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  • I didnt think I couldnt be sicked and angered anymore by peta but this video just made me very sick and angery I would love to see the day that the wholed damned lot of them is locked up for good

  • they try to say humans are monsters and that animals should be free yet instead of giving animals good homes they kill them as such and not to mension in some palces there not legalised to do it and they treat humans like crap really i have to ask who's really the monsters here

  • The animals in this case were taken from shelters. PETA promised them that they would find homes for them, and they killed them the minute the animals were put into the van. All of the 60-70 animals that were found dead and dumped in dumpsters were all considered to be "adoptable". The shelters thought PETA was trying to help out and lessen their burden. So with these facts, how was what they did ethical? These were not scarred animals, these were not abused animals. So why?

  • A world without pets would be a lonely world. I have been living without a dog for a few months now, and I'm miserable. I get along better with animals then I do humans. PETA is just... unrealistic, cruel, and hypocritical.

  • @1VeganLove those who save animals by killing, use teen as naked models, pay arsonists to be free are the real hypocrites

  • I trusted them to be good because they said they were, they lied to everyone just to see young women naked (Look at every advert they ever do).

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    & we created the cats or dogs we see now for selfish reasons; beauty or hunting for us. But since I LOVE ANIMALS, i agree and disagree with PETA, agree because they help spread the word about animal cruelty, disagree since they could try better at rehoming animals.

  • I understand what they mean about "neutering until our pathetic version of our cat-", they simply mean animals cats & dogs were meant to be free not just decoration in our living rooms or family pets. Just like how lions or wolves deserve to be free.

  • Peta said they would save animals not re-home them.

    They technically are saving them they are doing the animals a favor and putting them out of their misery. Although they should try to re-home the ones that aren't completely traumatized.

    We should at least be thankful they show companies and people that hurt animals for what they truly are. The investigators risk a lot so we can know that truth.

  • @PsychedelicPony So, if no one wanted you, would you be okay with me killing you? Because that's what you're saying.

  • @PsychedelicPony These animals are being given to PETA specifically for re-adoption, and then they're killed almost immediately. They don't even bother trying to find new homes for them, they just kill 'em in the van. Meanwhile, the previous owners are horrified to discover that the happy, healthy puppy that they thought was going to a loving "forever home" has been thrown in the dumpster at the Piggly Wiggly.

    If most of these animals had any misery, it was that PETA was about to execute them.

  • Stupid terrorists, people like PETA just draw attention away from better, less extremist animal charities.

  • Seems like a totally reasonable (if hard to swallow) response to me.

    What would you have them do with these *unwanted* animals?

    Ask yourself not why PETA are euthanising them, but why the animals are there in the first place.

    And with regard to the final statement in the video - I think it's entirely possible to do both.

  • Since they are against pets and using animals for consumption, if PETA had its way, every single domesticated animal would be extinct. Yeah, I can see the "ethical treatment" there.

    I don't know about yours, but my dogs have a pretty charmed life as pets.

  • The only time i would kill an animal is if it couldnt live happily. if you ran across an animal that had been mauled by coyotes and was going to starve or bleed out, wouldnt you put it out of its misery? but what PETA is doing is killing perfectly healthy animals that are happy and want to live.

  • Since they think domestic cats and dogs are so pathetic and should be extinct it is no surprise they do their part by killing the vast majority of animals they take in. . Of course why would they even bother to try to find them homes when they think they should not even be in homes ? These people are sick and all of us who love our animals need to not support them and educate people to what PETA is really about. I cant believe at first i thought they were good.

  • Hey, what does "We do not advocate 'right to life' for animals" mean?

  • @CatATOMITON it means they dont believe that animals have a right to be alive. that they get to choose who lives and who dies.

  • PETA is nothing but a rerrorist organization worthless in my opinion nothing but hypocrites. A domestic taliban.

  • i do agree , they hate humans . They promotes sex with vegetables ,lesbianism,lesser known publicity hungry porn models and make money by so called ethical treatment very ethical indeed. why doesn't police raid PETA ??? i still wonders it .

