so your grabbing a hose thats nozzle is loose in the building and using it to climb out???so now you and the nozzle are going for a ride 2 stories down, and taking the hose out of another firefighters hands so "you" can egress?
aww so you dont run down the coridoor chased by flames and jump out the window vin diesel style as the flames explode around you hehe also that boy needs to get his ass moving hes gonna die if he dont move his ass
Never seen it done, but also heard tale of a halligan or tool bail out where you tie off on a tool, place the tool in the window sill, and lower yourself down. Granted this would take some time and pretty f'reaking dangerous, but when all your cards are on the table and there is no other way.....I suppose.
This maybe impractical to use in the flashover situation but I was thinking it could be used when the point of egress cannot be accessed by a ladder for example power lines.
How did you enter the window if you're tying off the nozzle inside. If you entered the building on the 1st floor and had enough hoseline to drop the nozzle outside, if the hoseline has no more slack then you could bail using the hoseline. I guess my question is why would you enter an upper level with a ladder and a hoseline and not use the ladder to bail?
This would be a scenario where the interior attack team was already on the upper floor and hoisted the hose line into that window nozzle first. "Working" end of the line with the nozzle is somewhere in the building while the rest is running out the window, down the side of the building and back to the water source.
Did you tie off the hose with a rope? I'm just curious cause I have not used this method. It's always good to have options but I would trust an alternative to a charged line for bailing. We implement that at each side of the house has a ladder and each interior firefighter have a hand tool and atleast a 50ft rope bag and radio. There must also be a team on standy on scene for each team inside.
the concept here is normally that you throw the nozzle out the window. So he would have entered from the 1st floor, then radio for more slack..This is worse case scenerio and should never have to be used though.
@cjskiall It's for when you enter on a lower level and then have to bail once you've gone upstairs and can't leave the way you came in. We are not assigned personal bail out kits, this is one of the options we were shown. You would want to hook your leg around the hose better to provide more friction, the point is that you could hang with most of your body outside of the window while having an arm and leg hooked inside. This would greatly increase chance of survival in a flashover
The more you train the better you get. This was the first attempt at this skill. After multiple evolutions it gets quicker and more profecient, just like anything else.
@alwysbrdn True, but those are worse case scenarios. They are not always pretty or safe but goal is to get into a better environment than one you are in. And even hanging outside like that you're better off than inside.
Also on a fire scene you would most likely have someone at the bottom who could help swing the hose so you can wrap around it.
The hose was tied off to an interior railing. In a non training scenario I would most likely make a hole in a interior wall and anchor to a wall stud.
Depending on how much hoseline is in the building, the weight of the line and water itself combined with being stretched through the structure could also be enough to hold the weight of a firefighter.
thats what i was thinking in a must do situation through the line out the window and do what ya can cause at that pinch points through doorways and such would provide for enough friction i would think!
I watched this video about 2 month ago and had to use this technique early this morning...We had fire over our heads, and our point of egress was blocked. So we went out of a 2nd floor widnow about a 15 foot drop to the ground and used to hoseline as a bailout cord. Thank you for posting this i beleive me knowing about this technique saved my life and my bother firefighters, I wouldnt have thought of using the hoseline but i saw this video. thanks for posting it
This is why we train. We may never need these techniques, but when we do, it is good that we know what to do. I posted these videos becuase when we took the class it opened my eyes to things I knew I could use one day. Its good to know it helped someone else as well. Glad to hear everyone came out alright.
you may as well grab a lamp off the nearest nghtstand and jump
angimalchevez 4 months ago
so your grabbing a hose thats nozzle is loose in the building and using it to climb out???so now you and the nozzle are going for a ride 2 stories down, and taking the hose out of another firefighters hands so "you" can egress?
angimalchevez 4 months ago
aww so you dont run down the coridoor chased by flames and jump out the window vin diesel style as the flames explode around you hehe also that boy needs to get his ass moving hes gonna die if he dont move his ass
reesk92 7 months ago
how is he even a firefighter i hope he is not in my town or Im screwed
hmzaadam 8 months ago
@cheko:
Parallel Ladder raise will do just fine.
dcassel989 11 months ago
I'm in college now to be a firefighter...gonna put the wet stuff on the red stuff
soccadude123 1 year ago
I would not want that dude saving me thats for sure.
CrapMoShTank 1 year ago
Never seen it done, but also heard tale of a halligan or tool bail out where you tie off on a tool, place the tool in the window sill, and lower yourself down. Granted this would take some time and pretty f'reaking dangerous, but when all your cards are on the table and there is no other way.....I suppose.
dynodonfb7 1 year ago
This drill is just adding tools to the toolbox. Escape from a shitty situation by any means necessary ;) Everybody goes home.
