scan mmo is a good idea but i wish this could be turned into a movie how sadly i dont know it would focus more on space battles than character stories
Seeing as how Star Trek Online failed miserably and crashed and burned, I would love to see this game turned into an MMO, if done by the right people, it could do better than Eve Online, Black Prophecy, and JumpGate Evolution.
I liked how they gave a reason for the Beast to have avoided HW2 entirely, without eradicating them from the Homeworld universe. It in essence still existing in Hyperspace and potentially in pockets of resistance in normal space.
I mean the Naggarok wasn't Progenitor, but it comes from a similiar time.
@Pondsisini The Progenitors were highly AI based (For example the keepers, gun drones and mover bombers). As you may or may not know, the Beast cannot control AI vessels due to the lack of biomass (Aka a crew/pilot). The exception to this rule is the Beast hive frigate which the Beast modified from schematics. So while it is a good theory, it is unlikely.
Wow I never even heard about this game. Completed HW 1&2 but never saw of heard of this. Unfortunately after HWII this would feel like a step backwards so I think I'll skip it. Looks good for its time though.
@Restayvien It's not a step backwards - rather a step sideways. You'll be deeply satisfied after you play this game, especially if you're a true fan of the HW universe you'll be delighted by the HW lore that is in this game. (they creatively and seamingly expand on where HW left off; be sure to read HWC's manual, too).
this was the best of the homeworld games, but i did like homeworld 2, i would like to watch the cinematics from all of the games but i can only find a few..
i love the music and campaign of hwc in my opinion it has the best campaign out of the 3 games. its online wasn't as good due to the retarded cost of hyperspace and slow ass harvesting.
thats why i learned to mod and added some light improvements =P
I call it poor judgement, It's kinda like one of the things that would be included in a "100 ways to die in a Homeworld strike craft" video. Some of the other included things would be flying head on into an asteroid, and trying to solo a missile destroyer
@wearetheninjasofpie LOL GAHH GET THE FUCK OFF OF ME YOU BEAST INFECTING SONS OF BITCHES GAHHHHH !!!!!!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM oops i shot the controls >.> great now im stuck with the stupid thing
all homeworld games are great i dont think i have a fave though. the first one had the most impact on me because back then it was completely new concept but all the games are amazing. and i wouldnt want the next homeworld to change just to be new..
i totally agree with ghost1800, barking dog didnt have a huge budget to make lots of flash cut-scenes and re-design the VFX engine with, so what they did with cataclysm is imo extreamly impressive, even though large parts of the game were esentially canabilised from the first homeworld. (VFX, unit architecture, mapping etc)
one of the best video game series made in my opinion, but i think this game took a big shit on the first homeworld-stilla good game but i think it wreecked the series.
I for one think the cut scenes in HW2 are the best in the series - the whole thing has a much more cinematic and dramatic feel. The production value for the cut scenes is much much higher in HW2.
Yea, and it is also about 2 or 3 years newer, so it is bound to be more impressive anyway. This game was also not even produced by the same people as homeworld 1 and was actually significantly lower budget.
@RogueCannon When I was younger I really loved this game and the feeling, now i look at it, Its basically Blob zombies I don't feel the story was better than the original Homeworld 1 storyline
i liked the first shot of the battle sequence, its a really long shot for a video game, its the one where it follows the two taiidan intercepters to the ion frigate, then pans up to see the carrier and intercepters kamikaze in to the carrier
Then again, this is exactly why the campaign was so immersive and exciting. It had you sneaking through nebulas, acting out decoy operations, salvaging useful wreckage, escorting refugees, picking up an exposed operative out in deep space... the campaign really made you feel like you were out there to accomplish something both in each mission and as a larger picture.
The music and camera work during the cutscenes were great, and the voice acting, while not great, definitely kept you immersed.
me too, although i often tweaked strike craft to have 10000 armor and firepower ;) but finishing any game without cheats feels better so now i'm stuck at lv8 in HW1
Homeworld Cataclysm isn't compatible with Windows 2000/ME, XP or Vista. It's based on Windows 95 and 98. You can download a patch though. I think. Have a look around the web and see what you can find.
are you kidding?! HW 2 is the best one!... because of its graphics and controls, i mean the controls in HW is pretty bad, though the HW 2 storyline can be debated...
I'm scared abaut it, because today a lots of game is "going down", example: the neighburs from hell( the 3rd is very bad), the empire earth 3 is also very bad, vhile the 1st and 2nd was great.
I always desperately hope for a HW3, and I posted exactly what I thought the storyline should be at Relic forums so hopefully someone important saw it!
The Kun-Laans mothership design may not be the best one but all the Somtaaw ships have way better characteristics (spelling!! i know i got something wrong there) and adaptability than the original Higaran fleet their ships being able to do double duty (except for the mimics and leeches)!!
