This is good. However, with all we have been through with the Dems and Obama recently, I would resign from the Democratic Party and become an independent. He has enough support nationally now to accomplish this. Form an independent party with Paul, Gravel, Nader, and Kuchinich. Its time to quit fooling around with the Duopoly and get serious about government.
Grayson is a dumbass, STFU you dumb cunt. Anybody that opposed the war can not only get out of our government but get out of this country. Or did you not forget that this country was founded through the blood of patriots?!
ahh the Nederlands... your people have created so much inventions that have made the world better.. like Chocolate.. you'd still be shitting in a hole in the ground by candlelight and speaking German if it were not for us. I suggesst you shut the fuck up now before we breing up the rest of the things about how your country was supposed to throw up the white flag if attacke by East Germans. I was in those briefings.
Besides being ignorant you're also an idiot. You state that your country has a longer and deeper history then mine and that we are famous for...chocolate? I'm not a nationalist like you so I don't really care what you think about my country. I just wanted to point out that your statements are really what makes people think all Americans are stupid.I'd even say that you are hurting and annoying your fellow countrymen more then you do me. So carry on being a showcase of US stupidity while I lmao.
tampabayproductions, that only a complete moron would misspell the name of his enemy namely "Al Queida". How are you gonna defeat them if you can't even spell their name, you're totally incapable mate.
Sad to say, as an American, I find that there is a horrifying amount of us who are indeed DANGEROUSLY STUPID. Its easy to tell who they are, they are the ones ranting calling others foul names instead of looking out for their OWN best interests, willing to send their children to die fighting wars pumped up with false idealism. Scream, rant, and rave AGAINST a fair and honest health care system while their neighbors lose their homes to med bills. They forgot we are the UNITED States of America.
I wonder what you would think about your own comments if you were a woman or child in Afghanistan. You are a sheep who obviously has never risked anything for anyone but himself. To me as a veteran, you represent the worst this country has to offer. A typical "selfish American". If you think it's "dangerously stupid" to defend other peoples' safety and liberty around the world then you have missed the point of this nation's existence and the reason America is loved worldwide entirely.
PoliticallyRight, you are missing the point entirely and havent the slightest clue who I am. I think you need to end your addiction to FOX news(?) and listen and watch some actual journalism and news. Maybe even take in some Rethink Afghanistan and LISTEN TO THEM! For every inocent woman and child killed by US bombs in Afganistan and Iraq, its evident, COUNTLESS TERRORISTS are created seeking revenge. Same as you would do if the tides were turned on the US if they killed YOUR loved ones.
Well said. An estimated 1,000,000 Iraqis were killed by Americans. How many terrorists were created? How many terrorists will be created by the killing in Afghanistan? PR is very naive when it comes to cost versus reward in this war. The amount of money used for this little adventure could have funded Manhattan type programs in this country that could have made us totally independent from the oil we now seek to control. He fails to realize that Bush/Cheyney oil profiteers is the real problem!!!1
You guys are just WRONG. Even this new idealistic liberal President knows you're wrong and he's not struggling not to piss you off as he does the right thing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Larry you're a wacko going on about Jew this Jew that. Steev, you're just weak willed, unwilling to accept what must be done, and looking for an excuse to make yourself feel better about it. Fortunately for you both we have warriors in the world that are willing to step up and fight real evil in this world. Wake up.
Your a tool. I guess you don't know we financed Hitler. Prescott Bush was a Nazi banker who had is bank taken for trading with the enemy. His $125 investment became 1.5 million as they helped the Nazis smuggle their pillaged profits out of Europe. Your comments mean nothing when they are all based on ignorance with no connection to reality. Go to a library you tool if you know how to read. It's all there in these things called books. Until then STFU keep depending on Fox to blame your ignorance!
You shouldn't get so mad about the ignorance of the people in this country, it will get you nowhere. It's true what you say it's just how you're going about it that won't get you anywhere. Do you realize that if you were to ask the magic question about George Bush's grandfather Prescott probably One in a 1000 would have the answer you pursue. You have a good mind and the people of this country are basically good in heart but not to smart. We need more folks like you spreading the word. Continue.
careful.. there is a new report out today that the White House is monitoring FACEBOOK, Twitter and IP addresses of those who oppose this government. Hmmm... they really hated it when Bush did this? Where are they now? Is it OK now?
The thing is Grayson... Take the handcuffs off of our boys over there, stop prosecuting them when they come home for doing their jog that YOU asked that your country asked them to do OR Bring them home. Kill Al Queida and find Bin Laden and get the hell out. I agree with you in that respect but take off the gloves.
yea let's rethink afghanistan. let's re-think those people jumping off the world trade center as their clothes caught on fire. that's what i'm thinking about and won't think of anything else until every al-qaeda and the taliban who sheltered them is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD if it takes a thousand years.
I pretty sure your materialism driven country will have collapsed way before that. And getting 911 in is just lame and weak. Get over it already ya little bitch.
hmmm.. can you name a better system? France has had 3 Constitutions since we have had only one. Our Written Constitution is the Oldest in the World. Tell me a better system.
Pssst, the USA is only a couple of hundred years old, and in case you haven't noticed, our system is failing us.. Hee, hee, Ive got it! tampabayproductions is a really bad night club comedian. Thats the only explanation I can think of for being dead wrong on EVERYTHING! :O)
Why are we in Afghanistan ? How many Afghanis or Iraqis were among the terrorists that attacked us? ZERO!!! 16 of them were Saudis. So why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia. OIL!!! The attack was planned in Sudan, Germany, and the US. I don't see us attacking Sudan or Germany.
