Wow. all because she was black. why should that matter? color means nothing. I couldn't imagine not being with someone I love all because of color. Its absurd and ridiculous.
Wow I m shocked to see this I was in this movie at 1:14 I walk behind the guy giving the speech thanks for uploading this I have not seen this in 10 years
these men are IDIOTS!!! they say race mixing is an abomination...well STOP STICKING YOUR WHITE JUU JUU IN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN! you really don't stand for what you say because if you did you wouldn't DARE touch an African woman. These men are the biggest hypocrites!
This whole things is so unbelievable!!! By then slaves could not talk like this to white people, they would have been beaten or lynched. It was a very horrific time, but this movie is not telling how it really was.
Really, when Sally was tied up at the wrists, stripped down, and being whipped, that was HOT. And no, I don't wanna her some racially apologetic BS about how black slavery was wrong. 'Cause all I'm saying is that I'd love to dress up and role play out that scenario with a biracial Betty who's got the white face and black assets. ;)
@darrinmagnus1 you sound like a fucked up sicko. first of all learn how to spell.. secondly... what is your thing with white face and black assets?!?!?! sicko
@khalilahinjapan - First off, bitch, you learn proper grammar, then can you critique my comments. (All of my spelling is correct, by the way.) Secondly, you don't know me, so go fuck yourself. Because I'm not to blame for your insecurities because you're not white mixed with a pretty face, good hair, fine skin, etc. That's not my problem.
'dishy200' wth? she was 3/4 white! she just happened to fall in love with a white man. fact is fact, and it is fact white men lusted for black women for hundreds of yrs.
'dishy200' wth? 'feel like a white woman?' she was 3/4 white! she just happened to fall in love with a white man. fact is fact, and it is fact white men lusted for black women for hundreds of yrs.
Yes, finally someone put this bitch in her place, her father was head of the household not her! to b frank, if it was allowed, sally would've been married to thomas jefferson regardless of the promise he made to his dead wife about not re-marrying. He loved that woman and martha was just jealous cause she wasn't as loved as Sally. Hater bitch!
she wanted white babiesss thats obvious and she wanted a white man to feel like a white woman. If I see another black movie about slavery.. I swear to GOD... getting sick of it
@susiQ75 James returned to France. France wasn't a very good place during the Revolution for anyone. He came back and then killed himself. He was an alcoholic poor soul.
What a funny statement, "pale, a negress capable of seducing white men", The women fresh from africa were more than capable of seducing white men, the most desired
haha the guy complaining about white people disappearing and talking badly of half breeds when he himself was making half breed children x]..well actually they weren't half breeds I guess..they were 1/8 black 7/8 white really..but still
@peanutsmom19 yes true..the Y chromosome of some of sally hemings male descendents is identical to that of some of the male descendents of jeffersons other descendents which proves that it was most likely jefferson...some people try to claim that it was jeffersons brother, nephews or cousin that could have fathered these children...well we can say the same about his other children too (his fully white ones) but nobody does...fact is thomas jefferson did father these children
@Sisyphus27 I can't remember what part #.... but in the scenes when Sally's sister first has her baby, as well as when Sally has Tom Jr. she kind of introduces them to the rest of the slaves... also, when Critter tells Sally about how she fixed herself, Sooky cared for her and told her that she wasn't able to have children any longer. Also later on in the movie, toward the end when Jefferson files for bankruptcy, she is sold, I believe.
If this relationship was a lie, then it was white folks that told it! As to the fact of white blood in African Americans, it's a known fact that black men were not the ones begetting half- white babies from the 1600s to, say, the middle half of the last century. Unless this is dealt with honestly as the truth of so-called "miscegenation", these awkward conversations on YouTube and other venues will continue.
If this relationship was a lie, then it was white folks that told it! As to the fact of white blood in African Americans, it's a known fact that black men were not the ones begetting white babies from the 1600s to, say, the middle half of the last century. Unless this is dealt with honestly as the truth of so-called "miscegenation", these awkward conversations on YouTube and other venues will continue.
And why did not James make his way back to France? He could have requested enough money from Jefferson for the voyage and he would have been able to find gainful employment in the new Napoleonic France. I think this is mostly made up of conjecture and ahistorical nonsense mixed with some truth. This affair between Jefferson and Sally is not fact but a matter of conjecture. There are black jefferson's but which Jefferson they sprang from cannot be DNA confirmed!!
