@TheDano1947 And that justifies the Rapture theory??? Actually, I could have mentioned the Martyrdoms of Orthodox Christians under the Turks, the Communist era, and in fact, the massacre of Orthodox Christians by the Roman Catholic Church also. It is true that the Vatican has sponsored and carried out many mass murders. John Calvin did also, but to a lesser degree because he contolled less territory. None of us should romanticise our pasts.
Vladika, I was talking with a person who studied Dr. Stanilou on the end times. Were you drawing from some of his thoughts? That Christ will come when there is nothing left to save? (Of course, I'm paraphrasing. I suspect I'm misquoting.) Any other thoughts on Dr. Stanilou's thoughts on the matter? Thanks...
@neildingman That is simply the traditional Orthodox Christian view: so long as there is a harvest, the field will remain. Alas, very few Orthodox Christians are taught traditional Orthodox Christian understandings. Particularly in North America, where Protestantism is dragged into the Orthodox Church by semi-converts. We even have something of a "Westboro Orthodox Church" down in the States.
@allsaintsmonastery Interesting. Didn't realize that was a traditional Orthodox Christian view. I'll revisit some of your writings to prepare for tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback, Vladika.. WOC?? That reminds me, an Orthodox lady was wondering if there are any articles that explain the difference between Orthodox and Baptists. A Baptist fellow thinks Orthodoxy is the same as the Baptist tradition. I couldn't think of anything. Do you know of any? Besides a bucket of cold water.
@neildingman Baptists are Calvinists pure and simple. Since Calvin drew on Augustine, and we did not. Just tell him that from an Orthodox point of view Augustine and John Calvin are heretics, predestination and total depravity are Gnostic, not Christian, and that is that.
@allsaintsmonastery I was always told that Augustine was considered a saint but not a church father in the Orthodox Church. I think I prefer to think of it that way. What's your take on Origen?
@gambleor Augustine never appeared in any Church calendar, and was never referred to as Saint until about 1985, and then only in a few local places, particularly was Ecumenism was very strong. Was the Orthodox Church in error for 1500 years until is was corrected by the radical Ecumenist movement in the 1980s?????
@allsaintsmonastery In that case, what do you make of the paper by Rev. Dr. George C. Papademetriou entitled "Saint Augustine in the Greek Orthodox Tradition"? Also, should we still consider Origen a Chruch Father even though some of his views were anathematized in the 5th Ecumenical Council?
@gambleor I am aware of it because Fr. George and I are close friends. The fact remains that for 1500 years, the Orthodox Church did not list Augustine as a Saint, and certainly not as a father of the Church. Origen taught reincarnation, metempsychosis, the preexistence of souls and and various other Buddhist treachings (Buddhist influence was quite strong in Alexandria from the time of Alexander the Great and impacted on early Christian Monasticism.) If you are prepared to accept the
@gambleor idea of the transmigration of souls, reincarnation and the pre-existence of souls, plus the main heresy that Origen was condemned for (apokatastasis), then you may want to consider him a Church father --- depends on just how much Buddhism you wish to incorporate into Christianity.
@allsaintsmonastery May God continue to protect His Holy Church from all errors. Origen introduced numerous errors certainly. In addition to his errors, what would say about Origen's exegesis of Holy Scripture concerning the Incarnation of Christ, Vladyka? I make reference to Origen's commentaries and homilies on the infancy narratives of Matthew and Luke. Therein I read Origen's emphasis on the Incarnation of Christ our God as the axis of our healing and salvation.
@allsaintsmonastery No, the Church was not in error for 1500 years. Oddly, it was not only a radical or non-discretionary strand of ecumenicists who have favored adding an entry of Augustine to the Orthodox calendar, but also followers of Fr. Seraphim [Rose] of blessed memory. Fr. Seraphim's late 70's text, 'The Place of Blessed Augustine in the Orthodox Church' [rev. 1997], includes numerous errors of fact and advances exaggerated conclusions the require scrutiny and disavowal.