  • @sitadriver worse than that, peter singer and newkirk support bestiality.. BESTIALITY.. theyre fucking disguisting

  • im sorry but we cant simply release domestic dogs and cats and live stock into the wild, they were BRED by HUMANS to be the way they are, sheep WERE NOT bred for their intelligence and would have trouble flourishing without human aid, jsut as we need them for food and cloth, its a two way street

  • to bad they kill almost every abandoned dog then..

  • btw peta kills most of the abandoned dogs they collect!

  • @ElksThinks several members have committed murder and they have killed over 14000 animals. many of these animals were kidnapped from their homes. some may have been aggressive but that is no reason to kill thousands of others that didnt do anything to harm people.

  • . petakillsanimals .

    PETA IST A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION!

  • wow

  • PeTA is a domestic terrorist organization that funded the arson at UW, attack on UCSF medical center and killed a logger a few years ago in eastern oregon. they dehumanize humans and play god with animals. they are the true hypocrites that must be held accountable for their true nature, which is no better than taliban. they push their agenda at any cost. by definition, they are a domestic terrorist groups.

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  • fuck you

  • **** your mom

  • And you actually believes the bullshit that PeTA tells you?

    PeTA has killed about 85% of the animals that they have stolen!

  • Hey, LaughPatrol. You said it yourself: YOU DON"T CARE. People are trying to tell you the truth, and you don't care.

  • I know what a dumb ass

  • oh yeah they saved countless animals all right. later to kill them. these fucks want pit bulls extinct. and yet they are more than willing to take the publicity from the micheal vick case. fuckers are crazy. animals need to be free. you know it has been proven some dogs can't survive without people. what am i suppose to do grab my 2 dogs and cat open the door and say leave? dogs love humans. same with cats.

  • @louis1152 i agree almost completely. i think its wrong they want to get rid of pitbulls but i also think its wrong that people bred the pitbull to have such a squished face because many of them have breathing problems. but that isnt a reason to kill them all.

  • saved countless killed everything else

  • @Redfox161616 the number is countless because its so low.

  • @LaughPatrol the number of animals they have saved is countless because its so low.

  • @LaughPatrol PETA also killed my dog and i will make sure to make there lives a living hell.

  • you know this video got targeted by false flaggers

  • i bet PETA did this.

  • i keep my peanut butter in my bedroom cuz pettas gonna takke it away cuz of peanut abuse... then throw it in a dumpster...

  • i dont get PETA either. i mean they want to save animals but why do they kill them?? thats just stupid. if you ever go to their website it seems so innocent and they dont say what they do after they save the animals. they have nice little pictures and videos about happy animals and how they were saved but thats just a way of covering their secret. i just think PETA is BULLSHIT!!! i dont know what to believe about them..

  • wow... peta really blows. i could write a long response stating my opinion but i think its already been thoroughly expressed

  • The problem with PETA is that they're for animal rights. Animal rights means giving animals the same rights that humans get. Animals have a lower intelligence than humans and are therefore a lesser species. That doesn't mean I advocate killing them for no reason, but I certainly wouldn't call them equal to any human being on this Earth. I support animal welfare which means taking care of animals and not harming them for pointless reasons. PETA doesn't care about that, which is why they suck.

  • Do you think a mentally handicapped child feels pain just as much as a regular person? sentient intelligence has nothing to do with response to pain you fool. Animals feel pain, get frightened & they think. Unfortunately society may have given humanity the legal right to kill animals but we don't have the ethical right. If a superior alien species came to earth & treated us just as we treat animals we'd consider them evil. Humans are garbage. We're not superior, we're just selfish & arrogant.

  • Ok. Let's consider them equal to humans then. That means applying the same laws, meaning ALL of them would be in jail for continuously committing crimes like murder, vandalism, robbery, invasion of private property, attack to modesty, illegal withholdment, and the list goes on...

