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  • The 666BlackSun website explains this much better.

  • Interesting point. Yes, the heart is positioned slightly to the left. Also, I am left-handed. Left-handed used to be considered sinister. If fact that is what the root of the word means.

  • The black sun is SATURN ,

  • @Rooshic Some have said this in relation to the Saturnic phase that came before the Sun, Moon, and present Earth phases

  • @Rooshic Black sun is a Blackhole-Galaxy. Because this word is not english or german (SchwarzeSonne) the original word is Sanskrit. And in sanskrit, Black and Sun are opposite words, that shows us there can not be a black sun. So this is not a sun, not a planet too. This is a blackhole. Search about it.

  • @feyko23 Fascinating! Great comment. Thank you.

  • @urbanecondetroit You're Welcome

  • @feyko23 actually black "holes" are not holes, but burned out suns that collapsed on them selves after they ran out of fuel and their gravity pulled all the molecules of the sun together in a dense mass. but i get what you're sayin'. : D

  • @qwyzl I know, but after all it effects like a hole that pulls everything in right? Thats why they call them black hole. And as you say, they are "died suns", so thats why its named as Black "Sun" :)

    Thanks for reply by the way

  • @feyko23 i just had to be a smart ass. i know you know all about it. but some times... i just like to be a smart ass. : D

  • There is not a "White Sun" Because Black sun is a blackhole. In sanskirt the word "black" and the word "sun" are opposite of theirselves. So it means this is a blackhole. Anyway i just want to say that Blacksun fought with today's Illuminati, believe or not.

  • @feyko23 So perhaps the Black Sun/White is related to anti-matter/matter.

  • @feyko23 so do you think the black sun was against the illuminati or with them ?

  • @Rooshic Of course Black sun was against the illuminati. its about a very big fight gentleman and most of people who watched this know someting... Its fight of Agartha - Shamballa. Illuminati is fighting for the dark side :) , and only Nazis (and may be Hashasins too) fought for Agartha.

  • @feyko23 Thank you for your intelligent comment.

  • okay, in regards 2 "clock" & "counter" clock wise - s'pose 1 is left handed? in fact, let's suppose left handed ppl are the majority while right handed ppl are the minority. would "counter" clock wise be "good" & "clock" wise be "evil"? i know there's no such thing as "good" nor "evil" in philosophy, but i'm just making a point. left handed dominance is controlled by the RIGHT hemisphere of the brain while right handed dominance is controlled by the LEFT. so... what's your point exactly?

  • @qwyzl Forget the good/evil issue.

    Direction varies with culture. In western culture, we read left to right. So, clockwise is PROgressive and counter-clockwise is REgressive or RETROgressive. However, think of them as two sides of the same wheel turning--a giant mandalla. Next, collapse the thought that time is linear and consider it as a point. Then expand that point so that time equals eternity. Do the same with space. Now we are considering an unbounded time/space continuum.

  • @plumstreetmusic i have trouble with the concept of space and time as being tangible things. i saw a video about a black hole and i just dont get it. if time and space are INTANGIBLE, how can they get sucked in to a black hole? i get lost when it comes to this stuff. i just don't have the head for it.

  • @qwyzl The stuff is a real noodle baker. I doubt if anyone on this material plane of existence really understands it.

  • @plumstreetmusic i think physicists do. and people who are of genius level intelligence. but though i MAY - M A Y - under stand the words, i can not under stand the spirit of the thing.

  • @qwyzl It is called "the way of the left hand" and it means easy and fast way to a secret knowledge(magical)(just like Dark side of the force;>) That's good question with those brain hemispheres, but I think it is a bit out of the context.It is a deeper meaning of the words "left" and "right" and that is quite simple. I can bet You'd rather prefer to be called someone's "right hand" instead of the left...and it still have nothing to do with your brain's hemispheres...Regards

  • @nevergounder in some parts of the world water swirls counter clock wise when it goes down the drain. some thing to do with the earth's rotation. so there can't really be "good" or "evil" in a philosophical sense in regards to direction or left and right, etc. and "christians" don't help any thing with their association of "evil" with the left side of the body and "good" with the right side. but i think i under stand your point.

