Dude I agree, Years ago I owned a Dogo Argentino in Africa, he was loyal, trustworthy, obedient and a friend he lived a long life and died in peace, I was PROUD to be his owner, He never acted dangerously or attacked anyone, I trained him since he was a Pup, he grew up to be the Guardian of our house hold.
I trained him well and correctly, people who abuse this position as Trainer and force them to fight should be imprisoned and suffer a weekly beating.
There was only one thing I disagreed with. You said about them locking on, this is a very misleading myth. Other than that, owners I find are to blame. Sometimes they don't realise what they do is bad though. For example spoiling the dog, not being dominant.
All dogs are naturally dangerous, like most animals, humans included.
But humans are intelligent enough to understand social norms and laws, and consequences, which makes them more predictable. You have much higher probability of a dog biting you than you have of a human biting you.
Domestic cats are better than dogs in this sense because cats aren't territorial like dogs and they always escape if they can, rather than attack you. And they can't bite you like dogs can.
Well it's not being bit by a human that I'm worried about. It's being stabbed, shot, poisoned, beaten with a bat/club/crobar, or ran over and left to die that I'm worried about.
I'm not getting into cats vs dogs though, that's a argument that can go on for centuries (in fact I believe it has.)
Well, I have two friends who have rescued pit bulls and a friend who rescued a greyhound. Uh...I let my girls pick a pup and kitty from the pound. And while I appreciate and respect animals, I think of the safety of people first. Having children does that to a person, you know.
this question coincides with the gay marriage debate, nature versus nurture. are certain animals prone to violence, acting on instinct, or does their environment encourage this behavior.
are certain people prone to have sex with their likeness from birth or is this behavior encouraged as a result of their environment.
this applies to heterosexuals, bisexuals, mocking birds and the like.
There was a report recently about a puppy being stamped to death. Now that person has got to be a complete psychopath, but because it's an animal, he'll probably only get two years, or maybe a fine. And yes he was a hooded chav, only 15!
That story might have been what got thinking about dog cruelty, I couldn't get to grips with what would make someone do something like that, except for what you've just suggested - he's a psychopath. I don't doubt that he'll do something like this again, but if it's a child he'll be treated as the sicko he is
I don't think dogs are ever born to behave like that. As you said, they need to be dished out physical abuse to turn out like that. And yeah, your right. People who treat them this way and who train dogs for fighting should be given a bigger punishment. Ever watched the film "condemned?" Well, its basically a film where a load of prisoners fight on an island where only one will survive. That's what should happen to people who treat animals like that. :D
I couldn't agree more with you Paul. I do think some dogs are dangerous though and not down to their owners BUT it's down to their past and like when they were born, where they were born etc. But people who breed dogs just to fight are sick minded bastards and should be sent down to prison immidiately!
@gardenspoonVLOG Yeah I think you're right there too Paul. If you've ever watched the Dog Whisperer then that sort of proves it ... it all depends on how inteligent the dog is also.
Well that or something like is what I'd like to do, but it would be backward thinking.
The trouble is that people will do shit if the consequences aren't that severe, stiffer sentences would help, but the main help would be not turning a blind eye to such activities
Fear could help, there could be pretend punishments like the threat of being locked in a room with ravenous dogs, and just like many of the other laws they would be an idle threat, but it might help
If you ever watch the Dog Whisperer, he'll always say it's the people. It's a good program, he rehomes abused and stray dogs. It's probably the only programme on, that tells you how you should treat a dog aswell.
Don't mean to generealize, but it's always Chavs who do this kind of stuff, I often see them with pitbulls. How pathetic must you be as a person, if you need a powerful dog to inflate your ego.
You're right, it is those chavs that are proud of dog fighting.