@Hawkeye816 uh, dude, all the 'hijackers' from 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia...Osama is on CIA payroll and the bin Ladens are business partners of the Bush/ Cheney crime family...you might want to do a little more research before making asinine comments like that...if you don't understand what REALLY happened by now, it's not too late to learn!
Alan speaks the truth about the war. The USA has become the piggy bank for defending the world. A piggy bank is finite and has to be just about empty. We're spending our way out of existence. WTFWWT????????????
King Obama the affirmative action President should be impeached. Obamabush has just started the SURGE again. WAMM, Code Pink, etc. hate Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obambi, impeach him now.
Killing equals peace and love? Obama's writers need a new strategy. I guess since Obamas puppet master kissinger got the Nobel while killing the people of cambodia they figure death is a good strategy or awards
This is good. We have one POS attacking another POS. All this shit hitting fan can only be good for America. We need some good news for a change. This is the best.
Obama has been shown to be weak. Has not lived up to his promise to the gay community. Failed on universal health care. Warmongerins in Afghanistan. WTF. I though he was going to transform America. He said he was. Impeach this jying cheat.
We have had leadership that was better than Obama. Most all our presidents were better than Obama. He is a mistake. Decent and honest presidents aren't necessarily what we need. We had one, Eisenhower. He was sort of weak himself. There are decent and honest Americans although the number is decreasing. It is not the president who drives the culture, it is the people. That is true even in the Netherlands.
@NotEasilyRegimented How was Eisenhower weak ? He lead the greatest invasion in military history and helped defeat the Nazis.And when he was president he helped create millions of jobs and improved the infrastructure of the U.S. more then any president.The 1950's are considered by many to be one of the greatest era's of American history.
I was just reading about the Netherlands. History is very spotty there. Very young country in the its' current manifestation. Ex colonial country. War torn and corrupt. Over the years there have been many tyrants running the Netherlands. France. Germany. England. No real history there to compare with America.
Yes it is. You don't even understand how your own political system works, how sad though symbolic. Google "representative democracy" and learn. In the United States, Founding Fathers like James Madison defined republic in terms of representative democracy as opposed to only having direct democracy, and this usage is still employed by many viewing themselves as "republicans".
Yea, but if 19 of them can thwart a multi-billion dollar air defense system using $10 worth of box-cutters, just think how hard it will be to kill one hundred of them armed with thirty year old A-K 47s!
@NotEasilyRegimented thats a bad policy. People were fan of obama because he was not a fan of bush. Lets just keep goin round in circles instead of fixing the problem
I like how he is on par with Ron Paul on some issues. But then he turns around and is for socialized medicine. That to me is schizo - you want to save money then burn it somewhere else -weird.
nah the cbo estimated it would cut the deficit so it wouldnt be "burning it somewhere else".Grayson just speaks for his constituency so that is why you might call him schizo. Paul and Grayson represent different districts.
I know Barack doesn't wanna pull troops from Iraq & Afgan caz if he does & there's an uptick in violence he'll be blamed. So he makes an "effort" & if little progress he'll likely pull in 2nd term, if he has 1
But Iraq & Afgan will be hell-holes in 10 yrs whether we stay or go. The 1 thing that might bring a measure of peace to either country is if they get a strong dictator like Saddam who'll quickly put-down any uprisings
Ron Paul & Grayson are right.We only create more terrorists by staying
@golcynski You say Barack is a slave to Israel and i would argue the whole political system in this country is a slave with very few exceptions. AIPAC exerts so much political control over the US that our politicians actions in favor of Israels issues and against are treasonous. The people we elect refuse to represent us. There are many reasons for this but the biggest is lobbying money. If we want any influence as voters we need to eliminate the current lobbying immediately. AIPAC RacistZionist
What a treasonous statement! There would have been no chance for Obama had we not allowed the Bush Admin to seize the White House like a violent corporate takeover. Ive never been a big Obama fan, he had stated his Afghan intentions in his campaign, but I hate the fact the US is involved in Afghanistan and Iraq. I also think people should stop blaming Obama for Bush and Cheneys war crimes and do a SERIOUS and HONEST investigation of the 911 attacks that adhere to the laws of physics.
The right wing war pigs and American Military Industrial Complex has little tolerance for strong leaders like Saddam who seemed to keep Iraq a bit too peaceful and prosperous for a bit too long.. Bush fixed that, now the military can go to Afghanistan to look for mutant bin Ladin clones(?) and let Exxon/Mobil go about their business in Iraq. Yes, Grayson and Paul are right. Breed enough terrorists and war can go on indefinitely until nobody seems to remember what we are fighting for.
chahaha you are sick... google the mass graves from Iraq they found today. Useful Idiot. Why are you still balming Bush? Now it's Obama and GE (The largest Corporation in the World) and SEIU and ACORN. Stop Blame shifting, it's your Messiah's wars (just sent ,30000 more troop) committed another TRILLION to Climate Change hoax when we are Broke. Bush was bad on spending and you Bitched about it but he's Bush on Steroids and Hates America too. Screw you and Screw Progressive messiah Sheep.
That's just complete bullcrap Dillon. The only way we will "create more terrorists" is if we leave. The only thing these people understand is strength. We need to show that strength and then continue to back it with providing hope to the youth of the Middle East. Hope that they can have a life free of the tyranny Arabs have lived under for generations.
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These people are absolute scum, including Rep. Grayson. What kind of frigging MORON doesn't see that our activity in Afghanistan makes us safer at home?
This isn't about a win or a loss. It's about defending basic human dignity and rights - and to me that's a very American sentiment and worth fighting for. These selfish people in this video are just disgusting. The Afghan people need our help to keep Afghanistan from turning into the same cesspool that it was after the Russians up and left.
