept of time. I think you are presuming that animals consciousness is somehow inferior to ours but have given no proof. Animals communicate in ways that indicate they have a concept of time. They can call to each other to warn of danger and this requires a mermory of that danger. They remember something from the past and apply to the now for future benefit. Monkeys can do this. Dogs can too.

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc You miss my point, my friend. These videos are meant to be viewed as an attempt to show how consciousness may be higher or lower than that of humans. If you think that you have the same level of consciousness as a fish for example, then you are welcome to it. I did mention in part 1 that animals that enjoy the company of humans evidently learn over countless generations and that a "sliding scale" of consciousness can be applied. For details on this please go to my website on this idea

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc re: your demand for proof...Do you really need proof that our concepts relating to time are superior to those of animals? Maybe I should have made it clear that i was referring to humans "on a good day" as I fear that homo sapiens sapiens is on a downward path and his level of consciousness is in fact on the same level as a goldfish afterall. Thank you for showing me the light! I hope you understand that I'm being ironic, but not sarcastic!

[RobDeManc]

@adriansalamandre Surely you realize that a humans concept of time is not very sophisticated at all. We still cannot explain what time is. The best effort yet has been from Einstein who slots time into the dimensions of the universe. But our understanding of it is virtually zero.

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc Yes, i'm sure that my pet goldfish can do just as well as Einstein on this subject.

[RobDeManc]

@adriansalamandre You are very naively lumping all animals together. It is not them and us. We are animals. The consciousness of a chimpanzee will be much closer to ours than a goldfishes would. We often pride ourselves as being 'better' than animals. But I think that is debatable.

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc I disagree that we are on the same level as animals and it is fact you who are naively lumping all animals together as you include humans in this "lump". There is plenty of evidence to support the idea that humans percieve more. I would like to recommend some literature on this subject: "Tertium organum" by P.D. Ouspensky. Another interesting angle is "Superluminous man" by Regis Dutheil who explains that there could be a higher level of consciousness than Man's! You are what you are.

[RobDeManc]

@adriansalamandre No you are the one lumping all animals together without us. You are arrogant to think of us as seperate from the animal kingdom and you have to admit that being a human makes you far too subjective to state that we have a higher consciousness.  Don't forget that science as yet cannot explain consciousness so what makes you think you can?

[adriansalamandre]

@RobDeManc Do you know the one about the monkey trap? A man makes a hole in a tree trunk and puts a small stone inside. An inquisitive monkey finds the stone but will not let go of it in order to remove his paw, even when the man comes back to steal the monkey away! Is this example me being arrogant again? btw, I am making no claims in explaining consciousness. Some scientists even deny it exists. I am trying to suggest that higher levels of consciousness exist too.

[Dansthoughts]

"Sometimes upon wakening, I feel that a dream is true reality." Don Quijote.

[DontClickOnMyIcon]

You know that rock your holding your hand is alive at SOME LEVEL..

[SvrbiMeNos]

so how a cat hunts a mouse, how would it determine the distance

[adriansalamandre]

@SvrbiMeNos a blind cataract patient having recovered his vision could not distinguish the difference between a flat disc and a sphere...until he was allowed to touch them! Distance makes no difference as a 2 dimensional vision offers enough information to make partial sense of "the outside world". When we see a flat drawing we can still measure distances between flat objects. As time passes and objects move each object changes shape.

[SvrbiMeNos]

@adriansalamandre

the idea was, as I understood the video, that animals are incapable of understanding the third dimension or using it (since they do have to be able to notice it it physically, they still have two eyes, as mentioned), because of the way brain processes the image.

[adriansalamandre]

@SvrbiMeNos This is only a relatively small part... The main idea that the perception of temporal phenomena is dependant on the level of consciousness. A Russian mathematician P.D. Ouspensky wrote a major work on this subject "Tertium Organum". Animals interact with the 3rd dimension, but percieve it differently to humans, and likewise, angels percieve the 4th dimension differently to humans.