Miniseries like 'Jefferson in Paris' & ‘Sally Hemings: American Scandal’ suck! They cast much too-old, much too-dark Mulattoes (Thandie Newton, Carmen Edjogo, etc.) to play the role of Sally Hemings, a 12-year old fair Quadroon. In addition, the screen play has Hemings (who again would have been a fearful 12 year old) as "the seductress" of "poor, helpless Jefferson" The disgusting role-reversed/dark-seductress false portrayal of Jefferson's sexual-abuse of Hemings ruin the entire miniseries
Forcible rape, sexual assault & sexual exploitation -- by plantation owners (& especially by overseers) against enslaved people of both genders -- was a very common practice used in the antebellum chattel-slavery era to create terror-based fear While Sally Hemings was NOT a Black or Mulatto enslaved person (she was a Quadroon enslaved person) -- like most enslaved-people of any race/ gender, sexual-terror & exploitation was used against her from childhood-on...by her captor
IT WAS 'RAPE" It was NOT a "relationship" As a young, enslaved CHILD (despite having white skin, gray eyes, brown hair) HEMINGS HAD NO CHOICE in the sexual exploitation of/assault on her sexual/reproductive organs To minimize, justify or excuse his exploitation of this enslaved person is as bad as excusing/ justifying any of the forms of enslavement In regards to “choices”, Hemings life was more akin to that of the kids in today's 3rd-world-child-brothels & not that of a "secret-mistress"
IT WAS NOT A "ROMANCE"! HEMINGS (a white-skin, brown-hair, grey-eyed Quadroon, look-alike half-sister of Jefferson's dead wife) WAS A 12 YEAR OLD ENSLAVED GIRL WHEN JEFFERSON 1st SEXUALLY ABUSED her. He even had a room built off his bedroom that he kept her LOCKED IN at night & also enslaved the Octoroon kids she had by him (although a few ran away w/o being hunted down by him) Locking up a 12 year old CHILD for use of sexual abuse & exploitation is NOT a "ROMANCE" -- IT IS CALLED RAPE
Miniseries like 'Jefferson in Paris' & ‘Sally Hemings: American Scandal’ suck! They cast much too-old, much too-dark Mulattoes (Thandie Newton, Carmen Edjogo, etc.) to play the role of Sally Hemings, a 12-year old fair Quadroon. In addition, the screen play has Hemings (who again would have been a fearful 12 year old) as "the seductress" of "poor, helpless Jefferson" The disgusting role-reversed/dark-seductress false portrayal of Jefferson's sexual-abuse of Hemings ruin the entire miniseries
Forcible rape, sexual assault & sexual exploitation -- by plantation owners (& especially by overseers) against enslaved people of both genders -- was a very common practice used in the antebellum chattel-slavery era to create terror-based fear While Sally Hemings was NOT a Black or Mulatto enslaved person (she was a Quadroon enslaved person) -- like most enslaved-people of any race/ gender, sexual-terror & exploitation was used against her from childhood-on...by her captor
IT WAS 'RAPE" It was NOT a "relationship" As a young, enslaved CHILD (despite having white skin, gray eyes, brown hair) HEMINGS HAD NO CHOICE in the sexual exploitation of/assault on her sexual/reproductive organs To minimize, justify or excuse his exploitation of this enslaved person is as bad as excusing/ justifying any of the forms of enslavement Hemings life was more akin to that of the kids in today's 3rd-world-child-brothels
IT WAS NOT A "ROMANCE"! HEMINGS (a white-skin, brown-hair, grey-eyed Quadroon, look-alike half-sister of Jefferson's dead wife) WAS A 12 YEAR OLD ENSLAVED GIRL WHEN JEFFERSON 1st SEXUALLY ABUSED her. He even had a room built off his bedroom that he kept her LOCKED IN at night & also enslaved the Octoroon kids she had by him (although a few ran away w/o being hunted down by him) Locking up a 12 year old CHILD for use of sexual abuse & exploitation is NOT a "ROMANCE" -- IT IS CALLED RAPE
I know slavery wasn't pretty but for a man to beat on a woman.....is HORRIFIC & UNFATHOMABLE! No let me change that....for ANYONE to beat a another person like that is HORRIFIC & UNFATHOMABLE!
fuck thomas jefferson
secretcombination94 1 week ago
lol at least i have bred in free labor
trevanismith 1 week ago
Wow. all because she was black. why should that matter? color means nothing. I couldn't imagine not being with someone I love all because of color. Its absurd and ridiculous.
clicklick007 2 weeks ago
@clicklick007 that's not worse than being black. We go anywhere in the world still today and can be treated wrongly because of our skin.
