@emmyjo720 No he's profreedom anti socialism Governments arent their to wipe your butt. Governments own nothing they have to take money from people to have money (Taxes). Governments that give out free heathcare have to take people hard earned money to give it to someone else
@skinnyttobuff I am proud to pay taxes to have a healthcare system, that allowed me to see my GP yesterday without having to pay and allowed everyone else that in the waiting room the same. Those that are under 16, over 65, who are unemployed etc will not have to pay for prescriptions either and nobody pays for birth control. I am happy to pay into that.
@emmyjo720 not every body is. I think that it should just be organizations that people donate too and have more church hospitals. Have Americans take care of Americans not the government
Republican propaganda won't work this time round especially when their contenders can't stop trying to "out-liberalise" each other while at the same time spewing out their conservative lies to appease the "base".
@MrSifter90 lol the reason we hav high HC cost is because the medical companies r brasing for obama care. Adding 30 m peepl to Hospitals and doctors will cause prices to go up do to them treating more patients. And all the dam regulations aint helpin. Get gov't out and the price will go down.
All my life I've been insured. Until now. I was covered under my Father's plan (employer sponsored?) but recently, my Father was laid off. It wouldn't have mattered anyway because I just hit 26 3 weeks ago. I applied for private insurance w/ Aetna but was denied because of a pre-existing condition. It's my fault no decent insurance company in CA will cover me. I'm a 26 year old student who just happens to be sick. #triplefail #kanyeshrug
"The collective principle asserts that... no society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means."
Is this what it's come to? Have the American people really been brainwashed to this point, to believe that Socialism is so terrible that it's considered morally right for somebody to die if they have no access to healthcare? To any Americans reading this comment- I'm from England. Can you understand why we, not just in England but in all of Europe, find this absolutely shocking to watch? That Americans are so anti-socialist, they're willing to let innocents die to preserve this stance?
The video is cut off before he can finish. That is blatantly obvious. Why would you cut it off? If Ron Paul is wrong then why cut it off before he can answer? The truth is if you don't elect Ron Paul the programs they are talking about will not be paid for. If he got in he would cut so much from over seas spending that we could at least take care of those who have become dependent on those programs and start phasing them out.
America should be described as a selfish nation with huge inequalities and NO freedom but fear of crime, homelessness, ill-health, unemployment, and deprivation.
Republicans love the death penalty and war but don't want healthcare reform because "I don't want pay for that", sorry greedy bastards, it's ok to spend billions on war but won't take care of their own citizens, they think they are all right because they are on the side of god, the same way suicide bombers justify their acts.
I love how all these "look what he/she said" videos for anything always cut off right before the person answers the actual question. If anyone had actually watched the debate they would know that Ron Paul did not say the guy should die. He went on to talk about how the real problem is the cost of health care in this country and if that were addressed, people would be able to afford their own insurance plans. Instead it's cut off to make it look like people are cheering for a guy dying.
@evanlongaccount How about the freedom to pursue your own life and make your own good decisions instead of being a complete fucktart and not getting insurance?
@evanlongaccount No not you. The fucktart is the guy who had the chance to get insurance but didn't. You're just some random person with a different view who may or may not be a complete or partial fucktart
At least Mitt Romney had the decency to look upon Ron Paul in disgust. The republican party is imploding on itself. Sorry America but Obama is your last chance for a decent man to be the head figure of our nation for the next 4 years. The republican party needs to get with the times or die out once and for all. Enough is enough. Any decent hard working American who votes republican is basically robbing their own home.
Obama? The only way I would vote for Mr. NDAA, is if you threatened me with castration. I'm writing in Ron Pauls name regardless. If Obama wins because of it, so be it. At least Romney won't win, and Obama will realize the only reason he won is because people wrote Ron Pauls name in. That would be a slap in the face to both parties, which is what they deserve.
@iPellino "Sorry America but Obama is your last chance for a decent man to be the head figure of our nation for the next 4 years. " Obama's a Wall Street puppet too, at least maybe the civil discourse would be better under him though than with the raving lunacy of the Repubs. They're all terrible though, including Obama.
@asubjectiveopinion AGAIN MISLEADING INFORMATION! Get your facts straight before talking shit! - Kent Snyder died because NO INSURANCE COMPANY would insure him, because of a underlying medical problem. It was not because he didn't want to spend his hard earn on routing medical insurance. The current system failed him. But what puzzles me is how does a man without insurance get treatment for 2 months costing him 400k? Hmmm Strange!
If you people simply looked deeper into what Ron Paul is saying. If we saved all the money he wants to save, there would be more wealth in THIS country! So charity and medical programs could actually be funded. What do you think he means when he says "cut the spending overseas" and "take care of people here at home?" You think that means let them die? Please read deeper! If you studied philosophy, you would understand him! He could make it easier and more affordable.
@BLawr3nce "If we saved all the money he wants to save, there would be more wealth in THIS country! So charity and medical programs could actually be funded. If you studied philosophy, you would understand him!" If you studied sociology, you might understand why this is a tragically flawed analysis. By cutting taxes, you lose the ability to redistribute wealth. Instead, it stays in the hands of the capitalist owning class, who have a tendency not to share it.
@BLawr3nce "More wealth" doesn't necessarily mean less inequality; in fact, it can mean just the opposite. The U. S. is a very rich country by GDP, yet the inequality is among the worst in the world.
Another thing, why are you using "Kent Snyder" as an example anyway? Your saying look what happened to "Kent Snyder?". No kidding? The failed policies are still in place. You cannot claim the same thing would have happend if Ron Paul's policies were enacted. because they aren't yet!!! Second, Kent Snyder's friends would have had the money if we weren't in a freaking depression! If we allowed Ron Paul to cut spending, we would all keep more of our money...then we can help people!
@scammedbygov "Kent Snyder died because NO INSURANCE COMPANY would insure him, because of a underlying medical problem. It was not because he didn't want to spend his hard earn on routing medical insurance. The current system failed him" What do you propose as an alternative? I don't know what you're suggesting with the 2 months of treatment comment; maybe his family blew their life savings on it.
It's somewhat misleading to present this as hyperthetical when Ron Paul was quite happy to let Kent Snyder, his 2008 campaign manager die because he couldn't afford health care,
I would be tempted to suggest that if Paul, a doctor who has, presumably taken the hypocratic oath, was prepared to let a member of his own team die then he would be more than willing to do the same for America's working poor.
I agree with the Obama part, but I think that with the national debt we have right now we should try and rely on human kindness for a while in order to clear our debt and balance our budget. Right now we have hardly enough money to spend on giving everyone medicaid. So here's my plan. Get the budget balanced so we have money, then bring back medicaid and in the mean time, if we see that everyone is fine without medicaid then we just don't bring it back.
@drewblue42 What's so important about balancing the budget, especially at the expense of human life? Forget the banks; the government can tell them to take a hike. Raising taxes on the capitalists would also go a long way toward improving our situation.
