First I want to say that there is no right or wrong way to live your life when it comes to learning. College should be a place where you deepen your understanding and learn new skills in a field that INTERESTS you. I don't think people should just go to college for the sake of going unless they KNOW that having a degree will get them a job. For example, I want to be an airline pilot or navy pilot and a BA or BS is mandatory here. But why not travel and join humanitarian efforts and volunteer?
I respect Altucher's opinion a lot regarding the perils of going to college. My father hates his guts! I remember once sending him a link of Altucher's criticism of college my dad went into a frenzy! But much of what he said was true.
Im a freshmen college student. My theory is that the old people that is over 35 has a pretty decent education, and work experience that makes us young adult cannot be compare to. There is a limited amount of jobs, with limited amount of wealth to spread. Throughout my highschool year I'm just a student, but since im out of school, I'm a college bum with no job, and I spend my time on Xbox and TV because Burger King won't hire me. I am bum, but with authority over me, I am hard working person.
@AtheosRecords hahaha yeah real funny hahaha, but the funniest part is you just wasted $300.... so hilarious, doctorate of arts in conspiracy studies what the hell can you gonna do with that? funny funny funny
I personally don't agree with "45% of students doesn't learn much in college." Learning doesn't need to be something you can show. Learning how to communicate with other, living with other, or even party with other are things you can learn in college. Things you can learn in college doesn't have to be Math or English.
I graduated high school last year and my plan is to go with my hobbies at home, spend time with the people I love, work a job I can find locally and do youth volunteering. I researched it; as long as you don't volunteer abroad, it's free and gives you career options, and a chance to make new friends. As for school, I'm in a two-year college program now FOR FREE, and I love it. I'm thinking of paying my way through regular uni after and at least earning my bachelor's degree. Whatever it takes. =)
My cousin went to LSU for four years on a football scholarship and graduated, now he sells mercedes to the rich. He is still in the same money bracket he would be in if he had used his education i dont know if he would still have a job but as long as the rich are buying german cars i really dont think he cares about the wasted education. Do mercedes dealers need four year college degrees or do they just need to look and talk the part? Its more about who you know then what you know these days.
I'm a sophmore in college, getting a bio degree to go to med school. But I feel it is worthless. I really don't learn anything, I know most of the concepts that they are teaching me or have no use for the concepts those I don't know. I wish I could just skip undergrad, it is a waste of money for people that have another 8 years to go. And what if it turns out I don't want to be in medicine? I wish I had the money to do any of those suggestions, but I don't. I barely have money for college.
@Kittylovr I was in burger king the other day and I was waiting for my order and I couldn't help but to over hear this conversation between two guys! One of the guys seems to be a very successful contractor and he was explaining how he had got his Bach Degree in Biology and never used it! IDK! it just really threw me for a curve! I always assumed a degree meant certain success. Glad I had that little eye opener!
I Graduated college with a degree in Fine Arts. All in the while, when I was working retail I was complimented by a customer for my guest service. He came back to me at the check-out counter and asked me for an interview to work for a health-care organization. I am now a proud nursing assistant taking care up from 10+ patients a day. Customer service is the root of work ethics, and if you build up on it you'll actually get farther than you can than you would do in a classroom.
I am currently going to Uni in Canada (and our school fees aren't as crazy as the ones in America)
I need a Uni Degree in order to be a teacher, but even if I didn't I would still go to Uni. I love learning and as much as I would love to go and travel I'm afraid that is not a realisitic option.
Dropped out of college, but continued working full time. Now I've been given a pretty awesome opportunity to be apart of a business venture that could make me financially secure and I don't have a ton of debt. Dropping out worked for me.
"You can say anything about religion." Really? It's my experience that fundies are usually the craziest, most judgmental and/or violent out of anyone.
sometimes i regret going to college. i could have gone to a technical school for 2 years, gotten some certs, and really focused on my interests, instead of wasting my money and my time on nonsense in college.
i could've finished my studies sooner and could've been making money sooner, instead of being poor for 4+ years struggling to make ends meet and having almost nothing to show for all that struggle.