Actually, I think the Kuun-Lan is the best mothership design... We should really keep in mind, though, that comparing the Kuun-Lan to the motherships most Homeworld fans think of when they hear the word (I.E. The original Kushan mothership and the Tiidan command vessel) is really like compared apples and oranges...
First off, unlike the Kushan mothership (which was designed to ferry hundereds of thousands of colonists about) and the Tiidan flagship (which was only designed to be impressive to look at, being little more than a massive penis extension for the Tiidan emperor), the Kuun-Lan is designed to be a fully operational starship for use by miners who simply have to be adaptable to survive... Thus, it's smaller than the motherships of HW1 and modular...
I personally like how the Kuun-Lan's guns actually worked and worked fairly well (as opposed to the guns on the HW 1 motherships, which don't tend to work very well if at all) and how it could over time be completely refitted from a bluky mining ship to a surprisingly slick war vessel complete with my favourite mega-cannon of all time... And beyond that the Kuun-Lan just looks cool and I think represents the personality of the Somtaaw miners perfectly...
Again, comparing the design to the 'big' motherships is rather like compared apples and oranges... You're better off comparing it to the Turanic armed carriers (technically a mothership class) or the Kadeshi needle ships... The former, while putting ion beams on a carrier is a nice idea, is too blocky for my taste and I've never been too keen on the whole 'space dart' thing... I guess the Kadhesi motherships just seem a little bit flimbsy... Then again, you might say the same for the Kuun-Lan...
Finally there's the Bentusi tardestations and the beast mothership... The latter is damn ugly and the former, cool as it is with an awesome appearence and golden ion cannons, one you don't get to control it and two, there's just something about reactionless drives that get on my nerves...
That's just my opinion though... Truth be told, most (if not all) of the mothership designs in Homeworld rock... I just love the Somtaaw command ship in particular is all... :D
Sorry for not replying faster and thank you for such a long presentation of your opinion on the Homeworld (mother) ships designs! I agree with you pretty much all the way except for the Bentusi Tradestations because i love the reactionless drives they're using (faster and better :D)!! Taking your ideas even further, i have to say that the Somtaaw ships are superior to any homeworld armada i've seen, even the HW2 ships both vaygr and higarian no matter how silly the comparation may seem!
For example my favourite ship design is the Somtaaws "Archangel" Dreadnought! The design of the ship has been reversed engineered from the bentusi tradeships and equiped with a blistering array of weapons designed not just for capital kills but also for strikecraft attacks! 2 long range ion cannons and 6 missile bays for capital and frigates, 4 energy cannons for fighters and bombers and the Repulsor weapon good against...... anything! That ship packs the best "big guns" punch out of them all!!
Oh, hell yea... The Somtaaw Dreadnought will fuck... you... up... plain and simple... The reason it kicks so much ass is because of its use of combined arms, which the 'Deacon' Destroyer also uses... Missile destroyer and regular destroyer all in one package? Yes please! On the flip side, my least favourite dreadnought design would have to be the Kushan 'Avatar' Heavy Cruiser... I just don't like it's design much, smaller and less impressive than the Taiidani Qwaar'Jet...
True! The Avatar is smaller and less impressive but at least it packs the same punch as the Qwaar'Jet (otherwise it would have really sucked)! Plus if modded in HW2 it would pawn and the other newer designs: the battlecruiser, the vaygr cruiser maybe even the progenitor dreadnought or Sajuuk (though super acolytes would cream Sajuuk way faster and better)!
First off, actually, ALL equivalent Kushan and Taiidan ships have the same firepower, but usually the Taiidan ships have much better coverage... Case in point, the support frigates... The Kushan Matriarch has such horrible coverage that it almost never fires, whereas the Taiidan Heeshk actually isn't bad at taking down the occasional strike craft... This even though they have identical firepower (though the Matriarch has only one turret, where as the Heeshk has two each with half the strength)
Second, actually, no I don't think the Archangel would beat its equivalents from the HW 2 era... Not that we could really test it anyway because the attack ratings and firepower are (I believe) handled completely differently in HW 2 from how they were in HW 1 and Cataclysm... Regardless, there is no doubt the Archangel is an awesome design...
Third, you mention the HW 2 designs... If you ask me, there's something wrong with the ship designs in HW 2 that I've never quite been able to put my finger on... I just... don't like the overall 'style' of the HW 2 designs... I wish I could be more specific, but again, I just can't put my finger on exactly what the problem is...
In my case i don't like the filled with antennas and armor plating and all sorts of things hull design! The ships don't have clear design, a certain flow of the hull (except Progenitor ships and the Bentus...they lack this problem), they are drowned in way too much details, antennas or god knows you can attach to the hull and not matter for the function of the ship!
