2010 - Peter Hyams - Aerobraking Scene

[3forte]

Aerobraking looks kind of extreme. Maybe we should include it for the Summer X-Games.

[smittyshawn]

Chekov from Star Trek: Look at that Wessel go

[dtvjho]

The aerobraking manoever at Jupiter was also shown in the TV movie Space Odyssey: Voyage to the Planets (BBC special). Youtube vid can be seen at youtube URL watch?v=KIL7vUv18yA

[TheTrancer85]

i like it more than 2001..... but both are great movies

[steveb0503]

3:47 to 3:50 are probably the coolest three seconds EVER in film.

[phuturephunk]

Friction + Hydrogen = WHOOSH!

[Binky40SW]

@phuturephunk Not without the proper proportions of oxygen.

[bigdan7489]

Can anyone tell me what the name of that girl that is accompanying the doctor? She's f'n hott!!!

[TheREALSisko]

@bigdan7489 I have always wondered myself. Her name was Natasha Shneider. Turns out she played keyboard in Queens of the Stone Age. She died in 2008 from Cancer. RIP. Stunning looking women. Amazing what you learn online. :(

[clonmultcity]

If Jupiter could tear apart the Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet into pieces in 1994 then I don't see how the spacecraft could survive passing Jupiter as close as they did

[logandarklighter]

@clonmultcity The spacecraft would not be torn apart because of the angle of entry into the atmosphere. Shoemaker-Levy 9 simply plunged straight in. The Leonov is "skipping" at an oblique angle. Think of it like skipping a stone on the surface of a lake, as oppposed to letting it drop straight down into the water.

[ishouldplayzelda]

my underwear would've been so brown if i was there

[WC3POchannel10A]

"The Leonov," one of my favorite SF spacecraft. Dree, dava, adeem!

[brett201777]

You can have a flame without oxygen; vis underwater welding, fusion, etc.

The 2 movies were as different as 2 movies could be. A friend hates 2001 because of the long bits of silence; and 2010 because about a third is in Russian. To me, you don't miss a thing by not understanding most of Helen Mirrens lines (who incidentally also spoke English - she reminds the Americans she is still a pilot in the Russian Air Force).

Remember, 2001 - the book, was a mission to Saturn, not Jupiter.

[DarthHater100]

I thought 2010 was so much better than 2001. Am I the only on who can see the emperor is naked?!

[steveb0503]

@DarthHater100 Not at all -

2001 book > movie

2010 movie > book (except Europa encounter)

2010 movie > 2001 movie

[899289]

No oxygenin space to cause the fireball like that. At least the Russian girl is cute.

[poisonhemlock]

@899289 They're not in space when the fireball occurs, they're in Jupiter's upper atmosphere. That's the entire premise of the clip. You must have skipped the first thirty seconds.

[Chuckjagermeister]

@899289 They are in the (thin upper) gaseous atmosphere of Jupiter causing them to violently slow down. Think of it as the g-forces you feel when you slam on the brakes in your car. Now put that in slow motion.

[TheChapaqua]

never found the film boring at all. it explains enough, yet still leaves sufficient enough unexplained. Now, when will Spielber gdirect the next novel in the series? I wouldn't trust Cameron with it, especially after 'Avatar'.

[gyrovague]

love to have a schmoke in that control room/cockpit .. pretty colour lights and i can deploy airbags!

[soberek]

Here we are, 2010 as we speak. We haven't even returned to the Moon, not to mention setting up a base there or even starting work on an expedition to mars. The whole world would participate in that miracle, but nooooooo. Warrack O'bummer stops it dead at start of project Constellation. Mars has 24h day, 38% Earth's gravity, and an atmosphere of mostly CO2. Of course it will take hundreds or thousand of years to adapt this planet for our colonization, but WTF are we going to start???

[poisonhemlock]

@soberek And where are our flying cars already?! I'm spending hours of my life sitting in traffic that shouldn't exist anymore! Scientists need to work harder at keeping up with the half-baked whimsy of popular fiction! 