Grayson is a true patriot and living hero. Its funny how most self proclaimed politically right respond to any issue they disagree with by simple name calling and insult. ANYTHING to avoid truth or facts, just zeroing in hell bent on democratic failure.
@PoliticallyRight You're such a simpleton. The money and resources if used at home could keep us so much safer than pissed away in Afghanistan. When will you tire of letting Israel control our govt.. We are Americans not pussies, I'll take my chances with these terrorists. Now let's see what my choices are 1) We can destroy our economy fighting an unfinanced and further bankrupt this country 2) We can say Fuck you terrorists you want some come and get it.
I'm a combat arms Vietnam era veteran paratrooper. My family goes back to 1737 in the US and I'm related to Sir Francis Scott Key. I'm not
hiding most of my family served in the military in all the wars. Please don't project your own fear or cowardice on me. I think this country is worth fighting and dying for. I don't think we should continue to bankrupt this country and question our motives. I saw a 60 minutes special on a Delta Op to get Osama and the politicians deliberately sabotaged it....
Sorry but your ideas are dangerous and misguided. I'm a combat veteran myself from a more modern era than Vietnam; I was born an American and I've also lived a good part of my life as an American in the Middle East. You clearly just don't understand the conflict we're in with these terrorists very well. The place to say "F you" to terrorists and goad them to fight is in their backyard, not ours - this is what we've done since Sept. 11th and it's worked spectacularly well.
The war on terror isn't what is bankrupting the country, it's the insane domestic policies that are being instituted. The bailouts alone cost more than Marshall Plan, Louisiana Purchase, moonshot, S&L bailout, Korean War, New Deal, Iraq war, Vietnam war, and NASA's lifetime budget -- *combined*! Add to that healthcare and all the rest and the cost of the war looks like a drop in the bucket.
You sound like a patriot; please if you can, think about what I'm saying, we can't afford to leave.
If you are a US veteran ask yourself why the people who looted the economy and continue to do don't serve in the military. I wish that before this war they would have instituted a draft. No college diversion! As soon as the rich kids came home in body bags war over. I resent the poor and middle class dying in an unfinanced war that is destroying the economy
The people who are benefiting at the trough of military industrial complex have nothing at stake. Their kids are safely attending college!
You seem to forget that we have invaded their country under false pretenses. Are you aware that the Bush administration had advanced warning of 911 from almost everyone of our allies intelligence svcs.? Are you aware that the planning to invade Iraq was done over 9 mos prior to 911? Are you under the impression that men in Afghanistan don't love their women and children?Are you aware that AIPAC the zionist lobby for Israel is in control of the US govt? If not research it. It's easy to find out!
1. You would have made the same call Bush did if you saw the intel he saw after 9/11. 5 separate intelligence agencies confirmed the WMD issue - this argument is just tired.
2. There are attack plans like this created for most contingencies. We probably have plans on an attack of Iran as well as every other mideast nation. We had plans for how to attack the Soviet Union during the cold war as well. What's your point?
3. Your Anti-Semite views are ridiculous, you need to stop with the racism.
So ask yourself why Perle and Wolfawitz would lie to Bush. The CIA told Bush the WMD threat was not credible and not to include that rhetoric in his speech. The Bush administration provided a covert agents employment with the CIA during a time of war in an effort to discredit her husband. At one time in this country that would have been considered treason. You need to get out of your left/right lib/cons mode and think outside the box. Just like the phony Tonkin attack during Nam by LBJ. More BS!
There is nothing I've told you which cannot be easily verified from several sources also calling anti-zionism anti-semtic is like calling Nazism anti-german. I'm sure you are smart enough to make the distinction. My neighbor was a USMC Battalion Commander in Iraq and he can see through all the rhetoric and dis info. You know Bushs grandfather Prescott was a banker to the Nazis' right? I just want to make sure the person who I'm making these points to has a historical perspective and can research
Hey Larry, I guess you really can't argue with results, can you? How many attacks have Muslim extremists committed against us on U.S. soil since we took the fight to them? Absolutely ZERO. They are splitting their efforts between Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas which keeps them from being as effective here in the U.S. because they can't lose to us - as I said before the key to who is respected in the Middle East is who kicks the most ass - and that's us, and that pisses Al Quaida off.
Your references to Zionism in this context are laughable. You're talking like an uneducated muslim extremist terrorist when you blame Zionism for the problem. I suspect this has more to do with the way you've been taught to think either growing up or as a result of some groups you associate yourself with than any legitimate research on the issue.
The fact is that Muslim extremists want us dead because their religion compels them to kill us - because we won't become a Muslim nation.
They know that fact classifies us as infidels, and the Qu'ran says that as infidels we must either pay monetary tribute and bow to to their Muslim leaders or they need to kill us. You see Larry, some Muslims may choose to ignore it, but Muslims who are terrorists are just following exactly what their holy book tells them to do. It has nothing to do with Zionism or "American hubris" or any of that crap.
It's clearly you that needs to do some research and wake up to the reality of this situation.
Oh and one more thing - these Muslim extremists, they also want to kill you and your family and probably all your friends; unless they are Muslim of course, and even then these morons believe it's acceptable to make them martyrs without their permission.
So tell me, when you prattle on about Zionism this and that, do you even realize you are taking their side? Are you a Muslim yourself? I can't understand anyone that would actually understand the issue and still talk like this.