Volunteering? Mastering games? MAKING PEOPLE LAUGH????
LOOK...unless you have MONEY, or unless you VERY skilled at a craft...this list is fairy-tales and shouldn't be treated as realistic alternatives. This is for those who have financial security (many poor parents aren't going to give their child monies to go backpacking in India to experience life as a poor person...)
I hope Alyona reads this and realizes how misguided and loopy this is. Or maybe it's not meant for "middle" America...
@strongpimphand The point is that you can go backpacking in India for cheaper than you can go to college. Why not go backpacking if it's going to do your career just as good?
One could instead choose a community college route, get an associates/certification, and enter the work force with a lesser amount of debt than a traditional 4 year student.
Because at the end of the day.....a person backpacking in India isn't going to help with most jobs. Doesn't really build experience that cannot be learned inside America. Doesn't do anything except give you (hopefully) awesome stories
@strongpimphand Good points, but many poor parents don't have money to send their kids to college either. So the poor are out of this any way. The point is, if you have the money to send your kid to college, maybe you should spend much less and send them on a trip. If you don't have the money to do that, then you don't have the money to send them to college anyway.
this guy's message is that there are only a few high paying intellectually challenging jobs and most people should just accept the fact that they wont get them and should just be happy with taking a low paying repetitive working class job
but very few people will accept that
most people would rather live at home or turn to crime or become homeless rather than become a low paid working class wage slave
well actually i was refering to the fact that people were going to college and going into debt in order to have a high paying job with intellectual challenge
nobody wants the dull low paying jobs
and since only some college graduates get the good jobs the rest of the college graduates who cant get good jobs are living at home rather than work a mindless low paying job
College and university are institutions and have suffered the same fate as all institutions. They became corrupt.
What people have to understand is that it's not a post-academic piece of paper that will make you a better person. It's knowledge as a whole. And these days, you'll get a lot more knowledge by doing things or self-teaching via the internet than you will writing 10,000 word essays for some college.
here in sweden is most ppl that go to the university 25+ and i havent heard of classes that doesnt force you to read 49+ pages a week or writing 4-10 pages a week
what a nice fucking list I would love to travel the world...but guess what I do not have the money, I would love to start a business but I do not have the money. Traveling the world costs way more than 4 years of college.
Many jobs that used to require just a high school degree now require college because of grade inflation. Much of college is just indoctrination. Just going to college isn't enough, one must attend a good (i.e., at least a highly selective, preferably a most) college. Furthermore, one of America's polite fictions is that of a meritocracy, although most of the middle, upper middle, and upper classes are there because of their parents and inheriting their values, attitudes, and mannerisms.
I am tempted to think that increased tuition costs is a weapon in the class war to keep the working class and poor out, but Harvard accepts students whose parents make under $40,000 a year for free. Certain private secondary schools also accept students for free if their parents make under $150,000 a year. Although this could just be laying the foundation for having a reason to boast of being meritocratic. Having one very smart and poor exception only obscures the classist reality.
That list is pretty much worthless to a h.s. grad. 3, 4, 6, 7, & 8 are probably the only ones your average joe could realistically do. There are exceptions, but 1, 2, & 5 are probably better off left until you have some money and experience. Not even mentioned in this report is tech schools or community colleges. Both can provide a less expensive education, while giving you a lot of opportunities.
@Pyrolonn I agree that everyone should remain curious and informed no matter the level of education they pursue. Colleges are notoriously good at turning out graduates with degrees that while extremely costly, have little practical value in the real world, ie...B.A. in Underwater Basketweaving. (Not a real degree, but shows how ludicrous some degrees can be.)
I value my college and degree (bio b.s.) I agree it isn't for everyone. Though everyone should get some kind of vocational training. There aren't enough jobs so colleges turn out unusable degrees since someone is always better than you. If you have a passion get that degree, if you don't try something else. This guy's recommendations are absurd the alternatives are various types of education. Everyone should remain curious and informed no matter how little education they decide to purchase.
Dont go to college for the money, go for the great experience and friends you will make. Also Ivy colleges are over rated. However there are some professions where a college degree is required.