I guess your kind of crowd is the one when Ronmey or Gingrich said, sorry can't remember, lets just kill all of our enemies and have no negotiations. That crowd went wild. But I guess covering this is far more important then that. You even left the part out of this where Ron goes on to tell how the church would take care of him like they did in the 60's before government regulation of medicine
@evanlongaccount I have been talking with doctors who were active before medicaid. I asked them because recently I have been interested with politics. They have all told me that they would sometimes take care of people for free, and that was just how life went on. So I think that my argument is fair saying that the church would take care of people and that doctors would once again take care of some patients free of charge if we got rid of medicaid and medicare
@drewblue42 Do you know how else life would go on? Tens of millions of people couldn't afford care on a regular basis, aside from one or two free services of the type you're talking about and they'd have shortened lifespans as a result. In the richest country in the world, we can do better, and we must.
@evanlongaccount Tens of million of people who can't pay for healthcare will all die. The doctors will all say sucks and everyone will die. Why? Because doctors could care less for the people who are sick. Everyone will die at the age of 60 because their life span has decreased because they lack obamacare. Also everyone in america is happy with obamacare. Not a single person dislikes it. It is 100% perfect. Don't listen to actual doctors the government's got this one all covered.
@drewblue42 I don't think the Obama plan is very good at all. A Medicaid buy-in option, for instance, would have been much better, although there are still better possibilities than that. Whatever we do, we absolutely should have public medical insurance for all. Wrong Paul is very misleading when he says that charity is the answer. Nobody's stopping the hospitals from providing charity care now, and it's not sufficient.
The people here that are against what he is saying are probably welfare babies. Its called being responsible for the choices you make. you jump off a building and break your legs, should the government be required to pay for your treatment? if you think yes, than that just shows you how pathetic america has become.
I'm from The Netherlands. Over here, you have no choice. You are required by law to have health insurance. And i think it's a good system. Because hospitals are not allowed to refuse treatment to someone who's life is in danger, even if that person is not insured. So taxpayers pay for anybody who's not insured and i don't like that. I'd rather have everybody paying his share.
"And i think it's a good system. Because hospitals are not allowed to refuse treatment to someone who's life is in danger, even if that person is not insured."
It's the same in the United States, who told you otherwise? If your in a life threatening accident, no hospital in America will turn you away, not even if your an illegal immigrant.
@BLawr3nce "If your in a life threatening accident, no hospital in America will turn you away, not even if your an illegal immigrant." Yes, and they will take your house if you don't have the cash. That's the big difference.
@Bloodthirstyfruitfly "This is an absurdly biased video cut off before Mr. Paul could deliver his policy response" He had no policy response. You can see this in the many other videos of this debate. He
It shouldn't be a fucking CHOICE whether you want to risk living or dying in the first place. Europe is years ahead of us. My girlfriend couldn't afford health insurance and she almost died in a car accident. I'd punch those people's lights out that cheered for that if I could.
@awexsome2034 Oh I agree, and this the type of crowd that claim they are followers of Jesus Christ. And have great christian moral values. They are phony lost sheep that are manipulated by the GOP's greed and deception, Of course the real Jesus would not have denied in healing your girlfriend. Christ did say we should take care of the poor and sick. And he not say the GOV could not. We the People are the GOV.
@awexsome2034 is lying, then you blindly follow him off the cliff. No wonder we're in the mess we're in. That is not what Ron Paul is saying at all. Those people in the crowd were booing the people that don't take care of themselves. Smoking, drinking, eating fast food. Then they get sick without insurance, and the taxpayer pays. They're not booing his girlfriend. She would have gone to the ER. You're never turned away for emergencies. Thats totally different.
@BLawr3nce Tell me. What should she do afterwards if she had gone to the ER then end up with a bill that costs more than she makes in months? Are you morally OK with that? Destroying a person's financial well being if they're in a freak accident? Or private companies denying people their insurance because of capitalist ideals to profit off people's misfortune?
Hahaha, you have no idea what your even talking about. Hospitals in America don't let you die if your in an accident. Regardless of whether you have insurance or not, they will provide you care. That is an emergency. The only thing is, you will have a huge bill after, because you didn't bother getting insurance before, get it now? Europe healthcare sucks! So who cares if everyone is covered if it's not even effective? Just eat well and don't drink or smoke.
Some people work hard, but don't have the money, or access to healthcare. Does that mean they should be left to die? What sick pieces of shit in that audience, I wish the camera zoomed in on the guy that yelled "Yeah!" so we can find out who he is...His life and reputation deserve to be tarnished...
@pancakehead911 "Some people work hard, but don't have the money, or access to healthcare. Does that mean they should be left to die? " It's scary that this is even a question in the U. S. today.
Hilarious that the Republican party is seen as the party of Jesus. What would Jesus think of this? Would Jesus like the idea of people profiting off of others sickness? Bunch of hypocrites.
@hab99rry "Hilarious that the Republican party is seen as the party of Jesus." No, only they see themselves that way. They do a lot of Bible-thumping though, if that's what you mean.
The ONLY reason our uninsured people would die is BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT. They put so much regulation on healthcare that the prices go up and there is no competition. If you want the BEST and CHEAPEST healthcare you need to have people competing in the practice of medicine. I would not let an uninsured person DIE. If prices were more affordable with a free market, I could in fact help A LOT more than I could now.
@seantbird09 "really? and this video was cut off at the end, he was trying to explain why he wouldn't let an uninsured die." No, not really. Actually, I believe his campaign manager died because he couldn't get medical insurance due to a preexisting condition. So much for that...
@seantbird09 " If prices were more affordable with a free market, I could in fact help A LOT more than I could now." Prices would not, repeat, would not be lower with a "free market." Where did you get this idea?
@latinasdoitbetter1 Oh yes because the things mentioned are still in practice today right grandma? Now would you kindly point to me which Churches are providing free health care? I will also keep in mind to ask my friend for Thousands of dollars next time I have high Medical Bills! Grandma! .
@latinasdoitbetter1 Like I said granny, point me to those hospitals that provide you with aid. Aid with Medication and medical bills! But let's face facts Granny, if our health care system wasn't as shitty as it i, 700,000 People wouldn't have to file for bankruptcy every year! And wRong Paul isn't going to make things any better either. wRong Paul plans to Privatize everything, thus allowing Private insurance companies to continue to expand their seedy practices, grandma. That's a fact!
@latinasdoitbetter1 By the way grandma, it doesn't matter how well you take care of yourself, CANCER is an equal Opportunity offender, Stupid over the hill broad!
@latinasdoitbetter1 I think you are the one who is going to be dying soon grandma, those crows feet and varicose veins can attest to that! Now then, what a great nation it must be, a place where they allow people to simply Die for lack of health care! wRong Paul is yet to provide an adequate alternative, thus under wRong Paul's America, children who are born with cancer will have a lower survival rate! Grandma, now go go sign up for AARP Will ya? !
@RUDY2295 "It was very clear. Wolf Blitzah- "are you saying that society should just let him die?" Crowd- "YEAH" Ron Paul- "No". I don't get how people are putting the audience's words in RP's mouth." The title is "Tea Party Crowd Cheers..." Anyway, Wrong Paul's answer basically amounts to a "yes." "Taking your own risks" basically means, "screw you if you can't afford insurance." Depending on charity is not the kind of system we should have in the richest country in the world.