After listening to all the lies on Fox I decided to research Rupert Murdoch to see if I could discover his motivation for the lies. What I found was that Rupert Murdochs' mother was from a well to do Jewish family. Yeah, check it out if you think I'm lying since I'm the one with no understanding. I'm also aware that prominent jews within the Bush administration pushed us to war. Look up Richard Perle, Paul Wolfawitz, Abrams etc.. All with the blessings of AIPAC. Stop being a brainwashed tool.
lol.. 16 rating 5k views.. no comment from any obamananiac and no discussion like those on the young turks' videos sprouting partisan nonsense.. oh hey but when tyt criticizes the obama administration, they also have lower view and comments in general.. hilarious.
anti war conservative is the only solution and the only group with young grassroot volunteer campaigns.. the rest lack passion and all they do is armchair critique.
although i think we should stop "helping people" all over the world,and that we should allow dictators to slaughter their own people at will to reduce "carbon footprints" from hurting our planet, remember that we have an all volunteer army and their
job is to kick ass.since they are there,please support them.now that they are there, women go to school,tribal war has been reduced and an attempt to bring then out of the stoneage is in progress.are they better off or not? not that they'll thx us..
kakevause, I am sorry that the CIA is growing heroin in Afghanistan, and I am sorry oil companies want to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. I am sorry that the Taliban want us the fuck out of their country because our presents only makes everything worse. THE U.S. CAN NOT AFFORD THIS WAR. THIS WAR DOES MAKE US SAFER AS A WHOLE.
Representative Grayson speaks for the overwhelming majority of Americans that agree that the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq are a futile waste of American lives and treasure. America needs to get out of these countries NOW and concentrate on healing and rebuilding America and do what we can to stay out of other countries both physically and politically.
convicted07, Obama will have nothing of what you and I know. Logic dictates we come home from these corporate wars, but Obama is part of the problem. He is a Federal Reserve puppet. The longer the war goes on the more we have to barrow from the Federal Reserve and the rest of the world. The wars divisive at many levels.
I think that a good idea would be to require the CBO to score a cost in dead and wounded soldiers for every military decision, and how many children will loose their parents, and marriages loose one partner.
I wanna see Palin say "We have to let them win" when there are numbers on how many of those "winners" won't make it back alive.
Probably won't, but I think that'd be a great idea, for any country to have really. NATO as well. Calculate the death toll, and see if people are willing to pay it.
The only reason someone would oppose that would be "We don't want to know of the dead soldiers", and that's a really cold remark that'll piss off all army families, so noone will say that.
hooray for Sen. Grayson, reThink Afghanistan and BNF for speaking out against the military-industrial whores who have already co-opted Obama in less than a year as President...FUCK WAR and ALL the lying, chickenshit chickenhawk bastards who start them...we need trials for the war criminals today!!!
Look in a mirror, juniemoon. You'll see what an idiot really is. Now, go on back to watching the bigger idiots on FOX, (you know...the ones who consider you an idiot because you're so gullible?)
rep grayson is amazing. look up the clip where he makes bernacke shut up and look dumfounded
indibabs122275 1 year ago
i found that really lifey
ecblaxer 1 year ago
He does speek for Germans and some other countries in Europe too.
Meanwihle the poeple has none to say anymore.
Gouverments act unlawfull, sheet the poeple and tax them heavy.
Steel there money and give it to privat Banks.
When Banks rule the politics,wich make up nice laws for the big company's , that's what's called fascism !!!
And thats excatly what the European Parliament is !
Poeple worldwide has to have an eye on these bustards, or everyone will be soon slave of this bunch of maniacs !
Sundance8 1 year ago
This is good. However, with all we have been through with the Dems and Obama recently, I would resign from the Democratic Party and become an independent. He has enough support nationally now to accomplish this. Form an independent party with Paul, Gravel, Nader, and Kuchinich. Its time to quit fooling around with the Duopoly and get serious about government.
medliberty 1 year ago
Rep. Grayson is a walking billboard for Trojan's.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
I agree with Rep. Grayson.
SidJustice1 2 years ago
Ron Paul is right - our invading Iraq only created more potential terrorists & Afgan is also wasteful.
DillonX 2 years ago
Grayson is a dumbass, STFU you dumb cunt. Anybody that opposed the war can not only get out of our government but get out of this country. Or did you not forget that this country was founded through the blood of patriots?!
N0bamacare 2 years ago
ahh the Nederlands... your people have created so much inventions that have made the world better.. like Chocolate.. you'd still be shitting in a hole in the ground by candlelight and speaking German if it were not for us. I suggesst you shut the fuck up now before we breing up the rest of the things about how your country was supposed to throw up the white flag if attacke by East Germans. I was in those briefings.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
Besides being ignorant you're also an idiot. You state that your country has a longer and deeper history then mine and that we are famous for...chocolate? I'm not a nationalist like you so I don't really care what you think about my country. I just wanted to point out that your statements are really what makes people think all Americans are stupid.I'd even say that you are hurting and annoying your fellow countrymen more then you do me. So carry on being a showcase of US stupidity while I lmao.
diramonsky 2 years ago 2
Plus I wanted to mention,
tampabayproductions, that only a complete moron would misspell the name of his enemy namely "Al Queida". How are you gonna defeat them if you can't even spell their name, you're totally incapable mate.
diramonsky 2 years ago
Sad to say, as an American, I find that there is a horrifying amount of us who are indeed DANGEROUSLY STUPID. Its easy to tell who they are, they are the ones ranting calling others foul names instead of looking out for their OWN best interests, willing to send their children to die fighting wars pumped up with false idealism. Scream, rant, and rave AGAINST a fair and honest health care system while their neighbors lose their homes to med bills. They forgot we are the UNITED States of America.