Getting out of college, best idea ever. I know people who went to college and are screwed and I am good . And by the way the person who wrote the response is a dumb jackass
college education =/= guaranteed employment BTW.. unemployment among young people with or without college degrees is higher than any other demographic GLOBALLY
I live in a major university town where 40% of our population has a college degree, and many of these college graduates can barely write a complete sentence. And I've been astounded at how few can even spell at a high school level. And many of these college graduates here do not know the difference between there, their, and they're--it's frightening. To put it simply, they're pretty much fucking morons.
Are you sure about that? It seems like it's mostly Jews who tell other people not to go to college. They, themselves, of course, go to college well beyond a "bachelor's" degree.
You can learn everything on the internet, or in a library. The only thing you need college for is the lab the one thing you cant learn at home, and writing skills what a joke called spell check , and half the time i do not worry about that.
@79chemdog Yea, my dad just told me, when he first went to his job, right out of college, they asked him and his work buddies, if they remember all the stuff they learned in school? So, they said no, who does? The employers replied "Good, because none of it applies to the real world."
@WavesOfTrolls or people could return to a somewhat agrarian lifestyle and barter for living necessities...hell, u could start farming cannabis and do both at the same time lol
@WavesOfTrolls Interesting that you mention becoming a criminal. I have a Bachelor of Science in Global Logistics and Supply Chain Management. Yet I'm working a slave labor job for $9.50 hourly. Ironically, I'm certain the drug dealer down the street would be very fond of my skills in transportation and inventory control/distribution...I'm also certain he'd pay me more as well.
The best university is the school of hard knocks. University is needed for people who cannot think by themselves and need a silly paper in order to make money.
The reason college students no longer learn writing skills & critical thinking is because liberal arts education have been on the decline. Colleges have simply become a preparation for the business world. Learning writing skills & critical thinking will make you a better person & citizen, but it won't increase how much money you make in the real world. The data shows college graduates make more money. Money is what our society cares about. Colleges successfully serve that purpose.
In order to get my degree in Computer Technology, I have to take all these useless prerequisite courses, even the college guidance person I go to set up my schedule, agrees that the courses that are "prerequisites" to the courses, like English, etc., that actually don't pertain to my degree but in the slightest bit, are just there, they have no relevance to your major, unless you're going into a English field, etc.
@CJCA915 Colleges teach less of those prerequisite courses than they used to. Earlier last century, it would've been more common for a college graduate to have learned writing skills & critical thinking. College graduates aren't as well educated as they used to be & yet people like you complain they're teaching you too much. If you want a technical skill, you don't need a college degree. There are community colleges & technical schools to teach you basic skills w/o all the prerequisite courses.
@MarmaladeINFP I'm going to a technical college, and I still require all these unnecessary prerequisites. People like me? I don't complain about learning, I loved learning, I just think I should be learning about stuff geared towards my degree, not side issues.
My dad just told me, when he first went to his job, after college, they asked, if they remembered all the stuff they learned in school? They said no, and then they replied "Good, because none of it applies to the real world." haha.
@CJCA915 It depends on the type of technical college and what you're going to a technical college for. You can get just a certificate for some technical skill. If you're seeking something more than just a certicate and want an actual degree, then yes you have to take prerequisite courses. But that is your choice. No one is forcing you to get a degree rather than just a certificate of some sort.
The sad fact is Americans are ignorant & proud to be ignorant. All knowledge applies to reality. haha
@MarmaladeINFP I'm going for Computer Technology, I'm practically proficient already, when it comes to computers, I'm a quick study, I mean, in high school, out of a 90 minute course, I was done within 20-25 minutes, each day.
I don't think a degree in Computer Technology, requires English, World History, etc. Math and Science yea, but other things, not so much, at least from my perspective, and the college course people I've talked to.
Yes, but they were making a point, that what you learn...
... in college, isn't always how it works in the real world, or how it will go in the real world, that's the point they were trying to make, just because you learn something one way, doesn't mean it will be exactly the same in the real world.
No English or World History needed? Ok, then don't plan for any management positions. You might be required to produce reports that others can actually read.
