It seems that internal memos of LDS show the Mormons conspired with the Catholics to attack "homosexual legal marriage", as LDS put it, as far back as '97.
One could hope the tax exemption could be rescinded on these two cults. Such vile predatory activities scapegoating us and going after our rights.
Do a google search ----> dailykos (update w/ video X2 + Darcy Burner) Prop 8: DEVASTATING internal memo from the LDS Church
No, the IGNORANT voters have spoken. Prop 8 will be thrown out. It is unconstitutional.
Surely your lawyers advising the LDS and Catholics KNEW THAT! But who did they tell to put up all that money? The flock.
The sheep have been fleeced, they just don't know it yet!
You are so 'faith based' in your thinking that you can't see that they are manipulating you. I think they are trying to motivate you to do even more heinous things against gay folks.
Calling most people IGNORANT because they did not vote way u did shows what a bigot you are! In case u did not know more money was put up on the other side Stars Ect. LMAO
Stop posting your hate and respect the LAWS of the land.
The courts did speak, but proponents of prop 8 did not respect the courts decision, they seemed to not be able to grasp that the government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry based on the right to pursuit of happiness, privacy and equality.
And no, more money was raised by the yes on 8 campaign and a significant amount of the yes on 8 campaign came from out of state. 40% came from Salt Lake alone.
Bigotry is denying people the basic privileges that you enjoy.
Wrong The Count Said if U can get the Votes it's passed and thats what they did stop being BITTER and reapect peoples votes and LAWS of the land.
government cannot rightfully deny people marrying. O Yes they can and DO in most states! A 50yo gay man can't marry a 10yo boy Just one case and point!
Bigotry is what u are doing saying "be open minded" than HATE BASH voters because they did not vote like u. Own it you are out of step with way MOST people feel.
In response to a 10 year old marrying, you know this debate is about adults marrying, so stop being an asshole.
The funny thing is, people were saying the EXACT same thing about interracial marriage some 40 odd years ago.
I am not hate bashing voters, I am angry that scare tactics were used in this, and I am angry that this ballot even went to the people. Civil Rights have always been solved in the courts, now we just have to wait till the supreme court weighs in.
Thats what u said. "government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry" 10yo is "people" See you already would have had things very messed up wit your way of thinking.
Race & Gay two VERY diffirent things Never been 100% prove you are born gay,but a choice as seen by the tons who change not one person has been able to change their race and its well known people are born the race they are so two VERY diffirent things.
timm9 ; "Thats what u said. "government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry" 10yo is "people" See you already would have had things very messed up wit your way of thinking."
Dear God! Talk about messed up thinking! Ten year olds??? Jesus!!! Nobody is bringing that up but you guys to try and scare the other folks to vote against our rights. So ignorant.
No gay person wants a child for sex. You're much more likely to find that in a Mormon related cult. Such Crap! Grow up!
HAAAA Proves you have no debate when all u can do is so back to way someones types. LMAO
My age is NONE of your business.
Priest or an Elder gay guy on street ONLY one tie they WAS GAY and raped a BOY. Its not a church thing its CLEAR it's a GAY thing being that's the SAME tie in ALL forms who do it. So u ONLY helped back my points.
You receive a massive fail stamp for having the shittiest logic in the world.
1- People are not ready to consent to marriage until adulthood, therefore it would be unlawful to have a situation where a child was wed (this was an issue debate long ago)
2- Homosexuality has been proven to not be a choice, the ability to change does not make it a choice, that is called being "fluid, pansexual or bisexual." You really need to learn more about human sexuality before you speak.
timm9 ; "Calling most people IGNORANT because they did not vote way u did shows what a bigot you are!"
Another failed attempt at logic timm9.
Those voters were ignorant of the fact that they live in a constitutional republic. Look it up. Prop 8 is unconstitutional. It is therefore un-American.
The good thing about this is that these religious cults are proving just how un-American they are. Thanks ya' Jesus! ;-)
Keep HATE BASHING over 90% of the world because they are religious just shows how close minded you really are and a bigot. You are ONLY open minded to things you do in your life. Its been voted on and passed deal wit it and stop being BITTER.
Gay marriage is "banned" mainly in Third World countries - including Easten Europe and other soviet block backwaters - and old Christian Colonies of the British Empire (including America and other Asian colonies brainwashed by the Victorians or Muslim fundamentalists. You are the one who is stuck in the dirty old past.
South Africans were shocked and horrified to discover that America (of all places) actually thinks it is normal to vote on human rights issues (let alone civil rights). Take a look at Mandela's and Tutu's remarks on this issue. It is amazing to me how these two leaders (probably the greatest civil rights leaders of 20th century democracy) were simply ignored by America (the so-called paragon of democracy).