  • @qwyzl Right. Imagine turning a bicycle upside down and spinning the front wheel. Then either turn the handlebars or walk to the opposite side. Which direction is the wheel turning?

  • @urbanecondetroit exactly. and you know what else? even though i think i heard some where the heart is actually in the middle of the chest, most people would say it's on the LEFT. possibly be cause that's where the beat of the heart is more strongly felt. now wouldn't that make the left side of the body the "good" side assuming this is true? what with the heart being the thing that keeps you ALIVE? people really do get some weird ideas about things.

  • @qwyzl Interesting point. Yes, the heart is positioned slightly to the left. Also, I am left-handed. Left-handed used to be considered sinister. If fact that is what the root of the word means.

  • @plumstreetmusic i remember hearing that "christians" were SO up tight about left handed kids that they would FORCE them to learn to write with their right hands - like, if there was any validity to left handed kids being "evil" or "possessed", this wouldn't really be HELPING them to assimilate in to a crazy society and pass them selves off as "good" - but any way, these poor kids were MADE to learn to write with their right hands.  lucky for you "christians" have calmed down some what...

  • Brother Rudolf Steiner left the Thule Society when he saw the dark intentions he had, and was chased and killed by Hitler

  • @zyrilo That is the sense that I got from reading his autobiography and his Secret Societies. Burning the first Goetheanum just before his planned meeting with many church leaders, shooting one of his colleagues while lecturing, and the alleged poisoning of Steiner himself that left him weakened, dying a year later add to his earlier indictments of the darker side.

  • @zyrilo - the ones puppeting hitler to do that, are the same scumbags that operate in abundance online today, and of course elsewhere. i have a few of their 100000s of evil channels at this website listed at my channel comments.

  • @JustSomePerson888 I will look at your list. Thanks for the work.

  • @Tekilla7from7Rukahs Thank you for the assistance. I will.

  • @Tekilla7from7Rukahs We might describe them as two sides of the same coin or overlapping circles like a Venn diagram. I am still trying to figure out the split between Steiner and his esoteric Cristianity/Anthroposophy and a Blavatsky faction of the Theosophical Society in Berlin that is described as exoteric. Apparently the split began around 1904 and was complete around 1909.

  • @plumstreetmusic - don't listen to 'too much thinking' guy there, they are evil. turning off your critical faculties is so they can get into your mind, like an hiv virus shuts down the immune system warning and function.

    also in 1904 - wardenclyff stopped being funded, that paved the way for the fossil-fuel chokehold (alongside the anti-hemp conspiracy & some other ahrimanic evils like that).

  • @JustSomePerson888 I guess Tesla was goring someone's oxen. Have you ever read Edwin Black's book "Internal Combustion?"

  • @plumstreetmusic - hah, it'll have been flagged as spam by the reincarnation of someone i mentioned in it, or their false-immortal body.

    no i don't know the internal combustion book. funny comment about Tesla, cause he was vegetarian. but i think i see what you mean.

    that other part i don't know about offhand.

  • That's bullshit! Ariosophy is Esoteric NOT Exoteric in many ways! I think you are making some pretty broad generalizations here.

  • @deviantcreep I agree with you that there is a cross-over of exoteric and esoteric elements on both sides. However, it was the pronounced exoteric approach to Theosophy that started the split between Steiner( and Von Siever) and the Blavatsky faction of the Society around 1904.

  • @plumstreetmusic - 'However, it was the pronounced exoteric approach to Theosophy that started the split between Steiner( and Von Siever) and the Blavatsky faction of the Society around 1904'

    that's interesting, cause crowley fought with blavatsky too, and he had some control over hitler, such as via his hidden son (who may have been the same guy as hitler).

    that's also the Liber AL year - crowley and blavastsky fought over who aiwaz was too.

  • @JustSomePerson888 Your post was flagged as spam. I unspammed it.

    What do you think of the assertion that Hitler knew Von Liebenfels when Lanz was a monk in Adolf's home town (before going to school in Vienna)?