"Filled with antennas" huh? Hey, actually, you're right, the larger ships (paricularly the Hiigaran battlecruiser) do indeed have of alot of seemingly random rod things sticking out of the hull in semi-random places... What's going on there? I guess that might be the problem... a lot of the hull designs feel... grubby... untidy... Like the ship wasn't sanded and painted properly before leaving the yards... God, that actually looks really terrible... :/
Damn balancing (this goes for both of your replies)! And i agree the taidan are bit better plus they are evil and during 2 cutscenes you can hear that taidans speak russian (another hint is their science vessels....MIR reloaded)!!
And how does speaking Russian make them any more evil than they already were, pray tell?
As for balancing, that's not the problem... The problem I can see is that, as I said, I believe the combat system is handeled quite a bit differently in HW 2 as to how it is in HW 1 and Cataclysm, thus making comparing the Archangel to its HW 2 equivalents pointless...
That was a "joke" from the Homeworld Shipyards site from the taidan science vessel info page (russians are "evil"...dear god)! And for the combat it's not different (except for subsystems) or at least i haven't felt it during the play! And with the balancing i meant a longer range for the dreadnoughts ion cannons, to be similar to the one that he battlecruiser frowns with for example!
The dreadnought doesn't shoot as far as the battlecruiser so the battlecruiser could pawn it from afar......(a situation in a imaginary game/mod that includes every race from the HW saga.....good thing if they make one but god i wouldn't like to fight against the players whou would use kadeshi....those guys owned me so many times in the nebula)*everything i wrote above doesn't make any sense doesn't it*
YAY i found it and i can set up a game .. every one who wants to coronate a game should message me 1st saying you want to have a HWC reunion. and secondly with your GMT, then i will send out a message 2 every one with a time and date. =) cant wait to play you guys.
i cant find my HWC disk. im going to buy a new one soon. i would be more then happy to play the old HW games with some ppl. its been for ever and i really miss the good online battles i use to have. add me here and as soon as i get a new HWC disk ill PM every one and try to set something up ;)
alot of players also use hamichi now so if u look on the Serra/Relic forums u should find the server info. they started using hamichi cuz they were sick of the normal online servers crashing.
yeah, i'd be reticent to share with people who treated me like dirt. i get the feeling that somtaaw become nomadic/live out of their ships once they specialize as "beast slayers".
I don't agree, Cataclysm is imo the best game in the series. I love what they did with the Bentusi, now they're actually enigmatic and interesting. And the Beast is one of the coolest villains ever.
dude,i agree with you but i've seen lots of ppl saying that HW1 was the best, etc!! Anyway this was the first game from the series i've played and it's brilliant! I love this game and kiith somtaw is better than the original, kushan ppl and the beast.....the infection cutscenes are friggin scary!!
Indeed. The infection scenes are awesome because they're so simple, subtle and yet so terribly effective. The crew screams for the last time, and then falls silent for ever.
i was 14 when i played this game fro the first time and even at that age i could feel the awesomenes of the scenes as for the bentusi...the mission when you have to protect the tradestation...it's cool because the bentusi beat the crap out of the whole beast fleet......oh well until the heavy cruiser infects the station!!!
they may be unoriginal (though more mysterious than the zergs...yeah i think they are kind of alike) but they still hard to beat and with their infection beam...hmmmmmmm...wonder if they could infect progenitor ships...and they are not zombies they/it are/is a smart organism able to manipulate the taidans for example in order to survive and achieve their goals....a stupid zombie wouldn't be able to do that!!!
"There is something wrong here. A presence. We sense its hunger. Not infant race. Not Unbound. Something other. Something older. Something from Outside! It tears at Us! Rewriting Song. Devouring memory. Turning Our Body against us...Blinding Us!!! This cannot be... WE... WILL... NOT... BE .. BOUND!!!" — Bentusi
Online play was wrecked by a pretty awful patch, and the nail in the coffin was some peoples insistence of destroying the resources around other teams starting areas with fighters despite even the designers saying this was an unintended bug an exploit. People quit arguing with those idiots and moved on to other games.
The thing that pissed me off in the first mission was that the Taiidan had energy cannons on their heavy cruiser before anybody else was using them. Good video though and thanks for the upload.
Storywise i don't see anything wrong here. Energy cannons were invented by Taiidani, and later stolen by Hiigarans. We do not know wether energy cannons were invented before storyline or during it, but since they appear in 1st mission it's safe to assume it was before. That's all. :)
scan mmo is a good idea but i wish this could be turned into a movie how sadly i dont know it would focus more on space battles than character stories
Imperial5555 3 weeks ago
@Imperial5555 an*
Imperial5555 3 weeks ago
5:27 "Target that explosion and fire"
Hahahahahahahaa star trek easter eggs
viceadmiralcongo 2 months ago
i love hw cataclysm, i agree its way better than hw2 in history and even in design.
animejoao 3 months ago
@CosmicEquilibrium how do you think should it look like?
CalevraGameing 3 months ago
Seeing as how Star Trek Online failed miserably and crashed and burned, I would love to see this game turned into an MMO, if done by the right people, it could do better than Eve Online, Black Prophecy, and JumpGate Evolution.