@allsaintsmonastery Your Eminence, we are currently facing this problem in my Greek Orthodox Church in Toronto. I am at a youth assemble in Ottawa where I brought this topic up, such as how the youth now days are facing a new, as you often say, axial age. Would you mind directing me, or giving me some ideas to overcome this
@11CommandmentComedy Each Orth Ch has its own particular problems. With the Greek Church the romanticisation of Hellenism is a grt problm. There is little space in this to answr you, but (1) Time and place have a different meaning in the digital age, than to older people; (2) Prejudices which were important to prvious genratns are rejected by the New Axial genratn. (3) terms of reference of past times are often meaningless in 21st cent. (4) Yesterdays mythologies and superstns are menigless
@mrpeabodyist By the way, I never mentioned the "Westboro Orthodox Church" in a broadcast, but only in a few e-mails, none of which were to you, so i can't help but be curious about where you hear it. Alas, we do have that perverse attitude, but let me tell you that those who have such an attitude do not so much hate others as they hate themselves, and that their own self-hatred is the source of the malice and hatred that they pour out through self-projection.
@allsaintsmonastery it was a question to your comment above mine about we(i'm pravoslavnie) having a westboro orthodox church down in the states. having read your comment to my comment, you have answered my question
@allsaintsmonastery Vladyka, as I understand your point about the WBC located in Topeka, Kansas [USA], WBC stands as a sign and symbol of prejudicial and destructive hate against anyone who does not share the WBC view that--and I quote from the WBC literature--"God hates fags," which also serves as moniker for the URL address of WBC. If one were to delete the word "fags" and substitute in its place another word such as Muslims, then the group espousing this idea could be the WBC of hate for...
thank you for your talks, which are an ocean of sanity, amongst so much 'Christian' dross !
ironjohnlad 8 months ago
Hello Your Grace, How would non Christians be remembered in Orthodox litergies? Thank you for your time and reply.
brightwhitelight1 9 months ago
Thank you your Grace.
brightwhitelight1 9 months ago
Thank you for your words!
emplives 9 months ago
Christ is Risen! Spot on, Vladyka!
jonmsawyer 9 months ago
That was pretty simple, thanks Vladika.
neildingman 9 months ago
Yes there is still reaping to do! Amen!
MsSSnow 9 months ago
So true!
MsSSnow 9 months ago
I think you're forgetting about the centuries of torture and death at the hands of the catholic church
TheDano1947 9 months ago
@TheDano1947 And that justifies the Rapture theory??? Actually, I could have mentioned the Martyrdoms of Orthodox Christians under the Turks, the Communist era, and in fact, the massacre of Orthodox Christians by the Roman Catholic Church also. It is true that the Vatican has sponsored and carried out many mass murders. John Calvin did also, but to a lesser degree because he contolled less territory. None of us should romanticise our pasts.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
Vladika, I was talking with a person who studied Dr. Stanilou on the end times. Were you drawing from some of his thoughts? That Christ will come when there is nothing left to save? (Of course, I'm paraphrasing. I suspect I'm misquoting.) Any other thoughts on Dr. Stanilou's thoughts on the matter? Thanks...
neildingman 9 months ago
@neildingman That is simply the traditional Orthodox Christian view: so long as there is a harvest, the field will remain. Alas, very few Orthodox Christians are taught traditional Orthodox Christian understandings. Particularly in North America, where Protestantism is dragged into the Orthodox Church by semi-converts. We even have something of a "Westboro Orthodox Church" down in the States.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery Interesting. Didn't realize that was a traditional Orthodox Christian view. I'll revisit some of your writings to prepare for tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback, Vladika.. WOC?? That reminds me, an Orthodox lady was wondering if there are any articles that explain the difference between Orthodox and Baptists. A Baptist fellow thinks Orthodoxy is the same as the Baptist tradition. I couldn't think of anything. Do you know of any? Besides a bucket of cold water.
neildingman 9 months ago
@neildingman Baptists are Calvinists pure and simple. Since Calvin drew on Augustine, and we did not. Just tell him that from an Orthodox point of view Augustine and John Calvin are heretics, predestination and total depravity are Gnostic, not Christian, and that is that.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery I was always told that Augustine was considered a saint but not a church father in the Orthodox Church. I think I prefer to think of it that way. What's your take on Origen?
gambleor 9 months ago
@gambleor Augustine never appeared in any Church calendar, and was never referred to as Saint until about 1985, and then only in a few local places, particularly was Ecumenism was very strong. Was the Orthodox Church in error for 1500 years until is was corrected by the radical Ecumenist movement in the 1980s?????