  • @deviantcreep Had another thought about this. If we took two circles-call one esoteric and the other exoteric--and overlayed them to their centerpoints, what would be in the vesica pisces of their intersection?

  • completamente erroneo

  • black sun isn't just a symbol hitler believed that he drew power from pure evil-black sun

    he believed it powered his new war weapons like VRIL and die glocke by covering them with very dark spritualy demonic symbols

    this man was crazy

    but was he right?

  • @TheMuffinator100 Hitler may have been merely a pawn for Thule (Tula), Vril and other secret societies referred to by Steiner. Vril took that name because of the energy source of that name. Die Glocke, Hannabue, and other technology may have been enabled by this source.

  • @plumstreetmusic yes but this man believed that icons and symbols gave it power

    in religions just saying names of things give them power what power would it get from using it's image and icons related to it

    it has a scientifical

    and not many people like to agree becuase there religions prohibit it

    but spritual side

  • @TheMuffinator100

    You're a fool then. There is no such thing as supernatural evil force. If such a force indeed exists, then it's what Jews and Anglos, not NS Germans, drew upon for power. Churchill was a the real genocidal beast, as was his partners in crime FD Bolshevelt and Josef "Man of Steel" Stalin. Get a clue, kid.

  • @VeraIcona100 i guess your right about that

  • @TheMuffinator100

    I'm not trying to be rude, but you guys have to start considering genocides by the Anglo-Saxon bastard race of non-whites, some 30 million in India alone since the late 1700s. For some reason you guys only consider the deaths of white peoples as deaths that constitute genocide. That is racist and insane. Hitler allied with Asians, Indians, Mongols and Arabs against the Anglo-Saxon white maniacs. Read Mukerjee's "Churchill's Secret War" and Munoz's "The East Came West."

  • @VeraIcona100 - 'Hitler allied with Asians, Indians, Mongols and Arabs against the Anglo-Saxon white maniacs.'

    that's true, some of this is about all that - cause the official religion of Mongol empire was Tibetian Buddhism, it's no coincidence Tibet got invaded after the date end of ww2, by false-communism.

    i'd say those scumbags are an evil supernatural force though, in the sense that they worship evil and believe it'll pay off to side with it.

  • @VeraIcona100 Stalin the only übermensch in the XX century. Fortius et Invictus. If you read Nietzsche you will realize that Stalin was the real superman in the XX century and not Hitler who was a frustrated loser.

  • @69Techno69pt - stalinism ruined what marxism was supposed to be about,

    watch?v=y2zjcCzURzk&

    Marx & Engels on the Environment

    industrialisation and nature-rape isn't super, and it's nothing the great ubermensch will ever be about.

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  • @JustSomePerson888 You never read a Karl Marx's book so please shut up. Fucking ignorant.

    

    Industrialization is the sublimation of Man ingenuity. To deny it is to show weakness.

  • @69Techno69pt This last comment got labeled as SPAM. I "unspammed" it. I hope that you, JustSomePerson888, Veracona100, and others keep the dialogue going. However, chill a bit on the expletives/deities.

  • An interesting video, I'm still rather sceptic could you quote some sources on Steiners involvement?

  • @gatver22 In his Autobiography, Steiner discusses his tenure with the Theosophy Society and his evolving departure from the early factions around 1904-1905 and his establishment of the Anthroposophy Society c. 1909. Also, take a look at his 1916 lectures/book on Secret Societies. Though he doesn't name names, some are obvious from his other writings. He does a good job of explaining why he and Maria broke away from the other Theosophic factions--especially those centered around spiritualism.

  • @plumstreetmusic I'm familiar with a few of Steiners works, unfortunately not his autobiography so I will have to delve into it. Although I understand the perpective you are taking here, Steiner still understood involution & evolution as essentials forces to cosmic development, they work as one within nearly every aspect of reality.

  • @gatver22 Very true. There is always a issue when attempting to explain the issue of the split in simple terms. One might say that that the Germanenorden and volkish movements took more of a course of involution. However, the movement that eventually was linked to Vril. Vril may be best described as evolutionary. One might say that the faction of the Berlin Theosophists from which Steiner evolved away allied themselves with movements and societies that corrupted the spiritual science beliefs...