[SvrbiMeNos]

Одговори на овај видео... A person with one eye, after being around various objects, is able to have some idea of the distance between himself and those objects, but only if he had the other eye blinded at some point in life. That's what I've been told, at least. Animals are very skilled when it comes to hunting, and it does require great vision and usage of it, so it is an odd idea, that they perceive only two dimensions; have I understood it well?

[adriansalamandre]

@SvrbiMeNos Humans can be easily fooled by the things they perceive, for example by optical illusions. Even when we understand the illusion, it still persists. Plato's allegory of the cave watchers also illustrates how we can easily draw false conclusions about things. Do animals conceive or do they only perceive? If they conceive, is it likely to be more illusory than the conceptions of humans? how do you explain the blind patients loss of depth?

[Wraithofvolsunga]

@adriansalamandre

No, we do not carry our own dictionaries. If we did, then language would be useless. Communication is dependent on mutual acceptance of meaning. Charlatans like you take advantage of this and use scientific jargon when you really mean New Age magic and mysticism.

I don't accept the grammar of the question. Using the term "higher" implies that there are mystical "levels of consciousness". Consciousness is a singular state. It is only one of the factors in the human experience.

[Ramabodhi]

@Wraithofvolsunga Higher mammals. Higher cognitive functions. Higher dimensions. Higher frequencies. Just because frequencies exist beyond our antenna's capacities to receive, does not imply magic and mysticism.

[Ramabodhi]

@Wraithofvolsunga High: having a great or considerable extent or reach upward or vertically; lofty; tall: a high wall. So lets say that the part of the brain that separates us from mammals is LITERALLY higher up than the rest , considering evolution has built the brain from the bottom up, then if consciousness is a self awareness that arises from the brains electrochemical processes, then the consciousness of an animal with HIGHER BRAINS will have a HIGHER consciousness

[Ramabodhi]

@Wraithofvolsunga . If consciousness were singular, then EVERYONE, every animal/human would have the SAME SELF IMAGE. There would be no such thing as personality or identity, nor such a thing as a disagreement as the one you are trying to engage in here.

[adriansalamandre]

@Wraithofvolsunga "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." Albert Einstein

[Ramabodhi]

@Wraithofvolsunga Finally. Mystical levels of consciousness. What are you afraid of? Mystical is from mystikos, an member of a mystery school in the pursuit of ultimate truth. Sounds JUST like science. Mysterious/Mystical, having qualities beyond that of our senses and comprehension, just like 99% of observable reality? Sounds like the people you love and the people you hate are on the same path and it is you who is divided

[zelldot]

um.... as for this universe, the big crunch will never happen.... research into the redshift

[adriansalamandre]

@zelldot Lucky us! maybe the universe doesn't give a damn about "research in redshift" and will crunch anyway....one day

[zelldot]

@adriansalamandre  lol i wouldnt care about it anyways.... ill be dead by then

[adriansalamandre]

@zelldot Unless you have a soul that survives death.

[joeygarage77]

thank you very much sir! you have opened my eyes once again to the world that which exists around me

[akrivera]

This is all bunk.

[adriansalamandre]

@akrivera like the saying goes "If you can't do, teach and if you can't teach, CRITICIZE!" why don't you share your own thoughts with us all rather than just take the easy road and dismiss my ideas without even contributing something?

Is it because you've nothing to say?

[tddavis]

@adriansalamandre until you can formulate a test to prove god exist in your formula it doesn't exist. Definition of god being a intelligently aware anomaly that manipulates the universe, or we can just go with a supernatural being.

[adriansalamandre]

@tddavis a vegetable can understand the theory of relativity just as well as a human can understand God. The whole point of faith is that it goes way beyond this idea of proof! my model of dimensional leaps in consciousness is just to outline how I see the whole of creation, from nothing all the way up to GOD.