Juwan2good 2 days ago
@Juwan2good ??? thats not what I said. FYI i am black so yeah i know that in this day and age, people are still treated differently.
clicklick007 2 days ago
Women shaved their armpits back then?
gummywummy 1 month ago
Wow I m shocked to see this I was in this movie at 1:14 I walk behind the guy giving the speech thanks for uploading this I have not seen this in 10 years
PokerRoom101 1 month ago
these men are IDIOTS!!! they say race mixing is an abomination...well STOP STICKING YOUR WHITE JUU JUU IN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN! you really don't stand for what you say because if you did you wouldn't DARE touch an African woman. These men are the biggest hypocrites!
yumiko0017 1 month ago
Guess we will never know what really happened. Its probably not as fluffy as this is and probably less radical as Roots.
bkl139 1 month ago
Sally was a lightskinned slave so she was so white looking that she could get away with it.
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wow she should have not gone to help that man i would have said you are on your own negro and said what you come here for
trevanismith 3 months ago
WTF JAMES :O! NOOOOOO
kenzhane 4 months ago
DAMN I HATED THIS MOVIE!! WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP!!! COMPLETELY BULLSHIT!!!
Mspendragon72 4 months ago
This whole things is so unbelievable!!! By then slaves could not talk like this to white people, they would have been beaten or lynched. It was a very horrific time, but this movie is not telling how it really was.
snooky396 5 months ago
Really, when Sally was tied up at the wrists, stripped down, and being whipped, that was HOT. And no, I don't wanna her some racially apologetic BS about how black slavery was wrong. 'Cause all I'm saying is that I'd love to dress up and role play out that scenario with a biracial Betty who's got the white face and black assets. ;)
darrinmagnus1 8 months ago
@darrinmagnus1 you sound like a fucked up sicko. first of all learn how to spell.. secondly... what is your thing with white face and black assets?!?!?! sicko
khalilahinjapan 2 months ago
@khalilahinjapan - First off, bitch, you learn proper grammar, then can you critique my comments. (All of my spelling is correct, by the way.) Secondly, you don't know me, so go fuck yourself. Because I'm not to blame for your insecurities because you're not white mixed with a pretty face, good hair, fine skin, etc. That's not my problem.
darrinmagnus1 2 months ago
@darrinmagnus1 lol you have no idea what you are talking about. Go read a book or something.
khalilahinjapan 2 months ago
@darrinmagnus1 and it's "You need to learn ..." not, " You learn proper..." shakes head...
khalilahinjapan 2 months ago
'dishy200' wth? she was 3/4 white! she just happened to fall in love with a white man. fact is fact, and it is fact white men lusted for black women for hundreds of yrs.
spider760 9 months ago 6
@spider760 she didnt fall in love, wtf?
CaligirlSofia 8 months ago
'dishy200' wth? 'feel like a white woman?' she was 3/4 white! she just happened to fall in love with a white man. fact is fact, and it is fact white men lusted for black women for hundreds of yrs.
spider760 9 months ago
Yes, finally someone put this bitch in her place, her father was head of the household not her! to b frank, if it was allowed, sally would've been married to thomas jefferson regardless of the promise he made to his dead wife about not re-marrying. He loved that woman and martha was just jealous cause she wasn't as loved as Sally. Hater bitch!
haywoodjabobi 9 months ago
she wanted white babiesss thats obvious and she wanted a white man to feel like a white woman. If I see another black movie about slavery.. I swear to GOD... getting sick of it
dishy200 10 months ago
@dishy200 Then don't watch.