  • @gatver22 (cont)... for their own ulterior purposes. Steiner grew more and more averse to this group, especially during the First World War. More than once, Steiner suggested that their negation of the spiritual was a cover up for their practices of manipulating the spirits of the assassinated and suicide victims for their own malfeasant ends. (see Steiner's discussions about doppelgangers, etc.)

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  • The connotation and denotation of terms has always made such matters difficult to discuss. However, the historical split really gelled when Steiner, who had presided over the Berlin group of the Theosophical Society broke away with his faction known as the Anthroposophical Society around 1909. The Anthroposophical group was more transparent while the remaining Theosophists became more cladestine through the end of WWI as they aligned themselves with various pro-Aryan groups.

  • Smacks of bull to me..

  • STEINER WAS AS DEDICATED TO THE DESTRUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY AS HITLER. THEY WERE, AS THIS VIDEO ILLUSTRATES, TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN.

  • @ChristianPatriarchy Interesting insight. I am interested in how you might interpret the ecumenical meeting that Steiner convened with 57 clergy members in which he delivered his his lectures "The Work of the Priest." and his work with Lutheran and Catholic priests to develop "The Christian Community." It seems that these efforts helped to form the core of resistance in Germany to the Nazi regime through WWII and the emergence of the Cristian Democratic Union at war's end.

  • @ChristianPatriarchy - except he made a sculpture depicting christs victory over ahriman....

  • great vid! just finished Studies in Occultism by Blavatsky, in it it states that Theosophy is for the betterment of all humans and anyone using occult practices to achieve a personal goal is dealing with black magic and therefore will wind up paying the ultimate price. Did Theosophists then break away from the Nazis? Blavatsky was originally used as a medium in the Thule Society correct? Thanks for answering these questions!

  • @nofutureface - my way of seeing it is that the Reich got infected - by the same evil that continues to control resources and impose its nature-abusing evil on the planet to this day, and all the various peoples in it or to do with it who weren't corruptable either left, or were faced with having to do a lot of juggling so as not to drop all the things they were tasked with holding and keeping safe.

  • I believe this whole occult conspiracy of the third reich to be absolute rubbish put together by the victors and beneficiaries of the war in order to demonize something that for once could have been great. Some of the stories of what happened seem to have been pulled out of a movie or a video game, and some of the shows I have seen like on the history channel for starters have are absolutly plain idiotic and ignorant. Over the years it seems zionists are becoming more and more arrogant.

  • @EinSieg14NS88 I've watched the History channel and some other "edutainment" pieces on the subject. However, I have been studying the works of Helena Blavatsky, Von List, Steiner, and others. We must remember that "occult" is not synonomous with demonology. It simply means known to a few. Also, this is a complex historical issue given that known industrialists and financiers allegedly attempted to use the NSDAP to their own ends in restraining the communists who threatened their capitalism.

  • @EinSieg14NS88 - it's always the same problem - the liars do anything to avoid having to exist in harmony with the cosmos / planet / etc. You can literally feel the evil attacking you off the TV paper pages with some of its nazi documentary descriptions & titles.

    Take for example their eradication of knowledge of things like herbalism, healing, dowsing, correct siting of anything - now that is the real 'satanic' blaspheme.

  • I'm sorry I don't quite understand. As for my channel I will make some adjustments. Also, b4 I was talking about my desktop BG. It is the floor of Wewelsburg and was reversed... I looked up Wewelsburg on the internet and then realized my image was edited. I have fixed this... :)

  • The bg on my comp. is reversed... I just looked it up on the net. lol I go back to my first comment....

  • @EinSieg14NS88 A ha! Arthur Koestler's "Ghost in the Machine" strikes again. I like your youtube channel. However, the contrast of the text against the background makes much of it difficult or impossible to read. I wonder if it's the same technical problem?

  • Thank you for your insight and taking the time to comment.