@LibertaerUeberAlles If you can't learn how to read and write in grade school, college ain't gonna matter.
As for world history, for my career, the only history I need to worry about is technological, since my field is Computer Technology, I don't need to learn about the countless endeavors of Napoleon Bonaparte.
@MarmaladeINFP Everyone is ignorant, if you knew what the word meant, which shows your ignorance, ignorance is the lack of knowledge in something, I not being a theoretical physicist or cosmologist, am ignorant by Stephen Hawking's standards, etc.
@CJCA915 Everyone is ignorant about something, but there are some important differences. Some people are more ignorant than others. And some people embrace their ignorance instead of trying to lessen it.
College is just a way to get a fancy paper that says you are "proficient" in a field, and you end up learning your job anyway after college, so what's the point of college, if you're gonna learn it at your job anyway, my dad's been working for 30+ years, and he still learns new stuff, but not from college.
First I want to say that there is no right or wrong way to live your life when it comes to learning. College should be a place where you deepen your understanding and learn new skills in a field that INTERESTS you. I don't think people should just go to college for the sake of going unless they KNOW that having a degree will get them a job. For example, I want to be an airline pilot or navy pilot and a BA or BS is mandatory here. But why not travel and join humanitarian efforts and volunteer?
strovrpwr 1 week ago
I respect Altucher's opinion a lot regarding the perils of going to college. My father hates his guts! I remember once sending him a link of Altucher's criticism of college my dad went into a frenzy! But much of what he said was true.
RJGula 2 weeks ago
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coopasan9 1 month ago
Im a freshmen college student. My theory is that the old people that is over 35 has a pretty decent education, and work experience that makes us young adult cannot be compare to. There is a limited amount of jobs, with limited amount of wealth to spread. Throughout my highschool year I'm just a student, but since im out of school, I'm a college bum with no job, and I spend my time on Xbox and TV because Burger King won't hire me. I am bum, but with authority over me, I am hard working person.
XiongDummy 1 month ago
I prefer to study to college for at least i know and learn something rather than not at all.
moistfaucet 2 months ago
im i being mind fucked or what?? the person with the harsh response about not going to college spelled nearly every word wrong =mind fuck
Holidayghost 3 months ago 2
@Holidayghost You do not learn how to spell basic words in college.
burke4961 1 week ago
Well of course your high paying IT jobs have been outsourced to India, Hydrabad the new Silicon Valley, stupid arrogant Indian prick.
DIJV79 5 months ago
The U.S Army has excellent college debt repayment programs.
DIJV79 5 months ago
3:45 was a PERFECT answer.
Trox118 6 months ago
@AtheosRecords hahaha yeah real funny hahaha, but the funniest part is you just wasted $300.... so hilarious, doctorate of arts in conspiracy studies what the hell can you gonna do with that? funny funny funny
chadwick1037 6 months ago
if you want to make real money in your lifetime, you need to get a government job.... The USA is turning into one big government...... we're fucked
chadwick1037 6 months ago
James is great, check out his blog, you'll be hooked. BTW, college is a F'n joke
HollywoodSheen 8 months ago
That bitch doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.
vfIskullangel 8 months ago
I will job sell drugs if this college shit doesn't work out.
MrJama1ca 9 months ago
I love how she said "that's weak" she must be from nor cal LOL
robertsrashad 10 months ago 4
I personally don't agree with "45% of students doesn't learn much in college." Learning doesn't need to be something you can show. Learning how to communicate with other, living with other, or even party with other are things you can learn in college. Things you can learn in college doesn't have to be Math or English.
kenchen1414212 10 months ago
James Altucher, Mark Twain of our time. And a cannibal, apparently.
MigaOhYT 10 months ago
James Altucher, Mark Twain of our time.