@rushersftw "It's like someone wanting a Ferrari but not willing to pay a dime for it, expecting the government to pamper him like a spoiled brat." Necessary medical care and luxury sport cars are not even remotely comparable. Your argument falls apart quite easily.
@hooooookary Why would any Christian help dumbass who wants to get everything for free (free medical health) without paying a dime just because "he can"?
@rushersftw are christians not familiar with the samaritan story? and also bc a few abuse of the system does not mean you have the right to take away the option from people who really need it. How does it makes sense to take away a right just bc of a few leeches? you don't know the reasons or the situation of every person who gets free healthcare or do you?
@hooooookary are you familiar with the part in the bible where jesus points out that the poor woman who donated a penny to the church gave more so than all of the other people combined since they only gave their spare change whereas she gave all she had?
how many morally righteous liberals would sacrifice their last penny to a stranger?
@Subjugator1866 "well we know leftist atheists wont give anything to anyone, however they sure will be liberal with spending other peoples money" Leftist atheists won't give anything to anyone? What are you talking about?
@Subjugator1866 "how many morally righteous liberals would sacrifice their last penny to a stranger?" We're not talking about last pennies. There's an enormous amount of wealth in the U. S., and an enormous amount of economic and political inequality.
@fede018 dont believe this media spin. Hospitals here wont refuse to treat you. If you don't have insurance you are just responsible to make payments on your medical bills.
@a1rh3add "dont believe this media spin. Hospitals here wont refuse to treat you. If you don't have insurance you are just responsible to make payments on your medical bills." This is not media spin. In many states, hospitals are required by law to treat people below a certain income threshold for free, but if you're over that, you can easily get stuck with a $30K, $40K, $50K bill. People without insurance are regularly charged up to 3x what the insured are. #1 cause of bankruptcy
Wow... way to bend the truth. First off, its a persons choice to get healthcare. Second, due to the oath healthperfesionals take the. MUST treat him. The insurance is to help cover the cost. In some one wants to, they can just get rreated and pay to dollars a month on the bill to show an effort to pay. The hospital can just write off the cost as a cheritable expense. It happens all the time, and yet the individual sstill has to pay. So in essence, the hospital gets paid twice. Nice try mac.
@Jaxurcar1 "Wow... way to bend the truth. First off, its a persons choice to get healthcare. Second, due to the oath healthperfesionals take the. MUST treat him." #1, it's not a choice if you can't afford it, as many can't. #2, doctors regularly refuse to treat patients who can't afford to pay. If you fall behind on payments, you can lose your credit rating completely, even your house.
freedom to take risk? shit. what a privileged and sheltered point of view. The point of having a freedom also means having a government to assist you when you need the most especially given the example from the host. Ron Paul, as much as you want to paint socialism or whatever is bad, your assessment is as radical as it gets. Crazy guy!
The example guy has a "good job", make a "good living" but he chooses not to have health insurance? Well, that's too bad that's his decision. Don't expect others to become his savior. Every choice comes with consequences. Deal with it like a man (or woman).
Wanna skip studying for final exam? Go ahead but don't get mad if you get C-
Wanna smoke cigarette? Go ahead but don't be surprised if you get lung cancer
Wanna eat lots of food? Go ahead but don't be sad when you get fat.
It was very clear. Wolf Blitzah- "are you saying that society should just let him die?" Crowd- "YEAH" Ron Paul- "No". I don't get how people are putting the audience's words in RP's mouth.
@CaptainRidley If I make the choice not to pay $320 a year for my auto insurance and then get into a car accident it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to pay for it... OR, should the Government pay for that as well ?? if so, then I will safe more money on my car insurance by dumping Geico.
@thabilldozer64 I understand the point you are trying to make but I feel that healthcare is a human right because healthcare=living. It's a complicated issue and with 300 million people here there is no simple solution. I wish we could be a little more humane about it. I love Ron Paul and agree with him on 90% of what he says but expecting the churches to take care of everyone who doesn't have HI is a little unrealistic.
@CaptainRidley A friend of mine posted this same video to my Facebook page... my point to him (and everyone watching it) is that Ron Paul clearly gives his answer as "No" meaning that he does not think that this fictitious person should just be left to die. People in the audience were not cheering the indiscriminate killing of people, but rather the freedom that WE all have to choose for ourselves what we do with OUR lives.
@thabilldozer64 "WE all have to choose for ourselves what we do with OUR lives." That sounds really nice, but it completely ignores the fact of serious economic inequality. We do not have equal options.
Is this the only video on the subject you've seen? When government got involved, it drove up cost with all their regulations and red tape. Under Ron Paul, he would take government out of healthcare. Before then, it was way more affordable to go see a doctor. So he is not implying that people will go without. In fact more people go without insurance now, then back then. So nobody is ignoring anything. You may be lacking a deeper understanding of the facts.
@BLawr3nce "You may be lacking a deeper understanding of the facts." That's just it, though; if these "facts" are so easy to grasp, why has no one clearly demonstrated them? Show me how medical care was more affordable before Medicare and Medicaid, and how the average member of the proletariat had access to care.
Just look at how when Ron Paul says it was better, and more affordable, and easier to access. No one argues with him. Ron Paul is an MD after all, and he was around. People just have very short memories, and don't read enough. Having said that, I will say to do your own research, don't rely on what I am saying. I have done the research. I also use to work in home healthcare. Trust me, there are many stories about the inefficiency of government run medical care.
@BLawr3nce No, I'm asking you to show me the facts. I don't believe Wrong Paul; I think he's lying to influence people toward his reactionary political agenda, and I don't believe you; I think you're rather foolishly believing him. I want facts about the costs of medical care over the 20th century. You've just admitted you don't have factual support for your argument. And no kidding a room full of Republicans aren't going to disagree with him advancing this agenda.
Yes, please do your own research. There aren't enough characters allowed to give you all the facts here. Google "Government run health care pros and cons" and make an educated decision. Did you know in some countries with government run healthcare, you may wait months for a simple MRI? You are ignorant beyond belief. So you think Ron Paul is a liar? How dumb do you have to be, to deny that he predicted events? Show me even a sliver of proof he lies, please.
@BLawr3nce I have done "my own research," and it directly contradicts what you and Wrong Paul are saying here. If you want to convince me of your point of view, you've got a lot of work to do.
No shit Sherlock, how is that Ron Paul's fault? The SAME failed policies are STILL at work? Btw, his other ideas take care of the equality part. Ever hear about him wanting to cut trillions of dollars from wasteful overseas spending? Where do you think that money will go genius? In our pocket! Making us economically equal...god please read more. I am getting so tired of the ignorance. If you don't understand what he is saying, just admit it and talk to someone that does.
@BLawr3nce "Ever hear about him wanting to cut trillions of dollars from wasteful overseas spending? Where do you think that money will go genius? In our pocket! Making us economically equal...god please read more." I'm reading away and coming up with very different conclusions. The money from military cuts will NOT end up in "our" pockets, "genius"; Wrong Paul does not believe in social services and will cut these programs too. The money from cuts will stay with the capitalists.
@Nered88 Yes, "survival of the fittest" is a concept associated with Social Darwinism, which in turn was associated with fascism and eugenics. Translation: might makes right, and look out if you're not a billionaire, because anything goes. This is not a philosophy which is in the class interest of the 99%.