SteevSongs 2 years ago
Steev,
I wonder what you would think about your own comments if you were a woman or child in Afghanistan. You are a sheep who obviously has never risked anything for anyone but himself. To me as a veteran, you represent the worst this country has to offer. A typical "selfish American". If you think it's "dangerously stupid" to defend other peoples' safety and liberty around the world then you have missed the point of this nation's existence and the reason America is loved worldwide entirely.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
PoliticallyRight, you are missing the point entirely and havent the slightest clue who I am. I think you need to end your addiction to FOX news(?) and listen and watch some actual journalism and news. Maybe even take in some Rethink Afghanistan and LISTEN TO THEM! For every inocent woman and child killed by US bombs in Afganistan and Iraq, its evident, COUNTLESS TERRORISTS are created seeking revenge. Same as you would do if the tides were turned on the US if they killed YOUR loved ones.
SteevSongs 2 years ago
Well said. An estimated 1,000,000 Iraqis were killed by Americans. How many terrorists were created? How many terrorists will be created by the killing in Afghanistan? PR is very naive when it comes to cost versus reward in this war. The amount of money used for this little adventure could have funded Manhattan type programs in this country that could have made us totally independent from the oil we now seek to control. He fails to realize that Bush/Cheyney oil profiteers is the real problem!!!1
larry1369 2 years ago
You guys are just WRONG. Even this new idealistic liberal President knows you're wrong and he's not struggling not to piss you off as he does the right thing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Larry you're a wacko going on about Jew this Jew that. Steev, you're just weak willed, unwilling to accept what must be done, and looking for an excuse to make yourself feel better about it. Fortunately for you both we have warriors in the world that are willing to step up and fight real evil in this world. Wake up.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
Your a tool. I guess you don't know we financed Hitler. Prescott Bush was a Nazi banker who had is bank taken for trading with the enemy. His $125 investment became 1.5 million as they helped the Nazis smuggle their pillaged profits out of Europe. Your comments mean nothing when they are all based on ignorance with no connection to reality. Go to a library you tool if you know how to read. It's all there in these things called books. Until then STFU keep depending on Fox to blame your ignorance!
larry1369 2 years ago
You shouldn't get so mad about the ignorance of the people in this country, it will get you nowhere. It's true what you say it's just how you're going about it that won't get you anywhere. Do you realize that if you were to ask the magic question about George Bush's grandfather Prescott probably One in a 1000 would have the answer you pursue. You have a good mind and the people of this country are basically good in heart but not to smart. We need more folks like you spreading the word. Continue.
BablyonsKing 2 years ago
careful.. there is a new report out today that the White House is monitoring FACEBOOK, Twitter and IP addresses of those who oppose this government. Hmmm... they really hated it when Bush did this? Where are they now? Is it OK now?
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
The thing is Grayson... Take the handcuffs off of our boys over there, stop prosecuting them when they come home for doing their jog that YOU asked that your country asked them to do OR Bring them home. Kill Al Queida and find Bin Laden and get the hell out. I agree with you in that respect but take off the gloves.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
All in favor of a military coup
say Aye!
TheTenToMention 2 years ago
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diramonsky 2 years ago
It's all about PROFIT, and POWER.
Always has been, everything else is FLUFF and BULLSHIT.
FEARisPROFIT 2 years ago 2
These clowns are trying to take both sides of an issue, so it looks like they don't have an agenda.
Bankers still RUN America, and the Presidents don't mean a damn thing.
FEARisPROFIT 2 years ago
9/11 was an inside job.
metallus2 2 years ago 3
I have a major fantasy of getting with two other girls at the same time lol
cameroncarina37 2 years ago
@cameroncarina37 Nice distraction from something very important to humanity. You are very evil. Congratulations.
TrutherD1 2 years ago
yea let's rethink afghanistan. let's re-think those people jumping off the world trade center as their clothes caught on fire. that's what i'm thinking about and won't think of anything else until every al-qaeda and the taliban who sheltered them is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD if it takes a thousand years.
Hawkeye816 2 years ago
I pretty sure your materialism driven country will have collapsed way before that. And getting 911 in is just lame and weak. Get over it already ya little bitch.
diramonsky 2 years ago
hmmm.. can you name a better system? France has had 3 Constitutions since we have had only one. Our Written Constitution is the Oldest in the World. Tell me a better system.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
Pssst, the USA is only a couple of hundred years old, and in case you haven't noticed, our system is failing us.. Hee, hee, Ive got it! tampabayproductions is a really bad night club comedian. Thats the only explanation I can think of for being dead wrong on EVERYTHING! :O)
SteevSongs 2 years ago
Why are we in Afghanistan ? How many Afghanis or Iraqis were among the terrorists that attacked us? ZERO!!! 16 of them were Saudis. So why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia. OIL!!! The attack was planned in Sudan, Germany, and the US. I don't see us attacking Sudan or Germany.
TheKilgoretrout 2 years ago
@Hawkeye816 uh, dude, all the 'hijackers' from 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia...Osama is on CIA payroll and the bin Ladens are business partners of the Bush/ Cheney crime family...you might want to do a little more research before making asinine comments like that...if you don't understand what REALLY happened by now, it's not too late to learn!
oneirishpoet 2 years ago
Alan speaks the truth about the war. The USA has become the piggy bank for defending the world. A piggy bank is finite and has to be just about empty. We're spending our way out of existence. WTFWWT????????????
billeybop 2 years ago
King Obama the affirmative action President should be impeached. Obamabush has just started the SURGE again. WAMM, Code Pink, etc. hate Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obambi, impeach him now.
recompa2 2 years ago 2
@recompa2 I think that Obama once in the president's chair, faced the cold truth, somebody else is the real "ruler"!
junglemanlawyer1 2 years ago
Hoax and Chains.
ROFLMAO!