  • instead of just complaining about peta or anybody else, provide a solution that has the financial resources to provide for stray animals

  • Thats does sound twisted. It doesn`t make sense, it rings of blatant hypocrisy. As an NGO, the public should have access to their accounts to see how the 30 million donation is utilized.

  • It isn't fair. Those dogs and cats deserved a chance to find a home and have people to love them! They deserved to find a family and be cuddled and petted and given treats! PETA didn't even give them a chance to find a family to love them. They want to liberate animals from being pets, and it shows: They would rather kill the animals than have them find a loving family and be a pet!

  • FUCK PETA!!!

  • Time to upload a new audio track

  • Beautiful video - exposing PETA for the fuckheads that they are.

  • People for the Extermination of Transient Animals should be their motto. PeTA supporters are the biggest hypocrites on earth. They embrace acts of violence against companies that are trying to save human lives while condoning those who enjoy a fucking hamburger. Get a real problem freaks.

  • take a perscription for said condition, it will go away, IF PETA gets their way, that is something i cannot let happen. For many reasons, many many people would die from not having the perscriptions they need, we would have a very limited variety of foods, so some people may starve(as if enough people arn't starving already...) While the clothes thing is not AS important, the pet thing is, i love my dog he is a miniture poodle, and i would brobly march to the PETA HQ and kick some serious ass

  • Or cause it discomfort, ohh wait PETA isnt for Animal Welfare(which is something i think is good) the want Total Animal Liberation, basicly, sever ALL ties between humans and animals, so no animal based food products, hamburgers, bacon, fish. NO PETS. NO clothes made of wool, or anyother thing from an animal, and for you PETAtards out there(or supporters of PETA) this is NOT A GOOD THING! this means if you eat meat, have a pet, wear wool clothes, have a medical condition of some sort and

  • stupid 500 chatacter count limit. Here is what PETA dosnt understand, Autism has a strong genetic basis, PETA this means it CANNOT be caused by and dairy product, (might be wrong) which is bull shit, another thing, PETA asked Baskin Robbins to stop using the milk form a cow, and to start using the milk,(anti PETA people, and people who love backin Robbins, your gunna love this) OF NURSING HUMAN MOTHERS!, now who thinks that is ok and should be allowed to hapen? how does that hurt the cow?

  • I'm so tired of PETA, they say they save animals, they MIGHT save a few but mostly the kill them in the vans, like in this video. That is only one of the reasons i hate PETA, here's anotherone, PETA did a 'study' saying that milk casues autism,if you are and idiot, here is kinda what autism is, Autism is a brain development disorder characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old.

  • But there's also the fact that other non-profit animal shelters manage to adopt out 70% of their animals while making shits and giggles for cash. PETA rakes in more than 30 mil a year. They have the resources, they just don't care.

  • Peta are a bunch of sick individuals made up of the Hollywood left.

  • Hey plenty of PETA whackjobs live outside of CA. I know plenty of people here that disagree with PETA.

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  • BlackSailsinSunset

    "The members of peta can only take in so many animals into their homes and can only do so much to try and give them away as pets. "

    Oh really? PETA KILLED 85% of all animals they "saved" while the Norfolk Virgina SPCA (same state as PETA HQ) saved 73% of animals they took in.

    As reported by Newsweek:

    w w w(dot)newsweek(dot)com/id/1345­49

  • sfgx123,

    Thats just like an animal shelter.

    Animal shelters euthanize 3-4 million animals each year. PETA, just like them, cant save them all.

  • Bulldog121201

    "Animal shelters euthanize 3-4 million animals each year. PETA, just like them, cant save them all. "

    LOL changed your tune did you? Just last week you claimed PETA killing animals were a lie.

    How can you defend PETA having a much larger annual budget than their neighbor Norfolk SPCA yet the shelter saves 73% of it's animals while PETA kills 85% of theirs? You're completely deluded.

  • LOL, you got him good! But sadly morons like "bulldog12121" are to dumb to comprehend when theyve been underwritten.