[brewskhee]

Ugh! They added sound in space!

[ancalites]

Well, it's 2010 now. Hope we "make contact" this year.

[ighforever]

it was Aliens!!

[hardrockinsteve123]

going Aerobraking looks like fun !!!

[ausseratem]

One of these essential must read books ...:

t i n y u r l (dot) com/essentialbooks

Forewarned, forearmed.

[myironlungca]

They dont make real sci fi movies anymore.

[europamoon100]

"aerobraking" is spelled just like this: "aerobraking", just as in "aerodynamics", "aerospace", and  "aeronautical" !! Get with it and fox it!

[manicminer2010]

my apologies for adding a space! I will correct it :-)

[TheREALSisko]

@europamoon100 fox it? :O

[willyjoel]

Have you noticed how the production design, set design and cinematography in this film is heavely influenced by Ridley Scott's Alien? You can easily combined both of the films and you wouldn't notice it.

[Roboboy]

Just noticed that today, upon re-watching the entire movie, myself. Alien, which had debuted 5 years before 2010, re-defined futuristic space ship sets and set the tone design of those sets for years after. It's really sad, too, because there was something elegant and simple, yet sophisticated and futuristic about the set designs for 2001.

[Doctadeth]

All the films are SCIENCE FICTION, and badly dated at that.

[jmm1233]

pink floyd track to go with this scene is One Of These Days ,

[G4MOF]

Roy Scheider was so well casted for this film thanks for the post!

[EMG33]

just bought 2001 ASO. a haven't watched it since i was very young. such an outstanding movie - the imagery, music, acting are all top notch. don't think i've ever seen this flick - there's another one to pick up!

[Roboboy]

It's not a fantastic movie and you can definitely notice the difference in cinematographic technique between the two films. 2010 was very much a contemporary movie with significant political and cultural undertones. The contrast between the movie that preceded it by nearly 15 years is stark and leaves this movie feeling...awkward, inelegant, and not nearly as unique or groundbreaking.

[DarthFastidious]

True... But I feel like trying to replicate Kubrick would've only ended in disaster. Besides, the books themselves feel very different, with 2001 being philosophical and metaphorical, and 2010 being political and almost religious. The movie nailed the book's feel. And it's one of a very, VERY small group of hard sci-fi movies out there, and it's entertaining and well-acted to boot, so cheers all around.

[cubdukat]

@DarthFastidious I actually liked "2010" a lot more than the first one. I'm of the somewhat heretical belief that Stanley Kubrick was grossly overrated as a director and that any brilliance he had was a fluke. "2001" could have been pared down to two hours and been just as insightful. The basic story was "Computer goes berserk and kills crew members." Still, it was one of the first Blu-Rays I picked up. It may be boring and obtuse, but it sure as hell looked good.

[DarthFastidious]

@cubdukat

I remember a cartoon that was titled "2001 for Stupid People." A bunch of people in a movie theater, and on the screen was an ape, with an arrow pointing to a man, with an arrow pointing to the Star Child. And underneath it, "IT'S EVOLUTION, GET IT?" It really isn't all that deep when you cut through all the awe and splendor. An alien intelligence forces evolution for mysterious ends. The end.

I always liked 2010 better, as well.

[canova1832]

Natasha Schneider sure was a beautiful lady! I would have asked them to aerobrake a few more times, just to cuddle with her. Maybe even have the captain call in a "We're-all-gonna-die, have-sex-with-the-closest-pers­on"-call.

[Doctadeth]

Zenia was terrified and needed someone other than her countryman to be with

[imjunipernow]

Helen Mirren's Russian is so excellent!

[AndiJF]

The fact that she was born Ilyena Vasilievna Mironov might have something to do with that...

[DakotaHarris84]

A shame they don't make such movies no more.

Pure viewing pleasure.