I've not seen the dog whisperer, but I am pleased to hear of dogs being re-homed with people who know who to deal with them rather than them being put down
Pit bulls are different cup of tee to Staffs. They can turn even when they are well looked after but they are bigger and much more powerful. If treated badly and raised to fight you have a monster. I have no time for dog fighters and people who use their fighting dogs as an extension of their aggression and ego. If convicted of dog fighting the criminal should do a lot of time. NFL player Michael Vick got time for dog fighting and a good thing too. It is a horrendous activity done by scum.
Well I haven't had any experience with pit bulls, probably because the few that were in this country have now gone, but I have been informed that pit bulls were originally bred for protecting children not eating them.
The thing is, it only takes a few nasty scumbags to get dogs fighting, and that ruins everything.
I have owned manny Staff and know people who have had pit bulls. Staffs are great with children that is why they are known as the nanny dog. They are great with people but you have to watch them with other dogs particularly if other dogs are agressive towards them
I think there is a great deal of projecting by men that are trying to be macho onto pit bulls and other breeds. They want to boost their egos so they get a breed that they think is vicious. Then people see these guys with their dogs and believe the stereotype - that they are aggressive, have locking jaws, etc.
The sad fact is that raising any animal to be mean will cause this to happen. The people that own pit bulls as an extension of their egos are the ones that need to be put down.
Notice that the dog, while playing and worked up, never snaps at one of the children - but it does grab a toy. This despite the fact the dog is really worked up.
There are a few inaccuracies in this video. The American Pit Bull's jaw is no different than any other breeds' jaw in that it does not lock. Also, many pit bulls were actually bred and raised to be protectors of children and are actually very good with children. In fact, many pit bulls were used as companions and protectors of children for wealthy Americans about a century ago.
You have to work to make pit bulls aggressive. They were not originally intended to be fighters. It is 100% people.
From what I have read Pit Bulls are known for their locking jaws in the same way Staffies are, but it doesn't make it fact I suppose.
I can well image that the Pit bull to be good around children if treated right, that's very interesting you should point it out, in this country they are completely banned of course because the law gets pressured by the media. So if Pit bulls are just as easy-going as Staffordshire terriers then it does annoy me further that they should seen as dangerous
We need much stricter animal ownership laws in the UK and harsher punishment for the people who ignore them and inflict cruelty. Not may people know about what happened in Germany. Its called the Dog Holocaust where two dogs that were bred and put on steroids for fighting attacked a child and killed him so now thousands of dogs have been killed by a law change and many breeds are banned.
Great vid and very good point. Unfortunately its a combination of dogs and people. Some breeds are really hard work and need correct training and handling but still people buy them because they look hard or cute. Through ignorance they either allow the dog to develop bad anti-social behaviour, or get rid of the dog.
I see a lot of people round here with Staffies, and they do look like 'hard' dicks, but usually the dogs are well behaved. The Staff is one of the easiest dogs to live with too, they are very excitable but they love people.
Labradors can be hard work as they need so much excercise and are difficult to train, but as they can't bite very hard they are seen as cute and cuddly, which they are most of the time.
cant agree more, my mum breeds world champion show akitas, so i have been brought up with dogs. it really annoys me when people say 'oh yeah akitas those big fighting dogs' . no dog is a fighting dog, and if any dog bites anyONE, we should be wondering about the owners, cos thats where the problem lies.
good vid paul! incidentally you can see my mums akitas on youtube, she is melodorakitas
I SAY : DANGEROUS PEOPLE !..
Thumps up if you agree.
DrogenKinder100 9 months ago
@ gardenspoonVLOG
Dude I agree, Years ago I owned a Dogo Argentino in Africa, he was loyal, trustworthy, obedient and a friend he lived a long life and died in peace, I was PROUD to be his owner, He never acted dangerously or attacked anyone, I trained him since he was a Pup, he grew up to be the Guardian of our house hold.
I trained him well and correctly, people who abuse this position as Trainer and force them to fight should be imprisoned and suffer a weekly beating.