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery In that case, what do you make of the paper by Rev. Dr. George C. Papademetriou entitled "Saint Augustine in the Greek Orthodox Tradition"? Also, should we still consider Origen a Chruch Father even though some of his views were anathematized in the 5th Ecumenical Council?
gambleor 9 months ago
@gambleor I am aware of it because Fr. George and I are close friends. The fact remains that for 1500 years, the Orthodox Church did not list Augustine as a Saint, and certainly not as a father of the Church. Origen taught reincarnation, metempsychosis, the preexistence of souls and and various other Buddhist treachings (Buddhist influence was quite strong in Alexandria from the time of Alexander the Great and impacted on early Christian Monasticism.) If you are prepared to accept the
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@gambleor idea of the transmigration of souls, reincarnation and the pre-existence of souls, plus the main heresy that Origen was condemned for (apokatastasis), then you may want to consider him a Church father --- depends on just how much Buddhism you wish to incorporate into Christianity.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery I've no wish to incorporate foreign dogma into Christianity. Thank you for the response Your Eminence.
gambleor 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery May God continue to protect His Holy Church from all errors. Origen introduced numerous errors certainly. In addition to his errors, what would say about Origen's exegesis of Holy Scripture concerning the Incarnation of Christ, Vladyka? I make reference to Origen's commentaries and homilies on the infancy narratives of Matthew and Luke. Therein I read Origen's emphasis on the Incarnation of Christ our God as the axis of our healing and salvation.
ioannismiami 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery No, the Church was not in error for 1500 years. Oddly, it was not only a radical or non-discretionary strand of ecumenicists who have favored adding an entry of Augustine to the Orthodox calendar, but also followers of Fr. Seraphim [Rose] of blessed memory. Fr. Seraphim's late 70's text, 'The Place of Blessed Augustine in the Orthodox Church' [rev. 1997], includes numerous errors of fact and advances exaggerated conclusions the require scrutiny and disavowal.
ioannismiami 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery Your Eminence, we are currently facing this problem in my Greek Orthodox Church in Toronto. I am at a youth assemble in Ottawa where I brought this topic up, such as how the youth now days are facing a new, as you often say, axial age. Would you mind directing me, or giving me some ideas to overcome this
11CommandmentComedy 9 months ago
@11CommandmentComedy Each Orth Ch has its own particular problems. With the Greek Church the romanticisation of Hellenism is a grt problm. There is little space in this to answr you, but (1) Time and place have a different meaning in the digital age, than to older people; (2) Prejudices which were important to prvious genratns are rejected by the New Axial genratn. (3) terms of reference of past times are often meaningless in 21st cent. (4) Yesterdays mythologies and superstns are menigless
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery what westboro orthodox church in america and canada??? we don't have that kind of ignorant hate....do we??
mrpeabodyist 9 months ago
@mrpeabodyist Not in Canada, no. In America, alas, yes.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@mrpeabodyist By the way, I never mentioned the "Westboro Orthodox Church" in a broadcast, but only in a few e-mails, none of which were to you, so i can't help but be curious about where you hear it. Alas, we do have that perverse attitude, but let me tell you that those who have such an attitude do not so much hate others as they hate themselves, and that their own self-hatred is the source of the malice and hatred that they pour out through self-projection.
allsaintsmonastery 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery it was a question to your comment above mine about we(i'm pravoslavnie) having a westboro orthodox church down in the states. having read your comment to my comment, you have answered my question
thanks very much. god bless
mrpeabodyist 9 months ago
@allsaintsmonastery Vladyka, as I understand your point about the WBC located in Topeka, Kansas [USA], WBC stands as a sign and symbol of prejudicial and destructive hate against anyone who does not share the WBC view that--and I quote from the WBC literature--"God hates fags," which also serves as moniker for the URL address of WBC. If one were to delete the word "fags" and substitute in its place another word such as Muslims, then the group espousing this idea could be the WBC of hate for...
ioannismiami 9 months ago
this is a great message sir... great message indeed
tiger695 9 months ago
Your videos are a blessing in an insane world.
4hischurch 9 months ago 2
@4hischurch I pretty much agree with your comment, even though I don't have religious faith...
We humans spend far too much time and effort fighting and arguing with each other. It's so silly and so sad... so much wasted potential.
finlarg 8 months ago
amen it sadens me to see so many christians speak of gods heatred and not to speak of gods love.
telling people that there on the path to hell and not telling them how to get to heaven
logicalchuck 9 months ago
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logicalchuck 9 months ago
Well said........
seeker6789 9 months ago