@evanlongaccount You don't have to be a billionaire. There just needs to be a demand for you on the market. In other words, become something that is needed. And social Darwinism is quite a dandy concept in my eyes.. even if it was associated with fascism and eugenics, it does not mean its a negative thing.
@Nered88 "even if it was associated with fascism and eugenics, it does not mean its a negative thing." How about, it was central to fascism and eugenics? History is the tale of the strong trying to take advantage of the weak, and here you are, cheering them on. That is sick, and it amounts to class suicide.
@Nered88 "There just needs to be a demand for you on the market. In other words, become something that is needed." What is sold on "the market" under capitalism, especially a laissez-faire/Social Darwinist model, does not necessarily relate to its actual usefulness, but rather to its exchangeability. Sometimes, the two overlap, but "the market" is a very inefficient system for routing needed goods to people. The robbing of workers of our ability to create what is needed is exploitation.
@ZetaPrime9699 They were not cheering to put the person in the scenario to death... they were cheering for FREEDOM OF CHOICE... try watching it again.
@thabilldozer64 "They were not cheering to put the person in the scenario to death... they were cheering for FREEDOM OF CHOICE... try watching it again." They were cheering to let the person die. That's "freedom of choice," and it should be cheered?" That's sick, is what it is.
did people really just cheer for that? Wow... I'm sorry but this is the kind of thing that creates a stereotype that Americans are selfish and uncaring for others. I KNOW not everyone is, but wow, be careful who you vote to represent you America.
@claton95 Why ?? what I have seen over the past year is people putting words into Ron Paul's mouth that never belonged there in the first place. In this video Ron Paul answered the question with a "No"... it was someone in the audience that shouted "Yeah". maybe you should watch it again.
@thabilldozer64 "Why ?? what I have seen over the past year is people putting words into Ron Paul's mouth that never belonged there in the first place." Actually, it was Wrong Paul who put words that shouldn't have been there in his own mouth. In the richest country in the world, we shouldn't have the kind of inequality we do, and we shouldn't be leaving medical care for tens of millions of people up to charity due to the adversity of the rich.
Any political party that would put this group of moronic douche bags as front front runners to he presidency, must really hate America.
marley54fd 5 days ago
let that man speak!!!!! (mutters).... getting all excited for wrong thing....doggon sheeple...
xblueoctoberx 5 days ago in playlist Stuff Phil Likes: Tuesday Sep 13th, 2011
So they are not Pro-Life then..
emmyjo720 6 days ago
@emmyjo720 No he's profreedom anti socialism Governments arent their to wipe your butt. Governments own nothing they have to take money from people to have money (Taxes). Governments that give out free heathcare have to take people hard earned money to give it to someone else
skinnyttobuff 1 day ago
@skinnyttobuff I am proud to pay taxes to have a healthcare system, that allowed me to see my GP yesterday without having to pay and allowed everyone else that in the waiting room the same. Those that are under 16, over 65, who are unemployed etc will not have to pay for prescriptions either and nobody pays for birth control. I am happy to pay into that.
emmyjo720 1 day ago
@emmyjo720 not every body is. I think that it should just be organizations that people donate too and have more church hospitals. Have Americans take care of Americans not the government
skinnyttobuff 1 day ago
Ron Paul is such a weenie.
SaganAppreciationSoc 6 days ago
@SaganAppreciationSoc what?
skinnyttobuff 1 day ago
Republican propaganda won't work this time round especially when their contenders can't stop trying to "out-liberalise" each other while at the same time spewing out their conservative lies to appease the "base".
yortko1 6 days ago
The should get rid of pre existing conditions. Hear thats BS.
Android602715 1 week ago
@MrSifter90 lol the reason we hav high HC cost is because the medical companies r brasing for obama care. Adding 30 m peepl to Hospitals and doctors will cause prices to go up do to them treating more patients. And all the dam regulations aint helpin. Get gov't out and the price will go down.
Android602715 1 week ago
@Android602715 At least do your research. Healthcare costs shot up just after bush was first elected. Iv never heard of Bush care, what did he do??.
But even before then, they were by far highest in the world with outcomes worse than some developing nations.
MrSifter90 1 week ago
These people are idiots. 'Socialised' medicine in UK costs 1/3 as much as privatised medicine in US. And it has far better health outcomes.
MrSifter90 1 week ago
Sometimes I wonder why the world hates America...then I watch videos like these...
Don't look at me, I supported the bill for socialized medicine....
fabulapowers 1 week ago
All my life I've been insured. Until now. I was covered under my Father's plan (employer sponsored?) but recently, my Father was laid off. It wouldn't have mattered anyway because I just hit 26 3 weeks ago. I applied for private insurance w/ Aetna but was denied because of a pre-existing condition. It's my fault no decent insurance company in CA will cover me. I'm a 26 year old student who just happens to be sick. #triplefail #kanyeshrug
Fayme20 1 week ago
"The collective principle asserts that... no society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means."
— Aneurin Bevan
tantive4 1 week ago
Thanks God this not happen in UK, any human life is more important we treat the patient before we ask for money
xeeshan366 2 weeks ago 6
@xeeshan366 UK is trash
fuckvegan 1 week ago
@fuckvegan Sorry, we couldn't hear you over our free healthcare.
sprucemoose18 1 week ago 2
Is this what it's come to? Have the American people really been brainwashed to this point, to believe that Socialism is so terrible that it's considered morally right for somebody to die if they have no access to healthcare? To any Americans reading this comment- I'm from England. Can you understand why we, not just in England but in all of Europe, find this absolutely shocking to watch? That Americans are so anti-socialist, they're willing to let innocents die to preserve this stance?
sprucemoose18 2 weeks ago
How is that a TEAPARTY crowd? for all you know it could be a bunch of liberal college kids or a bunch of aliens.
IDIOTIC ASSUMPTION.
goseeforyourself 2 weeks ago
It is not anyone's RIGHT to have someone baby them.
He made the choice to not get insured. "he decided not to spend the money on insurance figuring he was a healthy guy"
assume responsibility for your actions.
I have a cold right now, and by your logic, YOU SHOULD BE BUYING ME MEDICINE, so come on, give me the money.
goseeforyourself 2 weeks ago
The video is cut off before he can finish. That is blatantly obvious. Why would you cut it off? If Ron Paul is wrong then why cut it off before he can answer? The truth is if you don't elect Ron Paul the programs they are talking about will not be paid for. If he got in he would cut so much from over seas spending that we could at least take care of those who have become dependent on those programs and start phasing them out.
Villanovagypsy 2 weeks ago
America should be described as a selfish nation with huge inequalities and NO freedom but fear of crime, homelessness, ill-health, unemployment, and deprivation.
MrOfferp 2 weeks ago
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Republicans love the death penalty and war but don't want healthcare reform because "I don't want pay for that", sorry greedy bastards, it's ok to spend billions on war but won't take care of their own citizens, they think they are all right because they are on the side of god, the same way suicide bombers justify their acts.
rainmon 2 weeks ago
I love how all these "look what he/she said" videos for anything always cut off right before the person answers the actual question. If anyone had actually watched the debate they would know that Ron Paul did not say the guy should die. He went on to talk about how the real problem is the cost of health care in this country and if that were addressed, people would be able to afford their own insurance plans. Instead it's cut off to make it look like people are cheering for a guy dying.