CosmicEquilibrium 5 months ago 2
@CosmicEquilibrium not too sure about the eve online part. as much as I loved HW growing up I don't think it'll beat Eve as an mmo.
GameBoiBoi 2 months ago
lol battle Rorqual! (gotta b some Eve players passing thru?)
P4nicFaceKing 6 months ago
Just 1 word: Awesome!
valknifa 6 months ago
I liked how they gave a reason for the Beast to have avoided HW2 entirely, without eradicating them from the Homeworld universe. It in essence still existing in Hyperspace and potentially in pockets of resistance in normal space.
I mean the Naggarok wasn't Progenitor, but it comes from a similiar time.
Just imagine an infected Sajuuk!?
viralhatred 10 months ago
@viralhatred Perhaps they are what brought the progenitor's downfall, but the naggarok race destroyed most infected progenitor.
Pondsisini 8 months ago
@Pondsisini The Progenitors were highly AI based (For example the keepers, gun drones and mover bombers). As you may or may not know, the Beast cannot control AI vessels due to the lack of biomass (Aka a crew/pilot). The exception to this rule is the Beast hive frigate which the Beast modified from schematics. So while it is a good theory, it is unlikely.
viralhatred 8 months ago
@viralhatred Keepers and movers are AI, dreadnaughts and Sajuuk are not. Surely the progenitors had mor manned ships.
Pondsisini 8 months ago
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@viralhatred Keepers and movers are AI, dreadnaughts and Sajuuk are not. Surely the progenitors had more manned ships.
Pondsisini 8 months ago
Don't skip this game, As far as story and gameplay go, It's a lot better then HW2
Khuratokh 1 year ago
Just goes to show you, very well made games can still get your heart going, even when they begin to look dated.
Felcaster 1 year ago 2
Wow I never even heard about this game. Completed HW 1&2 but never saw of heard of this. Unfortunately after HWII this would feel like a step backwards so I think I'll skip it. Looks good for its time though.
Restayvien 1 year ago
@Restayvien
And I say that if you could afford to, you shouldn't skip it. I played this back when it first came out, and it's really epic...
venn2001ad 1 year ago
@Restayvien It's not a step backwards - rather a step sideways. You'll be deeply satisfied after you play this game, especially if you're a true fan of the HW universe you'll be delighted by the HW lore that is in this game. (they creatively and seamingly expand on where HW left off; be sure to read HWC's manual, too).
Arissef 11 months ago
this was the best of the homeworld games, but i did like homeworld 2, i would like to watch the cinematics from all of the games but i can only find a few..
andykb7 1 year ago
I love Cata, it felt I was fighting for something.
viralhatred 1 year ago 5
I like this Tiadaan attack music.
Pondsisini 1 year ago 5
@Pondsisini Vagry attack music vs. Taidaan attack music rock off THIS SUNDAY AT TANAGRA!!
RedDawnJensen 1 year ago
HOMEWORLD AND CATA where the best homeworld 2 died young no one played it online much at all.
SaberTanker22 1 year ago
i love the music and campaign of hwc in my opinion it has the best campaign out of the 3 games. its online wasn't as good due to the retarded cost of hyperspace and slow ass harvesting.
thats why i learned to mod and added some light improvements =P
178thbattlegroup 1 year ago
Music at 2:54 is really cool. Homeworld music is still my favorite ever. Paul Ruskay should have won a grammy
paulv1973 1 year ago
epic game, 100 over 100. best RTS ever.
KithSjet 2 years ago
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that combat scene was kinda lame
Lol, interceptor flys in front of an ion cannon frigate.. smart
weylin6 2 years ago
ill call it a lucky shot
OverMX 2 years ago 3
I call it poor judgement, It's kinda like one of the things that would be included in a "100 ways to die in a Homeworld strike craft" video. Some of the other included things would be flying head on into an asteroid, and trying to solo a missile destroyer
weylin6 2 years ago 2
"100 ways to die in a Homeworld strike craft" lol that made my day, yeah you have a good point.
OverMX 2 years ago 3
awesome i say yeah that would be funny one would be to try and fight inside a beast ship
wearetheninjasofpie 1 year ago
@wearetheninjasofpie LOL GAHH GET THE FUCK OFF OF ME YOU BEAST INFECTING SONS OF BITCHES GAHHHHH !!!!!!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM oops i shot the controls >.> great now im stuck with the stupid thing
FearLancer2 1 year ago
where do i find the 100 ways to die in a homeworld strikecraft?
halffliffe 1 year ago 4
all homeworld games are great i dont think i have a fave though. the first one had the most impact on me because back then it was completely new concept but all the games are amazing. and i wouldnt want the next homeworld to change just to be new..
spacecoke 2 years ago
i totally agree with ghost1800, barking dog didnt have a huge budget to make lots of flash cut-scenes and re-design the VFX engine with, so what they did with cataclysm is imo extreamly impressive, even though large parts of the game were esentially canabilised from the first homeworld. (VFX, unit architecture, mapping etc)
TyriaelSoban 2 years ago 3
i really really liked this game i dont think it ruined anything.
joeibanez666 2 years ago 5
one of the best video game series made in my opinion, but i think this game took a big shit on the first homeworld-stilla good game but i think it wreecked the series.
halffliffe 2 years ago
I for one think the cut scenes in HW2 are the best in the series - the whole thing has a much more cinematic and dramatic feel. The production value for the cut scenes is much much higher in HW2.