And Sally was part white, so that doesn't make any sense.
thefloacist 7 months ago
@dishy200 why are you watching the movies if you have a problem with it?
jjaguar707 1 month ago
I love how Sally's sister goes running in behind her ready to hear all about what happen LOL
keishaloveschelsea 10 months ago
I hate to say this but this script is horrible. Just horrible.
lunargoddess2002 11 months ago 2
James should've of stay in France. He should've of let Sally return without him.
susiQ75 1 year ago 26
@susiQ75 James returned to France. France wasn't a very good place during the Revolution for anyone. He came back and then killed himself. He was an alcoholic poor soul.
lunargoddess2002 11 months ago
@susiQ75 i agree i would have let sally go back by herself
trevanismith 1 week ago
Ok no more. This is a really good movie but I need some positive images in my brain and didn't realize this was a two part movie...lol
cedricrlongreen 1 year ago
What a funny statement, "pale, a negress capable of seducing white men", The women fresh from africa were more than capable of seducing white men, the most desired
Trueserum 1 year ago 21
@Trueserum And African women are very SOFT!Like pillows!
vmutuma 8 months ago
@Trueserum they seduced them? They were raped and taken advantage of by the white men.....
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Charlenejl 1 year ago
haha the guy complaining about white people disappearing and talking badly of half breeds when he himself was making half breed children x]..well actually they weren't half breeds I guess..they were 1/8 black 7/8 white really..but still
MyMadra 1 year ago
JAMES! NO.
iAsian92 1 year ago
DNA has proven that Thomas Jefferson fathered Sally's youngest so all this talk about conjecture is just talk.
peanutsmom19 1 year ago
@peanutsmom19 yes true..the Y chromosome of some of sally hemings male descendents is identical to that of some of the male descendents of jeffersons other descendents which proves that it was most likely jefferson...some people try to claim that it was jeffersons brother, nephews or cousin that could have fathered these children...well we can say the same about his other children too (his fully white ones) but nobody does...fact is thomas jefferson did father these children
MyMadra 1 year ago
Is the shaman she goes to see a slave or a free black?
Sisyphus27 1 year ago
@Sisyphus27 She's a slave... I think her name is Sooky. She's seen and mentioned prior to this part of the movie.
ultravioletskies07 1 year ago 2
@ultravioletskies07 In what part is she mentioned prior to this scene?
Sisyphus27 1 year ago
@Sisyphus27 I can't remember what part #.... but in the scenes when Sally's sister first has her baby, as well as when Sally has Tom Jr. she kind of introduces them to the rest of the slaves... also, when Critter tells Sally about how she fixed herself, Sooky cared for her and told her that she wasn't able to have children any longer. Also later on in the movie, toward the end when Jefferson files for bankruptcy, she is sold, I believe.
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If this relationship was a lie, then it was white folks that told it! As to the fact of white blood in African Americans, it's a known fact that black men were not the ones begetting half- white babies from the 1600s to, say, the middle half of the last century. Unless this is dealt with honestly as the truth of so-called "miscegenation", these awkward conversations on YouTube and other venues will continue.
4562deedee1 1 year ago
If this relationship was a lie, then it was white folks that told it! As to the fact of white blood in African Americans, it's a known fact that black men were not the ones begetting white babies from the 1600s to, say, the middle half of the last century. Unless this is dealt with honestly as the truth of so-called "miscegenation", these awkward conversations on YouTube and other venues will continue.
4562deedee1 1 year ago
And why did not James make his way back to France? He could have requested enough money from Jefferson for the voyage and he would have been able to find gainful employment in the new Napoleonic France. I think this is mostly made up of conjecture and ahistorical nonsense mixed with some truth. This affair between Jefferson and Sally is not fact but a matter of conjecture. There are black jefferson's but which Jefferson they sprang from cannot be DNA confirmed!!
flogil333 1 year ago
I don't understand WHY some slaves BETRAYED other slaves!!!
vmutuma 1 year ago
@vmutuma Think about it.
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I know slavery wasn't pretty but for a man to beat on a woman.....is HORRIFIC & UNFATHOMABLE! No let me change that....for ANYONE to beat a another person like that is HORRIFIC & UNFATHOMABLE!
mrsdicaprio22 1 year ago 5
This is a fantastic movie of history.
cocolucky1988 1 year ago
@cocolucky1988 most of this doesn't follow suit to what really happened
Juwan2good 2 days ago