Occdar 2 weeks ago
I love the part where this guy is talking out of his ass with this question.
MicrosoftNestleTea 2 weeks ago
How can he do "whatever he wants to do and assume responsibility to himself" when he's in a fucking coma?
wangsta25 2 weeks ago
If society should not let him die then no one should buy insurance. America will cover everyone. This is just stupid.
karrotman 3 weeks ago
sounds like they're cheering for freedom
DimensionsofChange 3 weeks ago
@DimensionsofChange The freedom to die without treatment when treatment is available? That doesn't sound like the kind of "freedom" I want.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@evanlongaccount How about the freedom to pursue your own life and make your own good decisions instead of being a complete fucktart and not getting insurance?
DimensionsofChange 3 weeks ago
@DimensionsofChange How about the ability to engage in debate without instantly resorting to obscene name-calling?
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@evanlongaccount No not you. The fucktart is the guy who had the chance to get insurance but didn't. You're just some random person with a different view who may or may not be a complete or partial fucktart
DimensionsofChange 3 weeks ago
At least Mitt Romney had the decency to look upon Ron Paul in disgust. The republican party is imploding on itself. Sorry America but Obama is your last chance for a decent man to be the head figure of our nation for the next 4 years. The republican party needs to get with the times or die out once and for all. Enough is enough. Any decent hard working American who votes republican is basically robbing their own home.
iPellino 4 weeks ago
@iPellino
Obama? The only way I would vote for Mr. NDAA, is if you threatened me with castration. I'm writing in Ron Pauls name regardless. If Obama wins because of it, so be it. At least Romney won't win, and Obama will realize the only reason he won is because people wrote Ron Pauls name in. That would be a slap in the face to both parties, which is what they deserve.
BLawr3nce 3 weeks ago
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@iPellino "Sorry America but Obama is your last chance for a decent man to be the head figure of our nation for the next 4 years. " Obama's a Wall Street puppet too, at least maybe the civil discourse would be better under him though than with the raving lunacy of the Repubs. They're all terrible though, including Obama.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@asubjectiveopinion AGAIN MISLEADING INFORMATION! Get your facts straight before talking shit! - Kent Snyder died because NO INSURANCE COMPANY would insure him, because of a underlying medical problem. It was not because he didn't want to spend his hard earn on routing medical insurance. The current system failed him. But what puzzles me is how does a man without insurance get treatment for 2 months costing him 400k? Hmmm Strange!
scammedbygov 1 month ago
@scammedbygov
If you people simply looked deeper into what Ron Paul is saying. If we saved all the money he wants to save, there would be more wealth in THIS country! So charity and medical programs could actually be funded. What do you think he means when he says "cut the spending overseas" and "take care of people here at home?" You think that means let them die? Please read deeper! If you studied philosophy, you would understand him! He could make it easier and more affordable.
BLawr3nce 3 weeks ago
@BLawr3nce "If we saved all the money he wants to save, there would be more wealth in THIS country! So charity and medical programs could actually be funded. If you studied philosophy, you would understand him!" If you studied sociology, you might understand why this is a tragically flawed analysis. By cutting taxes, you lose the ability to redistribute wealth. Instead, it stays in the hands of the capitalist owning class, who have a tendency not to share it.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@BLawr3nce "More wealth" doesn't necessarily mean less inequality; in fact, it can mean just the opposite. The U. S. is a very rich country by GDP, yet the inequality is among the worst in the world.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@scammedbygov
Another thing, why are you using "Kent Snyder" as an example anyway? Your saying look what happened to "Kent Snyder?". No kidding? The failed policies are still in place. You cannot claim the same thing would have happend if Ron Paul's policies were enacted. because they aren't yet!!! Second, Kent Snyder's friends would have had the money if we weren't in a freaking depression! If we allowed Ron Paul to cut spending, we would all keep more of our money...then we can help people!
BLawr3nce 3 weeks ago
@BLawr3nce They would have had $400K every two months? Probably not, and that's a good system, anyway?
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@scammedbygov "Kent Snyder died because NO INSURANCE COMPANY would insure him, because of a underlying medical problem. It was not because he didn't want to spend his hard earn on routing medical insurance. The current system failed him" What do you propose as an alternative? I don't know what you're suggesting with the 2 months of treatment comment; maybe his family blew their life savings on it.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
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It's somewhat misleading to present this as hyperthetical when Ron Paul was quite happy to let Kent Snyder, his 2008 campaign manager die because he couldn't afford health care,
I would be tempted to suggest that if Paul, a doctor who has, presumably taken the hypocratic oath, was prepared to let a member of his own team die then he would be more than willing to do the same for America's working poor.
Be under no illusions, he is one callous cunt.
asubjectiveopinion 1 month ago
I agree with the Obama part, but I think that with the national debt we have right now we should try and rely on human kindness for a while in order to clear our debt and balance our budget. Right now we have hardly enough money to spend on giving everyone medicaid. So here's my plan. Get the budget balanced so we have money, then bring back medicaid and in the mean time, if we see that everyone is fine without medicaid then we just don't bring it back.
drewblue42 1 month ago
@drewblue42 What's so important about balancing the budget, especially at the expense of human life? Forget the banks; the government can tell them to take a hike. Raising taxes on the capitalists would also go a long way toward improving our situation.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
Always proud to be Scottish, never more so than right now....
bobby6129 1 month ago
I guess your kind of crowd is the one when Ronmey or Gingrich said, sorry can't remember, lets just kill all of our enemies and have no negotiations. That crowd went wild. But I guess covering this is far more important then that. You even left the part out of this where Ron goes on to tell how the church would take care of him like they did in the 60's before government regulation of medicine
drewblue42 1 month ago
@drewblue42 The church didn't take care of everyone before Medicare and Medicaid. That's the big problem with this argument.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@evanlongaccount I have been talking with doctors who were active before medicaid. I asked them because recently I have been interested with politics. They have all told me that they would sometimes take care of people for free, and that was just how life went on. So I think that my argument is fair saying that the church would take care of people and that doctors would once again take care of some patients free of charge if we got rid of medicaid and medicare
drewblue42 1 month ago
@drewblue42 Do you know how else life would go on? Tens of millions of people couldn't afford care on a regular basis, aside from one or two free services of the type you're talking about and they'd have shortened lifespans as a result. In the richest country in the world, we can do better, and we must.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@evanlongaccount Tens of million of people who can't pay for healthcare will all die. The doctors will all say sucks and everyone will die. Why? Because doctors could care less for the people who are sick. Everyone will die at the age of 60 because their life span has decreased because they lack obamacare. Also everyone in america is happy with obamacare. Not a single person dislikes it. It is 100% perfect. Don't listen to actual doctors the government's got this one all covered.
drewblue42 1 month ago
@drewblue42 I don't think the Obama plan is very good at all. A Medicaid buy-in option, for instance, would have been much better, although there are still better possibilities than that. Whatever we do, we absolutely should have public medical insurance for all. Wrong Paul is very misleading when he says that charity is the answer. Nobody's stopping the hospitals from providing charity care now, and it's not sufficient.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
It is our RIGHT to pursue Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Health Care!...Oh wait, for some reason that doesn't sound right.
sceva01 1 month ago
The people here that are against what he is saying are probably welfare babies. Its called being responsible for the choices you make. you jump off a building and break your legs, should the government be required to pay for your treatment? if you think yes, than that just shows you how pathetic america has become.
kenshin135 1 month ago
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I'm from The Netherlands. Over here, you have no choice. You are required by law to have health insurance. And i think it's a good system. Because hospitals are not allowed to refuse treatment to someone who's life is in danger, even if that person is not insured. So taxpayers pay for anybody who's not insured and i don't like that. I'd rather have everybody paying his share.