BrerRabbitBDA 2 years ago
Yea, and it is also about 2 or 3 years newer, so it is bound to be more impressive anyway. This game was also not even produced by the same people as homeworld 1 and was actually significantly lower budget.
AtemiRaven 2 years ago 2
everything in homeworld is cool
the story, the fighter launching, destroying the, firing...
roy89321 2 years ago
the ion cannons, the heavy cruisers...
gabrielsg2008 2 years ago
Homeworld Cataclysm is a much better follow up to homeworld than Homeworld 2.
ImperatorZor 2 years ago 35
Have not played it yet. I'm gonna give it a try ASAP.
vladmods 2 years ago
@ImperatorZor
So flipping true.
JeradGray 1 year ago
This game was a WAY better story then HW2. Really felt epic, and desperate in the same way HW1 did.
RogueCannon 2 years ago 42
@RogueCannon I think taht HM1 is better then Cataclysm, but, Homeworld 2 have just graphics good, it's really like the same that Homeworld 1
Jpzinho007 1 year ago
@RogueCannon When I was younger I really loved this game and the feeling, now i look at it, Its basically Blob zombies I don't feel the story was better than the original Homeworld 1 storyline
jrlair 5 months ago
I so badly want that music at the end...but, yea I spent loads of time around this when I was a kid
WARLORD036 3 years ago
the track for this vid? its track 37 on youtube somehweres
mlarosa25 2 years ago
this game is cool but not as awsome as hw and hw2
lukethedukea380 3 years ago
i liked the first shot of the battle sequence, its a really long shot for a video game, its the one where it follows the two taiidan intercepters to the ion frigate, then pans up to see the carrier and intercepters kamikaze in to the carrier
halffliffe 3 years ago
Homeworld cataclysm was basicly a "this is what we can do", the features are fun, but make a very unbalecned game.
DuellyO 3 years ago
Then again, this is exactly why the campaign was so immersive and exciting. It had you sneaking through nebulas, acting out decoy operations, salvaging useful wreckage, escorting refugees, picking up an exposed operative out in deep space... the campaign really made you feel like you were out there to accomplish something both in each mission and as a larger picture.
The music and camera work during the cutscenes were great, and the voice acting, while not great, definitely kept you immersed.
ghost1800 2 years ago
Nah, its much more balanced than the scout micro spam you'd get online.
The only problem is the cannon. Other than that I loved the fact that the capital ship had an array of defense guns.
LgndryThndr 2 years ago
I heard about a Homeworld movie when I was in vancouver .. on a legend though ..
gorrandeors 3 years ago
i spent my childhood playing the homeworld series, one of the best game series ever created.
tracerboy959 3 years ago
me too, although i often tweaked strike craft to have 10000 armor and firepower ;) but finishing any game without cheats feels better so now i'm stuck at lv8 in HW1
ichersue 3 years ago
i miss this guys on HW2, i mean Somtaaw is the best.
OverMX 3 years ago
I have this problem, too.
GuardianOfHate 3 years ago
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i limke this game but i cant get it to run on my new computer, does any know why it doesnt work. I keep getting a .exe eror
halffliffe 3 years ago
try patching it i did it and it worked im usin vista
peepsbates 3 years ago
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this game was made by a differnt company it SUKS
kookid36816 3 years ago
You're saying that Cataclysm sucks just because of that single irrelevant reason?
Fratzilex 3 years ago 4
yes
kookid36816 3 years ago
Oh...well imo Cataclysm rocks no matter that! To diss a game just for the producer and the game to be actually very good it's absolutely stupid!
Fratzilex 3 years ago 3
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i limke this game but i cant get it to run on my new computer, does any know why it doesnt work. I keep getting a .exe eror
halffliffe 3 years ago
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i limke this game but i cant get it to run on my new computer, does any know why it doesnt work. I keep getting a .exe eror
halffliffe 3 years ago
1) this looks like a spam
2) try to find a crack for it or torrent it from somewhere (usually they have anything you need to get it working)
3) i don't know any other way to fix it than those mentioned!
Fratzilex 3 years ago
Homeworld Cataclysm isn't compatible with Windows 2000/ME, XP or Vista. It's based on Windows 95 and 98. You can download a patch though. I think. Have a look around the web and see what you can find.
mastermalpass 3 years ago
i downloaded it to my hard drive (XP) and it works fine (version 1.00)
JayyEZ 2 years ago
Sounds like Optimus Prime is narrating
manofsan 3 years ago 2
Hiigarans Transform and Rollout!