Do you realize how sick & repulsive this video looks to normal people? Obviously you made it to try to change our minds since all of you were already voting No. First I wanted to laugh at some of the pictures but then I remembered you are actually serious. Gross.
why is everyone equating love and marriage? yes, love should be a major part of marriage. Love should be a reason for marriage. But you don't have to be married to be in love. The passage of prop 8 dos not prohibit homosexuals from cohabitation or sexual intercourse, and it definitely does not change the feelings of love that two people claim to have for each other.
Calling us gay and then faggots is a little redundant, don't you think?
Here is a hint. Why don't you learn how to construct a coherent sentence, and then you can go around judging people all you like. Until that happens, you will always appear ignorant and stupid. No one cares to listen to someone who is ignorant and stupid.
Excellent video! Thanks for showing that Prop 8 affects real people with real families. It's not some kind of abstract theological doctrine. It's about having rights and responsibilities open for every one so that we can live what the Declaration of Independence states: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No on Prop 8!
Using innocent kids to get your vote will backfire, making videos pretending that you are from California will backfire! All yes on 8 videos were made by MORMONS! Some of them don't even live in California, they are lying to you and they are using innocent kids to get your vote! (FEAR TACTIC). If you pay attention to the yes on 8 ads, they ALL look alike, they were "programmed" by their Church to lie!! I am a ROBOT A MORMON ROBOT...my church "programmed" me to tell lies!! Don't let them fool u
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Support Love, Support Morals and Values, suooprt marriage between man and woman. Vote YES on Prop 8...Lets unite and stand tall and vote YES On prop 8!!!
Because being gay is immoral? Because your religion tells you so? Treating people differently in the eyes of the law, because your religion tells you so is not fair.
My relationships are every bit as loving and real as yours.
It is a sin to eat non kosher products as a Jew, but you do not see Jewish people trying to outlaw pork at the supermarket. It is immoral for women to not be veiled for Islamics, but you do not see them trying to force veils on women. Why should it be different for you?
Gay and lesbian couples can face major challenges when one partner becomes sick or dies. Partners are not guaranteed the right to visit their loved-one in the hospital, or make funeral arrangements when one of them dies. Many times a widowed gay or lesbian will not only have to deal with the grief or losing their life partner, but will also face losing the home they made together. Please vote No on Prop 8
Marriage as an institution is meant to constrain human behaviour, not liberate or grant rights. Put differently, where individuals have both rights and responsibilities, marriage falls more in the latter category; it is a responsibility, not a right.
If you were to wake up tomorrow and you were not able to marry the person you love, how would you react?
Marriage is a civil right. It is the right to be recognized as a loving couple that intends to stay together. You cannot recognize people differently under the law.
Cool vid
MartinHagenDJ 1 year ago
Wonderful! Thanks for this! Very well done!
prayingforequality 3 years ago
How the hell do you promote love through hate?! What have gays ever done to you?!
Kemonokami 3 years ago
i don't understand why other people's love lives matter to you. get a life of your own.
mariskamagdolinah 3 years ago 2
You do have anger and it shows reapect peoples votes and the Laws. Nuff Said.
timm9 3 years ago
It seems that internal memos of LDS show the Mormons conspired with the Catholics to attack "homosexual legal marriage", as LDS put it, as far back as '97.
One could hope the tax exemption could be rescinded on these two cults. Such vile predatory activities scapegoating us and going after our rights.
Do a google search ----> dailykos (update w/ video X2 + Darcy Burner) Prop 8: DEVASTATING internal memo from the LDS Church
eVVVVV 3 years ago
Yes to Gay Marriage....Rockin!
truthlovetruth 3 years ago
The people and Voters have Spoken NO gay marriege. End Of story.
timm9 3 years ago
No, the IGNORANT voters have spoken. Prop 8 will be thrown out. It is unconstitutional.
Surely your lawyers advising the LDS and Catholics KNEW THAT! But who did they tell to put up all that money? The flock.
The sheep have been fleeced, they just don't know it yet!
You are so 'faith based' in your thinking that you can't see that they are manipulating you. I think they are trying to motivate you to do even more heinous things against gay folks.
eVVVVV 3 years ago 2
Calling most people IGNORANT because they did not vote way u did shows what a bigot you are! In case u did not know more money was put up on the other side Stars Ect. LMAO
Stop posting your hate and respect the LAWS of the land.
timm9 3 years ago
The courts did speak, but proponents of prop 8 did not respect the courts decision, they seemed to not be able to grasp that the government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry based on the right to pursuit of happiness, privacy and equality.