[tddavis]

@adriansalamandre I don't have faith in god. for me to do that I would have to give up my integrity and believe anything people told me without evidence. I don't believe in magic only what is tangible. Because everything is true in the realm of belief and Faith, god is just one idea to believe in an ocean of many.

[adriansalamandre]

@tddavis I have faith that God exists, but I do not believe that "everything is true in the realm of belief and faith" like you. I think that the definition of God is becoming a major stumbling block here. People who want proof that God or "a higher consciousness" exists in the universe seem to me to be "wanting their cake and eating it" too. 25 years ago I was a Darwinist geologist, but I now think that nothing happens by chance and that man is here for a good reason, namely to understand.

[tddavis]

@adriansalamandre Everything can be equally true in the realm of belief ,because none of it supported by evidence. There is no way to disprove any of it. It appeals to human emotion and peoples irrational nature. God is no more real than any other religious deity or mythological creature that pegan druidic religions believed. it is all equally Irrational. Faith only offers irrationality and excepting anything in the category of Faith from any myths or realign compromises being rational.

[adriansalamandre]

@tddavis "none of it is supported by evidence" have you come across literature by Fritjof Capra "the tao of physics" who compares quantum mechanics and ancient Hindu mysticism, or P.D.Ouspensky a mathematician who discusses a higher sphere called the "nuomenal" world with our "phenomenal" world? Or Regis Dutheil, a professor of physics in his book "Super-luminous man" using evidence from near-death-experience patients? but I'm sure you'll dismiss this as non-evidence before even reading them.

[adriansalamandre]

@tddavis until you can formulate a test to prove that ttdavis exists then you don't.

To me if the universe did not exist then that would prove that God does not exist.

[Wraithofvolsunga]

@adriansalamandre

"I think, therefore I am" No matter what you can doubt, it is impossible to doubt the doubter. This is the only truth that can survive a true solipsism. Your argument is committing an enormous fallacy of consequent affirmation. This is a formal fallacy and should be obvious to the even the least skeptical observer.

[adriansalamandre]

@Wraithofvolsunga so you don't believe in a higher consciousness than that of man?

[Wraithofvolsunga]

@adriansalamandre

Man is no different than animal save for the more complex frontal lobe that allows, among other things, for the development of language and, by extension, civilization. Octopi, Dolphins, Corvids, and Chimps for example have been proven to be self aware in the same sense humans are and have been known to engineer fairly complex tools independently. There is no "higher" or "lower" consciousness. There is just consciousness i.e. self-awareness. Don't use ambiguous terminology.

[Lamentfordeath]

interesting time theories, but time is only relative.

[ImPatchable]

If animals are stuck in the present how does my dog remember me?

[Lamentfordeath]

@ImPatchable All things are only in the present; past and future only occur in our minds.

[Shystichu]

@ImPatchable Your dog remembers you because you and the dog exist together in the present.

[hypno63]

Dogs do remember past events. A lot f ther animals too.

[SithDarthGendo]

Nice vid.

You really thought it all through.

[0815funkmaster]

@macca1139 WHY do you wan't to seperate?! Science and Spirituality is coming back together! Talk to a Quantum phycicist. God is just a word to describe the Spirit of the Universe. Not in a religious way, your idea of whatever it is will absolutly sufficiant. So HOW can one be an agnostic these days, when even Science now suggest vast forces at work. You don't need to see to believe, you must BELIEVE TO SEE !!! So open your head just a little bit and don't get stucked on one'Believe structure'

[adzug]

if we experiance time moving from present to future does physics say that thats our perception but that time exists all at once? the past pres and future all exist at once but we only see it at the present going into the future? lemme know

[CapitalGamer]

@macca1139 Einstein begged to differ.