ReFlectiveMan 3 years ago
i limke this game but i cant get it to run on my new computer, does any know why it doesnt work. I keep getting a .exe eror
halffliffe 3 years ago
Simply epic...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago 4
the firts that i played and by far my favorite of all.
OverMX 3 years ago
HOMEWORLD SERIES rock(except for HW 2 its crappy storyline)makes me want to dust of my cataclysm cd again coss im into HW 2 for now
blaatzak 3 years ago
Yeah, Homeworld 2's storyline is not as good as the first game with it's "End time" and Vaygr crap...
Why don't they make a storyline *without* some invasion on their homeworld or something...
They really shouldn't kill the bentusi, homeworld's future is bleak...
nicknicholas88 3 years ago
bentusi arn,t dead yet..in cataclysm...a few bentusi ships crossed into another galexy bcoz they were afriad of the organic species..
i dont know which mission it is !!
maddympkv 3 years ago
are you kidding?! HW 2 is the best one!... because of its graphics and controls, i mean the controls in HW is pretty bad, though the HW 2 storyline can be debated...
Dataspel93 3 years ago
Is someone skilled at HW2 modding? We need a Cataclysm2 mod!
amitakartok 3 years ago
I wish there's a 3rd game...
Homeworld 1 was revolutionary at it's time...
It was and is still a great game but lots of people who don't know how to play it kinda desecrated it...
Well...
I guess it's not for people who prefer a 2D playing field...
nicknicholas88 3 years ago
Yea, a 3rd game qould be very good.
I'm scared abaut it, because today a lots of game is "going down", example: the neighburs from hell( the 3rd is very bad), the empire earth 3 is also very bad, vhile the 1st and 2nd was great.
I don't want this fate for Homeworld.
ShadowEnergie 3 years ago
I always desperately hope for a HW3, and I posted exactly what I thought the storyline should be at Relic forums so hopefully someone important saw it!
Sin526 3 years ago
great game, but compared to the rest of the series, the ship design of the somtaaw is not so cool. its a pity i, really like them.
Atrahasis7 3 years ago
what graphis drivers does this game requir, i got it oinstalled but when i try to play it, it says a ". exe error report" how do i fix this problem??
halffliffe 3 years ago
The Kun-Laans mothership design may not be the best one but all the Somtaaw ships have way better characteristics (spelling!! i know i got something wrong there) and adaptability than the original Higaran fleet their ships being able to do double duty (except for the mimics and leeches)!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
Kuun-lan
Rakudos 3 years ago
Actually, I think the Kuun-Lan is the best mothership design... We should really keep in mind, though, that comparing the Kuun-Lan to the motherships most Homeworld fans think of when they hear the word (I.E. The original Kushan mothership and the Tiidan command vessel) is really like compared apples and oranges...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
First off, unlike the Kushan mothership (which was designed to ferry hundereds of thousands of colonists about) and the Tiidan flagship (which was only designed to be impressive to look at, being little more than a massive penis extension for the Tiidan emperor), the Kuun-Lan is designed to be a fully operational starship for use by miners who simply have to be adaptable to survive... Thus, it's smaller than the motherships of HW1 and modular...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
I personally like how the Kuun-Lan's guns actually worked and worked fairly well (as opposed to the guns on the HW 1 motherships, which don't tend to work very well if at all) and how it could over time be completely refitted from a bluky mining ship to a surprisingly slick war vessel complete with my favourite mega-cannon of all time... And beyond that the Kuun-Lan just looks cool and I think represents the personality of the Somtaaw miners perfectly...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Again, comparing the design to the 'big' motherships is rather like compared apples and oranges... You're better off comparing it to the Turanic armed carriers (technically a mothership class) or the Kadeshi needle ships... The former, while putting ion beams on a carrier is a nice idea, is too blocky for my taste and I've never been too keen on the whole 'space dart' thing... I guess the Kadhesi motherships just seem a little bit flimbsy... Then again, you might say the same for the Kuun-Lan...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Finally there's the Bentusi tardestations and the beast mothership... The latter is damn ugly and the former, cool as it is with an awesome appearence and golden ion cannons, one you don't get to control it and two, there's just something about reactionless drives that get on my nerves...