[scrambuild]

RIP Peter Hyams(film career at least)

a Sound of Thunder was mindblowing..ha

[justinaurelius]

Don't forget "Stay Tuned" with John Ritter.

[rixille]

If it would, prove so otherwise.

[rixille]

This is silly, a bunch of ballons wouldn't stop the ship...

[monkpkey]

lol the balloons arent there to slow the ship down lol .....

[tragiccarpet]

You might like to check out the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which used aerobraking to enter Mars orbit.

[TURBODORK2]

the book is surreal , when discovery is hit by radiation and destroyed the ghost of hal and bowman whatch it fall to pieces, trippy.

[dominokat07]

Turbodork2, Oh I wish they had included that scene in the film! :/

[TURBODORK2]

that would been cool, shame about discovery

[AlexF1508]

I like the special effects!! A lot more realistic than the ones used in StarWars for example!! And there is no sound in space, only when the ship hits the atmosphere!!

[HipHopJun]

talk about havin ur balls in your throat!

[hairhorn]

most pointless sequel ever. Nice scene though.

[CMONTHETON]

RIP Roy Scheider.

[porsche911sbs]

RIP Natasha Shneider

[teaflax]

Well, Natascha Schneider, but yes. One of the saddest losses of 2008.

[bournedevinesupreme]

Definitely. Here are some other notable deaths in 2008:

Arthur C. Clack (author of 2010), Roy Scheider (starred in 2010), Michael Crichton, Charlton Heston, Paul Newman, Stan Winston (amazing special effects master), and John Phillip Law.

Truly a sad year. They will forever be missed, always be remembered and never replaced. RIP

[cubdukat]

Stan Winston worked on 2010? I did not know that.

[soberek]

@CMONTHETON RIP Roy Scheider and Natasha Shneider.

[takezo1977]

what for a ride :)

[cubdukat]

Warner Bros. needs to get off their ass and give us a definitive copy of this movie, preferrably on Blu-Ray! This movie has never had a decent film version in the US.

The best copy I've seen of it was the Japanese collector's edition Laserdisc I used to own.

[yellowwing]

Dang, Roy Schieder had a chance to join the Billion Mile High Club!

[dominokat07]

I always figured, if this sequel had been made today, this scene would have Lloyd's character having some hot steamy panic-sex with that russian chick. ^.^

[Aegrim]

actually she's dead so :(

google Natasha Shneider.

[stopfederalism08]

lol that would be awesome and a shame at the same time

[bstep13]

it looks like helen mirren is having an orgasm in this scene.

[joshscott911]

somethings supposed to happen in the last scene. what happens

[RustiSwordz]

Di anyone notice in this film the Co-Pilot of the leanov is the spitting image of Roy Schider.

I always thought they were related.

[bstep13]

RIP Roy Scheider.

[mohanicus]

this was better than the 1st movie.

even tho the 1st was very gud.

though this was on the money moviewise.

[barnard1960]

I haven't seen this film for a while. Though it still seems rather concrete compared to Kubrick, for a major American movie during the Cold War to set a film on a SOVIET spacecraft took uncommon guts. Respect, Peter Hyams.

[throttlelever]

Sure, in a sci-fi movie the timeline is shorter, like in any other movie, otherwise every scene would last hours.

But anyway, I love Space Odyssey, and I watch 2001 and 2010 every month!

[SynaMax]

This is my favorite part of the movie. You get a true sense of fear and worry if the characters are going to make it or not. Thanks for posting! :-D

[InfoSasha]

Thank god they made it, i watched it before, but

now i thought they wouldn't, you scared me!

[paacki]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, communicators wee impossible, flight was impossible, but guys only you are impossible.

[drummerboi8]

The PlanetX theory to me is mainly most liklely not to happen in my opinion but hey.. one has to keep an open mind..

[madamecarroll]

I still say they would be dead.You cannot speak for this because it's not a reality. Dream and wish all you want.