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  • @EinSieg14NS88 I just read the comment that you removed. I agree with you. I liked your analogy of near-sighted left eye and far-sighted right eye. Indeed, the the counter-clockwise and the clock-wise suns are two sides of the same coin. The observed direction of the spin depends upon which side one views the wheel. There is a passage in the old Tibetan texts that describes the "polar" unity of the two opposites.

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  • You know about Steiner's sculpture right? The one of Christ overcoming the Lucifer and Ahriman duality. If the energies involved are compared, what you get is the too-physical-only (ignores the soul, the aether etc) Ahrimanic and the too-spiritual-only (ignores importance of keeping physical reality ok) Luciferic - and they are very like Colonel Wiligut's people-of-the-stones and people-of-the-skies accounts (from The Secret King book).

  • @randomlaughingman Monism synthesizes Dualism.

  • @plumstreetmusic - the monad concept also coheres sub-particle physics with the Newtonian, but still some people refuse to See it. 

  • @randomlaughingman Steiner, his contemporary de Chardin (with his concept of the biosphere) and others helped to establish the basis for Chaos and Complexity Theory and lay the path for the transition from the mechanistic Newtonian to the "biological" approach of Quantum physics.

  • @plumstreetmusic - you need to be really careful, cause some of that is just fake secret-society gubbish. There's no transition required - Newtonian / mechanistic is how things work at this level, the sub-atomic applies to - the sub-atomic. There's no such thing for example as uncertainty in terms of what is going on sub-atomically, we just can't measure it well enough to state, for example, 'the electron is here at this time'.

  • @plumstreetmusic - the less-solid truths about the atomic and above sizes is to do with how solid matter also behaves as standing waves. Matter has frequencies it vibrates to, any object exists as (can be described by) its particles but also it is a waveform.

    There's a dum-ass conspiracy to try to take sub-atomics and apply it directly to atomic and above, it's part of the flawed logic to convince people that they make reality up entirely in their minds.

  • @randomlaughingman I began reading Steiner's "Secret Brotherhood: and the Mystery of the Human Double" last night. Your comment is taking on a deeper meaning as I read.

  • Wotan or Jesus is this Piscean Age (Icthyus, Delphi, Nile inundation, Neptune). The ying-yang is those two opposites, but it's one thing really, they can't be separated. It's dynamic equilibrium - to make the universe, the golden cut requires that one part is longer than the other.

    Steiner was one of many naturalists that weren't listened to properly, so we have this out of balance world that has ruined nature all the more than it did previously since 1945.

  • @DuffBeerDragon Perhaps we can can analogously say that the two sun wheels are two sides of the same coin. Can we define ying only in respect to yang, and vis a vis--a matter of relativity. Can current flow without positive and negative connections?

  • @plumstreetmusic - I was just more meaning that it wasn't as simple as say the Welwelsburg sun always standing for what the video said, and vice-versa. Duality of opposites is really a way of looking at things that the Piscean Age is concerned with, ie in the other 11 it doesn't come over that way.

  • @randomlaughingman As we go through this long dissolve from the Piscean Age into the Aquarian, much of this begins to seem like ancient history. Dividing monist concepts into dualities always seem artificial. In economics, one cannot neatly divide the subject into macro and micro or private and public sectors. I distributed a questionaire to delineate Exoteric from Esoteric personalities, only to discover that most people are somewhere in between the two extremes.

  • @plumstreetmusic - yeah of course, you can't learn much from surveys. You're giving people limited choices and scores or boxes to tick, it is only going to tell you things about yourself! Why did you choose those questions etc.

    It's a deeper problem than just consumer materialism, cause they give the impression they give up the soul for gains during life, but they are hypnotising themselves to not realise that they are not gaining anything in life either.

  • @randomlaughingman You are correct. Without one's soul, the experience of life is merely an illusion. Isn't it?

  • @plumstreetmusic - Yes. It's not even an illusion, without soul.

  • Hitler was not about materialism. This is completely wrong and as insane as saying the swastika moving in the counterclockwise direction is also anti-Nazi. More useless propaganda to further confuse people on what is the truth.