FockeFire84 1 year ago
This maybe impractical to use in the flashover situation but I was thinking it could be used when the point of egress cannot be accessed by a ladder for example power lines.
CheKo136 1 year ago
It is a curious bailing out practice but I think that it is not possible in a real flashover
EGO79EGO 1 year ago
How did you enter the window if you're tying off the nozzle inside. If you entered the building on the 1st floor and had enough hoseline to drop the nozzle outside, if the hoseline has no more slack then you could bail using the hoseline. I guess my question is why would you enter an upper level with a ladder and a hoseline and not use the ladder to bail?
cjskiall 2 years ago 9
This would be a scenario where the interior attack team was already on the upper floor and hoisted the hose line into that window nozzle first. "Working" end of the line with the nozzle is somewhere in the building while the rest is running out the window, down the side of the building and back to the water source.
GTRider245 2 years ago 3
Because its a drill
pkenright 2 years ago
Did you tie off the hose with a rope? I'm just curious cause I have not used this method. It's always good to have options but I would trust an alternative to a charged line for bailing. We implement that at each side of the house has a ladder and each interior firefighter have a hand tool and atleast a 50ft rope bag and radio. There must also be a team on standy on scene for each team inside.
cjskiall 2 years ago
the concept here is normally that you throw the nozzle out the window. So he would have entered from the 1st floor, then radio for more slack..This is worse case scenerio and should never have to be used though.
ilovebreakbeats 2 years ago 2
@cjskiall It's for when you enter on a lower level and then have to bail once you've gone upstairs and can't leave the way you came in. We are not assigned personal bail out kits, this is one of the options we were shown. You would want to hook your leg around the hose better to provide more friction, the point is that you could hang with most of your body outside of the window while having an arm and leg hooked inside. This would greatly increase chance of survival in a flashover
smokingtdi 4 months ago
so this hose is charged right?
felio182 2 years ago
Yes. Hose is charged with the nozzle closed and tied off inside the building.
GTRider245 2 years ago
im in firefighting 1 class in madison
donuts13 2 years ago
Good luck!
GTRider245 2 years ago
lol thanks for taking me back to school on that one. any reason for the definitions or just throwing random things in for fun...
colin30lax 2 years ago
Seems to take a long time to get his feet around the hose. I a real flashover you don't have this time
alwysbrdn 2 years ago 9
The more you train the better you get. This was the first attempt at this skill. After multiple evolutions it gets quicker and more profecient, just like anything else.
GTRider245 2 years ago
@alwysbrdn True, but those are worse case scenarios. They are not always pretty or safe but goal is to get into a better environment than one you are in. And even hanging outside like that you're better off than inside.
Also on a fire scene you would most likely have someone at the bottom who could help swing the hose so you can wrap around it.
RFDlifer 8 months ago
The hose was tied off to an interior railing. In a non training scenario I would most likely make a hole in a interior wall and anchor to a wall stud.
Depending on how much hoseline is in the building, the weight of the line and water itself combined with being stretched through the structure could also be enough to hold the weight of a firefighter.
GTRider245 3 years ago
thats what i was thinking in a must do situation through the line out the window and do what ya can cause at that pinch points through doorways and such would provide for enough friction i would think!
nickelaz 2 years ago
How did you secure the hose on the interior, or what is it anchored to? Thanks
Tanfeliz 3 years ago
Or you could, you know, use it to put the fire out with. Just a thought.
bmac161 3 years ago 2
or you could use it to save your life
ohslax 3 years ago
Yeah i second that. Although, when the room is about to flash..youll move a little quicker :P
FirefighterJay89 3 years ago
yea i was deffinately thinking the same thing
ohslax 3 years ago
I watched this video about 2 month ago and had to use this technique early this morning...We had fire over our heads, and our point of egress was blocked. So we went out of a 2nd floor widnow about a 15 foot drop to the ground and used to hoseline as a bailout cord. Thank you for posting this i beleive me knowing about this technique saved my life and my bother firefighters, I wouldnt have thought of using the hoseline but i saw this video. thanks for posting it
drewemt 3 years ago
This is why we train. We may never need these techniques, but when we do, it is good that we know what to do. I posted these videos becuase when we took the class it opened my eyes to things I knew I could use one day. Its good to know it helped someone else as well. Glad to hear everyone came out alright.
Stay safe.
GTRider245 3 years ago
yeah exactly....at least now I can say that sitting around watching youtube saved my ass. hahah Thanks brother take care
drewemt 3 years ago
The line used here was 1 3/4" attack line. No one here fights interior fire with rubber jacketed hose.
GTRider245 3 years ago
wow useing a hose time as a emergency bailout cord great idea i never thought of that
drewemt 3 years ago