  • Based on the police evidence, these PETA workers also dumped the animals they killed into trash dumpsters. The dead animals included kittens.

    Even if your hipocritical excuse of animal "murder" was in any way valid, how do you justify the treatment of the animal carcasses? I thought all animals were precious to PETA. Shouldn't they deserve a proper burial or cremation?

    Explain that to us before you wax on poetic about how much PETA loves animals.

  • I find it ludicrous that PETA members see nothing hypocritical between their charter and their killing of animals. Or as you people remind us the MURDER of animals. PETA founder went on record to say "A rat is a dog is a boy".

    Based on their reasoning, their murder of animals and justification for said actions the killing of unwanted children is a perfectly acceptable act.

    So tell me do you advocate the murder of children? Because if you say no then you just crapped all over your leader.

  • Well, I dont

  • Bravo, you pretty much summed up the whole thing there. But don't forget that PETA is for BSL as well, they want to exterminate so called 'violent and severally abused' breeds. They don't want to kill just the bad ones, they want to get rid of entire breeds. They want to get rid of dogs like the German Shepherd, and Mastiff, and even certain terriers. Their main target is of course the APBT. But I guess they'd rather kill animals then send them to loving homes.

  • yoroloco,

    Who cares if a few "severely abused" breeds go extinct? Extinct means safe forever

  • That is a messed up way of thinking. "Let's kill them all to protect them"?!

    Since you PETA people say humans and animals are equal; should all African Americans have been killed back during slavery, even the free people, because some of them were slaves?

    Many animals of breeds known for fighting have wonderful homes. And if those particular breeds went extinct, they people fighting them would just move onto another breed. You'd want all of that next breed to be killed as well?

  • You need to open your eyes. PETA isn't after just a few breeds anyway, PETA are a bunch of crazy animal rights people with way to much time and money on their hands. Their main goal is to end all animal ownership.

  • Damn your good! More of your replys please, stick it to these peta fucknuggets!

  • Amazing how people can still be brainwashed into thinking they are so great.

    Humans are naive and cruel. Fuck, we're like a virus...destroying the earth.

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  • this is just sick.

  • PETA = SCAM

  • You = Naive

  • Ok. So people dont like PETA partly because they euthanize most of their animals just like any other shetler?

  • HOOT1012

    "Ok. So people dont like PETA partly because they euthanize most of their animals just like any other shetler? "

    And at the same talk about saving all animals out of the other side of their mouth, supporting destruction of private property, against medical advancement while all their members benefit from modern medicine, assaulting research institutions, etc...

    You know, just being general hypocritical assholes.

  • PETA does great things for animals

  • ok... they euthanized 14,000 animals... becaus they were suffering...

    and the americans killed 8.9 Billions of chickens just last year!

    and what about the cows, pigs, turkeys, ducks and every other animal?

    this is nonsense.

  • You want nonsense, you stupid ass named tonkaviev, try the fact that you do not comprehend the fact that by supporting a vegetarian lifestyle for humans that you risk destroying the whole damn world. I would go into depth into the issue but there IS a 500 character limit on a single post, you know.

  • Ok I dont get this.

    So because PETA euthanizes most of the animals they get, just like animal shelters across the nation, everyone is saying screw peta?

  • Sounds about right HOOT, these people think they are revealing the hypocrisy of peta by saying they kill animals. The members of peta can only take in so many animals into their homes and can only do so much to try and give them away as pets. The source of the problem is the overbreeding of animals leading to too many animals that cannot find a home and peta is doing everything it can to slow the breeding industry.

  • Peta protests such euthination, that is exactly why we say a big ass fuck you to peta. Shelters cant euthinize after a set period (safely and using steryle equipment, btw) but peta can euthinize minutes within "saving" an animal and reusing needles. Cute.

  • Please explain how PETA are a cult? There is no duty surrounding being a member and they do not push their members into doing anything they do not want to. Please go away and look up the word cult before you use it so loosly.