Troublesome2008 1 month ago
@Troublesome2008
"And i think it's a good system. Because hospitals are not allowed to refuse treatment to someone who's life is in danger, even if that person is not insured."
It's the same in the United States, who told you otherwise? If your in a life threatening accident, no hospital in America will turn you away, not even if your an illegal immigrant.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce
I never said that it's any different in the USA. Read my comment again (and the comment i was responding to).
Troublesome2008 1 month ago
@Troublesome2008
Your right, I didn't read the comment you replied too, my bad!
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
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@BLawr3nce "If your in a life threatening accident, no hospital in America will turn you away, not even if your an illegal immigrant." Yes, and they will take your house if you don't have the cash. That's the big difference.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@kenshin135 Yes, we all have a social interest in seeing that people are not unable to pay for medical care.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
He would let him die !
ghune 1 month ago
@Bloodthirstyfruitfly "This is an absurdly biased video cut off before Mr. Paul could deliver his policy response" He had no policy response. You can see this in the many other videos of this debate. He
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
It shouldn't be a fucking CHOICE whether you want to risk living or dying in the first place. Europe is years ahead of us. My girlfriend couldn't afford health insurance and she almost died in a car accident. I'd punch those people's lights out that cheered for that if I could.
awexsome2034 1 month ago 5
@awexsome2034 "It shouldn't be a fucking CHOICE whether you want to risk living or dying in the first place. " Right on.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@awexsome2034 Oh I agree, and this the type of crowd that claim they are followers of Jesus Christ. And have great christian moral values. They are phony lost sheep that are manipulated by the GOP's greed and deception, Of course the real Jesus would not have denied in healing your girlfriend. Christ did say we should take care of the poor and sick. And he not say the GOV could not. We the People are the GOV.
MegaELECTRICEYE 1 month ago
@MegaELECTRICEYE
@awexsome2034 is lying, then you blindly follow him off the cliff. No wonder we're in the mess we're in. That is not what Ron Paul is saying at all. Those people in the crowd were booing the people that don't take care of themselves. Smoking, drinking, eating fast food. Then they get sick without insurance, and the taxpayer pays. They're not booing his girlfriend. She would have gone to the ER. You're never turned away for emergencies. Thats totally different.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce Yes but that is just small tip of the surface.
MegaELECTRICEYE 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce Tell me. What should she do afterwards if she had gone to the ER then end up with a bill that costs more than she makes in months? Are you morally OK with that? Destroying a person's financial well being if they're in a freak accident? Or private companies denying people their insurance because of capitalist ideals to profit off people's misfortune?
awexsome2034 1 month ago
@awexsome2034
Hahaha, you have no idea what your even talking about. Hospitals in America don't let you die if your in an accident. Regardless of whether you have insurance or not, they will provide you care. That is an emergency. The only thing is, you will have a huge bill after, because you didn't bother getting insurance before, get it now? Europe healthcare sucks! So who cares if everyone is covered if it's not even effective? Just eat well and don't drink or smoke.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
Some people work hard, but don't have the money, or access to healthcare. Does that mean they should be left to die? What sick pieces of shit in that audience, I wish the camera zoomed in on the guy that yelled "Yeah!" so we can find out who he is...His life and reputation deserve to be tarnished...
pancakehead911 1 month ago
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@pancakehead911 "Some people work hard, but don't have the money, or access to healthcare. Does that mean they should be left to die? " It's scary that this is even a question in the U. S. today.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
Jesus:
"Do unto others that which you would have others do unto you."
"It is easier for a camel to travel through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter Heaven."
"Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God."
"You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven"
"But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you"
HylianSpirit 1 month ago
I hope America's health plan covers RON PAUL FEVER, 'cause it's catching!!!
FirstfromtheRiver 1 month ago 2
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@FirstfromtheRiver "I hope America's health plan covers RON PAUL FEVER, 'cause it's catching!!!" The first symptom is a blinding, heartless egotism.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012!!!
freakylocz14 1 month ago
Hilarious that the Republican party is seen as the party of Jesus. What would Jesus think of this? Would Jesus like the idea of people profiting off of others sickness? Bunch of hypocrites.
hab99rry 1 month ago
@hab99rry "Hilarious that the Republican party is seen as the party of Jesus." No, only they see themselves that way. They do a lot of Bible-thumping though, if that's what you mean.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
The ONLY reason our uninsured people would die is BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT. They put so much regulation on healthcare that the prices go up and there is no competition. If you want the BEST and CHEAPEST healthcare you need to have people competing in the practice of medicine. I would not let an uninsured person DIE. If prices were more affordable with a free market, I could in fact help A LOT more than I could now.
seantbird09 1 month ago
@seantbird09 oh please enough with the hayek/mises/friedman talking points
jerzy862 1 month ago
@jerzy862 really? and this video was cut off at the end, he was trying to explain why he wouldn't let an uninsured die.
seantbird09 1 month ago
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@seantbird09 "really? and this video was cut off at the end, he was trying to explain why he wouldn't let an uninsured die." No, not really. Actually, I believe his campaign manager died because he couldn't get medical insurance due to a preexisting condition. So much for that...
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@seantbird09 go drink some bleach
electroscandal 1 month ago
@seantbird09 " If prices were more affordable with a free market, I could in fact help A LOT more than I could now." Prices would not, repeat, would not be lower with a "free market." Where did you get this idea?
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012 for Liberty!