And no, more money was raised by the yes on 8 campaign and a significant amount of the yes on 8 campaign came from out of state. 40% came from Salt Lake alone.
Bigotry is denying people the basic privileges that you enjoy.
volcom1206 3 years ago
Wrong The Count Said if U can get the Votes it's passed and thats what they did stop being BITTER and reapect peoples votes and LAWS of the land.
government cannot rightfully deny people marrying. O Yes they can and DO in most states! A 50yo gay man can't marry a 10yo boy Just one case and point!
Bigotry is what u are doing saying "be open minded" than HATE BASH voters because they did not vote like u. Own it you are out of step with way MOST people feel.
timm9 3 years ago
In response to a 10 year old marrying, you know this debate is about adults marrying, so stop being an asshole.
The funny thing is, people were saying the EXACT same thing about interracial marriage some 40 odd years ago.
I am not hate bashing voters, I am angry that scare tactics were used in this, and I am angry that this ballot even went to the people. Civil Rights have always been solved in the courts, now we just have to wait till the supreme court weighs in.
volcom1206 3 years ago
Thats what u said. "government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry" 10yo is "people" See you already would have had things very messed up wit your way of thinking.
Race & Gay two VERY diffirent things Never been 100% prove you are born gay,but a choice as seen by the tons who change not one person has been able to change their race and its well known people are born the race they are so two VERY diffirent things.
timm9 3 years ago
timm9 ; "Thats what u said. "government cannot rightfully deny people they right to marry" 10yo is "people" See you already would have had things very messed up wit your way of thinking."
Dear God! Talk about messed up thinking! Ten year olds??? Jesus!!! Nobody is bringing that up but you guys to try and scare the other folks to vote against our rights. So ignorant.
No gay person wants a child for sex. You're much more likely to find that in a Mormon related cult. Such Crap! Grow up!
eVVVVV 3 years ago
It's not scaring have u looked at the polls of how many GAYS think its ok to have sex wit LITTLE BOYS. FACTS not scaring.
So how long u been in a relatsonship?
timm9 3 years ago
timm9 ; ""It's not scaring have u looked at the polls of how many GAYS think its ok to have sex wit LITTLE BOYS. FACTS not scaring.""
Wait a minute! I'm looking at your profile (no age stated) spelling and your train of thought. This is starting to make sense.
How old are you timmy! Did a Priest or an Elder touch you?
eVVVVV 3 years ago
HAAAA Proves you have no debate when all u can do is so back to way someones types. LMAO
My age is NONE of your business.
Priest or an Elder gay guy on street ONLY one tie they WAS GAY and raped a BOY. Its not a church thing its CLEAR it's a GAY thing being that's the SAME tie in ALL forms who do it. So u ONLY helped back my points.
timm9 3 years ago
You receive a massive fail stamp for having the shittiest logic in the world.
1- People are not ready to consent to marriage until adulthood, therefore it would be unlawful to have a situation where a child was wed (this was an issue debate long ago)
2- Homosexuality has been proven to not be a choice, the ability to change does not make it a choice, that is called being "fluid, pansexual or bisexual." You really need to learn more about human sexuality before you speak.
volcom1206 3 years ago
timm9 ; "Calling most people IGNORANT because they did not vote way u did shows what a bigot you are!"
Another failed attempt at logic timm9.
Those voters were ignorant of the fact that they live in a constitutional republic. Look it up. Prop 8 is unconstitutional. It is therefore un-American.
The good thing about this is that these religious cults are proving just how un-American they are. Thanks ya' Jesus! ;-)
eVVVVV 3 years ago
Keep HATE BASHING over 90% of the world because they are religious just shows how close minded you really are and a bigot. You are ONLY open minded to things you do in your life. Its been voted on and passed deal wit it and stop being BITTER.
timm9 3 years ago
I am pretty sure 90% didn't vote yes on 8, it was a hell of lot closer to 50%.
Since the entire world has not voted on their views of gay marriage, you really have no clue what they believe.
volcom1206 3 years ago
Most places in world gay marriage is BAN or is Out Lawed. You are out of touch own it.
timm9 3 years ago
Gay marriage is "banned" mainly in Third World countries - including Easten Europe and other soviet block backwaters - and old Christian Colonies of the British Empire (including America and other Asian colonies brainwashed by the Victorians or Muslim fundamentalists. You are the one who is stuck in the dirty old past.
nicksum29 3 years ago
South Africans were shocked and horrified to discover that America (of all places) actually thinks it is normal to vote on human rights issues (let alone civil rights). Take a look at Mandela's and Tutu's remarks on this issue. It is amazing to me how these two leaders (probably the greatest civil rights leaders of 20th century democracy) were simply ignored by America (the so-called paragon of democracy).
nicksum29 3 years ago
Do you realize how sick & repulsive this video looks to normal people? Obviously you made it to try to change our minds since all of you were already voting No. First I wanted to laugh at some of the pictures but then I remembered you are actually serious. Gross.