[IHateYourFaceYo]

i thought there were 11 dimensions according to string theory :/ i think you just pointed out obvious facts that the eyes reconstruct light refraction into a 3 dimensional field... my cat seems to know exactly how tall objects are to jump onto them...birds dont slam into the ground at random so they must have 3 dimensional perception visually... there are 3 points in time. past present and future, they all might need to be considered their own dimensions

[clubadv]

Ver well done. in my mind, you can remove infinity from the equations by implementing the plank length for points. Nothing can "exist" that is smaller than the Plank Length (10 to the -33 centimeters). Same with time, you cannot have a unit of time smaller than the plank unit of time (10 to the -43 seconds).

Quantum physics proves that anthing smaller looses locality, and is then everywhere at once. Eternal maybe. extra dimentional. Photons are point masses without time too.

[existentaeinutila]

Thank you for showing and materializing your tghouths.

[HerrBlob]

I AM GOD

[1Nrin]

hey i agree with the animal sight. my only problem is that you said you would talk more on human evolution but you said nothing at all. But i believe there are 2 possible ways we evolved. the first one being that we ate mushrooms off some cow turds n got smarter that way. or second, we were a lab experiment for some alien race. and if you look into the bible stories alil more ull c eve wasnt the 1st lady and the alien story starts looking a bit more likely

[adriansalamandre]

Thanks for your comments and my apologies for not mentioning human evolution in part 2... I go into detail about hallucinogens on my website linked to this video in the info. I'm tempted to shoot other videos on this subject or even re-do them from scratch...

[spacedecoy]

Time, space and gravity are illusions. The universe is continually created and resolving it doesnt expand into something, theres no edge, no "size" Entangle entities occupy same space. Not so entangled entities appearing separate to observers. As matter resolves, the illusion of space collapses between them as observed as gravitational attraction and motion as wave functions presses to in-phase becoming one. Cosmic red shift is illusion of matter shrinking not an expanding universe.

[merkannibal]

To the author about animals not knowing time; what of animals getting excited around the time their favored owner coming home minutes before hand?

[adriansalamandre]

I said in part 1 that some animals, like parrots and oran-utangs for example, have undoubtedly learned from humans as domestic animals live in our world so to speak. But does a goldfish get excited minutes before his favorite owner gets home? A fish is a good example, even a domesticated fish!

[etherealmateriademon]

@merkannibal Animals are known to be psychic. They are more connected to nature than we are and they have strong sense of smell and hearing so naturally their perception is sharper than our own =) things happen in the world we cannot explain alllll the time! lol. Who knows why anything is how it is? You and I can only keep guessing I suppose *shrugs* =P

[merkannibal]

So, are you saying that animals do or do not have a sense of time, in a matter of words?

[adriansalamandre]

I suggest a sliding scale of time sense from none whatsoever to vague at best...as I keep saying to folk, animals who are in human contact can learn, but it seems that this often gets ignored...ah well, never mind.

[merkannibal]

I would say neither humans nor animals have a sense of time. We have the sun. The world turns and gives us day and night. Animals and humans see it. Just because we invented the clock doesn't mean we have a sense of time, we just created a way to measure events so we know how long ago something happened or should happen. I can say in 3 moons, or months, or 12 weeks. If you put a human in solitary with no windows, he WON"T KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS!

[existentaeinutila]

@merkannibal He would still know because he will perceive how his own tghouths are passing by,coming and going away.

[merkannibal]

I agree animals know more than what's seen. Some people can too. My son used to freak me out and say words that were in my thoughts when I was mad thinking of a past event or argument. But philosophically speaking, no one knows all, therefore, no one really knows anything for certain. Just an accumulation of opinions. School books were outdated when I was in school, as they will always, so what are we teaching our children? How to be ignorant consumers for world banks. Blood for oil.

[JUNKYARDOGvideos]

the concept of 'god' or 'a higher conciousness' than human are "conceptual dimentions" conceptual in that one person or group's beliefs may contradict anothers, Or do they ?

Richard Dawkins concept of "sum over historys" would sugest that even contradictory 'realitys' may exist simoultainiously and in paralell 'truth', even though they seem to contradict one another. in life we run out of time before we run out of space [phisicality].