MigaOhYT 10 months ago
I graduated high school last year and my plan is to go with my hobbies at home, spend time with the people I love, work a job I can find locally and do youth volunteering. I researched it; as long as you don't volunteer abroad, it's free and gives you career options, and a chance to make new friends. As for school, I'm in a two-year college program now FOR FREE, and I love it. I'm thinking of paying my way through regular uni after and at least earning my bachelor's degree. Whatever it takes. =)
sgmvids 10 months ago
My cousin went to LSU for four years on a football scholarship and graduated, now he sells mercedes to the rich. He is still in the same money bracket he would be in if he had used his education i dont know if he would still have a job but as long as the rich are buying german cars i really dont think he cares about the wasted education. Do mercedes dealers need four year college degrees or do they just need to look and talk the part? Its more about who you know then what you know these days.
casinohijack 11 months ago 5
I'm a sophmore in college, getting a bio degree to go to med school. But I feel it is worthless. I really don't learn anything, I know most of the concepts that they are teaching me or have no use for the concepts those I don't know. I wish I could just skip undergrad, it is a waste of money for people that have another 8 years to go. And what if it turns out I don't want to be in medicine? I wish I had the money to do any of those suggestions, but I don't. I barely have money for college.
Kittylovr 1 year ago 3
@Kittylovr I was in burger king the other day and I was waiting for my order and I couldn't help but to over hear this conversation between two guys! One of the guys seems to be a very successful contractor and he was explaining how he had got his Bach Degree in Biology and never used it! IDK! it just really threw me for a curve! I always assumed a degree meant certain success. Glad I had that little eye opener!
xskullsnapzx 11 months ago 3
I Graduated college with a degree in Fine Arts. All in the while, when I was working retail I was complimented by a customer for my guest service. He came back to me at the check-out counter and asked me for an interview to work for a health-care organization. I am now a proud nursing assistant taking care up from 10+ patients a day. Customer service is the root of work ethics, and if you build up on it you'll actually get farther than you can than you would do in a classroom.
monk0065 1 year ago 2
I am currently going to Uni in Canada (and our school fees aren't as crazy as the ones in America)
I need a Uni Degree in order to be a teacher, but even if I didn't I would still go to Uni. I love learning and as much as I would love to go and travel I'm afraid that is not a realisitic option.
lasoripa 1 year ago
It's a sad world we live in when your only viable options are University, in which the costs never get lower, or criminal activity. : (
silentthriller 1 year ago
It's a pretty crappy world we live in where your only options are University which has prices that never fall or criminal activity.
silentthriller 1 year ago
Dropped out of college, but continued working full time. Now I've been given a pretty awesome opportunity to be apart of a business venture that could make me financially secure and I don't have a ton of debt. Dropping out worked for me.
slowlyawakening 1 year ago 3
@slowlyawakening i dropped out too. i sure believe it's for the better.
1991Avega 11 months ago
"You can say anything about religion." Really? It's my experience that fundies are usually the craziest, most judgmental and/or violent out of anyone.
Snowlandpixies 1 year ago
Another advice : become a Pimp, all u need is a fucking hoe.
KwuntaKinte 1 year ago
sometimes i regret going to college. i could have gone to a technical school for 2 years, gotten some certs, and really focused on my interests, instead of wasting my money and my time on nonsense in college.
i could've finished my studies sooner and could've been making money sooner, instead of being poor for 4+ years struggling to make ends meet and having almost nothing to show for all that struggle.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
I'm sick of kicking your ass at foosball
so this is good advice
EsCurve 1 year ago
I certainly spent a very significant portion of my collegiate years on the internet.
kowalityjesus 1 year ago
Volunteering? Mastering games? MAKING PEOPLE LAUGH????
LOOK...unless you have MONEY, or unless you VERY skilled at a craft...this list is fairy-tales and shouldn't be treated as realistic alternatives. This is for those who have financial security (many poor parents aren't going to give their child monies to go backpacking in India to experience life as a poor person...)
I hope Alyona reads this and realizes how misguided and loopy this is. Or maybe it's not meant for "middle" America...
strongpimphand 1 year ago
@strongpimphand The point is that you can go backpacking in India for cheaper than you can go to college. Why not go backpacking if it's going to do your career just as good?
TheGordonizer 1 year ago
@TheGordonizer That's a horrible point then.
One could instead choose a community college route, get an associates/certification, and enter the work force with a lesser amount of debt than a traditional 4 year student.