Serialkilla84 11 months ago
There was only one thing I disagreed with. You said about them locking on, this is a very misleading myth. Other than that, owners I find are to blame. Sometimes they don't realise what they do is bad though. For example spoiling the dog, not being dominant.
XxbritpupxX 2 years ago
All dogs are naturally dangerous, like most animals, humans included.
But humans are intelligent enough to understand social norms and laws, and consequences, which makes them more predictable. You have much higher probability of a dog biting you than you have of a human biting you.
Domestic cats are better than dogs in this sense because cats aren't territorial like dogs and they always escape if they can, rather than attack you. And they can't bite you like dogs can.
neowired 2 years ago
@neowired
Well it's not being bit by a human that I'm worried about. It's being stabbed, shot, poisoned, beaten with a bat/club/crobar, or ran over and left to die that I'm worried about.
I'm not getting into cats vs dogs though, that's a argument that can go on for centuries (in fact I believe it has.)
FallingandRunning 1 year ago
its true, any dog can be taught to be agressiv or to attak
123456619 2 years ago
Well, I have two friends who have rescued pit bulls and a friend who rescued a greyhound. Uh...I let my girls pick a pup and kitty from the pound. And while I appreciate and respect animals, I think of the safety of people first. Having children does that to a person, you know.
HarveyEspatchelowe 2 years ago
this question coincides with the gay marriage debate, nature versus nurture. are certain animals prone to violence, acting on instinct, or does their environment encourage this behavior.
are certain people prone to have sex with their likeness from birth or is this behavior encouraged as a result of their environment.
this applies to heterosexuals, bisexuals, mocking birds and the like.
jvforever72 2 years ago
gugh
smiles audrey
oodlesmoran 2 years ago
animal cruelty - people who do this need to be killed.. simple as...
U48 2 years ago
Dogs should be treated with care!
jondavis1234 2 years ago
The dog is the best friend of the man kind
is the poeple who turns the dogs in to figthing machines
alphasimaed 2 years ago
Thanks for understanding alphasimaed
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
There was a report recently about a puppy being stamped to death. Now that person has got to be a complete psychopath, but because it's an animal, he'll probably only get two years, or maybe a fine. And yes he was a hooded chav, only 15!
UnyieldingDefiance 2 years ago
That story might have been what got thinking about dog cruelty, I couldn't get to grips with what would make someone do something like that, except for what you've just suggested - he's a psychopath. I don't doubt that he'll do something like this again, but if it's a child he'll be treated as the sicko he is
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I agree.
I don't think dogs are ever born to behave like that. As you said, they need to be dished out physical abuse to turn out like that. And yeah, your right. People who treat them this way and who train dogs for fighting should be given a bigger punishment. Ever watched the film "condemned?" Well, its basically a film where a load of prisoners fight on an island where only one will survive. That's what should happen to people who treat animals like that. :D
keirlikesbeer 2 years ago
Thanks Keir,
Glad you agree
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
Many dogs don't know any better. There are smart dogs, angry and mentally ill dogs, but humans are suppose to know how to treat animals.
HandwhistlerBen 2 years ago
Thank you Ben, humans should know better, but it's a matter of training them too
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
In my opinion, I think its the dangerous people for provoking the dogs for doing the dangerous attacks.
SporeDotCam 2 years ago
Thanks Spore
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more with you Paul. I do think some dogs are dangerous though and not down to their owners BUT it's down to their past and like when they were born, where they were born etc. But people who breed dogs just to fight are sick minded bastards and should be sent down to prison immidiately!
5*
MadMonkeyBoy08 2 years ago
I believe that even dogs that have come from abusive homes can be re-trained, but it obviously takes quite a bit of patience.
Thanks MMB
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
@gardenspoonVLOG Yeah I think you're right there too Paul. If you've ever watched the Dog Whisperer then that sort of proves it ... it all depends on how inteligent the dog is also.