    Lee xxx

  • companies such as coca cola fund political parties... so of course spins doctors are going to get involved if theres a risk of losing money. records can be changed and people can be bribed. its happened before.

    Im not a conspiritory theorist, although I do support a lot of PETAs work and I think its ashame that disgusting corporate companies with no ethics can really be so aggresive towards an organisation that really has nothing to with them.

    Lee x

  • As opposed to Peta's "ethics", LOL!!!! Cults who openly endorse arson and firebombing as a useful means of prompting change have no room to question the ethics of others.

    The CCF has nothing to do with the hypocrisies of Peta. This band of cultist have no problem exposing their misguided, myopic beliefs all by themselves.

  • PETA do not endorse any society that Currently take part in "Firebombing" or Arson. Where have you got this information? The only case i know of that i think you could be talking about is that the leader of ALF once destoryed a building however has now publicly admitted his mistake as being irresponsible. The organization recive money from PETA but when he did this he was not affiliated with PETA so they can accept no blame.

  • Arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are acceptable crimes when used for the animal cause.

    — PETA co-founder Alex Pacheco

    Would I rather the research lab that tests animals is reduced to a bunch of cinders? Yes.

    — Ingrid Newkirk New York Daily News

    I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down.

    —Newkirk "National Animal Rights Convention", Jun 1997

  • " as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows.I think its a great way to bring about animal liberation. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it. [click here to listen]

    — Bruce Friedrich, PETAs vegan campaign coordinator

  • So I should believe you some random person parroting how wonderful Peta is over its cofounders and their vegan campaign director, in regards to their beliefs about firebombing and arson?

  • So, I should beleive some person who says PETA kills animals?

  • Peta turns in their annual animal kill totals to the Virgina Department of Agriculture and Human Resources every year. If you honestly believe they don't kill animals you are willfully ignorant.

  • Ill take that as a compliment

  • no, but cold hard prood is acceptable. Its quite easy to get the tax returns of a public non profit administration, and within you may find what they obtain. Also, look into their licenses to handle venoms and poisons. You'll be pleasently surprised.

  • Yes they kill animals, as do so many other animal shelters, no one has looked into what type of animals they take in. perhaps more sick/unwanted than others?

    All this anti peta propaganda has came about due to the Center for Consumer Freedom, an organisation funded by the likes of Coca cola, KFC and Wendys. CCF are also against Mothers Against Drink Drivers and other so called "Activist groups" that might dicrease the funds of these companies. We live in a corrupt world where...

  • I agree with Bulldog

  • Can the maker of this video please put up references for it? The only reference that appears to be used is PetaKills, funded by anti peta companies thus bias against the organisation.

    The quote by peter singer is also taken out of context (read the first chapter of animal liberation).

    The PETA workers charges were dropped in a court of law, thus proving their innocence. in a democratic society is that not the case? innocent until proven guilty?

  • Liberationfrequency1, you made an excellent point. I went on frantically searching for references, and every site states the government records of Virginia State Veterninarian (Center for Consumer Freedom). But would they go to such measurse to falsify/make up gov't records? (They took it to court)

    You also state that Cook and Hinkle proved their innocence. But I think you're missing the point. It is now a fact that PETA kills animals... ironically by the donations of those who love animals.

  • go to PETA Kills they have back up proof to all they say

  • i dont get it. are peta the ones that kill, or save the animals???? what is it that they really do???

  • They claim they "save" animals, but in reality, they kill more shelter animals each year than any other organization.

    PETA makes me sick!

  • You make me sick

  • I make you sick?

    Any that is why..?

    Let me guess.. because I don't support your disgusting "precious" little organization? Give me a break and grow up for god's sake.

    PETA is probably the most HIPPOCRATIC Organization out there.

    Like I said before, PETA is a bunch of BS, they kill more shelter animals than ANY other organization!!

  • iLoVeMyGolden94,

    It looks like your the one who needs to damn grow up! Shelters also millions of animals. So, are you gonna say screw shelters cause they kill animals to?