That's just my opinion though... Truth be told, most (if not all) of the mothership designs in Homeworld rock... I just love the Somtaaw command ship in particular is all... :D
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Sorry for not replying faster and thank you for such a long presentation of your opinion on the Homeworld (mother) ships designs! I agree with you pretty much all the way except for the Bentusi Tradestations because i love the reactionless drives they're using (faster and better :D)!! Taking your ideas even further, i have to say that the Somtaaw ships are superior to any homeworld armada i've seen, even the HW2 ships both vaygr and higarian no matter how silly the comparation may seem!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
For example my favourite ship design is the Somtaaws "Archangel" Dreadnought! The design of the ship has been reversed engineered from the bentusi tradeships and equiped with a blistering array of weapons designed not just for capital kills but also for strikecraft attacks! 2 long range ion cannons and 6 missile bays for capital and frigates, 4 energy cannons for fighters and bombers and the Repulsor weapon good against...... anything! That ship packs the best "big guns" punch out of them all!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
Oh, hell yea... The Somtaaw Dreadnought will fuck... you... up... plain and simple... The reason it kicks so much ass is because of its use of combined arms, which the 'Deacon' Destroyer also uses... Missile destroyer and regular destroyer all in one package? Yes please! On the flip side, my least favourite dreadnought design would have to be the Kushan 'Avatar' Heavy Cruiser... I just don't like it's design much, smaller and less impressive than the Taiidani Qwaar'Jet...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
True! The Avatar is smaller and less impressive but at least it packs the same punch as the Qwaar'Jet (otherwise it would have really sucked)! Plus if modded in HW2 it would pawn and the other newer designs: the battlecruiser, the vaygr cruiser maybe even the progenitor dreadnought or Sajuuk (though super acolytes would cream Sajuuk way faster and better)!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
Ps: i forgot to mention that i was talking that the Somtaaw Dreadnought would pawn....for the second part of my reply!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
First off, actually, ALL equivalent Kushan and Taiidan ships have the same firepower, but usually the Taiidan ships have much better coverage... Case in point, the support frigates... The Kushan Matriarch has such horrible coverage that it almost never fires, whereas the Taiidan Heeshk actually isn't bad at taking down the occasional strike craft... This even though they have identical firepower (though the Matriarch has only one turret, where as the Heeshk has two each with half the strength)
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Second, actually, no I don't think the Archangel would beat its equivalents from the HW 2 era... Not that we could really test it anyway because the attack ratings and firepower are (I believe) handled completely differently in HW 2 from how they were in HW 1 and Cataclysm... Regardless, there is no doubt the Archangel is an awesome design...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Third, you mention the HW 2 designs... If you ask me, there's something wrong with the ship designs in HW 2 that I've never quite been able to put my finger on... I just... don't like the overall 'style' of the HW 2 designs... I wish I could be more specific, but again, I just can't put my finger on exactly what the problem is...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
In my case i don't like the filled with antennas and armor plating and all sorts of things hull design! The ships don't have clear design, a certain flow of the hull (except Progenitor ships and the Bentus...they lack this problem), they are drowned in way too much details, antennas or god knows you can attach to the hull and not matter for the function of the ship!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
"Filled with antennas" huh? Hey, actually, you're right, the larger ships (paricularly the Hiigaran battlecruiser) do indeed have of alot of seemingly random rod things sticking out of the hull in semi-random places... What's going on there? I guess that might be the problem... a lot of the hull designs feel... grubby... untidy... Like the ship wasn't sanded and painted properly before leaving the yards... God, that actually looks really terrible... :/
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
Damn balancing (this goes for both of your replies)! And i agree the taidan are bit better plus they are evil and during 2 cutscenes you can hear that taidans speak russian (another hint is their science vessels....MIR reloaded)!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
And how does speaking Russian make them any more evil than they already were, pray tell?
As for balancing, that's not the problem... The problem I can see is that, as I said, I believe the combat system is handeled quite a bit differently in HW 2 as to how it is in HW 1 and Cataclysm, thus making comparing the Archangel to its HW 2 equivalents pointless...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
That was a "joke" from the Homeworld Shipyards site from the taidan science vessel info page (russians are "evil"...dear god)! And for the combat it's not different (except for subsystems) or at least i haven't felt it during the play! And with the balancing i meant a longer range for the dreadnoughts ion cannons, to be similar to the one that he battlecruiser frowns with for example!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
Errm... OK... What is it you're trying to tell me about weapons range? I'm... afraid I don't understand what you mean...
SirBroadsword 3 years ago
The dreadnought doesn't shoot as far as the battlecruiser so the battlecruiser could pawn it from afar......(a situation in a imaginary game/mod that includes every race from the HW saga.....good thing if they make one but god i wouldn't like to fight against the players whou would use kadeshi....those guys owned me so many times in the nebula)*everything i wrote above doesn't make any sense doesn't it*
AlexF1508 3 years ago
ok .
Zaighan 3 years ago
YAY i found it and i can set up a game .. every one who wants to coronate a game should message me 1st saying you want to have a HWC reunion. and secondly with your GMT, then i will send out a message 2 every one with a time and date. =) cant wait to play you guys.