Because at the end of the day.....a person backpacking in India isn't going to help with most jobs. Doesn't really build experience that cannot be learned inside America. Doesn't do anything except give you (hopefully) awesome stories
strongpimphand 1 year ago
@strongpimphand Good points, but many poor parents don't have money to send their kids to college either. So the poor are out of this any way. The point is, if you have the money to send your kid to college, maybe you should spend much less and send them on a trip. If you don't have the money to do that, then you don't have the money to send them to college anyway.
alaskafido 1 year ago
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strongpimphand 1 year ago
consdel2000
this guy's message is that there are only a few high paying intellectually challenging jobs and most people should just accept the fact that they wont get them and should just be happy with taking a low paying repetitive working class job
but very few people will accept that
most people would rather live at home or turn to crime or become homeless rather than become a low paid working class wage slave
signboyy 1 year ago
@consdel2000
well actually i was refering to the fact that people were going to college and going into debt in order to have a high paying job with intellectual challenge
nobody wants the dull low paying jobs
and since only some college graduates get the good jobs the rest of the college graduates who cant get good jobs are living at home rather than work a mindless low paying job
signboyy 1 year ago
College and university are institutions and have suffered the same fate as all institutions. They became corrupt.
What people have to understand is that it's not a post-academic piece of paper that will make you a better person. It's knowledge as a whole. And these days, you'll get a lot more knowledge by doing things or self-teaching via the internet than you will writing 10,000 word essays for some college.
LordDyhalto 1 year ago 2
@LordDyhalto Yes.
PhotoExtremist 1 year ago
here in sweden is most ppl that go to the university 25+ and i havent heard of classes that doesnt force you to read 49+ pages a week or writing 4-10 pages a week
Gripen1974 1 year ago
what a nice fucking list I would love to travel the world...but guess what I do not have the money, I would love to start a business but I do not have the money. Traveling the world costs way more than 4 years of college.
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
As soon as i saw that retarded list, I stopped the video. I'm out y'all.
Phelan666 1 year ago
Many jobs that used to require just a high school degree now require college because of grade inflation. Much of college is just indoctrination. Just going to college isn't enough, one must attend a good (i.e., at least a highly selective, preferably a most) college. Furthermore, one of America's polite fictions is that of a meritocracy, although most of the middle, upper middle, and upper classes are there because of their parents and inheriting their values, attitudes, and mannerisms.
jaymthegenius 1 year ago
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I am tempted to think that increased tuition costs is a weapon in the class war to keep the working class and poor out, but Harvard accepts students whose parents make under $40,000 a year for free. Certain private secondary schools also accept students for free if their parents make under $150,000 a year. Although this could just be laying the foundation for having a reason to boast of being meritocratic. Having one very smart and poor exception only obscures the classist reality.
jaymthegenius 1 year ago
Maybe he has something there but it needs substance which he did not provide...reasons not to go to college should not be so damn simplistic .
saasaasaa010101 1 year ago
That list is pretty much worthless to a h.s. grad. 3, 4, 6, 7, & 8 are probably the only ones your average joe could realistically do. There are exceptions, but 1, 2, & 5 are probably better off left until you have some money and experience. Not even mentioned in this report is tech schools or community colleges. Both can provide a less expensive education, while giving you a lot of opportunities.
mrbr549 1 year ago
@Pyrolonn I agree that everyone should remain curious and informed no matter the level of education they pursue. Colleges are notoriously good at turning out graduates with degrees that while extremely costly, have little practical value in the real world, ie...B.A. in Underwater Basketweaving. (Not a real degree, but shows how ludicrous some degrees can be.)
mrbr549 1 year ago
4:20 So, RT will just display and read aloud whatever any random internet troll has posted?
Such rubbish. Unsubbed.
WouldbeSage 1 year ago
Was that letter from a foreigner or from a dude in Alabama?
Tounushi 1 year ago
If you can't go to college, spend $10.000 per month "traveling the world". Yeah, that's the ticket. Everybody it rich right?
itisYOUREnotYOUR 1 year ago
you can travel the world instead of college??