VerbotenDingleberry 2 years ago
Killing equals peace and love? Obama's writers need a new strategy. I guess since Obamas puppet master kissinger got the Nobel while killing the people of cambodia they figure death is a good strategy or awards
moontooth 2 years ago 2
Grayson needs to stay in politics for a long time. Him and Franken rule. Florida, do the right thing.
pascal77d 2 years ago
This is good. We have one POS attacking another POS. All this shit hitting fan can only be good for America. We need some good news for a change. This is the best.
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
@NotEasilyRegimented nobody wants to hear you partisan shit you loyalist bastard.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
Obama has been shown to be weak. Has not lived up to his promise to the gay community. Failed on universal health care. Warmongerins in Afghanistan. WTF. I though he was going to transform America. He said he was. Impeach this jying cheat.
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
And do what? Your democracy obviously isn't capable of delivering a decent and honest president. Well I haven't ever seen one in my time anyway.
diramonsky 2 years ago
We have had leadership that was better than Obama. Most all our presidents were better than Obama. He is a mistake. Decent and honest presidents aren't necessarily what we need. We had one, Eisenhower. He was sort of weak himself. There are decent and honest Americans although the number is decreasing. It is not the president who drives the culture, it is the people. That is true even in the Netherlands.
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
@NotEasilyRegimented How was Eisenhower weak ? He lead the greatest invasion in military history and helped defeat the Nazis.And when he was president he helped create millions of jobs and improved the infrastructure of the U.S. more then any president.The 1950's are considered by many to be one of the greatest era's of American history.
surferray69 2 years ago
I was just reading about the Netherlands. History is very spotty there. Very young country in the its' current manifestation. Ex colonial country. War torn and corrupt. Over the years there have been many tyrants running the Netherlands. France. Germany. England. No real history there to compare with America.
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
we are a republic, not a Democracy. get yor facts straight. Where are you from? What is your better system?
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
Yes it is. You don't even understand how your own political system works, how sad though symbolic. Google "representative democracy" and learn. In the United States, Founding Fathers like James Madison defined republic in terms of representative democracy as opposed to only having direct democracy, and this usage is still employed by many viewing themselves as "republicans".
diramonsky 2 years ago
the defense department admits there are only approximately 100 al-qaeda in afghanistan.
the war is for opium, pipelines, and defense contracts.
and 9/11 was an inside job.
halonumber14 2 years ago 5
Yea, but if 19 of them can thwart a multi-billion dollar air defense system using $10 worth of box-cutters, just think how hard it will be to kill one hundred of them armed with thirty year old A-K 47s!
dlucas90 2 years ago
Damnit I hate to agree with Grayson - that schizo
lenny380 2 years ago
he is a putz but he is working in a process that is criticizing Obama. I will support any old piece of shit who is opposed to Obama
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
@NotEasilyRegimented thats a bad policy. People were fan of obama because he was not a fan of bush. Lets just keep goin round in circles instead of fixing the problem
qualityrkc 2 years ago
@lenny380 schizo?how?
qualityrkc 2 years ago
qualityrkc
Nobody? I accept your authority on the term nobody. You are the head MF what is in Charge of NOBODY.
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
I like how he is on par with Ron Paul on some issues. But then he turns around and is for socialized medicine. That to me is schizo - you want to save money then burn it somewhere else -weird.
lenny380 2 years ago
nah the cbo estimated it would cut the deficit so it wouldnt be "burning it somewhere else".Grayson just speaks for his constituency so that is why you might call him schizo. Paul and Grayson represent different districts.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
I signed that petition.
jayrod59 2 years ago
I know Barack doesn't wanna pull troops from Iraq & Afgan caz if he does & there's an uptick in violence he'll be blamed. So he makes an "effort" & if little progress he'll likely pull in 2nd term, if he has 1
But Iraq & Afgan will be hell-holes in 10 yrs whether we stay or go. The 1 thing that might bring a measure of peace to either country is if they get a strong dictator like Saddam who'll quickly put-down any uprisings
Ron Paul & Grayson are right.We only create more terrorists by staying
DillonX 2 years ago 2
Barack wont' pull out, because Israel would not be happy. Barack is a slave to AIPAC
golcynski 2 years ago
@golcynski You say Barack is a slave to Israel and i would argue the whole political system in this country is a slave with very few exceptions. AIPAC exerts so much political control over the US that our politicians actions in favor of Israels issues and against are treasonous. The people we elect refuse to represent us. There are many reasons for this but the biggest is lobbying money. If we want any influence as voters we need to eliminate the current lobbying immediately. AIPAC RacistZionist
larry1369 2 years ago
We must get rid of Obama
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
What a treasonous statement! There would have been no chance for Obama had we not allowed the Bush Admin to seize the White House like a violent corporate takeover. Ive never been a big Obama fan, he had stated his Afghan intentions in his campaign, but I hate the fact the US is involved in Afghanistan and Iraq. I also think people should stop blaming Obama for Bush and Cheneys war crimes and do a SERIOUS and HONEST investigation of the 911 attacks that adhere to the laws of physics.
SteevSongs 2 years ago
The right wing war pigs and American Military Industrial Complex has little tolerance for strong leaders like Saddam who seemed to keep Iraq a bit too peaceful and prosperous for a bit too long.. Bush fixed that, now the military can go to Afghanistan to look for mutant bin Ladin clones(?) and let Exxon/Mobil go about their business in Iraq. Yes, Grayson and Paul are right. Breed enough terrorists and war can go on indefinitely until nobody seems to remember what we are fighting for.