  • No I am saying that PETA should stop being a bunch of hypocrites! They are a disgusting organization.

    It's not only this, its the fact that they support BSL. That my friend, is sickening. How could anyone support that?

  • Well, Looks like I can!

  • How could you support BSL?

  • Hey, I dont. Yes, I support PETA, but that doesnt mean that I support everything that they beleive or do.

  • This video is a bunch of fucking lies. There is no real proof that PETA kills animals with just a bunch of pictures of dead animals.

  • the facts in this video have been proven many times over, the pair of puppy and kitten killers admitted under oath to killing animals in the back of a peta owned van, and dumping their lifeless carcasses into a grocery store dumpster. you conveniently ignore these irrefutable facts because your willfully ignorant, and a brainwashed puppet.

  • And is that their first time damn time?

  • Bulldog121201, you're not being serious, right?

    If you're competent enough to use the internet and leave comments on YouTube, I'd assume you can use search engines and verify the statements concerning PETA.

    It's old news that PETA turned out to be the most hypocritical, lying organization. I'm just concerned because your comment gives out the impression of you supporting such group.

    If you're an animal lover, stay far away from PETA.

  • Yes, I am deathly serious. Having been a PETA supporter for many years, I will not listen to any of this insane gibberish that "peta kills animals".

  • Sorry, but its true. Look it up.

  • "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertran Russell

    "Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." -Laurence J. Peter

  • Rights movements never go away.

    They always get stronger.  -Ingrid E. Newkirk

  • go to peta kills site,they have back up proof to all they tell

  • As a hunter i'm constantly being bothered by anti-hunter's. And this is what peta doe's to animal. What a bunch of hypocrites.

  • Great video. I still can't believe that people still support them.

  • Wow, that's pretty terrible.

    I hugged my dog and my cat after I watched this video.

    ]:

  • Whats wrong with me having a dog for a pet?

  • Is it just me, or does Ingrid Newkirk look like a drag queen?

  • This is all a bunch of fucking bull shit.

    what do a bunch of picturs prove? Ill tell you

    what... NOTHING there is no real evidence here

    and until there is, I will continue to be a

    strong supporter of PETA

  • Bulldog121201,

    Odd that you now claim that a "couple of pictures prove nothing" and yet a couple of pictures and often misleading captions are all PETA supporters have to influence their opinions.

    If you cared about animals, you'd look into the record of the people you're backing.

    Following people blindly just because they claim to care about animals, pretty much makes you responsible for the actions of those you support.

  • Well,true to my point, there is no real evidence that they killed all of those animals.

  • Only their confessions under oath, and the fact that police officers watched them dump dead animal carcasses into grocery store dumpsters. Other than that, there's really not much too it. Oh, and they were convicted of illegally dumping dead animals.

  • "I informed Andy that I wanted him to bring the animals one at a time. And I went into my van, and I prepared my van to start euthanizing animals. So I put blankets down, and, and got food out. I would feed -- I would typically give dogs canned cat food as a treat before I euthanized them, because dogs typically really like canned cat food." -Adria Hinkle "I knew that dumpsters were typically behind grocery stores. And it was an area that was not viewable by other people."

  • Asbell(attorney): "And what did you do to investigate?"

    Hinkle: "Drove around. I mean, I didn't do much to investigate. I found that dumpster and I used that dumpster."

    These quotes are taken directly from the horses mouth, under oath, in a court of law. Still not believing they slaughtered these healthy animals in the back of a Peta owned van? These transcripts are public records, viewable to anyone.

  • wharffratt...

    WAIT...

    Canned food... made out of OTHER ANIMALS?!!!

    That would be, hypocritical.

    GASP

  • That, and happily benefiting from the results of animal based testing, yet determined and adamant about denying those same testing benefits to others in the future, who don't share their delusional, brainwashed, dogmatic views.

    See Peta's Sr. vice president Mary Beth Sweetland and the shot of insulin she injects everyday, an insulin shot that was derived from animal based testing.

    got hypocrisy??