MadMonkeyBoy08 2 years ago
Nice one Paul. Dog fighting knob heads. We should kidnap their dogs in the night and train them to bite their owners bollocks off.
gazmetal 2 years ago
Poetic justice eh?
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I agree.
We're no longer living in the Middle Ages.
Such things must not be tolerated.
tomken8dy 2 years ago
What things won't be tolerated... dog fights?
They are not tolerated, but the consequences aren't stopping people from doing it
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
gardenspoonVLOG
Throw the offending humans into pits with wild, hungry dogs.
tomken8dy 2 years ago
Well that or something like is what I'd like to do, but it would be backward thinking.
The trouble is that people will do shit if the consequences aren't that severe, stiffer sentences would help, but the main help would be not turning a blind eye to such activities
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
gardenspoonVLOG
Yes I previously stated that we're no longer living in the Middle Ages.
Feeding these scumbags to wild dogs IS backward thinking.
But it would be a very effective deterrent.
The government could derive tax dollars to pay for
it all with gambling; how long the person would last,
what body part was ripped off first, etc.
I'm only half joking.
FEAR motivates like nothing else on this Earth.
tomken8dy 2 years ago
Fear could help, there could be pretend punishments like the threat of being locked in a room with ravenous dogs, and just like many of the other laws they would be an idle threat, but it might help
;-)
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
gardenspoonVLOG
Caning, like in Singapore
tomken8dy 2 years ago
AWSUM VIDEO! I will flag those ppl.
Luvs,
Mooz
moomay11649 2 years ago
Thanks Mooz, I don't think you'll see any to flag though, I'm sure the videos would get removed very quickly,
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
Interesting video and good attentions !
The human is responsible for the dog !
Tadek59 2 years ago
Thank you Tadek
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I am pleasantlied surprise with such a topic.
FIGHTS of DOGS and OTHER ANIMALS
ARE DISGRACEFUL !!!!!!
accept my regards for your love for dogs,
and cats and....
The one who loves animals loves also people.You must be very friendly guy.
success
TheIndependence000 2 years ago
Thanks, that's very generous of you to say
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
If you ever watch the Dog Whisperer, he'll always say it's the people. It's a good program, he rehomes abused and stray dogs. It's probably the only programme on, that tells you how you should treat a dog aswell.
Don't mean to generealize, but it's always Chavs who do this kind of stuff, I often see them with pitbulls. How pathetic must you be as a person, if you need a powerful dog to inflate your ego.
UnyieldingDefiance 2 years ago
Thank you,
You're right, it is those chavs that are proud of dog fighting.
I've not seen the dog whisperer, but I am pleased to hear of dogs being re-homed with people who know who to deal with them rather than them being put down
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
We all know that dogs are friends. It's the humans that train them . I could train a wolf to be friendly and a poodle to attack
wizardeal 2 years ago
Thanks Tim, I thought you'd be a dog-friend.
Have you really trained a wolf?
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
Oh yeah, I've trained the wolf in me!!
I could. I'm sure I could. I have 2 siberian huskies. They are not very far removed from the wolf
wizardeal 2 years ago
I should have guessed there'd be a wolf in you dude!! ;-)
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
where? where? where wolf?
wizardeal 2 years ago
Pit bulls are different cup of tee to Staffs. They can turn even when they are well looked after but they are bigger and much more powerful. If treated badly and raised to fight you have a monster. I have no time for dog fighters and people who use their fighting dogs as an extension of their aggression and ego. If convicted of dog fighting the criminal should do a lot of time. NFL player Michael Vick got time for dog fighting and a good thing too. It is a horrendous activity done by scum.
idatomhue 2 years ago
Well I haven't had any experience with pit bulls, probably because the few that were in this country have now gone, but I have been informed that pit bulls were originally bred for protecting children not eating them.
The thing is, it only takes a few nasty scumbags to get dogs fighting, and that ruins everything.