[LordBicen]

you have a point, considering what happened to Shumacker-Levy 9. Jupiter would be dangerous to pull a stunt like this due to the increased gravity and tidal forces. think they were talking about skipping off jupiters atmosphere to slow down. Bad Idea. Now a slingshot for a return trajectory, no problem.

[Andy120290Returns]

Technically speaking, that maneuver would be called aerocapture.

[pedroetcr]

so, for 2010 we should be reaching jupiter...

[LordBicen]

um yeah considering we should have had a base on the moon in the 80's, on to mars in the 90's and yeah out to jupiter by 2000's but government cutbacks and 2 shuttle disasters have cut the space program off at the knees due to nasa's missmanagement and corner-cutting. Speaking of the movie, Love that little hot Russian chick hangin with Roy in the Braking maneuver.

[pedroetcr]

Question: base on the moon in the 80s, mars, 90s, jupiter, 2000s... etc. You mean, in fiction or in real life? I mean, what you are talking about are real plans that Nasa, or any other space agencie had, or fiction you read in books and-or saw in movies?

Just a question, good comment, thought!!!

[LordBicen]

That was the original prognosis, and what they based the 2001 movie on. This was the assessment made when they made the 2001 book and movie. And that assessment was not wrong, but nasa didn't do enough to keep the public interested and so funding was cut, and the bigger projects and stuff had to take a back seat. the nasa budget should be as much if not more than we spend on national security. if it was we would already be there.

[El135o]

It was Richard M. Nixon who killed it. Actually, he wasn't even going to permit the development of the Shuttle or even fund the Voyager probes!

Anyway, a manned mission to Jupiter would be problematic. The radiation in the vicinity of Io is lethal.

[tfcdomprice]

During their space walk in the film when they get to Io to board discovery they're only allowed to stay outside for 15 minutes because of the radiation. They do make some mention of it.

[fox2mike28]

Zenia is her name and she is one of the medical officers. In the book, they actually share a suspended sleeping cocoon during the maneuver, and in the whole "we might both die a firey death at any second" heat of the moment, Arthur C. Clarke describes how Floyd definitely feels the sexual tension.

[LordBicen]

Meow!

[fox2mike28]

They don't do it in the book, unfortunately; Floyd being married and all. Still, If I were in his place I would have said das vdanya (sic) to all Earthly worries and cares and found out if what Paul McCartney sang about Ukraine and Moscow girls was true or not.

In the book Zenia actually hooks up with Max (who does not die at the Monolith as in the movie), and they get married.

[LordBicen]

yeah they had to change a few things to make the movie more dramatic and mysterious.

[Rabastan]

Have you notice that in this sequence the fire goes down? Yes, yes, Jupiter´s gravity. But it´s an error ^^. Wonderful movie though

[spencnaz]

Did you ever consider the aerodynamic affects of the 'ballute'? Perhaps there was a stronger low pressure area on that hemisphere of the ballute array?

Simple math people.

[Rabastan]

Ehhhhh, I don´t think so. It´s more likely a mistake.

[jucamo007]

wow

[bookstar77]

Glory to God in the highest! That was incredible!

[madamecarroll]

In reality, all of these people would have died had their ship really been on fire like that ala Space shuttle a few years ago which burnt up on re-entry.

[spencnaz]

You have no concept of ablative shielding and thermodynamics.

[El135o]

We DO need a concept of Jupiter's powerful radiation field and gravity. The planet is 318 times as massive and 1,000 times the size of Earth.

'Aerobraking' around Jupiter would take HOURS.

[Robfoxman]

that would be a boring moment in thismovie ;)

[thirdclass2006]

One could say this forshadows the Galileo atmospheric probe's arrival in December 1995 (11 years after this movie came out!). Of course, THAT mission was a one-way ticket into Jupiter itself.

[peterparker12]

I love both movies, but neither makes any sense to me. I do think the special effects helped inspire Star Trek the Motion Picture.