It's your personal responsibility to take care of yourself. If you don't get insurance, tough shit.
freakylocz14 1 month ago
@freakylocz14 that's right! obama 2012 ftw!!
electroscandal 1 month ago
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@freakylocz14 "It's your personal responsibility to take care of yourself. If you don't get insurance, tough shit." No, wrong.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
Keep in mind you RonBots that your messiah did not say anything at all to those hillbilly rednecks about letting people die!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
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latinasdoitbetter1 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 Oh yes because the things mentioned are still in practice today right grandma? Now would you kindly point to me which Churches are providing free health care? I will also keep in mind to ask my friend for Thousands of dollars next time I have high Medical Bills! Grandma! .
deeppurple28 1 month ago
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latinasdoitbetter1 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 Like I said granny, point me to those hospitals that provide you with aid. Aid with Medication and medical bills! But let's face facts Granny, if our health care system wasn't as shitty as it i, 700,000 People wouldn't have to file for bankruptcy every year! And wRong Paul isn't going to make things any better either. wRong Paul plans to Privatize everything, thus allowing Private insurance companies to continue to expand their seedy practices, grandma. That's a fact!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 By the way grandma, it doesn't matter how well you take care of yourself, CANCER is an equal Opportunity offender, Stupid over the hill broad!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
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latinasdoitbetter1 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 I think you are the one who is going to be dying soon grandma, those crows feet and varicose veins can attest to that! Now then, what a great nation it must be, a place where they allow people to simply Die for lack of health care! wRong Paul is yet to provide an adequate alternative, thus under wRong Paul's America, children who are born with cancer will have a lower survival rate! Grandma, now go go sign up for AARP Will ya? !
deeppurple28 1 month ago
@deeppurple28 "Wrong Paul" -- I like it.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@deeppurple28 bull shit; losers
infamousdb33 1 month ago
Makes the falsehood of "Obama Death Panels" seem compassionate.
DaCoach68 1 month ago 2
every day usa ppl look like more and more as the german ppl in 1933
goervideos 1 month ago 2
Pon Raul 2021
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promaty 1 month ago
why would this hypothetical man not be uninsured. that is taking your own risks.
RUDY2295 1 month ago
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@RUDY2295 "It was very clear. Wolf Blitzah- "are you saying that society should just let him die?" Crowd- "YEAH" Ron Paul- "No". I don't get how people are putting the audience's words in RP's mouth." The title is "Tea Party Crowd Cheers..." Anyway, Wrong Paul's answer basically amounts to a "yes." "Taking your own risks" basically means, "screw you if you can't afford insurance." Depending on charity is not the kind of system we should have in the richest country in the world.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
Honestly, why would government or anyone help a dumbass who decides not to have healthcare insurance just because "he can"?
It's like someone wanting a Ferrari but not willing to pay a dime for it, expecting the government to pamper him like a spoiled brat.
He made his choice to not be insured. Face the responsibility.
rushersftw 1 month ago
@rushersftw "It's like someone wanting a Ferrari but not willing to pay a dime for it, expecting the government to pamper him like a spoiled brat." Necessary medical care and luxury sport cars are not even remotely comparable. Your argument falls apart quite easily.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
omg when they said "yeah!" WTF PPL AREN'T THE MAYORITY OF U CHRISTIAN??????
hooooookary 2 months ago
@hooooookary Why would any Christian help dumbass who wants to get everything for free (free medical health) without paying a dime just because "he can"?
rushersftw 1 month ago
@rushersftw are christians not familiar with the samaritan story? and also bc a few abuse of the system does not mean you have the right to take away the option from people who really need it. How does it makes sense to take away a right just bc of a few leeches? you don't know the reasons or the situation of every person who gets free healthcare or do you?
hooooookary 1 month ago
@hooooookary are you familiar with the part in the bible where jesus points out that the poor woman who donated a penny to the church gave more so than all of the other people combined since they only gave their spare change whereas she gave all she had?
how many morally righteous liberals would sacrifice their last penny to a stranger?
Subjugator1866 1 month ago
@Subjugator1866 yes let's give it all to the greedy church. flawfree logic.
hooooookary 1 month ago
@hooooookary well we know leftist atheists wont give anything to anyone, however they sure will be liberal with spending other peoples money ¬__¬
Subjugator1866 1 month ago
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hooooookary 1 month ago
@Subjugator1866 yes bc u know every atheist so well. By this logic Pat robertson and phelps = every christian out there.
hooooookary 1 month ago
@Subjugator1866 also idk what atheists have to do in here.
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@Subjugator1866 "well we know leftist atheists wont give anything to anyone, however they sure will be liberal with spending other peoples money" Leftist atheists won't give anything to anyone? What are you talking about?
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
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@Subjugator1866 "how many morally righteous liberals would sacrifice their last penny to a stranger?" We're not talking about last pennies. There's an enormous amount of wealth in the U. S., and an enormous amount of economic and political inequality.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
sweet lawd
hooooookary 2 months ago
what fucking disgusting people, no wonder why the rest of the world hate you
fede018 2 months ago
@fede018 dont believe this media spin. Hospitals here wont refuse to treat you. If you don't have insurance you are just responsible to make payments on your medical bills.
a1rh3add 2 months ago
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@a1rh3add "dont believe this media spin. Hospitals here wont refuse to treat you. If you don't have insurance you are just responsible to make payments on your medical bills." This is not media spin. In many states, hospitals are required by law to treat people below a certain income threshold for free, but if you're over that, you can easily get stuck with a $30K, $40K, $50K bill. People without insurance are regularly charged up to 3x what the insured are. #1 cause of bankruptcy
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
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latinasdoitbetter1 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 i live in america it sucks here
TheBigfanofeminem 1 month ago
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latinasdoitbetter1 1 month ago
@latinasdoitbetter1 im talking about a revolution c how tought fox news is when they got people with ak-47's outside there HQ
TheBigfanofeminem 1 month ago
Wow... way to bend the truth. First off, its a persons choice to get healthcare. Second, due to the oath healthperfesionals take the. MUST treat him. The insurance is to help cover the cost. In some one wants to, they can just get rreated and pay to dollars a month on the bill to show an effort to pay. The hospital can just write off the cost as a cheritable expense. It happens all the time, and yet the individual sstill has to pay. So in essence, the hospital gets paid twice. Nice try mac.
Jaxurcar1 2 months ago
@Jaxurcar1 "Wow... way to bend the truth. First off, its a persons choice to get healthcare. Second, due to the oath healthperfesionals take the. MUST treat him." #1, it's not a choice if you can't afford it, as many can't. #2, doctors regularly refuse to treat patients who can't afford to pay. If you fall behind on payments, you can lose your credit rating completely, even your house.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
old rich white guys
gentrelane 2 months ago
freedom to take risk? shit. what a privileged and sheltered point of view. The point of having a freedom also means having a government to assist you when you need the most especially given the example from the host. Ron Paul, as much as you want to paint socialism or whatever is bad, your assessment is as radical as it gets. Crazy guy!
cepacol06 2 months ago
@cepacol06 he also said that hospitals dont refuse to treat patients without insurance.
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@a1rh3add "he also said that hospitals dont refuse to treat patients without insurance." That's not always true.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@cepacol06
The example guy has a "good job", make a "good living" but he chooses not to have health insurance? Well, that's too bad that's his decision. Don't expect others to become his savior. Every choice comes with consequences. Deal with it like a man (or woman).