SteevSongs 2 years ago 3
chahaha you are sick... google the mass graves from Iraq they found today. Useful Idiot. Why are you still balming Bush? Now it's Obama and GE (The largest Corporation in the World) and SEIU and ACORN. Stop Blame shifting, it's your Messiah's wars (just sent ,30000 more troop) committed another TRILLION to Climate Change hoax when we are Broke. Bush was bad on spending and you Bitched about it but he's Bush on Steroids and Hates America too. Screw you and Screw Progressive messiah Sheep.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
@SteevSongs excellent comment...nailed it!
oneirishpoet 2 years ago
That's just complete bullcrap Dillon. The only way we will "create more terrorists" is if we leave. The only thing these people understand is strength. We need to show that strength and then continue to back it with providing hope to the youth of the Middle East. Hope that they can have a life free of the tyranny Arabs have lived under for generations.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
It's interesting that the Soviet Empire collapsed after a Costly, 10 Year War, with Afghanistan.
FEARisPROFIT 2 years ago 2
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These people are absolute scum, including Rep. Grayson. What kind of frigging MORON doesn't see that our activity in Afghanistan makes us safer at home?
This isn't about a win or a loss. It's about defending basic human dignity and rights - and to me that's a very American sentiment and worth fighting for. These selfish people in this video are just disgusting. The Afghan people need our help to keep Afghanistan from turning into the same cesspool that it was after the Russians up and left.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
USA is doing exactly what the anti-americans want you to do. Spending your money and morale by being bogged down in afganistan.
diurdi 2 years ago 2
Grayson is a true patriot and living hero. Its funny how most self proclaimed politically right respond to any issue they disagree with by simple name calling and insult. ANYTHING to avoid truth or facts, just zeroing in hell bent on democratic failure.
SteevSongs 2 years ago
I certainly support him in his attack on Obama
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
@PoliticallyRight You're such a simpleton. The money and resources if used at home could keep us so much safer than pissed away in Afghanistan. When will you tire of letting Israel control our govt.. We are Americans not pussies, I'll take my chances with these terrorists. Now let's see what my choices are 1) We can destroy our economy fighting an unfinanced and further bankrupt this country 2) We can say Fuck you terrorists you want some come and get it.
I don't need the govts. protection!!!!!
larry1369 2 years ago
You can hide out in tall buildings in NY
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
I'm a combat arms Vietnam era veteran paratrooper. My family goes back to 1737 in the US and I'm related to Sir Francis Scott Key. I'm not
hiding most of my family served in the military in all the wars. Please don't project your own fear or cowardice on me. I think this country is worth fighting and dying for. I don't think we should continue to bankrupt this country and question our motives. I saw a 60 minutes special on a Delta Op to get Osama and the politicians deliberately sabotaged it....
larry1369 2 years ago 2
Larry1369,
Sorry but your ideas are dangerous and misguided. I'm a combat veteran myself from a more modern era than Vietnam; I was born an American and I've also lived a good part of my life as an American in the Middle East. You clearly just don't understand the conflict we're in with these terrorists very well. The place to say "F you" to terrorists and goad them to fight is in their backyard, not ours - this is what we've done since Sept. 11th and it's worked spectacularly well.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
The war on terror isn't what is bankrupting the country, it's the insane domestic policies that are being instituted. The bailouts alone cost more than Marshall Plan, Louisiana Purchase, moonshot, S&L bailout, Korean War, New Deal, Iraq war, Vietnam war, and NASA's lifetime budget -- *combined*! Add to that healthcare and all the rest and the cost of the war looks like a drop in the bucket.
You sound like a patriot; please if you can, think about what I'm saying, we can't afford to leave.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
If you are a US veteran ask yourself why the people who looted the economy and continue to do don't serve in the military. I wish that before this war they would have instituted a draft. No college diversion! As soon as the rich kids came home in body bags war over. I resent the poor and middle class dying in an unfinanced war that is destroying the economy
The people who are benefiting at the trough of military industrial complex have nothing at stake. Their kids are safely attending college!
larry1369 2 years ago
You seem to forget that we have invaded their country under false pretenses. Are you aware that the Bush administration had advanced warning of 911 from almost everyone of our allies intelligence svcs.? Are you aware that the planning to invade Iraq was done over 9 mos prior to 911? Are you under the impression that men in Afghanistan don't love their women and children?Are you aware that AIPAC the zionist lobby for Israel is in control of the US govt? If not research it. It's easy to find out!
larry1369 2 years ago
1. You would have made the same call Bush did if you saw the intel he saw after 9/11. 5 separate intelligence agencies confirmed the WMD issue - this argument is just tired.
2. There are attack plans like this created for most contingencies. We probably have plans on an attack of Iran as well as every other mideast nation. We had plans for how to attack the Soviet Union during the cold war as well. What's your point?
3. Your Anti-Semite views are ridiculous, you need to stop with the racism.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
So ask yourself why Perle and Wolfawitz would lie to Bush. The CIA told Bush the WMD threat was not credible and not to include that rhetoric in his speech. The Bush administration provided a covert agents employment with the CIA during a time of war in an effort to discredit her husband. At one time in this country that would have been considered treason. You need to get out of your left/right lib/cons mode and think outside the box. Just like the phony Tonkin attack during Nam by LBJ. More BS!
larry1369 2 years ago
There is nothing I've told you which cannot be easily verified from several sources also calling anti-zionism anti-semtic is like calling Nazism anti-german. I'm sure you are smart enough to make the distinction. My neighbor was a USMC Battalion Commander in Iraq and he can see through all the rhetoric and dis info. You know Bushs grandfather Prescott was a banker to the Nazis' right? I just want to make sure the person who I'm making these points to has a historical perspective and can research
larry1369 2 years ago
Hey Larry, I guess you really can't argue with results, can you? How many attacks have Muslim extremists committed against us on U.S. soil since we took the fight to them? Absolutely ZERO. They are splitting their efforts between Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas which keeps them from being as effective here in the U.S. because they can't lose to us - as I said before the key to who is respected in the Middle East is who kicks the most ass - and that's us, and that pisses Al Quaida off.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
Your references to Zionism in this context are laughable. You're talking like an uneducated muslim extremist terrorist when you blame Zionism for the problem. I suspect this has more to do with the way you've been taught to think either growing up or as a result of some groups you associate yourself with than any legitimate research on the issue.