FrankSalazarJr 1 year ago
This is kind of sad, I've graduated from college, now close to finishing University - my total debt is $4700. Hello from Canada
yurity 1 year ago
HOW DO I MAKE MONEY TRAVELING THE WORLD TRANSPORTING DRUGS IN MY ASS??
CHRCAR5 1 year ago
Suicide will soon be another option.
RBLA818 1 year ago
I value my college and degree (bio b.s.) I agree it isn't for everyone. Though everyone should get some kind of vocational training. There aren't enough jobs so colleges turn out unusable degrees since someone is always better than you. If you have a passion get that degree, if you don't try something else. This guy's recommendations are absurd the alternatives are various types of education. Everyone should remain curious and informed no matter how little education they decide to purchase.
Pyrolonn 1 year ago
I think that threat was some troll having fun.
Dont go to college for the money, go for the great experience and friends you will make. Also Ivy colleges are over rated. However there are some professions where a college degree is required.
motorola99 1 year ago
instead of getting rid of college, how about make college cheaper and more effective. how would we do that??? hmmmm, maybe the FUCKING INTERNET!!!
mrzack888 1 year ago
College is a Scam.
motorola99 1 year ago
@consdel2000 my cousin went to Harvard Law school.
mrzack888 1 year ago
Getting out of college, best idea ever. I know people who went to college and are screwed and I am good . And by the way the person who wrote the response is a dumb jackass
freestylefighter123 1 year ago
college education =/= guaranteed employment BTW.. unemployment among young people with or without college degrees is higher than any other demographic GLOBALLY
CoconutsandBananas 1 year ago
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I live in a major university town where 40% of our population has a college degree, and many of these college graduates can barely write a complete sentence. And I've been astounded at how few can even spell at a high school level. And many of these college graduates here do not know the difference between there, their, and they're--it's frightening. To put it simply, they're pretty much fucking morons.
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hanslute 1 year ago
hey.. become a doctor or a nurse.. those baby boomers who are not leaving their jobs any time soon will still need health care!!
CoconutsandBananas 1 year ago
this guy works for the establishment and his mission is to convince people to accept low paying mindless jobs.
there are only enough high paying intellectually challenging jobs for about 15 percent of the people.
but the other 85 percent of people are no longer willing to become the slaves and the ruling elite consider that a problem.
the 85% are instead going into debt and would rather live at home or even become homeless or turn to crime rather than take a low paying mindless job.
signboyy 1 year ago
@consdel2000
Are you sure about that? It seems like it's mostly Jews who tell other people not to go to college. They, themselves, of course, go to college well beyond a "bachelor's" degree.
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
You can learn everything on the internet, or in a library. The only thing you need college for is the lab the one thing you cant learn at home, and writing skills what a joke called spell check , and half the time i do not worry about that.
79chemdog 1 year ago
@79chemdog Yea, my dad just told me, when he first went to his job, right out of college, they asked him and his work buddies, if they remember all the stuff they learned in school? So, they said no, who does? The employers replied "Good, because none of it applies to the real world."
haha
CJCA915 1 year ago
im going to fake my own death, and steal somebody else's identity rather than have to pay my 200K law school tuition.
mrzack888 1 year ago
@mrzack888 In other words, break the law...
CJCA915 1 year ago
Wow Alyona! You're too sexy! mmmmmmmmmmm
drrx8 1 year ago
@consdel2000 "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
CJCA915 1 year ago 41
@CJCA915 best quote i've herd in a while.
saasaasaa010101 1 year ago
@saasaasaa010101 lol.
CJCA915 1 year ago
there's another alternative
become a fucking criminal
WavesOfTrolls 1 year ago 30
@WavesOfTrolls thats equivalent to being a politician or a corporate banker
saasaasaa010101 1 year ago
@WavesOfTrolls Why would you become a politician?