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I have owned manny Staff and know people who have had pit bulls. Staffs are great with children that is why they are known as the nanny dog. They are great with people but you have to watch them with other dogs particularly if other dogs are agressive towards them
idatomhue 2 years ago
Yes they are not always friends with other dogs, though mine usually remains subservient.
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
I think there is a great deal of projecting by men that are trying to be macho onto pit bulls and other breeds. They want to boost their egos so they get a breed that they think is vicious. Then people see these guys with their dogs and believe the stereotype - that they are aggressive, have locking jaws, etc.
The sad fact is that raising any animal to be mean will cause this to happen. The people that own pit bulls as an extension of their egos are the ones that need to be put down.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
Yes the macho-type are quite an issue. And are you suggesting that it is the owners that should be put down...?
:)
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
A good example regarding the pit bull is -
watch?v=ad87m-uKesA
Notice that the dog, while playing and worked up, never snaps at one of the children - but it does grab a toy. This despite the fact the dog is really worked up.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
Thanks I will take a look at that
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
yes i agree any dog can be raised to fight and be dangerous i hate animal abuse to
MegaNumber1bitch 2 years ago
Dogs are just like people really, if they are kicked and abused it will change their personalities
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
yep agreed
MegaNumber1bitch 2 years ago
Yes well that's why it annoys me really; the dogs get destroyed while the nasty bastards who keep them get off, I want to torture them!
Sorry, and thanks
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
There are a few inaccuracies in this video. The American Pit Bull's jaw is no different than any other breeds' jaw in that it does not lock. Also, many pit bulls were actually bred and raised to be protectors of children and are actually very good with children. In fact, many pit bulls were used as companions and protectors of children for wealthy Americans about a century ago.
You have to work to make pit bulls aggressive. They were not originally intended to be fighters. It is 100% people.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
From what I have read Pit Bulls are known for their locking jaws in the same way Staffies are, but it doesn't make it fact I suppose.
I can well image that the Pit bull to be good around children if treated right, that's very interesting you should point it out, in this country they are completely banned of course because the law gets pressured by the media. So if Pit bulls are just as easy-going as Staffordshire terriers then it does annoy me further that they should seen as dangerous
Thanks
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
We need much stricter animal ownership laws in the UK and harsher punishment for the people who ignore them and inflict cruelty. Not may people know about what happened in Germany. Its called the Dog Holocaust where two dogs that were bred and put on steroids for fighting attacked a child and killed him so now thousands of dogs have been killed by a law change and many breeds are banned.
Justavaragejoe 2 years ago
I'd not heard of that story before Joe, that is horrendous.
Thanks
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
Great vid and very good point. Unfortunately its a combination of dogs and people. Some breeds are really hard work and need correct training and handling but still people buy them because they look hard or cute. Through ignorance they either allow the dog to develop bad anti-social behaviour, or get rid of the dog.
Justavaragejoe 2 years ago
I see a lot of people round here with Staffies, and they do look like 'hard' dicks, but usually the dogs are well behaved. The Staff is one of the easiest dogs to live with too, they are very excitable but they love people.
Labradors can be hard work as they need so much excercise and are difficult to train, but as they can't bite very hard they are seen as cute and cuddly, which they are most of the time.
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
cant agree more, my mum breeds world champion show akitas, so i have been brought up with dogs. it really annoys me when people say 'oh yeah akitas those big fighting dogs' . no dog is a fighting dog, and if any dog bites anyONE, we should be wondering about the owners, cos thats where the problem lies.
good vid paul! incidentally you can see my mums akitas on youtube, she is melodorakitas
delboy1978uk 2 years ago
Thanks Derek, I shall take a look
Ive been stopped on the street many times by people suggesting that my dog might be a danger, typical paranoid people stirred up by the slaggy media.
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago
Any dog + stupid people = dangerous dog
kel2corkeyOriginal 2 years ago
That sums it up very nicely
Thanks Kel
gardenspoonVLOG 2 years ago