[djassimilator]

if space is infinitly big it must be infinitly small i'm not sure there has to be more than one universe if it is this way why would there be more than one. By the way my dog knows he exists he just does'nt understand what that is and why just like all of us.

[keggerous]

we kinda have simular ideas about existence. in my opinion when we die we ascend to the next dimention. which isnt like ur view of a biblical god.

[diddasterdly]

Hi whilst I find a lot of what your saying interesting and possible, unless I missunderstood, you say in this piece that there is a great chance animals  see things in only 2 dimensions, I find this hard to accept, when I chuck my dog a treat, he jumps up and catches it. To do this he not only needs to see in 3 dimensions he also needs a certain amount of spacial awareness.

I may have miss understood your point, as time and physics in general are subjects that I am not well versed in.

[rbqd]

Your dog does not need 3D vision to catch things,it just makes it easier.I know this as I only have the one eye.I think all animals must have a certain amount of spacial awareness in order to function in their enviroment,but I don't think this equates to awareness of three dimensions.

[keggerous]

of coarse they are aware of 3 dimensions! its called depth perception!!!!!

[rbqd]

Large numbers of animals have their eyes on opposite sides of their heads giving no three dimensional vision at all,so no depth perception there.What does a spider see with eight eyes?Maybe the face of God.Or maybe just its lunch.

[adriansalamandre]

Thanks for your comment! A dog might see the same things as humans, but draw completely different conclusions...for example if we take a round piece of paper and turn it through 90° we see it at different angles, from a circle to a thin ellipse, but a dog would probably think that the piece of paper is actually changing shape! the dog has no concepts of angles and would probably assume the paper to be "animated", just like the treat that you may throw to it!

[joeyhayes03]

All that is needed to perceive 3 dimensions are 2 eyes. The organism's brain compares the very small differences between the 2 images and quickly works out the approximate depth of the object. We all see a flat world through 2 camera's. UNDERSTANDING 3D and yourself placed in it, is exclusive to us no doubt. However, I agree with the infinite points in any object.

[paragpandit]

preaching pseudo scientific nonsense?

[adriansalamandre]

No, I'm simply sharing ideas with people. If you could please read the details on the website cited in "more info." then I'll gladly try and answer any specific question you may wish to pose...

[a7d9]

Time is like a temperature. It might go quicker or slower or explode in one end or the other. Also there should be episodes beyond measurement. Also mainly a local thing on larger scale. Good luck.

[adriansalamandre]

I've heard an interesting theory that the speed of time is slowing down! astronomers were shocked to see the apparent acceleration of the expansion of the universe (and they rushed to invent dark matter and dark energy to fill in the holes!) but this acceleration in expansion could be an optical illusion caused by the decelleration of the speed of time...

[rbqd]

Nobody ever called him Al

[ESP1EMG]

nice popet

[vitami1n]

Very interesting. Bang or not, you sure gave me some kicks.

However, i believe that awareness goes through all levels, cos awareness brings things into existence. It is a broadness of perception that differs. I think.

Understanding springs from simple elements up, while "God" provides the field in wich all happenes through will.

[rbqd]

Einstein was not a handsome fellow

[limeffdd]

to rbqd, opinion + non sequital

[murfrules107]

o'clock in the afternoon. I saw that my dog would actually run to the door at around 2:43 and wait for me to get home. 2:43 was the average time that he would get to the front door (after 2 months of video taping him.) I thought this was very strange in the fact that he knew when I was getting home, and that he made appearances to "check" to see if I was on the way up to the door. This was astonishing to me, because it showed that he was actually perceiving time and guessing when Iwouldgethome.