Wanna skip studying for final exam? Go ahead but don't get mad if you get C-
Wanna smoke cigarette? Go ahead but don't be surprised if you get lung cancer
Wanna eat lots of food? Go ahead but don't be sad when you get fat.
rushersftw 1 month ago
This is very overblown. It was like, 4 people saying "Yeah".
ledawg1138 2 months ago
If the healthy 30 yr old man makes good money the dumbass should have health insurance...
jaronlstewart 2 months ago
It was very clear. Wolf Blitzah- "are you saying that society should just let him die?" Crowd- "YEAH" Ron Paul- "No". I don't get how people are putting the audience's words in RP's mouth.
taylorade08 2 months ago
One of the few things I don't agree with Ron Paul about
CaptainRidley 2 months ago
@CaptainRidley If I make the choice not to pay $320 a year for my auto insurance and then get into a car accident it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to pay for it... OR, should the Government pay for that as well ?? if so, then I will safe more money on my car insurance by dumping Geico.
thabilldozer64 2 months ago
@thabilldozer64 I understand the point you are trying to make but I feel that healthcare is a human right because healthcare=living. It's a complicated issue and with 300 million people here there is no simple solution. I wish we could be a little more humane about it. I love Ron Paul and agree with him on 90% of what he says but expecting the churches to take care of everyone who doesn't have HI is a little unrealistic.
CaptainRidley 2 months ago
@CaptainRidley A friend of mine posted this same video to my Facebook page... my point to him (and everyone watching it) is that Ron Paul clearly gives his answer as "No" meaning that he does not think that this fictitious person should just be left to die. People in the audience were not cheering the indiscriminate killing of people, but rather the freedom that WE all have to choose for ourselves what we do with OUR lives.
thabilldozer64 2 months ago
@thabilldozer64 "WE all have to choose for ourselves what we do with OUR lives." That sounds really nice, but it completely ignores the fact of serious economic inequality. We do not have equal options.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago 9
@evanlongaccount
Is this the only video on the subject you've seen? When government got involved, it drove up cost with all their regulations and red tape. Under Ron Paul, he would take government out of healthcare. Before then, it was way more affordable to go see a doctor. So he is not implying that people will go without. In fact more people go without insurance now, then back then. So nobody is ignoring anything. You may be lacking a deeper understanding of the facts.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce "You may be lacking a deeper understanding of the facts." That's just it, though; if these "facts" are so easy to grasp, why has no one clearly demonstrated them? Show me how medical care was more affordable before Medicare and Medicaid, and how the average member of the proletariat had access to care.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@evanlongaccount
Just look at how when Ron Paul says it was better, and more affordable, and easier to access. No one argues with him. Ron Paul is an MD after all, and he was around. People just have very short memories, and don't read enough. Having said that, I will say to do your own research, don't rely on what I am saying. I have done the research. I also use to work in home healthcare. Trust me, there are many stories about the inefficiency of government run medical care.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce No, I'm asking you to show me the facts. I don't believe Wrong Paul; I think he's lying to influence people toward his reactionary political agenda, and I don't believe you; I think you're rather foolishly believing him. I want facts about the costs of medical care over the 20th century. You've just admitted you don't have factual support for your argument. And no kidding a room full of Republicans aren't going to disagree with him advancing this agenda.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@evanlongaccount
Yes, please do your own research. There aren't enough characters allowed to give you all the facts here. Google "Government run health care pros and cons" and make an educated decision. Did you know in some countries with government run healthcare, you may wait months for a simple MRI? You are ignorant beyond belief. So you think Ron Paul is a liar? How dumb do you have to be, to deny that he predicted events? Show me even a sliver of proof he lies, please.
BLawr3nce 1 month ago
@BLawr3nce I have done "my own research," and it directly contradicts what you and Wrong Paul are saying here. If you want to convince me of your point of view, you've got a lot of work to do.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
@evanlongaccount
No shit Sherlock, how is that Ron Paul's fault? The SAME failed policies are STILL at work? Btw, his other ideas take care of the equality part. Ever hear about him wanting to cut trillions of dollars from wasteful overseas spending? Where do you think that money will go genius? In our pocket! Making us economically equal...god please read more. I am getting so tired of the ignorance. If you don't understand what he is saying, just admit it and talk to someone that does.
BLawr3nce 3 weeks ago
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@BLawr3nce "Ever hear about him wanting to cut trillions of dollars from wasteful overseas spending? Where do you think that money will go genius? In our pocket! Making us economically equal...god please read more." I'm reading away and coming up with very different conclusions. The money from military cuts will NOT end up in "our" pockets, "genius"; Wrong Paul does not believe in social services and will cut these programs too. The money from cuts will stay with the capitalists.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@evanlongaccount survival of the fittest
Nered88 3 weeks ago
@Nered88 Yes, "survival of the fittest" is a concept associated with Social Darwinism, which in turn was associated with fascism and eugenics. Translation: might makes right, and look out if you're not a billionaire, because anything goes. This is not a philosophy which is in the class interest of the 99%.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@evanlongaccount You don't have to be a billionaire. There just needs to be a demand for you on the market. In other words, become something that is needed. And social Darwinism is quite a dandy concept in my eyes.. even if it was associated with fascism and eugenics, it does not mean its a negative thing.
Nered88 3 weeks ago
@Nered88 "even if it was associated with fascism and eugenics, it does not mean its a negative thing." How about, it was central to fascism and eugenics? History is the tale of the strong trying to take advantage of the weak, and here you are, cheering them on. That is sick, and it amounts to class suicide.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@Nered88 "There just needs to be a demand for you on the market. In other words, become something that is needed." What is sold on "the market" under capitalism, especially a laissez-faire/Social Darwinist model, does not necessarily relate to its actual usefulness, but rather to its exchangeability. Sometimes, the two overlap, but "the market" is a very inefficient system for routing needed goods to people. The robbing of workers of our ability to create what is needed is exploitation.
evanlongaccount 3 weeks ago
@Nered88 you speak of class warfare, the inefficiency of the market, and the 99%... I see where this is going...
Nered88 3 weeks ago
seriously, people cheered for that??? this just proves that were more like the nazis that we think. "let them die". fk ron paul.
ZetaPrime9699 2 months ago
@ZetaPrime9699 They were not cheering to put the person in the scenario to death... they were cheering for FREEDOM OF CHOICE... try watching it again.
thabilldozer64 2 months ago
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@thabilldozer64 "They were not cheering to put the person in the scenario to death... they were cheering for FREEDOM OF CHOICE... try watching it again." They were cheering to let the person die. That's "freedom of choice," and it should be cheered?" That's sick, is what it is.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago
Amurricah.
keslehrongo 2 months ago
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@keslehrongo They were not cheering to put the person in the scenario to death... they were cheering for FREEDOM OF CHOICE... try watching it again.
thabilldozer64 2 months ago
did people really just cheer for that? Wow... I'm sorry but this is the kind of thing that creates a stereotype that Americans are selfish and uncaring for others. I KNOW not everyone is, but wow, be careful who you vote to represent you America.
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RapsAlive 2 months ago
Damn I hate this man so much
claton95 2 months ago 2
@claton95 Why ?? what I have seen over the past year is people putting words into Ron Paul's mouth that never belonged there in the first place. In this video Ron Paul answered the question with a "No"... it was someone in the audience that shouted "Yeah". maybe you should watch it again.
thabilldozer64 2 months ago
@thabilldozer64 "Why ?? what I have seen over the past year is people putting words into Ron Paul's mouth that never belonged there in the first place." Actually, it was Wrong Paul who put words that shouldn't have been there in his own mouth. In the richest country in the world, we shouldn't have the kind of inequality we do, and we shouldn't be leaving medical care for tens of millions of people up to charity due to the adversity of the rich.
evanlongaccount 1 month ago