Icyy 1 year ago
@WavesOfTrolls or people could return to a somewhat agrarian lifestyle and barter for living necessities...hell, u could start farming cannabis and do both at the same time lol
bubbabeau07 11 months ago
@WavesOfTrolls Interesting that you mention becoming a criminal. I have a Bachelor of Science in Global Logistics and Supply Chain Management. Yet I'm working a slave labor job for $9.50 hourly. Ironically, I'm certain the drug dealer down the street would be very fond of my skills in transportation and inventory control/distribution...I'm also certain he'd pay me more as well.
rickdarko 6 months ago 2
The best university is the school of hard knocks. University is needed for people who cannot think by themselves and need a silly paper in order to make money.
Duitslond 1 year ago
The reason college students no longer learn writing skills & critical thinking is because liberal arts education have been on the decline. Colleges have simply become a preparation for the business world. Learning writing skills & critical thinking will make you a better person & citizen, but it won't increase how much money you make in the real world. The data shows college graduates make more money. Money is what our society cares about. Colleges successfully serve that purpose.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
In order to get my degree in Computer Technology, I have to take all these useless prerequisite courses, even the college guidance person I go to set up my schedule, agrees that the courses that are "prerequisites" to the courses, like English, etc., that actually don't pertain to my degree but in the slightest bit, are just there, they have no relevance to your major, unless you're going into a English field, etc.
CJCA915 1 year ago
@CJCA915 Colleges teach less of those prerequisite courses than they used to. Earlier last century, it would've been more common for a college graduate to have learned writing skills & critical thinking. College graduates aren't as well educated as they used to be & yet people like you complain they're teaching you too much. If you want a technical skill, you don't need a college degree. There are community colleges & technical schools to teach you basic skills w/o all the prerequisite courses.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP I'm going to a technical college, and I still require all these unnecessary prerequisites. People like me? I don't complain about learning, I loved learning, I just think I should be learning about stuff geared towards my degree, not side issues.
My dad just told me, when he first went to his job, after college, they asked, if they remembered all the stuff they learned in school? They said no, and then they replied "Good, because none of it applies to the real world." haha.
CJCA915 1 year ago
@CJCA915 It depends on the type of technical college and what you're going to a technical college for. You can get just a certificate for some technical skill. If you're seeking something more than just a certicate and want an actual degree, then yes you have to take prerequisite courses. But that is your choice. No one is forcing you to get a degree rather than just a certificate of some sort.
The sad fact is Americans are ignorant & proud to be ignorant. All knowledge applies to reality. haha
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP I'm going for Computer Technology, I'm practically proficient already, when it comes to computers, I'm a quick study, I mean, in high school, out of a 90 minute course, I was done within 20-25 minutes, each day.
I don't think a degree in Computer Technology, requires English, World History, etc. Math and Science yea, but other things, not so much, at least from my perspective, and the college course people I've talked to.
Yes, but they were making a point, that what you learn...
CJCA915 1 year ago
@CJCA915 cont.
... in college, isn't always how it works in the real world, or how it will go in the real world, that's the point they were trying to make, just because you learn something one way, doesn't mean it will be exactly the same in the real world.
CJCA915 1 year ago
@CJCA915
No English or World History needed? Ok, then don't plan for any management positions. You might be required to produce reports that others can actually read.
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
@LibertaerUeberAlles If you can't learn how to read and write in grade school, college ain't gonna matter.
As for world history, for my career, the only history I need to worry about is technological, since my field is Computer Technology, I don't need to learn about the countless endeavors of Napoleon Bonaparte.
CJCA915 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Everyone is ignorant, if you knew what the word meant, which shows your ignorance, ignorance is the lack of knowledge in something, I not being a theoretical physicist or cosmologist, am ignorant by Stephen Hawking's standards, etc.
CJCA915 1 year ago
@CJCA915 Everyone is ignorant about something, but there are some important differences. Some people are more ignorant than others. And some people embrace their ignorance instead of trying to lessen it.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP True, religion for example, lol.
CJCA915 1 year ago
College is just a way to get a fancy paper that says you are "proficient" in a field, and you end up learning your job anyway after college, so what's the point of college, if you're gonna learn it at your job anyway, my dad's been working for 30+ years, and he still learns new stuff, but not from college.
CJCA915 1 year ago