[murfrules107]

Well, I'm not going to argue with what you said at all, because I understand much of it to be true. But, the thing about a dog only understanding 3 dimensions, time being the one left out, I just don't really understand that. Dogs do look to the future. I watched this video about 2 months ago, and wanted to test my dog to see if he perceived time. I set up a video camera near my front door (which I enter everyday I get home from work) and would video tape my dog. I normally get home around three

[kenotube]

Yes. I agree with you and was thinking the same thing about animals when I was watching this video. No perception of time means not anticipating beyond the present moment. Clearly, a dog chasing and catching a frisbee anticipates the trajectory of the frisbee and his movements are based on his anticipation of future events. The dog knows the frisbee will be landing in the future. So clearly, animals have this perception, albeit at a lesser degree of awareness than humans do.

[adriansalamandre]

Yes, I chose badly by using a dog as choice of animal. I want to replace this dog with...a fish!

i think the human influence on animals like parrots and dogs help them to understand time better than if left to nature...

I bet someone will now tell me thier goldfish knows when it's favorite T.V.programme is about to come on air...i can't win...

[kenotube]

OK. Fish it is! I see your point, and different animals have this awareness to widely different degrees. Scientists are now discovering that many animals are much more intelligent than people have thought in the past. This is especially true of social animals. I have seen videos about crows and ravens and was astounded! They actually have the ability to reason and organize. Anyhow, I liked your video.

[adriansalamandre]

Yes, I wonder where this organization and reason originates?...geneticists arrogantly tell us that about 97% of our genes are "junk", but I wonder if this "junk" is in fact a storehouse of experiences encoded down the ages and available to any individual...maybe we pass on our memories through our genes...

[gmiadl]

well if i understand you, there is just a presnt whatever you call it but where does a god come into all of this, very cool stuff

[goran199413]

there is only now tine past and future are illusion

[TheDestroyer9090]

Hahahahahahahahah

[JohnsonFinland]

There is no GOD. GOD is imaginary

[adriansalamandre]

you must be very clever to know this; can you prove it to me please?

[bookshop002]

It seems that you are jumping to conclusions in this video, how is a "dog" a dimension? Are you saying thatPerception is a dimension?

Maybe I'm missing something.

[adriansalamandre]

yes you are missing something! I merely used this cute lil' doggie to illustrate that "reality" depends on how many dimensions you can perceive; animals perceive only 3 but most humans can percieve 4 (3 in space and Time!)

[TheFourman]

I have an idea of 18 dimensions (including ones contained within a single point and 'unseen' ones):

3 subspace (inside a point, determining properties of point particles)

3 normal space

3 hyperspace (like TARDIS or some computer games)

3 subtime (determining direction of motion)

3 normal time, possibility and probability

3 hypertime (connecting completely different universes / multiverses and everything anyone can imagine)

Maybe I'll make a video of it soon...

[adriansalamandre]

.....wow

[travisbrummett]

one day i will become a god of my own universe.

[adriansalamandre]

well, you've got my vote...travis brummett is god of his own universe TODAY

[eye4me]

if the structure of reality is infinite, then there you are the center of the universe, and so am i and so is everybody else. we are each at the center of the mandala, as difficult as that is to believe.

[bminternet43]

i dont believe in infinity. how can it exist. this imlpys no start middle or end, physically there has to be a start middile or end. it is impossible to not have.

[adriansalamandre]

I think it depends... For example, a universe is finite: it has a big bang at one end and maybe a big crunch at the other, but there could be an infinite number of them! I would say that physical entities are finite but concepts we find in mathematics can include things like infinity

[eye4me]

i agree. its actually more logical than having something come from nothing its just that our minds cannot really come to terms with it because everything we experience is finite. i think that everything is a infinite fractal. the universe we perceive is embedded in a larger universe etc. i think that the big bang was just a massive black hole in a larger universe that sucked in enough matter to create our universe. our universe probably creates other universes and so on.

[bipolarorwakingup]

Very interesting! I would like to see more about your ideas on what the higher dimensions, 5 and 6, might be like.  It´s difficult to get my head around!

[adriansalamandre]

It is for me too!