7blue1pink 3 years ago
Silly fags, dicks are for chicks.
Accept your defeat and move on with your sick lifestyles
Imsorryfornothing 3 years ago
why is everyone equating love and marriage? yes, love should be a major part of marriage. Love should be a reason for marriage. But you don't have to be married to be in love. The passage of prop 8 dos not prohibit homosexuals from cohabitation or sexual intercourse, and it definitely does not change the feelings of love that two people claim to have for each other.
Bingbi89 3 years ago
GAY faggots! YES on 8! Theres a REASON our God made us this way the differences between a boy/girl! F This!
Webk1nz 3 years ago
Calling us gay and then faggots is a little redundant, don't you think?
Here is a hint. Why don't you learn how to construct a coherent sentence, and then you can go around judging people all you like. Until that happens, you will always appear ignorant and stupid. No one cares to listen to someone who is ignorant and stupid.
volcom1206 3 years ago
Question, is there anything that we as the human race are not to do or that would be considered wrong? Why?
pursuitofhappines 3 years ago
Interfering with the life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness of others. I would have to think that anything that does so would be "wrong."
theancientenemy 3 years ago
Love is love!!! Love doesn't discriminate!! Vote NO on Prop 8!!!!
ihearttheslugs 3 years ago
Love and what we will do for it. Damn there all beautiful
VDSantos1 3 years ago 2
I am straight-against-8! =)
Equality for all!
No on Prop. 8!
VronRN2 3 years ago 3
GREAT VIDEO!!!! VOTE NO ON NOV 4TH\
Im sure bigots like myfreedomofspeech and gevasrenaissance will be coming to CT next, bring it on bitch
seacorp126 3 years ago 2
Excellent video! Thanks for showing that Prop 8 affects real people with real families. It's not some kind of abstract theological doctrine. It's about having rights and responsibilities open for every one so that we can live what the Declaration of Independence states: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No on Prop 8!
bilcal 3 years ago
its one thing to have such hatred for sumone buts its another to publicly display it!
kweendwg187 3 years ago
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Using innocent kids to get your vote will backfire, making videos pretending that you are from California will backfire! All yes on 8 videos were made by MORMONS! Some of them don't even live in California, they are lying to you and they are using innocent kids to get your vote! (FEAR TACTIC). If you pay attention to the yes on 8 ads, they ALL look alike, they were "programmed" by their Church to lie!! I am a ROBOT A MORMON ROBOT...my church "programmed" me to tell lies!! Don't let them fool u
hotblondie111 3 years ago
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Support Love, Support Morals and Values, suooprt marriage between man and woman. Vote YES on Prop 8...Lets unite and stand tall and vote YES On prop 8!!!
myfreedomofspeech 3 years ago
Because being gay is immoral? Because your religion tells you so? Treating people differently in the eyes of the law, because your religion tells you so is not fair.
My relationships are every bit as loving and real as yours.
It is a sin to eat non kosher products as a Jew, but you do not see Jewish people trying to outlaw pork at the supermarket. It is immoral for women to not be veiled for Islamics, but you do not see them trying to force veils on women. Why should it be different for you?
volcom1206 3 years ago
Gay and lesbian couples can face major challenges when one partner becomes sick or dies. Partners are not guaranteed the right to visit their loved-one in the hospital, or make funeral arrangements when one of them dies. Many times a widowed gay or lesbian will not only have to deal with the grief or losing their life partner, but will also face losing the home they made together. Please vote No on Prop 8
hotblondie111 3 years ago 2
Marriage as an institution is meant to constrain human behaviour, not liberate or grant rights. Put differently, where individuals have both rights and responsibilities, marriage falls more in the latter category; it is a responsibility, not a right.
gevasrenaissance 3 years ago
If you were to wake up tomorrow and you were not able to marry the person you love, how would you react?
Marriage is a civil right. It is the right to be recognized as a loving couple that intends to stay together. You cannot recognize people differently under the law.
volcom1206 3 years ago
I SUPPORT LOVE, NO ON PROP 8!
webmike720 3 years ago 2
this is a great video, man. gave me chills and i'm doing everything i can to spread it around.
SpeiVecordia 3 years ago