  • Bulldog121201,

    Perhaps their own records then?

  • MajorShootinPayne

    And do you have access to PETA`s records then?

  • as a tax exempt organization PETA's record are open to the public you can go to the Virginia department of agriculture and consumer services online animal reporting.

  • Their public records, as Peta is non profit, allegedly. Every single dime that Peta has donated to terror cults like the Alf, and penny they have used to defend firebombing arsonist in court are in documents that are made public record, accessible to anyone anywhere. Peta's tax records, purchases, and donations are all made public knowledge, per law.

  • Adria Hinkle and Andrew Cook admitted under oath to killing the animals in the back of a Peta owned van, and to dumping the bodies in a supermarket dumpster. I guess their trial the federal court transcripts containing their admission is bullshit as well?

  • I'll eat a burger in support

  • Good for you. I hope its a vegetarian burger

  • peta should die like the sick fucks that they are

  • I own six rodents, by the way. (: But if lab research could cure AIDS or Cancer (which kills many cats & dogs, too!) then I support it. Peta is fucking retarded.

  • Urgh, PETA is a pathetic fucking excuse for terrorism. They should be locked up & have the key thrown away.

  • whats up with all the sleeping dogs? ;DD

    they dont have no injurys or something like that :s

  • Well the sad thing is, is that nobody adopts the dogs (or cats etc) and it is too expensive to house/feed the animals so they put them down.

    You can thank people who don't neuter their dogs/cats and breeders. Hundreds of thousands of dogs are put down each year, and breeders continue to breed animals just so they can make money.

    It's a sick and disgusting cycle, and should be stopped.

  • Pincus666,

    I'm sorry, but the ASPCA handles massive volume compared to PETA and still has better numbers.

    They seem to think that the word "rescue" means "kill."

    Puppies, kittens... There are puppies and kittens with no mark on them, or sign of malnourishment or disease in those pics.

    Cute ones. Animals that would have a very high likelihood of being adopted anywhere else. I think that PETA's policy can be inferred from Newkirk's statements.

    PETA is the meatgrinder of expediency.

  • I agree completely that PETA could of done better, but comments like "peta should die" are a bit extreme. PETAs done a lot for the animal rights movement, which is great, and that have also done other not-so-honorable stuff, such as this.

  • Pincus666,

    There sees to be something very sadly ironic in that. It is as if they started out with a nice idea, built upon it, and then just went completely insane.

    I don't buy the animals=humans argument but believe that even livestock deserve decent standards of treatment and a humane death.

    funding people who blow things up and burn things down is bad enough, but they seem to have sacrificed even their own ideals.

  • Hmm, we have a difference of opinion here. I fully support direct action, and groups like the Animal Liberation Front (ALF).

    I support direct action that takes place where animal abuse occurs, and not random building, just for the media attention.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the people who are only aware of groups like the ALF because of news reports/the media think they randomly/indiscriminately vandalise and burn down buildings, for the media attention.

    Direct action can be very effective.

  • Pincus666,

    Well then. I'm sorry, but I can't agree with supporting the use of militant force for this.

    Protesting, sure, picketting, sure, boycotts and rolling around nude on a giant BBQ grill in the middle of Times Square... sure.

    Risking injury and death to themselves and others for this is not acceptable.

    If PETA practiced what it preached it would be following Ghandi's example, not Al Quada's.

  • Well then, you have your opinion and I have mine.

  • "for this"

    I'll simply say, direct action and the associated risks are nothing compared to what the animals go through.

  • your right. there not

  • Pincus666,

    "Direct action," a euphemism for violence, has worked so well in the past hasn't it?

    It's so well directed and focused.

    If a passer-by is exposed to "direct action" by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, they could die.

    Peaceful demonstration also stands up better as a test of credibility.

    If a passer-by is exposed to a peaceful demonstration, they take away with them that you practice that which you advocate. Hard for a sit-in or picket line to cause a death.

  • Well, your right about that. But I have to say i have to advocate both.