  • @heathenholiday The exoteric branch of Thule that financed Hitler and the early German Worker's Party were outward focused (exoteric) in their actions. This is not to say that Adolf Hitler was not introspective. His reflections during the writing of Mein Kamp reflect this. The semantics which can be confusing are in the meaning of the scientific-materialist point of view that guided the Vrill society. This is different than what is commonly meant by "materialism" eroding our modern society.

  • @plumstreetmusic - I can see their point though, the video presentation is kind of for people who are so stupid they didn't know about Steiner and Hitler and Thule - but think they can have opinions on the nazis or on biodynamics (or any form of agriculture etc). If they even heard of biodynamics, which is even more doubtful.

  • @randomlaughingman I am guilty of oversimplification in the 4 minutes and 9 seconds that I gave myself--even with the additional annotations provided. Mea Culpa.

  • @plumstreetmusic - the important thing about Steiner and Hitler is that en masse the entire world went the wrong way, in not following the kind of approach that Steiner had to do with.

    The core problems with society being that the systems are un-natural, harm the environment, and harm human health. They also ignore the soul and anything aetheric entirely, there is and has been a giant conspiracy to not even allow those truths to be utilised. It is the very basis of all that is wrong here.

  • @DuffBeerDragon Rudolf Steiner, Teilhard De Chardin, and others have been neglected in society's maniacal drive into consumer materialism. 

  • @plumstreetmusic - The actual 'alien threat' is already here, it's what is responsible for all the un-natural things and the type of economies that ruin the environment.

    None of them are evolved naturally from indigenous peoples of Earth (or any other planet for that matter), which is also why their agenda is to destroy the soul. They already enforced a daily existence that ignores the fact we have lightbodies / auras / souls.

    

  • @DuffBeerDragon I briefed myself on the work of the Disclosure Project and Steven Greer. Still trying to figure this one out. Any take on this?

  • @plumstreetmusic - I was in CSETI for a while way before Disclosure, it's basically a system drawn up to reveal the cover-up that's been going on in regard to the UFO topic. You just reminded me of something..

  • @plumstreetmusic - you know about the whole Nazi 'UFO' thing right? A lot of the cover-up is based on the movement of some of that to the USA after WW2. Sometimes that is used to claim they are all man-made, which isn't just rubbish it's simplistic and just part of that whole 'there's no soul' conspiracy.

    You might like to check out The Cosmic Pulse of Life (Bordelands published), it has similar topics in context of Ahrimanic technology and what 'the boys downstairs' are really up to.

  • @DuffBeerDragon The 1935 UFO crash in Germany, Vril, Operation Paperclip, the reformation of Thule by Wilhelm Landig in 1950. For crafts, I believe the two terms are ARV - alien replication vehicle, and ETV extra-terrestrial vehicle. Also, what had been development on both sides of the Atlantic since around 1920 and really began to flourish in the 1950s was what Pres. Eisenhower referred to as the military-industrial complex.

  • @plumstreetmusic - yeah I would say so too, the military-industrial - it used to have congressional on it too, but that was removed from the final speech (that's from the DVD extras on Why We Fight, if you want a source) - complex is pretty much what that is. They're building the Blade Runner nightmare dystopia, it went into wholesale overdrive after WW2 in the USA, all that fake propaganda about how great it is for machines to replace people power and spraying insecticides all over etc.

  • @DuffBeerDragon I've been watching Capra's classic for the past year in pieces as time allows. I haven't gotten to the bonus features yet, but I certainly will take a look today. I just received the "Complete Metropolis" for my birthday--the great-grand-daddy of all nightmare dystopia. As a believer in Film as Literature, I recognize the ability that the medium has to slip subtle anti-fake propaganda into the footage.

  • @heathenholiday (continued) If you recall, the National Socialist movement in Germany finally decided upon the counterclockwise Swastika after using both forms. The Tibetan reference to the meaning of clockwise vs counter-clockwise orientation and rotation presumably had an influence on this choice. In addition, we must remember that Steiner was an integral figure in the Theosophist movement until about 1910 when he initiated his esoteric group within, before moving in his own direction.

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