178thbattlegroup 3 years ago
enyone play hwc online please make a online play convention tomorrow or any other day
set a preference day here
my hold nick GALACTIC RDW*
jetmasterino 3 years ago
i cant find my HWC disk. im going to buy a new one soon. i would be more then happy to play the old HW games with some ppl. its been for ever and i really miss the good online battles i use to have. add me here and as soon as i get a new HWC disk ill PM every one and try to set something up ;)
alot of players also use hamichi now so if u look on the Serra/Relic forums u should find the server info. they started using hamichi cuz they were sick of the normal online servers crashing.
178thbattlegroup 3 years ago
dunno, but old somtaaw > new hiigara in technology and tactics for sure.
clockworkdreams 3 years ago
They probably just don't wanna share their tech.
Taneru 3 years ago
yeah, i'd be reticent to share with people who treated me like dirt. i get the feeling that somtaaw become nomadic/live out of their ships once they specialize as "beast slayers".
clockworkdreams 3 years ago
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Kiith Somtaaw will be the most powerful clan.
Bloodraven678 3 years ago 3
And to think the cataclysm is the worst from the series (not in my opinion though) and srill is a masterpiece!!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
I don't agree, Cataclysm is imo the best game in the series. I love what they did with the Bentusi, now they're actually enigmatic and interesting. And the Beast is one of the coolest villains ever.
Triconomicon 3 years ago
dude,i agree with you but i've seen lots of ppl saying that HW1 was the best, etc!! Anyway this was the first game from the series i've played and it's brilliant! I love this game and kiith somtaw is better than the original, kushan ppl and the beast.....the infection cutscenes are friggin scary!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
Indeed. The infection scenes are awesome because they're so simple, subtle and yet so terribly effective. The crew screams for the last time, and then falls silent for ever.
Triconomicon 3 years ago
i was 14 when i played this game fro the first time and even at that age i could feel the awesomenes of the scenes as for the bentusi...the mission when you have to protect the tradestation...it's cool because the bentusi beat the crap out of the whole beast fleet......oh well until the heavy cruiser infects the station!!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
nooo... the beast is so dumb... so unoriginal, like zombie's in space.. wtf!?
zimonslot 3 years ago
they may be unoriginal (though more mysterious than the zergs...yeah i think they are kind of alike) but they still hard to beat and with their infection beam...hmmmmmmm...wonder if they could infect progenitor ships...and they are not zombies they/it are/is a smart organism able to manipulate the taidans for example in order to survive and achieve their goals....a stupid zombie wouldn't be able to do that!!!
AlexF1508 3 years ago
"There is something wrong here. A presence. We sense its hunger. Not infant race. Not Unbound. Something other. Something older. Something from Outside! It tears at Us! Rewriting Song. Devouring memory. Turning Our Body against us...Blinding Us!!! This cannot be... WE... WILL... NOT... BE .. BOUND!!!" — Bentusi
yettabyte 3 years ago 3
Hail The Unbound!
RedLinkN64 3 years ago 2
Your Bound Bodies and flicker lives make you blind to reality.
The Devourer Cannot Be stopped,we must flee for even memory will die.
-Bentusi
yettabyte 3 years ago 4
this game makes me want to be a fighter pilot
halffliffe 3 years ago 2
Online play was wrecked by a pretty awful patch, and the nail in the coffin was some peoples insistence of destroying the resources around other teams starting areas with fighters despite even the designers saying this was an unintended bug an exploit. People quit arguing with those idiots and moved on to other games.
jjoshaugh 3 years ago
anybody still play online anymore?
yettabyte 3 years ago
is this the newest cataclysm
tritan1234 3 years ago
haha the fighters name always got me, acolytes
theaznfishy 3 years ago
i have alway wondered why you never saw the kushan missle destroyer in this game
this serie of game is pobably the best i have ever played,
halffliffe 3 years ago
In cataclysm big file, kushan missile destroyer doesn't exist!
abcabcabc5000 3 years ago
The thing that pissed me off in the first mission was that the Taiidan had energy cannons on their heavy cruiser before anybody else was using them. Good video though and thanks for the upload.
cookiehead2 3 years ago
Storywise i don't see anything wrong here. Energy cannons were invented by Taiidani, and later stolen by Hiigarans. We do not know wether energy cannons were invented before storyline or during it, but since they appear in 1st mission it's safe to assume it was before. That's all. :)
YessMasster 3 years ago
I think the Bentusi originally invented everything and sold off the specs to other races. Then they started making their own stuff.
dsagentutube 2 years ago
i love the intro tune. it's the best in the game no doubt.
spectre900 3 years ago
man the soundtrack of all homeworld games are spectacular!!
OverMX 4 years ago
it is! among the best ever!
Stealth0Kkj 4 years ago
yeah, homeworld 2 its among my favorite.
OverMX 4 years ago
Wha? A Taiidan Ion Frigate with a red beam?
dokaw 4 years ago
Yeah, they switched the Kushan to blue and Taiidan to red.
ickyzorro 4 years ago
when it said "set course to the Homeworld", it gave me chills.. =)
FuzzyLomkins 4 years ago 2