[sausageslaps]

yes they should have kept with tradition concerning the sound, there is no sound in space. but this is a movie, and futhermore a movie not directed by stanley kubrick.

[cubdukat]

Well, there's also a practical reason why they used sound--Dolby Stereo optical may have lower noise, but it's not completely silent :) They had to do something to justify such elaborate sound design.

[giblo]

haha :)

[quietearthMT]

great movie but.... why is the computer voice on a Russian spacecraft speaking in English?

[DavidChipman]

One thing you might wqant to consider, as an explanation is that the voice doing the count-down to the error-braking maneuver is actually the male crew-member on the bridge, not the ship's computer. We never hear the Leonov's computer speak, ever.

[quietearthMT]

Ok I can buy that... but then why is the Russian guy speaking English when only one person on board speaks it as a first language? The girl that comes in with Schnider doesn't speak any at all!

[DavidChipman]

Dr. Floyd wasn't the only English speaker in the crew. His two fellow American crew members were Dr. Chandra (played by Bob Balaban)and Dr. Walter Curnow (played by John Lithgow). Granted, those two are still in hibernation at this point in the movie, but the public announcements may have been in English for that reason. Also, this a Hollywood movie we're talking about.... ;). Have you seen the whole movie ever?

[Binky40SW]

@DavidChipman The announcements may have been an intercom announcement for Dr Floyd's benefit, so he knew what to expect and when to hold on.

[intigfx]

the sound of the space ship fireballing through space is both unnecessary and scientifically inaccurate.

[kashpd]

c'mon, we're talking about a movie where jupiter becomes a star thanx to million of giant space monolits :-)

[intigfx]

well, the previous movie with space monoliths had no sound in space :)

[maltwo]

they were flying through atmosphere hence the fire and the sound.

no excuse for the other sounds though.

[Barricade]

Actually yes, there is swirls of dust when something lands on the moon. Its from the thrust from the engines when it hits the dust - it doesn't spray out evenly due to an irregular surface which causes the swirls. It doesn't NEED air to do that.

[thirdclass2006]

No, it doesn't swirl. It simply sprays out. You can see this in the landing footage of Apollo 11.

[rogerpenna]

no, 2001 did not looked more real then the real footage.

For example, when the ship land on the moon, there are swirls of dust. Obviously, there is no air on the moon, so there are no swirls of dust. Dust on the moon fly on perfect ballistic trajectories, just as it happens on the real moon landings videos :)

I love 2001 btw. I cry everytime I see it.

[ahole6]

I cry too, My mom is a perfect artist and is making some paintings of my choise clips from the movie.

Such as the ending of 2010 the monolith on europa.

The Moon base view of the monolith in the dug out.

If you interested let me know, I have the pics saved in email for her to paint. I can send you them or one of your own choices. Let me know. It is good having human relationships on Youtube. Hal voice....

We will have to subscribe to each other and we can privately email.

[manicminer2010]

This film seemed to show the boundaries of our technologies really well making it a believable experience. 2001 was the same. Still cant believe the 2001 movie was made a year before man landed on the moon! 2001 looked more believable than the moon landing footage :-)

[thirdclass2006]

I wouldn't call it more "believable".

More beautiful is more how I'd describe it, thanks to film processing.

[MountainDeW06]

I want to see this movie.

[trueedge2097]

CAPTAIN BRIDGER!!! OMG!

[selby06]

Roy Scheider is like: "Was it good for you, too?"

[spectre111]

You know that ship looks alot like an earth destroyer from Babylon 5?

[locutus12]

yup, ive never had any doubt that the Earth Force Destroyers were modelled on that ship. Earth Force Destroyers look meaner though :p

[Barricade]

JMS outright admitted at the end of Babylon 5 that the Omega class Destroyer was a tribute to the Leonov design.

[smillar98]

Foil bags are a wonderful braking device. So simple. They are reflective and insulatory.