The fact is that Muslim extremists want us dead because their religion compels them to kill us - because we won't become a Muslim nation.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
They know that fact classifies us as infidels, and the Qu'ran says that as infidels we must either pay monetary tribute and bow to to their Muslim leaders or they need to kill us. You see Larry, some Muslims may choose to ignore it, but Muslims who are terrorists are just following exactly what their holy book tells them to do. It has nothing to do with Zionism or "American hubris" or any of that crap.
It's clearly you that needs to do some research and wake up to the reality of this situation.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
Oh and one more thing - these Muslim extremists, they also want to kill you and your family and probably all your friends; unless they are Muslim of course, and even then these morons believe it's acceptable to make them martyrs without their permission.
So tell me, when you prattle on about Zionism this and that, do you even realize you are taking their side? Are you a Muslim yourself? I can't understand anyone that would actually understand the issue and still talk like this.
PoliticallyRight 2 years ago
After listening to all the lies on Fox I decided to research Rupert Murdoch to see if I could discover his motivation for the lies. What I found was that Rupert Murdochs' mother was from a well to do Jewish family. Yeah, check it out if you think I'm lying since I'm the one with no understanding. I'm also aware that prominent jews within the Bush administration pushed us to war. Look up Richard Perle, Paul Wolfawitz, Abrams etc.. All with the blessings of AIPAC. Stop being a brainwashed tool.
larry1369 2 years ago 2
lol.. 16 rating 5k views.. no comment from any obamananiac and no discussion like those on the young turks' videos sprouting partisan nonsense.. oh hey but when tyt criticizes the obama administration, they also have lower view and comments in general.. hilarious.
spyletu 2 years ago
anti war conservative is the only solution and the only group with young grassroot volunteer campaigns.. the rest lack passion and all they do is armchair critique.
spyletu 2 years ago
although i think we should stop "helping people" all over the world,and that we should allow dictators to slaughter their own people at will to reduce "carbon footprints" from hurting our planet, remember that we have an all volunteer army and their
job is to kick ass.since they are there,please support them.now that they are there, women go to school,tribal war has been reduced and an attempt to bring then out of the stoneage is in progress.are they better off or not? not that they'll thx us..
kakevause 2 years ago
kakevause, I am sorry that the CIA is growing heroin in Afghanistan, and I am sorry oil companies want to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. I am sorry that the Taliban want us the fuck out of their country because our presents only makes everything worse. THE U.S. CAN NOT AFFORD THIS WAR. THIS WAR DOES MAKE US SAFER AS A WHOLE.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago 2
sad but true,it's a very screwed up deal...
kakevause 2 years ago
This government ignores it's people.
job1866 2 years ago 4
Representative Grayson speaks for the overwhelming majority of Americans that agree that the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq are a futile waste of American lives and treasure. America needs to get out of these countries NOW and concentrate on healing and rebuilding America and do what we can to stay out of other countries both physically and politically.
convicted07 2 years ago 5
convicted07, Obama will have nothing of what you and I know. Logic dictates we come home from these corporate wars, but Obama is part of the problem. He is a Federal Reserve puppet. The longer the war goes on the more we have to barrow from the Federal Reserve and the rest of the world. The wars divisive at many levels.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
I think that a good idea would be to require the CBO to score a cost in dead and wounded soldiers for every military decision, and how many children will loose their parents, and marriages loose one partner.
I wanna see Palin say "We have to let them win" when there are numbers on how many of those "winners" won't make it back alive.
Myschly 2 years ago
Let's face it. The Right Wing wants a "victory". It gives them a woody.
That's the ONLY reason they were disappointed in Bush,....he was a tease....
SpitfireOFatj 2 years ago
I agree Myschly, but it probably will never happen even if they send her own son back in a body bag, she's just that fucking stupid!
oneirishpoet 2 years ago
Probably won't, but I think that'd be a great idea, for any country to have really. NATO as well. Calculate the death toll, and see if people are willing to pay it.
The only reason someone would oppose that would be "We don't want to know of the dead soldiers", and that's a really cold remark that'll piss off all army families, so noone will say that.
Myschly 2 years ago
.Greenwald and Grayson aren't afraid to speak (and show) the truth.These are true patriots.
600katman 2 years ago
We need Rep. Grayson now more than ever to speak up on this issue. Thank you!
Revo1 2 years ago 6
hooray for Sen. Grayson, reThink Afghanistan and BNF for speaking out against the military-industrial whores who have already co-opted Obama in less than a year as President...FUCK WAR and ALL the lying, chickenshit chickenhawk bastards who start them...we need trials for the war criminals today!!!
oneirishpoet 2 years ago 8
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Grayson is an idiot.
juniemoon 2 years ago
Look in a mirror, juniemoon. You'll see what an idiot really is. Now, go on back to watching the bigger idiots on FOX, (you know...the ones who consider you an idiot because you're so gullible?)
PaineLover 2 years ago
Grayson is a true patriot.
jwazzz 2 years ago 2
awesome!! please keep making more videos guys! speak out!
pence123 2 years ago 3
YES! Brave New Foundation FTW. Alan Grayson too, that man is a hero. I LOVE the work you are doing!
WellIAMScottish 2 years ago 3
Keep up the great work!
therealcharismatron 2 years ago 2
Alan Grayson for Florida State Senate
ubuibiok 2 years ago